My Little Pony LXII: Friendship Gives you Wiings!

[Trixie]

http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-imz_ErlN8Qk/USgXEh_auLI/AAAAAAAACd0/VX0beIj5o4o/Prin.png

Trixie's Great and Powerful Guide v1.99999
Princess Edition

Brief Introduction

My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic is a reboot of the MLP franchise by Powerpuff Girls artist Lauren Faust, currently viewed by (almost) the entire Internet, not only the intended audience. Here is a place where we discuss the joy of friendship.

> My Little Pony? Seriously?

It's a clever show. It has excellent writing, character dynamics, humor, animation, and generally treats kids seriously rather than condescending to them. It has every right to be a 20 minute corporate committee designed infomercial, but it's not.

> Isn't this a show for little girls?

Pixar technically makes shows for little boys, and produce some of the best animation in the world.

> Okay, fine. I'll give it a try. Where do I start?

No Brony could ask for more. I recommend watching the episodes in order. They're all up on Youtube. Unusually, Hasbro seems fine with having the entire series up in public because they've made no move to bring down any of the episodes. Search for "Friendship is Magic Episode 1" and you should find the series pretty easily... Or search for "Sharing is Magic" Google Doc. That is all.

> Okay, I'm going to watch it but this had better live up to the hype!

Whoa, calm down there. The show is light hearted, optimistic fun but it's not for everyone. It's good fun, the community is good fun, and everyone can do with a reminder that friendship is magic but if it doesn't gel for you we'll love and tolerate you anyway. Plus, you might hit the wrong episode. Ask first?

> Iron Hoof/Fan Theories/Shipping/Binding

All in good fun! If it's not your cup of tea, skim it, but this show has triggered a great creative outpouring from the Internet. Pony themed fan-art is abundant and often excellent. See below for some examples.

> Derpy Hooves/Doctor Whoof

Two minor background characters who were adopted as emblems of 4chan. Derpy Hooves is so named due to an animation error in the first episode that had her eyes facing in different directions; 4chan has assigned her the role of Ponyville's mailpony, and her only line so far has been "Muffins". The show's animators are aware of Derpy's popularity and she's shown up a few times recently with her eyes obviously derped. Currently made canon in Feeling Pinkie Keen and in Faust's picture showcased below, Derpy was deemed important enough to appear in storyboards for Season II.

Dr. Whoof is a pony with an hourglass cutie mark; he and his kin save time and space very quietly off camera.


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General Resources

Fan Fiction and News: Equestria Daily (http://www.equestriadaily.com/)
Discussion Image Forum: Ponychan (http://www.ponychan.net/chan/)
Pony Emotes: FiM Emotes (http://kefkafloyd.imgur.com/J8S59)
More Emotes: MC's Emotes (http://gitpmcerberus.imgur.com/ponymote)
Also Emotes: GD's Emotes (http://gadora.imgur.com/seekret_pony_projekt_1/1)
Pony Images: Ponibooru (http://ponibooru.413chan.net/post/list)
More Images: 20% Cooler (http://twentypercentcooler.net/)
Know Your Meme: Ponies! (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic)
Allspark MLP Discussion Thread (http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=76678&st=0&start=0)

Art Resources


OC Pony Creation Guide:

>How to make OC Pony (http://ponibooru.413chan.net/_images/048648773b808749ecbcd93b7825d545/22629%20-%20original_character_tutorial%20tutorial.png)<
>How to clothe a Pony (http://img.ponibooru.org/_images/10448a8bf5139a93e47ee0ab2185d577/23650%20-%20Touhou%20artist%3Awhy485%20drawing_guide%20fash ion%20guide%20pony%20tutorial.png)<

Deviant Art Links:

Lauren Faust (http://fyre-flye.deviantart.com/)

14 Bis (http://14-bis.deviantart.com/)
ButterSS (http://buttersc0tchsundae.deviantart.com/)
Csimadmax (http://csimadmax.deviantart.com/)
DonKoRR (http://don-komandorr.deviantart.com/)
Irving Zero (http://irving-zero.deviantart.com/)
Johnjoseco (http://johnjoseco.deviantart.com/)
Kloudmutt (http://kloudmutt.deviantart.com/)
Palestorm (http://palestorm.deviantart.com/)
Shinepaw (http://shinepawpony.deviantart.com/)

>Awesome Great and Powerful Trixie (http://kp-shadowsquirrel.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d49ccgo)<

Tutorials:

How to Draw Luna (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1YoOgNwPp4)
MLP Art Guides (http://s1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc361/DJPon-3/)
MLP Colour Guides (http://kefkafloyd.deviantart.com/)

Kloud TV (http://www.livestream.com/kloudmutt)

Concepts:

On the Design of the Mane Cast (http://sucs.org/~drspangle/Ponibooru-All-Safe/122%20-%20Posey%20g1_sparkler%20artist_Lauren_Faust%20twi light_sparkle%20g3_to_g4%20rarity%20lauren_faust%2 0rainbow_dash%20fluttershy%20pinkie_pie%20Firefly% 20g1_to_g4%20applejack%20Surprise.jpg)

Concept art by L. Faust:

AJ/AJ (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtv1PUCI/AAAAAAAABPg/aTDHM_vJ3Ek/Applejack-08.jpg)
Pinkie/Surprise (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtjpEWrI/AAAAAAAABPc/vlcKpVmK1FY/Pinkie_08.jpg)
Rarity/Sparkler (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZuba65VI/AAAAAAAABPo/o7oJ1OI4bcE/Rarity_08.jpg)
Twilight/Twinkle (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZuS8XZtI/AAAAAAAABPs/9CPSE6Je1Y0/Twilight_08.jpg)
Derpy/Ditzy (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZtusFdII/AAAAAAAABPk/4VbhxajIt1o/Derpy_11.jpg)

Group Shot (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zPGxLKSxqsI/Tet-724kmrI/AAAAAAAABoc/74J43JjtvVc/mlplegroupruff.jpg)

5 Best Pictures [IMHO]:

TG&P Trixie 1 (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlPoSj31bI/AAAAAAAABKc/yhAESX1bWDU/129879022202-fim_thebestmagic2.png) 2a (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYevesc6Z3I/AAAAAAAABJE/wqYR1YU8-xM/129878791125-Magic_for_Friendship.png) 2b (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlPoV0tFSI/AAAAAAAABKg/UIrpK2_XUDk/345%20-%20filly%20flower%20Magic%20noel%20Trixie.jpg) 3 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYevn1UZNyI/AAAAAAAABJI/JQaTPZ7u9kk/1295392718493.png)
Twilight Sparkle 1 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlQKpEFW1I/AAAAAAAABKo/PJmzRBt_g0o/twilight-%28n1298746506900%29.jpg) 2 (http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYgEWabUv0I/AAAAAAAABJg/S1emWO9FjbE/1297919269027.png) 3 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TYlQAwKvFvI/AAAAAAAABKk/08Q9f1BaGa0/1298478186234.png)
Rainbow Dash 1 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tuXX0V5I/AAAAAAAABOE/vPLwNGpCsU8/rainbows_are_awesome_by_adamrbi-d3awtkv.jpg) 2 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tugAF4JI/AAAAAAAABOI/RYGrQCZySJo/1298478713223.jpg) 3 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-tutzFrYI/AAAAAAAABOM/QP22FdlygtA/1299129766866.png) 3.6 (http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TY-vxE-8GgI/AAAAAAAABOY/ktOwjPQ3eiI/130057856759.png)
Fluttershy 1 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiSMaDSI/AAAAAAAABPQ/FNLXj6WE0ss/yofluttershybyarborishd.png) 2 (http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiUXQlvI/AAAAAAAABPU/SCs7qzer-6E/129860262040.png) 3 (http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_THRVNyZ8xf0/TZPZiWhyIWI/AAAAAAAABPY/r6ClIhygmw0/1297113141466.png)

Pony Games

The most recent one. (http://www.yoyogames.com/games/168448-mlp-fim-the-way-home#)
Pacderpy (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/pacderpy.html)
Two very similar dash based (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/dashattack.html) cloud gathering sidescrollers (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/rainbowdashmini.html)
Pony generator I (http://www.derpyhooves.com/games/custompony.html)
Pony generator II (http://derpyhooves.com/games.php?id=3)
Pony generator III (http://generalzoi.deviantart.com/art/MLP-FiM-Pony-Creator-Beta-210228500)

New: Pinkie licks cupcakes. (http://yeaka.deviantart.com/art/MLP-FiM-Flash-Game-202202384?q=boost%3Apopular%20max_age%3A8h%20frien dship%20is%20magic&qo=22) And a playthrough for it, too. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUy1UtuNet0)
Collect Cupcakes, Lick Ponies! 2.0 (http://yeaka.deviantart.com/art/MLP-FiM-Flash-Game-TWO-202342576)

Nice Fanwork


5AMVs:5Always (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhgzpnTYCXQ)Communism is Magic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJHZ4E9tRHM)Derpy Cardcaptor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWG0KLSJi8g)[BR]Freeze Ray (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMXhEXQSXSw)[BR]I can go the distance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYonN9in668)[BR]Last Unicorn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwT7V_LsRQo)[BR]Lunasong (Not Your Night) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krcJa44GWq8)[BR]Muffins & Bubbles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR_y8uRYI8Y)[BR]Pinkie's Brew (EE) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=682pneYoP0c)[BR]PonyCraft 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJbAT1wzS8U)[BR]Still Alive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za9f1c93FHY)[BR]The Stars Will Aid In Her Escape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV_0n5gp1fE)[BR]The G&P Heretic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4szgPK9Rufw)1Ponies (That are British) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOi3StWmG7A)1[B]Equestria Girls EE! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPqjKk_xCo)[BR]Hub Summer Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKjBViIt-y8)[BR]Hop-Skip-Jump [original] (http://soundcloud.com/dannyimusic/mlp1-hop-skip-jump-song)[BR]Smile, Smile, Smile! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFf_rGavnFk)1Old Pony Songs 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHLqc8BSQMg) & 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCpBYLHIEuI)[BR]Ponies! (http://ponyvspony.com/)[BR]5[B]Comics:5The Damn Best Comic (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/359/5/9/pinkiedeadpool_by_csimadmax-d35ms08.jpg). Ever.And The Prequel (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/107/1/f/pinkiedeadpool_origins_by_csimadmax-d3e936w.png).[BR]And part two (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/147/8/b/battle_for_equestria_02_by_csimadmax-d3hdr5c.png).[BR]And three (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/154/2/1/battle_for_equestria_03_by_csimadmax-d3hz63e.png).[BR]And four (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/160/a/f/battle_for_equestria_04_by_csimadmax-d3iighp.png).[BR]And five (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/168/4/0/battle_for_equestria_05_by_csimadmax-d3j5nlu.png).[BR]Six (http://www.deviantart.com/download/256435109/battle_for_equestria_06_by_csimadmax-d48oalh.png) / Seven (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/252/7/6/battle_for_equestria_07_by_csimadmax-d49cgt7.png) / Eight (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/252/0/7/battle_for_equestria_08_by_csimadmax-d49dpsp.png).1Metaponies (http://gavalanche.deviantart.com/gallery/29877487).[BR]5[B]ED Fics:5Twilight Sky Over Canterlot (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/story-twilight-sky-over-canterlot.html)Sidelines / Midnight's Tale (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/conversion-bureau-compilation.html)[BR]World Without Rainbows (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/05/story-world-without-rainbows.html)[BR]Luxury Lotus Spa Follies (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/story-luxury-lotus-spa-follies.html)[BR]How Lyra Met Bon-Bon (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/02/story-how-lyra-met-bon-bon.html)[BR]Letters from Bubbly (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/01/story-letters-from-bubbly-1-10.html)[BR]Swayback Mountain (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/01/story-swayback-mountain.html)[BR]And Life Goes On (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/01/story-your-greatest-fan.html)[BR]The Three Notes (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-three-notes.html)[BR]TGaP Trixie (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/story-great-and-powerful-trixie.html)[BR]Antipodes (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-antipodes.html)[BR]Progress (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/05/story-progress-luna-versus-microwave.html)[BR]Bubbles (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/03/story-bubbles.html)1Pony Drinking Game (http://buttersc0tchsundae.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3cng5n)[BR]|
5[B](Other) Songs:5At The Gala / FR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQSmihuY5ms)Fluttershy's Lullaby / FR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmDxuMvnehs)[BR]So Many Wonders / FR (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tbt-Z2RwfM)[BR][BR]The French and Powerful Trixie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcpeVg7yMv8)[BR][BR]At The Gala / PL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlVRN-qePmA)[BR]Art of the Dress / PL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clm3GjqncJs)[BR]Winter Wrap Up / PL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfqIEGb2s5w)5[B]GitP Fics:5AmishPirate (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20TheAmishPirate)1Darth BC (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Bobcat)1Deadly (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Adcoon):[BR][BR]Trollestia 1 (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/200/0/b/trickster_goddess_nr_1_by_adcoon-d40tt3d.png) 2 (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/201/a/4/trickster_goddess_nr_2_by_adcoon-d414fzw.png) 3 (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/214/1/3/trickster_goddess_nr_3_by_adcoon-d42h2hx.png) 4 (http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/229/0/d/trickster_goddess_nr_4_by_adcoon-d46vksj.png).1EsperDerek (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20EsperDerek)1Grif (http://www.fimfiction.net/user/Grif)1PhantomFox (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20PhantomFox):[BR][BR]Pride Goes Before a Folly (http://phantomfox7.deviantart.com/art/Pride-Goes-Before-A-Folly-211724143)1PhoeKun (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Phoe)1Raz Fox (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Raz_Fox)1Thanqol (http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Author%3A%20Thanqol)[BR]

Same Old Ponymotes:

Original Batch
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MCerberus
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http://i.imgur.com/zFwEx.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/zFwEx.png

Crazy!Twi
http://i.imgur.com/r63WE.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/r63WE.png
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http://i.imgur.com/vlJi6.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/vlJi6.gif

Kyouhen Series feat. Ninja Pinkie!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/th_NinjaPinkie.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/th_NinjaPinkie.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/NinjaSurprise.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/NinjaSurprise.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/PinkieSwear.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/PinkieSwear.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/trollestia2.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/trollestia2.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/trollestia.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/trollestia.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/Gummicle.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/Gummicle.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/Gildicle.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/alfalficon1.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/alfalficon2.pnghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Balthasar_Gelt/alfalficon2.png

Misc:

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http://i.imgur.com/PBYX5.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/PBYX5.png
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/272/4/b/liarjack_da_avatar_by_metalbeersolid-d4bc9sj.gifhttp://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/272/4/b/liarjack_da_avatar_by_metalbeersolid-d4bc9sj.gif
http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/designs/11497743,width=100,height=100/Brony-Brohoof-v3.pnghttp://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/designs/11497743,width=100,height=100/Brony-Brohoof-v3.png

Seekrit Pony Projekt
1-20
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http://i.imgur.com/b5xPJ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/b5xPJ.png
http://i.imgur.com/CEUYj.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/CEUYj.png

21-40
http://i.imgur.com/D4C8X.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/D4C8X.png
http://i.imgur.com/DrSYq.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/DrSYq.png
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http://i.imgur.com/hleys.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/hleys.png
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41-60
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http://i.imgur.com/JBZDO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/JBZDO.png
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http://i.imgur.com/jhfF7.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/jhfF7.png
http://i.imgur.com/jq6VL.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/jq6VL.png
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http://i.imgur.com/O73if.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/O73if.png
http://i.imgur.com/OPCUO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/OPCUO.png

61-80
http://i.imgur.com/o1ROT.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/o1ROT.png
http://i.imgur.com/o3OrQ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/o3OrQ.png
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http://i.imgur.com/Vthb5.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Vthb5.png

81-100
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101-112
http://i.imgur.com/Tqo43.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Tqo43.png
http://i.imgur.com/MPjbO.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/MPjbO.png
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http://i.imgur.com/VwCqN.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/VwCqN.png
http://i.imgur.com/hwHGZ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/hwHGZ.png

113-124 (Luna Series)

http://i.imgur.com/Mm1dn.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Mm1dn.png
http://i.imgur.com/gN9Ou.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/gN9Ou.png
http://i.imgur.com/rW0xK.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/rW0xK.png
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http://i.imgur.com/hNTy5.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/hNTy5.png
http://i.imgur.com/KyWk8.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/KyWk8.png
http://i.imgur.com/ZeYyu.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/ZeYyu.png
http://i.imgur.com/L3ZSw.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/L3ZSw.png
125-136 (Sweetie Series)
http://i.imgur.com/Jg8wb.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/Jg8wb.png
http://i.imgur.com/9KKKz.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/9KKKz.png
http://i.imgur.com/KjRiq.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/KjRiq.png
http://i.imgur.com/pteUs.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/pteUs.png
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http://i.imgur.com/mUwFV.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/mUwFV.png
http://i.imgur.com/T9hVn.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/T9hVn.png
http://i.imgur.com/EkuTB.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/EkuTB.png
http://i.imgur.com/lVPd8.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/lVPd8.png
http://i.imgur.com/0GUM4.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/0GUM4.png
http://i.imgur.com/cCNvw.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/cCNvw.png
http://i.imgur.com/4mTcY.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/4mTcY.png


Deadly's Ironically Presented Anti-Spoiler Measures

DO YOU HATE SPOILER TAGS?

Well, Deadly's here to help you get rid of them... with a vengeance! Create a new bookmark in your browser and copy the code below as the link/url of said bookmark. Name it something helpful, like "Spoilers B GONE!" or whatever. Then whenever you view a thread here on GitP you just hit the bookmark and BAM! no more spoilers.

You won't even see the boxes, just the bare innards in all their gory glory.

It also makes sure that no image is wider than 600px, to avoid stretching pages, and will attempt to "intelligently" remove repeated images except avatars. Neat, huh? Sadly that last part means stuff like pony emotes may get lost but the forum doesn't make it easy for me to single out images in quotes as I'd have liked... that's an open problem, I guess.

Tested in Firefox, Chrome and Opera. Should work in any modern browser, but you never know with these things.


javascript:(function() { var a = document.getElementsByTagName('div'); for (var i = 0 ; i < a.length ; i++) { if (a[i].className == 'spoiler') { a[i].style.display = 'block'; a[i].className = ''; } else if (a[i].className == 'pre-spoiler') { a[i].style.display = 'none'; }} var ims = new Array(); var tmp; a = document.getElementsByTagName('img'); for (i = 0 ; i < a.length ; i++) { tmp = a[i].parentNode.className ; if (ims.indexOf(a[i].getAttribute('src')) == -1) { ims.push(a[i].getAttribute('src')); a[i].style.maxWidth = '600px'; } else if (tmp != 'avataroverflow' && tmp != 'alt2') { a[i].style.display = 'none' ; }}})();

If you don't mind repeated images, here's a version that leaves them be.

javascript:(function() { var a = document.getElementsByTagName('div'); for (var i = 0 ; i < a.length ; i++) { if (a[i].className == 'spoiler') { a[i].style.display = 'block'; a[i].className = ''; } else if (a[i].className == 'pre-spoiler') { a[i].style.display = 'none'; }} a = document.getElementsByTagName('img'); for (i = 0 ; i < a.length ; i++) { a[i].style.maxWidth = '600px'; }})();

Past Threads:

Thread I - Because Friendship Is Magic
Thread II - Now About 20% Cooler
Thread III - The Great & Powerful Thread
Thread IV - Friendship is Sufficiently Advanced Technology
Thread V - Art of the Thread
Thread VI - MUFFINS!
Thread VII - The Grand Galloping Thread
Thread VIII - Friendship is Music
Thread IX - The Best Thread Ever
Thread X - We Trot 'til We Drop
Thread XI - "Mmph!"
Thread XII - No One Can Groove Like the Girls with the Hooves
Thread XIII - Fast/Fine/Fierce Thread
Thread XIV - Boots on Hooves / Bikinis on Top
Thread XV - The Greater and Powerful-er Thread
Thread XVI - There's a Pony for That!
Thread XVII - Call Upon the Thread Ponies!
Thread XVIII - Perfect Isn't Easy
Thread XIX - I Emptied Your Thread
Thread XX & Thread XX - Appletastic Treats
Thread XXI - A Very Minty Thread
Thread XXII - Surprise!
Thread XXIII - It. Is. ON!
Thread XXIV - Now About 200% Longer Than Firefly
Thread XXV - Au Contraire, Mon Ami!
Thread XXVI - Applebloom to Zecora!
Thread XXVII - Eternal Chaos comes with Chocolate Rain
Thread XXVIII - In the Crazy of 40.000 Posts, There is Only Pony!
Thread XXIX - The Spoilers have been DOUBLED!
Thread XXX - Trixie Treats!
Thread XXXI - The Great and Powerful XXXie!
Thread XXXII - Find a Ponythread, and Soarin' the heck out of it!
Thread XXXIII - Happy Birthday Pony(thread)!
Thread XXXIV - There is Pony of it, no exceptions!
Thread XXXV - The Thread Everypony Should Know
Thread XXXVI - Superponies Everywhere!
Thread XXXVII - We Should Have Learned [Something] By Now!
Thread XXXVIII - Nopony Expects Sponish Pinquisition!
Thread XXXIX - There is no Pegasus Mafia!
Thread XL - The Plot Thickens!
Thread XLI - Riots, Riots Everywhere!
Thread XLII - Life, the Universe and Ponies
Thread XLIII - Season II Ruined My Fanon!
Thread XLIV - This Thread is Going to be Perfect!
Thread XLV - Reign Of Terror
Thread XLVI - *ROBOT TAKEOVER*
Thread XLVII - Ponibooru, We Hardly Knew Ye...
Thread XLVIII - I say Ol' Chap, how about those Equestrians?
Thread XLIX - I Have Done Nothing Productive All Day!
Thread L - The L is for Love!
Thread LI - FE
Thread LII - 525.600 Ponies!
Thread LIII - Stashing Ponythreads Around in Case of Ponymergency!
Thread LIV-E Long and Pony!
Thread LV:55 Ponythread learns Agility!
Thread LVI:S Has Left the Playground!
Thread LVII - You Must Construct Additional Pinkies!
Thread LVIII - Ponythread does not trust Wheels!
Thread LIX - Is Very Proud Of You
Thread LX - 60 Ponythreads? That's an Academy record!
Thread LXI - Discord's Thread For Reformed Spoilers


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[Pendulous]

Just watched Lee Tockar's Fan Built panel. God I wish I didn't have such a crappy voice.

[Grif]

Smooth move, Iron Will. :smallamused:

[Topaz]

Topaz' Traditionally Tardy List of Pony tabletop RPGs:

Pony Tales: Aspirations of Harmony (Homebrew, d20 meets Final Fantasy style) (http://ponytales.forumotion.com/)
Ponies & Parasprites, Season Two (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3c5FOJEDIrxd1hTRzdMVUFPcFk/edit?pli=1) (Homebrew) (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ponies-Parasprites/210068732375744)
My Little Pony: Roleplaying is Magic, Season Two (http://www.mlprim.com/) (Homebrew)
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, The Roleplaying Game (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2zrjqXYhlMcN2Q0M2VmNmMtY2I4Mi00YjA1LTg3NDctYzQ2Z GZiMDQ3ZGFk/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1) (Homebrew)
Pony Tales the RPG (http://catspaw-dtp-services.deviantart.com/gallery/39628312) (D6 system based)
Friendship is FATE (https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1PX7R81aQyH_HoJ7_tfOMhivgoh5T3tOgzgSXyZMWlQ g) (FATE system)
The Savage World of My Little Pony (http://giftkrieg23.deviantart.com/gallery/30436047) (Savage Worlds)
My Little Legend (http://www.ruleofcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/My-Little-Legend.pdf) (Ponies using the Legend RPG (https://s3.amazonaws.com/det_1/Legend.pdf) from Rule of Cool RPGs)
Puzzles and Ponies (http://puzzlesandponies.deviantart.com/) (Homebrew)
Ponycraft (http://ponycraft.org/rpg/) (3D6 Homebrew)
Friendship is Magic, the Tabletop RPG (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192468) (Homebrew, these forums)
Ponies: The Roleplaying Game (http://msfhwraith.deviantart.com/art/Pony-RPG-First-Draft-289542812) (Homebrew)
Sereg's Pony RPG (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KyPWVXT93Zz8LiZawFxl6kUy0OrdlQYcBBXo-Sv6GKw/edit?pli=1) (D10 Homebrew)
Unknown Ponies: Failure is Awesome (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3207923/Unknown%20Ponies%20Failure%20is%20Awesome.pdf) (Unknown Armies)
Don't Rest Your Hooves (http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Don%27t_Rest_Your_Hooves) (Don't Rest Your Head)
Don't Hate Your Friends (http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?648876-DRYH-My-Little-Pony-FIM-Don-t-Hate-Your-Friends) (Don't Rest Your Head hack, under discussion)
Ponies! My Little Pony: D20 adaptation (http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=12296.0)
Pony Races for D&D 3.5 (These forums) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182994)
Pony Races for Pathfinder (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MTe-vJ44LNepZAT3Eqta5qkxntS8nefLDBpNAf4lFMI/edit)
Ponies for D&D 4e (http://tradwiki.foxxtrot.net/index.php?title=Pony)
Courage is Magic 1.13 (http://littlelunamoonmatron.deviantart.com/art/Courage-is-Magic-1-13-MLP-Tabletop-Game-346132380) (Based on D&D4e, still in alpha state)
Ponyfinder thread on Paizo forum (http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz52pj?Prisons-and-PoniesPonyfinder-Feedback-needed#41)
Storyteller based Pony RPG tumblr (http://tabletop-friendship.tumblr.com/)
Fallout: Equestria (https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AcokIqzJW7QSZGYzdzdjY2pfMGRubXd6amY4) (Fallout Tabletop d100 project from [email protected] )
Fallout: Equestria PNP (Revised) (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fsNLwKTWEt0pawFWLRzBtEPfvDQGitGPh8NN3Zk0xo4/edit?pli=1) (Homebrew, unrelated)

Further contributions and updates welcome!

[Welf]

Those basically look like evil versions of the Mane6. Where are their goatees?

@ Trixie. I vote "Everything is going to be ok".

Now that I think about it, that seemed more like the voice of the writers speaking directly to us.

You mean these evil, evil ponies?


http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/136/0/8/mlp_fim__twilight_by_sunley-d3ame7z.png (http://sunley.deviantart.com/)

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/128/c/a/mlp_fim__applejack_by_sunley-d3alns8.png

http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/148/b/8/mlp_fim__firefly_by_sunley-d3am2u2.png

http://th09.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/150/5/a/mlp_fim__posey_by_sunley-d3c80zx.png

http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/170/c/c/mlp_fim__surprise_by_sunley-d3ccadm.png

http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/233/5/3/mlp_fim__sparkler_by_sunley-d5bx3v0.png

[Trixie]

Since there seems to be disagreement in the correct number of i's from last thread, mayhap the fine gentelcolts here would like to vote for one looking best? http://i.imgur.com/N2nfK.jpg

Anyway, the point I wanted to make, fixed the mess in links made by thread sixty, so you can expect (actual) new content today (for me, probably tomorrow for US) -.-

[Anarion]

You mean these evil, evil ponies?


http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/136/0/8/mlp_fim__twilight_by_sunley-d3ame7z.png (http://sunley.deviantart.com/)

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/128/c/a/mlp_fim__applejack_by_sunley-d3alns8.png

http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/148/b/8/mlp_fim__firefly_by_sunley-d3am2u2.png

http://th09.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/150/5/a/mlp_fim__posey_by_sunley-d3c80zx.png

http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/170/c/c/mlp_fim__surprise_by_sunley-d3ccadm.png

http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/233/5/3/mlp_fim__sparkler_by_sunley-d5bx3v0.png


Evil? Just look at that Fluttershy expy hairstyle. How could anything that looks like that possibly be evil?


Since there seems to be disagreement in the correct number of i's from last thread, mayhap the fine gentelcolts here would like to vote for one looking best? http://i.imgur.com/N2nfK.jpg

Anyway, the point I wanted to make, fixed the mess in links made by thread sixty, so you can expect (actual) new content today (for me, probably tomorrow for US) -.-

I like 1 i, personally, but I shall defer to the majority if they wish to emphasize the wings onomatopoeia.

[Tiki Snakes]

Evil? Just look at that Fluttershy expy hairstyle. How could anything that looks like that possibly be evil?



I like 1 i, personally, but I shall defer to the majority if they wish to emphasize the wings onomatopoeia.

One I is preferable, I agree.

Is it my imagination, or is applejack unchanged in the alpha line-up there?

[Soras Teva Gee]

I don't like energy drinks but if Iron Will is extending his usual guarantee...

[Pokonic]

Is it my imagination, or is applejack unchanged in the alpha line-up there?

She's not changed at all.

There is probably a joke in that.

[Kindablue]

One I is preferable, I agree.

Is it my imagination, or is applejack unchanged in the alpha line-up there?http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/045/f/a/applejack_unchained_by_coin_trip39-d5uwduy.jpg

[Trixie]

Evil? Just look at that Fluttershy expy hairstyle. How could anything that looks like that possibly be evil?

Technically, it's Fluttershy who is expy for Posey, and isn't it the same hair style that all Pinkamena slasher fics have?


I like 1 i, personally, but I shall defer to the majority if they wish to emphasize the wings onomatopoeia.

Original (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-86LWnPasI).

[DigoDragon]

Chapter 5 of Outlaw Mares (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/82063/6/outlaw-mares-1-a-hoof-full-of-trixie/chapter-5--a-resolution-to-succeed) is up.



How is step 1 and 2 different to 4? :smallconfused:

3 Song Minimum, one each of happy and sad. The 3rd is freestyle.



To be fair, when's the last time anypony heard Pinkie sing a sad song?

Well um... the last line of her Grand Galloping Gala song was kinda sad, yeah?



She's not changed at all.
There is probably a joke in that.

It means Applejack was made perfect on the first try. :smallbiggrin:

[Soras Teva Gee]

She's not changed at all.

There is probably a joke in that.

I think it clear evidence she was well designed from the start.

I don't dislike the alpha designs but I'm vaguely glad they ended up being discarded.

[Tiki Snakes]

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/045/f/a/applejack_unchained_by_coin_trip39-d5uwduy.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/avatar_a31f018b3e72_64.pngHow do you like the bounty hunting business?

http://files-cdn.formspring.me/profile/20120810/n50254269e7cea_medium.png Kill Unicorns and get paid for it? What's not to like?
Down with the Unicorns?

[Trixie]

Chapter 5 of Outlaw Mares (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/82063/6/outlaw-mares-1-a-hoof-full-of-trixie/chapter-5--a-resolution-to-succeed) is up.

Hmm, might need to check it out later :<


3 Song Minimum, one each of happy and sad. The 3rd is freestyle.

But didn't Twilight cheated then? She did basically 2.5 song...


It means Applejack was made perfect on the first try. :smallbiggrin:

First try, you say? ^^"


http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Applejack.jpg

[otakuryoga]

One I is preferable, I agree.

Is it my imagination, or is applejack unchanged in the alpha line-up there?

well..you know...we always see multiples of background ponies...........


[SIZE="1"]First try, you say? ^^"


http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Applejack.jpg
AHHHHHH! Burn it! Burn it with nuclear fire!!!!!

[MLai]

Welp, started watching MLP and currently up to Season 1 Eps. 22, or thereabouts. I always watch something when eating a meal, and recently I just wanted something lighthearted, colorful, and unwinding to watch while eating. Especially this past week while I was at home with a cold virus.
I used to watch things like Maple Town and David The Gnome for the same reason...
http://6c.img.v4.skyrock.net/1628/32011628/pics/1206798076.jpg
http://x02.xanga.com/312e4b6167c35259080874/b197708075.jpg

Anyways, this is quality children's cartoon. It's still a children's cartoon; I don't see how it's life-changing or something. But if I can stand watching 22 eps so far (within 2 weeks) and only felt distracted/bored for portions of 2 eps, then there has to be something to the show.

Question #1: Do the protags grow up as the seasons go on? As in, do the main ponies grow bigger/ older/ move/ get promoted/ graduate/ change hairstyle, etc? Or are they in frozen comic book time, and still look the same as eps. 1?

Question #2: I came across "This Day Aria" on Youtube, with that termite-eaten pony-witch-thing pictured. Does this show get a little more hardcore or something?

Jawdrop Moment: When that Diamond Dog spanked Rarity's hounch. :smalleek:
When she said "Gasp! Did you just--" I kind of expected her to say spank, before remembering this is kids show... :smallredface:

[Pokonic]

Also, for anyone vaugly interested, here is a link to the fic (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/85906/the-doom-that-came-to-ponyville)formerly known as Love and Stars, now known as, well...

Beware of out of characterness and crappy jokes, ye brave folk.

[Gamerlord]

Welp, started watching MLP and currently up to Season 1 Eps. 22, or thereabouts. I always watch something when eating a meal, and recently I just wanted something lighthearted, colorful, and unwinding to watch while eating. Especially this past week while I was at home with a cold virus.
I used to watch things like Maple Town and David The Gnome for the same reason...
http://6c.img.v4.skyrock.net/1628/32011628/pics/1206798076.jpg
http://x02.xanga.com/312e4b6167c35259080874/b197708075.jpg

Anyways, this is quality children's cartoon. It's still a children's cartoon; I don't see how it's life-changing or something. But if I can stand watching 22 eps so far (within 2 weeks) and only felt distracted/bored for portions of 2 eps, then there has to be something to the show.

Question #1: Do the protags grow up as the seasons go on? As in, do the main ponies grow bigger/ older/ move/ get promoted/ graduate/ change hairstyle, etc? Or are they in frozen comic book time, and still look the same as eps. 1?

Question #2: I came across "This Day Aria" on Youtube, with that termite-eaten pony-witch-thing pictured. Does this show get a little more hardcore or something?

Jawdrop Moment: When that Diamond Dog spanked Rarity's hounch. :smalleek:
When she said "Gasp! Did you just--" I kind of expected her to say spank, before remembering this is kids show... :smallredface:
First, welcome! :smallsmile: As for the questions...
1: Without spoiling any future episodes, well, sort of.
2: Eh, not really, that is just part of a particularly grim episode (Well, it's "particularly grim" by the standards of this show, still fairly lighthearted.)

[SlyGuyMcFly]

Also, for anyone vaugly interested, here is a link to the fic (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/85906/the-doom-that-came-to-ponyville)formerly known as Love and Stars, now known as, well...

Beware of out of characterness and crappy jokes, ye brave folk.

I got to "Celestia’s noble brow muscles tightened uncontrolably" before having to stop for a couple of minutes of strait laughing.

[Pendulous]

You mean these evil, evil ponies?


http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/136/0/8/mlp_fim__twilight_by_sunley-d3ame7z.png (http://sunley.deviantart.com/)

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/128/c/a/mlp_fim__applejack_by_sunley-d3alns8.png

http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/148/b/8/mlp_fim__firefly_by_sunley-d3am2u2.png

http://th09.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/150/5/a/mlp_fim__posey_by_sunley-d3c80zx.png

http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/170/c/c/mlp_fim__surprise_by_sunley-d3ccadm.png

http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2012/233/5/3/mlp_fim__sparkler_by_sunley-d5bx3v0.png

Yes. They look evil in that picture. As it stands, I guess they're just recolored versions.


Question #1: Do the protags grow up as the seasons go on? As in, do the main ponies grow bigger/ older/ move/ get promoted/ graduate/ change hairstyle, etc? Or are they in frozen comic book time, and still look the same as eps. 1?

Question #2: I came across "This Day Aria" on Youtube, with that termite-eaten pony-witch-thing pictured. Does this show get a little more hardcore or something?

Jawdrop Moment: When that Diamond Dog spanked Rarity's hounch. :smalleek:
When she said "Gasp! Did you just--" I kind of expected her to say spank, before remembering this is kids show... :smallredface:

1. No. But there is character development, and maturity among different characters.
2. Not really. There are three other two-parters that feature rather bleak storylines. Each one features a new big villain.
3. There are a few moments like that. One happens during season 2. Rainbow Dash darts into Fluttershy's room at night while she is sleeping. Eventually she rips away her blanket, and Fluttershy blushes and covers herself up.

[zimmerwald1915]

Question #1: Do the protags grow up as the seasons go on? As in, do the main ponies grow bigger/ older/ move/ get promoted/ graduate/ change hairstyle, etc? Or are they in frozen comic book time, and still look the same as eps. 1?
Ponies don't change much physically (though some episodes put them in different outfits and change their manecuts), as this would involve changing character models. There are a small number of exceptions, though, which you'll spot easily enough. Ponies do age, as there are mentions of birthdays and such. It's not enough to affect their character models though. One pony moving house helps set up the series, there've been allusions to other ponies planning/threatening to move house, and one episode that centered around one pony leaving town and not planning to come back. There have been a number of episodes focused on characters moving up in the world or proceeding towards their various goals.

Apropos of nothing, I keep finding videos I'd like to PMV. Shame I have literally no skill with video editing.

EDIT: removed the link after consideration.

[Anarion]

isn't it the same hair style that all Pinkamena slasher fics have?


Maybe. <_< >_>



Original (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-86LWnPasI).

Ah, classic.


I think it clear evidence she was well designed from the start.


It's uh, certainly clear evidence that they hung on to at least one trademark over twenty years. Good on them, I suppose.



http://25.media.tumblr.com/avatar_a31f018b3e72_64.pngHow do you like the bounty hunting business?

http://files-cdn.formspring.me/profile/20120810/n50254269e7cea_medium.png Kill Unicorns and get paid for it? What's not to like?
Down with the Unicorns?

Oh sure, it would be Unicorns. Because nopony ever puts a bounty on Pegasi or Earth Ponies.

[zimmerwald1915]

Oh sure, it would be Unicorns. Because nopony ever puts a bounty on Pegasi or Earth Ponies.
Nopony whose case she feels like taking...

[TheAmishPirate]

Felt... Incredibly rushed. Almost 3/4 episodes were demanding 45-60 min to be properly told.

Also, if I am to be honest, complete lack of direction. Sure, writers are great, but it feels like they just won't sit and try to coordinate overall picture of where they want to go with series. Everyone writes for virtual lone island, the only thing linking episodes in any way was that black book. You get episode with Sombra, with Cadence, with Luna, with Discord - but of curse, we can't learn anything about them despite answers to some basic questions about these characters being far more interesting than the respective episodes...

Gonna have to disagree entirely. I felt the pacing with these episodes was absolutely spot-on. Things didn't feel rushed, and there was real tight focus on the central plot and conflict. I think they're really hitting their groove on the episode length.

And to be honest...I rarely felt they were holding back on information. Sure, there are things that would be nice to know. However, it was never anything that we needed to know. And if they took time to satisfactorily explain side things, then really, that's less time to spend on the central conflict. When you've got 20 minutes per episode, that doesn't allow much time at all for rabbit trails.


Apparently my niece thought the finale was awesome. Is this where I disown her and proclaim that "I have no niece!"? :smalltongue:

I realize you're joking, but when a good chunk of the thread also thought the finale was awesome...*insert uncool implications here*

[Soras Teva Gee]

It's uh, certainly clear evidence that they hung on to at least one trademark over twenty years. Good on them, I suppose.


I kinda wonder about that given well:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jLfUyEuMrHk/TO1IvaUJ3bI/AAAAAAAADEY/ogBJpjz19aw/s1600/Lairds%2BApplejack.jpg

How do same names different products interact?

[Gamerlord]

Equestria Daily posted a summary of the Unicon Writer's Panel, in case anyone here didn't watch that but still wants to know what happened. *Some details about season four in there, including what the season opener will be about, but nothing too spoiler-y* (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/02/unicon-2013-panel-writers-room.html)

[OracleofWuffing]

OH MY GOSH I WON AN ELECTION

Does this make me a princess?


Since there seems to be disagreement in the correct number of i's from last thread, mayhap the fine gentelcolts here would like to vote for one looking best? http://i.imgur.com/N2nfK.jpg
I was under the impression that the thing to which I was referencing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31dg86OmuM) had two i's, apparently it's three.


Original (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-86LWnPasI).
Yeah, I know, I was just saying that! http://i.imgur.com/dDGKR.png


Considering panto has been around for nearly three hundred years (and even in America since the late 1800s), I feel that there is an actual deficiency in the syllabus if it wasn't even mentioned in passing (or at the very least that someone up in charge of it, somewhere, is being rather elitist, possibly because panto is not "high art" or somesuch).
I wouldn't say "elitist." I mean, this was a liberal arts environment. Nopony was elitest. http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/272/4/b/liarjack_da_avatar_by_metalbeersolid-d4bc9sj.gif

That said, despite being on scholarship for 4.5 years, I only ever took two classes, intro and costume construction, so maybe it was an advanced course.

And since we're still talking about panto!
http://i.imgur.com/eSCoPm7.jpg
I have come to the conclusion that Pinkie Pie has the easiest mane to draw, but the hardest mane to draw well.

[MLai]

Ponies don't change much physically (though some episodes put them in different outfits and change their manecuts), as this would involve changing character models.
Wait, are you saying this cartoon is CGI, not hand-drawn?
This animation looks completely hand-drawn to me. Sure, hand-drawn in Photoshop/Flash/whatev, but still drawn by hand.

[OracleofWuffing]

Wait, are you saying this cartoon is CGI, not hand-drawn?
This animation looks completely hand-drawn to me. Sure, hand-drawn in Photoshop/Flash/whatev, but still drawn by hand.
It is, indeed (http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Animation). Once upon a time, a flash game on the Hub's website was allegedly decompiled to remove a pony's sunglasses and find her real eye color.

That said, most any good quality flash animation uses a combination of onion skinning (hand drawn frames) as well as tweening (computer-generated animation frames between two main points) to make everything work.

[Anarion]

I kinda wonder about that given well:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jLfUyEuMrHk/TO1IvaUJ3bI/AAAAAAAADEY/ogBJpjz19aw/s1600/Lairds%2BApplejack.jpg

How do same names different products interact?

Poorly (http://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=applejack)

Though now I kinda want some brandy and chewing tobacco...

Somewhat more accurate answer (but not really that much more accurate)
They're all distinct enough to function as an effective identifier of their brands. As long as each use of Applejack is clear and unlikely to cause consumer confusion they can all hang onto their marks. Now, we can all sit around and ask whether the fact that there are four pages of "Applejack" trademarks is going to cause consumer confusion or not, but presumably there hasn't been enough interaction amongst all these business for anyone to consider challenging anyone else.

So, let sleeping dogs lie, basically. Plus, there's an Applejack dog training service in there, and we don't want to mess with their sleeping dogs. :smallamused:



Does this make me a princess?


Yes, we're all princesses now. Except Bleakbane, who is now a double princess, and Phoe, who remains a blog princess.

[Jothki]

Yeah, the animation is entirely combinations of symbols. New ones are created as needed, of course, but a lot of it is just picking something from a library.

[Soras Teva Gee]

It is, indeed (http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Animation). Once upon a time, a flash game on the Hub's website was allegedly decompiled to remove a pony's sunglasses and find her real eye color.

True story that one.



Though now I kinda want some brandy and chewing tobacco...


You ever had to clean up somepony's chew?

With you on the brandy though. And interesting stuff.

[Grif]

Wait, I'm a princess now?

Well, I'll be.


Get these wings off me!

[zimmerwald1915]

Yeah, the animation is entirely combinations of symbols. New ones are created as needed, of course, but a lot of it is just picking something from a library.
I feel like there's another piece of media we all enjoy quite a lot whose art gets developed in much the same way. If only I could remember what it was. It's right on the tip of my tongue...

[OracleofWuffing]

I feel like there's another piece of media we all enjoy quite a lot whose art gets developed in much the same way. If only I could remember what it was. It's right on the tip of my tongue...
I know! It was Pucca!

...

Mucha Lucha?

:elan:

[MCerberus]

Wait, I'm a princess now?

Well, I'll be.


Get these wings off me!

Pinklestia won't let you escape

edit: the best thing ever http://youtu.be/2mQO0-zNyzA

[zimmerwald1915]

Pinklestia won't let you escape

edit: the best thing ever http://youtu.be/2mQO0-zNyzA
No judgement, Twi, but would you mind explaining why you want to ride a PRC missile?

[MCerberus]

No judgement, Twi, but would you mind explaining why you want to ride a PRC missile?

Did you not read the title of the video?

[zimmerwald1915]

Did you not read the title of the video?
I did. Hence "no judgement". Sense can still be made though...at least, I hope.

[OracleofWuffing]

A certain YouTube Poop has brought a specific exchange from Season 2 to my attention.

Young Twilight Sparkle: [scoffs] You're a princess. I'm just a regular old unicorn.
Young Cadance: You are anything but a regular old unicorn.
http://i.imgur.com/W0vnZ.png

[zimmerwald1915]

A certain YouTube Poop has brought a specific exchange from Season 2 to my attention.

http://i.imgur.com/W0vnZ.png
WHAT DID CADANCE KNOW!? :smalleek:

[Grif]

All my what. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/02/blog-post_867.html)

[Soras Teva Gee]

All my what. (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/02/blog-post_867.html)

http://i.imgur.com/uvyb4.png Screw you I do what I want. Also Slowpoke Slow ;)

[HalfTangible]

Oh sure, it would be Unicorns. Because nopony ever puts a bounty on Pegasi or Earth Ponies.

Why would anypony hire an earth pony to hunt a pegasus? All the latter would have to do would be go into hiding in the SKY and the earth pony would NEVER FIND HER.

[Anarion]

http://i.imgur.com/uvyb4.png Screw you I do what I want. Also Slowpoke Slow ;)

Geez EQD, I didn't realize Las Vegas was so boring. Shouldn't they be losing all their money on blackjack or something?


Why would anypony hire an earth pony to hunt a pegasus? All the latter would have to do would be go into hiding in the SKY and the earth pony would NEVER FIND HER.

I don't really see this working any better for unicorns if you want to be logical about it. They don't actually have to build doors in their houses, after all, and they can levitate out unwanted guests.

Edit: Plus, balloons and skycycles exist in Equestria.

[t209]

http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_507_20-mind-blowing-then-vs.-now-comparisons_p20#1
I wonder if HUB (Formerly Discovery Kids Channel) and AMC were the only channels that didn't turn out to be TLC (though HUB is a bit debatable since there are people who viewed My Little Pony as annoying).

[Anarion]

Well, this is pretty much the most terrible thing to ever exist. (http://renaissancebrony.deviantart.com/art/Fluttershy-Slap-355828069)

[OracleofWuffing]

Edit: Plus, balloons and skycycles exist in Equestria.
Yeah, Pinkie's pretty good at tracking down Dashy.

E: Come to think of it, that's probably something the family has in fannon-common, chasing things down... :smalltongue:

[Tiki Snakes]

Oh sure, it would be Unicorns. Because nopony ever puts a bounty on Pegasi or Earth Ponies.

It's unicorns because they are the man, keeping the earth pony down or some such. At least as far as the reference made by the picture goes.

[Forum Explorer]

I apparently haven't posted yet. Weird.


So here's a question for you all; for those who watched all spoilers did you find it was a more enjoyable experience?

For those, like me, who avoided spoilers to the best of their ability; did you find it made the show more enjoyable?


Personally I did find it more enjoyable since I basically didn't worry about things like Trixie's return or Discord's redemption. Knowing about those in advance would have just given me time to freak out and worry, liking giving me a more negative initial viewing.

[MLai]

Well, this is pretty much the most terrible thing to ever exist. (http://renaissancebrony.deviantart.com/art/Fluttershy-Slap-355828069)
Naw, it's just her rabbit. Have you ever had a rabbit slap you? It's as fluffy as it sounds.

Edit: Regarding spoilers.
For me, it doesn't matter for a show like this. I just visited EQD and got spoiled that somehow Twilight Sparkle became a magical pony princess with wings and a horn, or something. My reaction was "Oh, okay?" *shrug*
This show isn't about overarching plots... it's just about enjoying the day-to-day character interactions and the entirely-predictable-but-wholesomely-executed moral lessons.

[Aotrs Commander]

Equestria Daily posted a summary of the Unicon Writer's Panel, in case anyone here didn't watch that but still wants to know what happened. *Some details about season four in there, including what the season opener will be about, but nothing too spoiler-y* (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/02/unicon-2013-panel-writers-room.html)

The most interesting thing there was the (currently-held, and thus not necessarily always true) view that Sombra is permenantly down for the count. Which clearly shows he was pretty unequivocably Evil to the hilt.

Also, giving us free reign to bring him back from the Undead if mood takes us, without worryng about him being *eyeglow roll* "redeemed."


For those, like me, who avoided spoilers to the best of their ability; did you find it made the show more enjoyable?

Well, aside from last episode, where it was basically an open secret, I prefer to be surprised where I can.

Naruto is about the only thing I have given up avoiding spoilers on (mainly because while I was reading Naruto fanfic on a daily basis, and only watching the UK-release of the anime, it was basically impossible to avoid them.)

[Deadly]

I realize you're joking, but when a good chunk of the thread also thought the finale was awesome...*insert uncool implications here*

*insert your favorite example of the majority being wrong* :smalltongue:

[SiuiS]

I kinda wonder about that given well:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jLfUyEuMrHk/TO1IvaUJ3bI/AAAAAAAADEY/ogBJpjz19aw/s1600/Lairds%2BApplejack.jpg

How do same names different products interact?

It's the difference between flapjacks as a food item, and a specific character named flapjack.

Hi ponies! Goodness I'm exhausted. I think maybe I'm diurnal >_<

[BlasTech]

Well, this is pretty much the most terrible thing to ever exist. (http://renaissancebrony.deviantart.com/art/Fluttershy-Slap-355828069)

"You're a monster" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa6Kv1fOStM) D:

[Thanqol]

Sooooo...

DERPY DAY!

Looks like I'ma run it on Thursday. Preparations are underway. Lot of logistics moving all those muffins.

Gonna be radical.

[zimmerwald1915]

Naw, it's just her rabbit. Have you ever had a rabbit slap you? It's as fluffy as it sounds.
Counterpoint. (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ln4bjvR9Mo1qfm0klo1_500.jpg)

[Grif]

I apparently haven't posted yet. Weird.


So here's a question for you all; for those who watched all spoilers did you find it was a more enjoyable experience?

For those, like me, who avoided spoilers to the best of their ability; did you find it made the show more enjoyable?


Personally I did find it more enjoyable since I basically didn't worry about things like Trixie's return or Discord's redemption. Knowing about those in advance would have just given me time to freak out and worry, liking giving me a more negative initial viewing.

Not viewing spoilers made the initial viewing of the episode more enjoyable, that's for sure. (Except alicorn Twilight, because everyone and their mother was talkin' about it. It was impossible to be not spoiled.)

[Balmas]

Counterpoint. (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ln4bjvR9Mo1qfm0klo1_500.jpg)

http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTMvMDEvMjYvMTdfNTRfNDNfNzkzXzIyNDQwN1 9fVU5PUFRfX3NhZmVfdHdpbGlnaHRfc3BhcmtsZV9pbWFnZV9t YWNyb19hcnRpc3RfZm9uZ3NhdW5kZXJfYnJhaW5fYmxlYWNoLn BuZy5wbmciXV0/224407__safe_twilight-sparkle_image-macro_artist-fongsaunder_brain-bleach.png.png

[SiuiS]

Well, this is pretty much the most terrible thing to ever exist. (http://renaissancebrony.deviantart.com/art/Fluttershy-Slap-355828069)

I know, right? Jeez. Who makes flash games but doesn't compile them in an i-Friendly format? It's like they want me to think their work is just a grey rectangle with a non sequitur name.


Not viewing spoilers made the initial viewing of the episode more enjoyable, that's for sure. (Except alicorn Twilight, because everyone and their mother was talkin' about it. It was impossible to be not spoiled.)

hahahahaha! Yeah. Poor Random Alicat, at least he was spoiled by friends XD

[erikun]

I apparently haven't posted yet. Weird.


So here's a question for you all; for those who watched all spoilers did you find it was a more enjoyable experience?

For those, like me, who avoided spoilers to the best of their ability; did you find it made the show more enjoyable?


Personally I did find it more enjoyable since I basically didn't worry about things like Trixie's return or Discord's redemption. Knowing about those in advance would have just given me time to freak out and worry, liking giving me a more negative initial viewing.
Wouldn't this be kind of difficult to compare? I mean, I can't compare how I enjoyed it directly with how someone else enjoyed it, and I can't exactly watch it for the first time twice to see how spoilers mattered. :smalltongue:

That said, I made it a point to avoid spoilers and ended up pretty happy with the results. I knew some general ideas (Trixie was coming back, Discord was coming back, Spike episode, alicorn Twilight) but it was nice to see the songs/ideas in a proper frame of reference rather than taken out of context with a 5-minute clip or an advertisement.

[DigoDragon]

But didn't Twilight cheated then? She did basically 2.5 song...
Hmm, might need to check it out later :<

Well, Unicorns being the whole "Master race" thing and Celestia likely pulled some strings for her... :smallbiggrin: ...whoa, it's 10am already? I feel like I just woke up. :smallconfused:

(I hope you enjoy it)



[First try, you say? ^^"

http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Applejack.jpg

What made this hilarious was that my daughter walked by and shouted "Applejack!!" Oh yeah, my daughter always recognizes her Best Pony.



Somewhat more accurate answer (but not really that much more accurate)[/SPOILER]

And then there's names that become so ubiquitous that anyone can use it, like "Band-Aid".



Wait, I'm a princess now?
Well, I'll be.

I'm both surprised and confused.



Well, this is pretty much the most terrible thing to ever exist. (http://renaissancebrony.deviantart.com/art/Fluttershy-Slap-355828069)

... O.o` WTF?



Also, giving us free reign to bring him back from the Undead if mood takes us, without worryng about him being *eyeglow roll* "redeemed."

Lich Sombra? :smallbiggrin:
Cause I think vampires and zombies have totally run their course, so that leaves me with liches and mummies for ideas.

[otakuryoga]

time for PONY!
o..wait... :smallfrown:
the long looooooong drought has officially begun

oh, and i hope you all enjoyed National Margarita Day responsibly yesterday
--i of course could not since i work second shift..so am celebrating it today :smallcool:

[SlyGuyMcFly]

Counterpoint. (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ln4bjvR9Mo1qfm0klo1_500.jpg)

Ah, Watership Down. One of my favourite movies as a kid.

[Kd7sov]

Cause I think vampires and zombies have totally run their course, so that leaves me with liches and mummies for ideas.

I read that as "vampires and zebras". So I was trying to figure out what they have in common.

Not much, as far as I can figure out.

[t209]

Lich Sombra? :smallbiggrin:
Cause I think vampires and zombies have totally run their course, so that leaves me with liches and mummies for ideas.
Or a sick pony royalty who was possessed by a magical artifact (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elric_of_Melnibon%C3%A9).
P.S- So how many of you thought that Hasbro buying Discovery Kids was a bad idea before Transformers Prime and My Little Pony were released, afraid that it might turn into what happened to TLC?

[otakuryoga]

Ah, Watership Down. One of my favourite movies as a kid.

http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/thumbs/1000/1400/2012/07/12/20_46_22_989_41920__safe_comic_mane_6_artist_james _corck_watership_down

[TheAmishPirate]

I apparently haven't posted yet. Weird.


So here's a question for you all; for those who watched all spoilers did you find it was a more enjoyable experience?

For those, like me, who avoided spoilers to the best of their ability; did you find it made the show more enjoyable?


Personally I did find it more enjoyable since I basically didn't worry about things like Trixie's return or Discord's redemption. Knowing about those in advance would have just given me time to freak out and worry, liking giving me a more negative initial viewing.

Oddly enough, those were the two episodes what got spoiled for me. That, and the finale, of course.

On a whole, I think I would've been happier going in blind, and I enjoyed the episodes that I didn't spoil for myself a bit more. Seeing spoilers gives you expectations, thoughts on how the plot should go, and the disappointment of being wrong can leech enjoyment from what would've been a good episode.


*insert your favorite example of the majority being wrong* :smalltongue:

It's not about being right or wrong, it's about the fact that I don't jokingly insinuate folks who hated the finale must've had their pantaloons full of undead sea bass, and asking for the same level of respect in return.

That, and think I've just been noticing that between folks who liked the finale and folks who didn't, we hear lots more from the latter category than the former, despite my recollection that the general response was positive. Is complaining/critiquing really that much easier than praising, or am going crazy?


Sooooo...

DERPY DAY!

Looks like I'ma run it on Thursday. Preparations are underway. Lot of logistics moving all those muffins.

Gonna be radical.

This calls for (http://parallaxmlp.deviantart.com/art/Derpy-Loves-her-Lava-Lamp-270265125) some Derpy. (http://griffsnuff.deviantart.com/art/Derpy-Hooves-269500401)

[zimmerwald1915]

That, and think I've just been noticing that between folks who liked the finale and folks who didn't, we hear lots more from the latter category than the former, despite my recollection that the general response was positive. Is complaining/critiquing really that much easier than praising, or am going crazy?
Complaining's the easiest thing in the world. Complaining well's slightly harder.

[Anarion]

I apparently haven't posted yet. Weird.


So here's a question for you all; for those who watched all spoilers did you find it was a more enjoyable experience?

For those, like me, who avoided spoilers to the best of their ability; did you find it made the show more enjoyable?


Personally I did find it more enjoyable since I basically didn't worry about things like Trixie's return or Discord's redemption. Knowing about those in advance would have just given me time to freak out and worry, liking giving me a more negative initial viewing.

I generally watch all the spoilers because I enjoy speculation and discussion and I've never found them to detract from an episode. for the finale specifically, I chose to avoid all the spoilers and the song because that episode had been built up so much (both good and bad) that I just wanted to take in the whole thing without getting it in bits and pieces. I still knew it was a musical in advance and that Twilight became an alicorn, though.

And overall, I really liked the last episode, so I think avoiding the spoilers was good in that case because I was wowed by all the animation and music even if the story wasn't the best ever done.

That said, I don't plan on avoiding spoilers in the future. I don't find that they detract from the episode and I do really enjoy being able to read the thread, discuss ideas, and make predictions.



And then there's names that become so ubiquitous that anyone can use it, like "Band-Aid".


You mean Band-Aid® Brand adhesive bandages? :smallconfused:

[erikun]

Complaining's the easiest thing in the world. Complaining well's slightly harder.
A Complaining Well? Something like a Wishing Well, but with more critique? :smalltongue:

[One Tin Soldier]

Have some Rainbow Dash comic
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/053/1/6/when_no_one_is_watching__rainbow_dash__by_taco_sla yer-d5vspfo.jpg

[TheAmishPirate]

A Complaining Well? Something like a Wishing Well, but with more critique? :smalltongue:

"A puppy? You had one penny on you, one chance to get your heart's desire, and you blew it on a puppy? Pardon me, but I didn't realize it was amateur hour already."

******************************

So, I saw this panel (http://25.media.tumblr.com/867b3f93caf55373ff9903c9950d4e58/tumblr_miny723rEL1rkbdyvo6_1280.png) from an ask blog I follow, and it got me to thinking; how does the reappearance of the Crystal Empire affect the Changelings? If there's love and happiness everywhere, can they just veg out on ambient pony pathos?

Source is Ask Merriweather (http://askmerriweather.tumblr.com/), some dark stuff.

[Soras Teva Gee]

I generally watch all the spoilers because I enjoy speculation and discussion and I've never found them to detract from an episode. for the finale specifically, I chose to avoid all the spoilers and the song because that episode had been built up so much (both good and bad) that I just wanted to take in the whole thing without getting it in bits and pieces. I still knew it was a musical in advance and that Twilight became an alicorn, though.

I'm of course long on record for not caring about spoilers at all. Or more precisely I don't feel spoilers actually exist all that often. Oh noes there's a song in this episode is *not* a spoiler for example, nor is a basic premise like the blurbs we know beforehand.

However I feel pony this season often crossed a subtle line and stopped watching all of the previews. I don't fear spoilers but I do like to watch my episodes in whole chunks and you could get half the episode putting together various previews this season. Just not seeing it was enough though, I'd have no problem with a description of the preview. This is more of having an audio/visual experience of the entertainment versus merely intellectually knowing what happens.

[Anarion]

Well, now we know what happened to Derpy. Mystery solved.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/053/2/c/stonebolt___mystery_solved_by_stonebolt-d5vusxr.png

[TheAmishPirate]

So, this is kind of an awesome series of gifs:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/4461a9851f22e286d2d222e0d796710a/tumblr_minfyo6gTy1s5s1doo2_500.gif

http://24.media.tumblr.com/62896d0f1aead3596ae1785549b4d932/tumblr_minfyo6gTy1s5s1doo3_500.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/86b29b98c2ae2c3cac521ed1a154878a/tumblr_minfyo6gTy1s5s1doo6_500.gif

http://24.media.tumblr.com/fd652eb29abb9ef4c2b1cee05d1137a5/tumblr_minfyo6gTy1s5s1doo1_500.gif

http://24.media.tumblr.com/39a73d831e73a94d168274f9a730fea2/tumblr_minfyo6gTy1s5s1doo5_500.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/429cf84ab05389a6e5fab82ea469f2a1/tumblr_minfyo6gTy1s5s1doo4_500.gif

[Soras Teva Gee]

Well, now we know what happened to Derpy. Mystery solved.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/053/2/c/stonebolt___mystery_solved_by_stonebolt-d5vusxr.png

Brilliant yes.

[Beacon of Chaos]

So here's a question for you all; for those who watched all spoilers did you find it was a more enjoyable experience?
I did the no spoilers thing for season 2. While it gave me a good few surprises as to plot lines and such, I felt that indulging in spoilers during season 3 didn't really affect my enjoyment of the show, and that deliberately trying to avoid spoilers was more trouble than it was worth. Having to avoid certain sites, not opening spoiler boxes, and even then something was bound to be spoiled because people on the internet often don't care about proper tags and warnings.

So on the whole, I'd rather just take the spoilers and save myself some hassle.

I do think that Hub went overboard with the previews this season, however.


Sooooo...

DERPY DAY!

Looks like I'ma run it on Thursday. Preparations are underway. Lot of logistics moving all those muffins.

Gonna be radical.
Ooh! Yay!
http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/media/W1siZiIsIjIwMTMvMDIvMjIvMTNfMzBfMzhfODM2XzI1MTc1OV 9fVU5PUFRfX3NhZmVfZGVycHlfaG9vdmVzX2FydGlzdF9yaWtv c2UucG5nLnBuZyJdXQ/251759__safe_rainbow-dash_derpy-hooves_school-uniform_artist-rikose.png.png

[MLai]

Quote: Originally Posted by MLai
Naw, it's just her rabbit. Have you ever had a rabbit slap you? It's as fluffy as it sounds.
Counterpoint. (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ln4bjvR9Mo1qfm0klo1_500.jpg)
And here I thought someone was gonna counterpoint with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCI18qAoKq4

"That's no ordinary rabbit!!"

[Forum Explorer]

Sooooo...

DERPY DAY!

Looks like I'ma run it on Thursday. Preparations are underway. Lot of logistics moving all those muffins.

Gonna be radical.

That's March 1st right? I'm going to see if I can get a table to give muffins away at.

[Pendulous]

New Friendship is Witchcraft!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJmIvOBcJEs

Actually, that was rather disappointing. I got the biggest laugh from the credits in the video description for "Crest Pro-Health".

[Aotrs Commander]

Aaaand four pantos down and done for another year... (Lummie, two performances in a day is wearying...)

S'funny what you find out, sometimes, randomly talking to people; I was chatting to one of lasses in the cast during the interval (who I've known for a few years) and discovered we have similiar tastes in anime and cartoons. Just goes to show.


Lich Sombra? :smallbiggrin:
Cause I think vampires and zombies have totally run their course, so that leaves me with liches and mummies for ideas.

Works for me...!

[Welf]

Counterpoint. (http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ln4bjvR9Mo1qfm0klo1_500.jpg)

Looks like Angel's role model :smalltongue:

Also, more Derpy?



http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/018/4/d/sombra_worst_nightmare_by_foxlytails-d5rw2wj.png

[Eakin]

New Friendship is Witchcraft!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJmIvOBcJEs

Actually, that was rather disappointing. I got the biggest laugh from the credits in the video description for "Crest Pro-Health".

Really? I loved it. Did you read all the spinning newspapers.

"It's not... CREEPY!" That'll be stuck in my head for a while;

[MCerberus]

New Friendship is Witchcraft!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJmIvOBcJEs

Actually, that was rather disappointing. I got the biggest laugh from the credits in the video description for "Crest Pro-Health".

Well that got weird quickly
and often.

[Pendulous]

Really? I loved it. Did you read all the spinning newspapers.

"It's not... CREEPY!" That'll be stuck in my head for a while;

That high-paced part of the song was amusing. Reminded me of some other song, but I couldn't pinpoint what.

[Anarion]

New Friendship is Witchcraft!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJmIvOBcJEs

Actually, that was rather disappointing. I got the biggest laugh from the credits in the video description for "Crest Pro-Health".

Well, that's certainly one way to reinterpret that story. It also wasn't creepy at all.

[Soras Teva Gee]

Hey I found what Celestia and Luna should have been wearing during in the finale:

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/054/4/4/a_solar_ensemble_by_memershnick-d5vzilf.png (http://memershnick.deviantart.com/art/A-Solar-Ensemble-356056035)
http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/054/7/0/a_lavish_lunar_dress_by_memershnick-d5vzj4t.png (http://memershnick.deviantart.com/art/A-Lavish-Lunar-Dress-356056733)

[thubby]

Hey I found what Celestia and Luna should have been wearing during in the finale:

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/054/4/4/a_solar_ensemble_by_memershnick-d5vzilf.png (http://memershnick.deviantart.com/art/A-Solar-Ensemble-356056035)
http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/054/7/0/a_lavish_lunar_dress_by_memershnick-d5vzj4t.png (http://memershnick.deviantart.com/art/A-Lavish-Lunar-Dress-356056733)

i always pictured luna as the sort to go with a simple black dress. maybe one that glitters a bit.

[TheAmishPirate]

Hey I found what Celestia and Luna should have been wearing during in the finale:

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/054/4/4/a_solar_ensemble_by_memershnick-d5vzilf.png (http://memershnick.deviantart.com/art/A-Solar-Ensemble-356056035)
http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/054/7/0/a_lavish_lunar_dress_by_memershnick-d5vzj4t.png (http://memershnick.deviantart.com/art/A-Lavish-Lunar-Dress-356056733)

Hot dang, those are sweet. Luna looks good in dark violet.

In other cool pony art, here's Big Macintosh in Wind Waker style:
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/343/a/a/wind_waker___big_macintosh_by_awilddrawfagappears-d5nkiss.jpg

Dat chin. He could buck a whole orchard with that chin.

[SiuiS]

It's not about being right or wrong, it's about the fact that I don't jokingly insinuate folks who hated the finale must've had their pantaloons full of undead sea bass, and asking for the same level of respect in return.

I've been having these conversations a lot for the last few weeks. A lot of people are remarkably personable when you cut through the default sarcasm, snark and conceit. It's Hard to hit the right level of sincerity to get through though.


That, and think I've just been noticing that between folks who liked the finale and folks who didn't, we hear lots more from the latter category than the former, despite my recollection that the general response was positive. Is complaining/critiquing really that much easier than praising, or am going crazy?

Add two odd numbers; even.
Add two even numbers; even.
Add one of each; odd.

Math, right? Simple. If you say "I did not like the episode" that's a detraction. If you say "I did like the episode" and the response is "what, why? It was terrible" that's still a net sum of detraction. Plus downsides stick in the mind more.


I generally watch all the spoilers because I enjoy speculation and discussion and I've never found them to detract from an episode. for the finale specifically, I chose to avoid all the spoilers and the song because that episode had been built up so much (both good and bad) that I just wanted to take in the whole thing without getting it in bits and pieces. I still knew it was a musical in advance and that Twilight became an alicorn, though.

And overall, I really liked the last episode, so I think avoiding the spoilers was good in that case because I was wowed by all the animation and music even if the story wasn't the best ever done.

That said, I don't plan on avoiding spoilers in the future. I don't find that they detract from the episode and I do really enjoy being able to read the thread, discuss ideas, and make predictions.

I think it's a fine balance, and 'spoilers' cannot mean just information about a thin before its full release. 'Spoilers' also includes the context built up around and within the group that has the information, the connotations and the estimates and expectations that stem from it. And that did directly affect my enjoyment. To the point that when spoilers spilled out of boxes into te general aura of people around, when had flings of disappointment and antagonism fed off of each other in an orgy of egos, celebrity and factionalism I just left. I do not like being in a ponythread where I despair at worst and just don't care at best; caring is what appealed to me. I think the glut of spoilers caused almost everyone I know to miss the forest for the trees, and I don't go to a forest to argue cypress over birch until both parties are bitter. I go for the scenic forest view, and what it stirs in me, what the colors and textures as a whole mean when discussed.



You mean Band-Aid® Brand adhesive bandages? :smallconfused:

He means coca-cola, and ordering a coke not meaning ordering a coca-cola. :smallwink:

[Forderz]

I really liked the new FiW. the song was amazing, although it started off slow, and I loved the dark mirror Jenny and Griffin held up to Twilight.

Twilight being convinced Cadence Notevilgoodpony was up to know good in order to justify her twisted desire to marry her totally adopted brother, juxtaposed with Twilight being certain Cadence/Chrysalis was up to know good in order to protect her brother... brilliant.

Corndogs. Cowabunga. Pinkie's lines being cut for time. Spike hoping for adoption and Applejack crushing it with "Dreams are for Winners."

Glorious.

[Thanqol]

Hey guys, the Derpy Day EQD post (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/02/derpy-day-2013-operation-indiscriminate.html) is up! I am a committed pony!

Please send your letters, pictures and videos and whatever else in! Let's herp a derp a doodly doo!

[Madcrafter]

Hey guys, the Derpy Day EQD post (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/02/derpy-day-2013-operation-indiscriminate.html) is up! I am a committed pony!

Please send your letters, pictures and videos and whatever else in! Let's herp a derp a doodly doo!

Cool, you're the one who started it? That is dedication. I will hazard a guess that I will be able to find a free muffin stand at a location near me.

[BlasTech]

Huh, there were more installments in that "what they do when their friends weren't watching" comic series:

Rarity
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/040/5/c/when_no_one_is_watching__rarity__by_taco_slayer-d5ufpvs.jpg

Fluttershy
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/042/6/8/when_no_one_is_watching_by_taco_slayer-d5tnus4.jpg

[Pendulous]

Huh, there were more installments in that "what they do when their friends weren't watching" comic series:

Rarity
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/040/5/c/when_no_one_is_watching__rarity__by_taco_slayer-d5ufpvs.jpg

Fluttershy
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/042/6/8/when_no_one_is_watching_by_taco_slayer-d5tnus4.jpg

And now Fluttershy is even more awesome.

[Thanqol]

Boojah. I just got a like from Kkat for Study In Rainbows (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36445/a-study-in-rainbows#comment/2166350). I feel inordinately proud.

(Also I have learned from my subsequent reread that nothing ages quite as poorly as reference humour. Ick)

[Balmas]

Hot dang, those are sweet. Luna looks good in dark violet.

In other cool pony art, here's Big Macintosh in Wind Waker style:
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/343/a/a/wind_waker___big_macintosh_by_awilddrawfagappears-d5nkiss.jpg

Dat chin. He could buck a whole orchard with that chin.

Forget the chin, check out that chest.


Boojah. I just got a like from Kkat for Study In Rainbows (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36445/a-study-in-rainbows#comment/2166350). I feel inordinately proud.

(Also I have learned from my subsequent reread that nothing ages quite as poorly as reference humour. Ick)

Congrats!


Ponythread, I have a sudden question to ask everybody.

In the first episode of season 13, Celestia is informed that the Crystal empire has returned. Shortly thereafter, Twilight and company travel to the Crystal empire... to find that Cadence and Shining Armor are already there.

Just how is this possible? Was there a week's delay between the coming of Cadence and the coming of the Mane six? For that matter, how come Shining Armor and Cadence are in positions of power? Is it just that they realized that Alicorn trumps Earth pony? What happened?

[Pokonic]

Fluttershy
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/042/6/8/when_no_one_is_watching_by_taco_slayer-d5tnus4.jpg

Fluttershy: Terror of Neighgas?


Boojah. I just got a like from Kkat for Study In Rainbows (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36445/a-study-in-rainbows#comment/2166350). I feel inordinately proud.

(Also I have learned from my subsequent reread that nothing ages quite as poorly as reference humour. Ick)

Ooh, thats wonderful!

[SiuiS]

CE is farther from Ponyville than from Canterlot? it makes a certain level of sense, in that some pony would be sent to hold down the fort while the real troops were being mustered. I would hazard that if Twilight got there, as a diplomatic emissary from another sovereign nation, and found absolutely no infrastructure at all in place to make her trip legitimate, it would have raised worse questions. I think it is a clear example of using narrative inertia, in which something is expected even of logistically improbable, because too much logical constraint would change things for the worse.

I mean, Sombra was the legitimate ruler, even of a tyrant. Without some level of preeatablished right to interfere, suddenly same Sparkle's arrival is an act of belligerence on part of Equestria. It's easier to hoofwave Cadance and Shining Armor there ahead of them than to explain why Celestia feels she has a right to assassinate another kingdom's ruler.

[Forum Explorer]

Hey I found what Celestia and Luna should have been wearing during in the finale:

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/054/4/4/a_solar_ensemble_by_memershnick-d5vzilf.png (http://memershnick.deviantart.com/art/A-Solar-Ensemble-356056035)
http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/054/7/0/a_lavish_lunar_dress_by_memershnick-d5vzj4t.png (http://memershnick.deviantart.com/art/A-Lavish-Lunar-Dress-356056733)

That would have been much better. Except that they need headgear. Everypony else had some.


Forget the chin, check out that chest.



Congrats!


Ponythread, I have a sudden question to ask everybody.

In the first episode of season 13, Celestia is informed that the Crystal empire has returned. Shortly thereafter, Twilight and company travel to the Crystal empire... to find that Cadence and Shining Armor are already there.

Just how is this possible? Was there a week's delay between the coming of Cadence and the coming of the Mane six? For that matter, how come Shining Armor and Cadence are in positions of power? Is it just that they realized that Alicorn trumps Earth pony? What happened?

A couple things;

1. Cadence and Shining Armor were already in Canterlot and were immediately dispatched while Twilight had to go to Canterlot first to receive the test.

Actually just the one, I lied :smalltongue:


CE is farther from Ponyville than from Canterlot? it makes a certain level of sense, in that some pony would be sent to hold down the fort while the real troops were being mustered. I would hazard that if Twilight got there, as a diplomatic emissary from another sovereign nation, and found absolutely no infrastructure at all in place to make her trip legitimate, it would have raised worse questions. I think it is a clear example of using narrative inertia, in which something is expected even of logistically improbable, because too much logical constraint would change things for the worse.

I mean, Sombra was the legitimate ruler, even of a tyrant. Without some level of preeatablished right to interfere, suddenly same Sparkle's arrival is an act of belligerence on part of Equestria. It's easier to hoofwave Cadance and Shining Armor there ahead of them than to explain why Celestia feels she has a right to assassinate another kingdom's ruler.

Celestia and Luna invaded the crystal empire a thousand or so years ago. Clearly they won and claimed the land as their own sovereign territory and stopping Sombra's coup via assassination by a highly skilled team of mares is perfectly justified.

[Thanqol]

In the first episode of season 13, Celestia is informed that the Crystal empire has returned. Shortly thereafter, Twilight and company travel to the Crystal empire... to find that Cadence and Shining Armor are already there.

Just how is this possible? Was there a week's delay between the coming of Cadence and the coming of the Mane six? For that matter, how come Shining Armor and Cadence are in positions of power? Is it just that they realized that Alicorn trumps Earth pony? What happened?

'cause they were the ones who brought it back, duh.

[thubby]

In the first episode of season 13, Celestia is informed that the Crystal empire has returned. Shortly thereafter, Twilight and company travel to the Crystal empire... to find that Cadence and Shining Armor are already there.

Just how is this possible? Was there a week's delay between the coming of Cadence and the coming of the Mane six? For that matter, how come Shining Armor and Cadence are in positions of power? Is it just that they realized that Alicorn trumps Earth pony? What happened?

it's unsurprising that shining would already be there. he's a military trained leader with political power to boot. he is basically the pony to send when stuff starts happening.
cadence is royalty and his wife besides, with magic that apparently creates or in some way interacts with love and peace.

[SiuiS]

'cause they were the ones who brought it back, duh.

That was my go-to answer until I recalled the whole "OMC IT IS RETURNING WTH?!" response the princesses had. I choose to believe it was a happy surprise, rather than Celestia thought Cadance was incompetent. :smallsmile:

[OracleofWuffing]

Just how is this possible? Was there a week's delay between the coming of Cadence and the coming of the Mane six? For that matter, how come Shining Armor and Cadence are in positions of power? Is it just that they realized that Alicorn trumps Earth pony? What happened?
Well, I already established upthread or in the last thread that Cadence was already privy to Twilight Sparkle's future, so... Maybe she isn't friends with Princess Celestia? :smalltongue:

Or, for something really off the wall, the train was running late due to an accident involving a muffin.

[MLai]

Currently up to Season 2 Eps 9.
I think Becoming Popular is now my fav number from this show so far. Wow.
http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Becoming_Popular_%28The_Pony_Everypony_Should_Know %29

With Find a Pet, "Becoming Popular" was nominated for "Outstanding Original Song - Children's and Animation" in the 39th Daytime Emmy Awards.[4]

It deserves it.
(The Find A Pet song is also good, but too situational as it's a narrative ballad common in plays...)

[SiuiS]

Well, I already established upthread or in the last thread that Cadence was already privy to Twilight Sparkle's future, so... Maybe she isn't friends with Princess Celestia? :smalltongue:
.

The comment in question is too vague to really be concretely accepted as foreshadowing.

That said, I personally took it as foreshadowing.

[Aotrs Commander]

Why were Shining and Cadance there first? Obvious answer, and one the show itself implied, simply that Twilight and co weren't sent out to the Empire immediately in the first place.

Cadance and Shining go to the Empire as both recon and diplomatic embassy (possibly as the rightful rulers, depending on exactly how Sombra's fall went down), which is kinda no-brainer, since Cadance is ideally suited to the job, both physically (as an alicorn, with a crystal-cutie mark) and personally, and Shining also had status, organisational, crisis-management and leadership skills (Captain of the Guard - whatever you want to say about the Royal Guard's effectiveness of lack thereof, Shining was going to be having those skills or he wouldn't have made that position.) They send a clear message to the Crystal ponies that the situation is important (because a princess just turned up to help), and to allay any fears, because it's freaking Cadance.

Twilight and co have no official standing or status1, so sending them in first (and dealing with a first-contact situation, basically) would have less of an impact, and Twilight was not in a position to be doing Cadance's job as ruler. (Now, though...) None of the Mane Six are diplomats, and they will lack the required training for doing that sort of thing. They could have a stab at it certainly, but when dealing with a probably fragile nation, it's better to use the right tool for the job, as it were.

After what is apparently a long period of enslavement - which clearly had a deterimental effect on the whole population, I don't think any of the crystal ponies were psychologically in a position to be assuming charge - they might not even have a clue to go about it, let alone deal with the fact they've been out of it for a thousand years or so. And Celestia's method of benevolent dictatorship is the best method of rulership (all the suggestions of councils or elected government bodies are entirely fanon), so it would naturaly she would send someone she could trust to do the job.)

As and when the situation became clear, and the fact that Sombra was back as well (because they didn't know that right away, only that Empire had come back), Princess C then sent the Elements, as Equestria's best trouble-shooters, to go knobble him and help get the situation under control (and convieniantly provided Twilight with another test while she's at it.) The best leaders, of course, know how to adapt to whatever comes up and turn it their best advantage. Celestia is likely to be at least as much of a "master of plan B" as Palaptine is said to be as she is a chessmaster; plans rarely survive contact with the enemy, so learning how to alter them mid-flown is a vital skill, and one that tends to be glossed over in favour of the chess master plan always working perfectly in most media.

I'm sure that the writers wrote with the intendtion that there was to be a time-gap (a week or a month or something) before Twilight and co were sent up, after Cadance and Shining being sent up; just because we saw the teaser of the empire's return the same episode doesn't mean that the events before and after the opening credits happened contiguously, after all.



1Clarifiication: as regards to government operations; Elements of Harmony aside, they are still technically civvies.

[Pendulous]

Currently up to Season 2 Eps 9.
I think Becoming Popular is now my fav number from this show so far. Wow.
http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Becoming_Popular_%28The_Pony_Everypony_Should_Know %29

With Find a Pet, "Becoming Popular" was nominated for "Outstanding Original Song - Children's and Animation" in the 39th Daytime Emmy Awards.[4]

It deserves it.
(The Find A Pet song is also good, but too situational as it's a narrative ballad common in plays...)

Becoming Popular was my favorite at that point too. Then Find a Stallion, then Love is in Bloom. Now, I'm not so sure which one is.

[MLai]

Something strange has happened.
Was in bathroom. Staring at tiles that are similar to this one:
http://www.villadelatorre.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Marble-Tile-and-Slab-Carrara-White-Marble-BM043-.jpg
Instead of seeing vague (and disturbing) human faces, which is what I should see (and have seen) as per evolutionary psychology, I was seeing ponies.
Ponies everywhere. :smalleek:
One of them was an especially pretty design if I do say so myself. Nice job, brain!
Hell I even see a pony in that sample image I put up there! Not as pretty as the one in my bathroom though.

The good thing is that I now see pretty ponies instead of hideous vaguely-human faces in random patterns. The bad thing is, should I be worried?

[DigoDragon]

oh, and i hope you all enjoyed National Margarita Day responsibly yesterday

I didn't know a relative of mine got a national holiday named after her.



I read that as "vampires and zebras". So I was trying to figure out what they have in common.

Now my brain is picturing a mashup of Zecora with the movie "Blackula"



http://cdn.derpiboo.ru/thumbs/1000/1400/2012/07/12/20_46_22_989_41920__safe_comic_mane_6_artist_james _corck_watership_down

Yeah, that kinda happens when you don't know the story ahead of time. :smallbiggrin:




This calls for (http://parallaxmlp.deviantart.com/art/Derpy-Loves-her-Lava-Lamp-270265125)

D'awww, so cute. She really gets excited over lava lamps.



You mean Band-Aid® Brand adhesive bandages? :smallconfused:

Yeah. Band-Aid and bandage are so synonymous now that the brand can't maintain sole use of the name. I believe Xerox is another brand that turned generic word.



New Friendship is Witchcraft!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJmIvOBcJEs

Actually, that was rather disappointing. I got the biggest laugh from the credits in the video description for "Crest Pro-Health".

The way they paced it... I expected a two-parter, with Twi using dark magic to corrupt Cadance in justification of destroying her, hence the changlings, but alas, it was cut short.
The song was the best part though.

...this kinda puts a hamper on using any Chrystal Empire episodes though, don't it?

[DigoDragon]

Hey I found what Celestia and Luna should have been wearing during in the finale:

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/054/4/4/a_solar_ensemble_by_memershnick-d5vzilf.png (http://memershnick.deviantart.com/art/A-Solar-Ensemble-356056035)
http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/054/7/0/a_lavish_lunar_dress_by_memershnick-d5vzj4t.png (http://memershnick.deviantart.com/art/A-Lavish-Lunar-Dress-356056733)

Wow, those outfits are much nicer!
Celestia looks nice in red.



In the first episode of season 13, Celestia is informed that the Crystal empire has returned.

I'd imagine that after 13 seasons that yes they would be recycling story ideas... :smallwink:

But I go with the lich's answer above. Cadance and Shining may have already been at Canterlot and dispatched immediately. Twi and Co. took a trip to Canterlot first before getting sent up North.



The good thing is that I now see pretty ponies instead of hideous vaguely-human faces in random patterns. The bad thing is, should I be worried?

It's called imagination. Totally normal. :smallbiggrin:

[Grif]

Something strange has happened.
Was in bathroom. Staring at tiles that are similar to this one:
http://www.villadelatorre.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Marble-Tile-and-Slab-Carrara-White-Marble-BM043-.jpg
Instead of seeing vague (and disturbing) human faces, which is what I should see (and have seen) as per evolutionary psychology, I was seeing ponies.
Ponies everywhere. :smalleek:
One of them was an especially pretty design if I do say so myself. Nice job, brain!
Hell I even see a pony in that sample image I put up there! Not as pretty as the one in my bathroom though.

The good thing is that I now see pretty ponies instead of hideous vaguely-human faces in random patterns. The bad thing is, should I be worried?

We have standard-issue cowboy hats just for this condition. :smallwink:

[Alabenson]

it's unsurprising that shining would already be there. he's a military trained leader with political power to boot. he is basically the pony to send when stuff starts happening.
cadence is royalty and his wife besides, with magic that apparently creates or in some way interacts with love and peace.

There's also the small fact that, if you look closely, Cadance's cutie mark IS the crystal heart.


The good thing is that I now see pretty ponies instead of hideous vaguely-human faces in random patterns. The bad thing is, should I be worried?

Nah, that's perfectly normal, we're all various stages of ponysanity around here.

The real fun is when your inner voices start taking on the voices and personalities of the mane 6.

[Forderz]

The way they paced it... I expected a two-parter, with Twi using dark magic to corrupt Cadance in justification of destroying her, hence the changlings, but alas, it was cut short.
The song was the best part though.

...this kinda puts a hamper on using any Chrystal Empire episodes though, don't it?

Not at all! The power of Pinkie's portal can reverse any death! Besides, we have no idea of how Pinkie responded to the events of Foaly Matripony, as all her dialogue was cut for time.

[otakuryoga]

it's unsurprising that shining would already be there. he's a military trained leader with political power to boot. he is basically the pony to send when stuff starts happening.
cadence is royalty and his wife besides, with magic that apparently creates or in some way interacts with love and peace.
and you don't send a soldier somewhere without his weapon :smalltongue:



Alternate theory: Cadance was in the market for a castle (can't be a proper pretty pony princess without a castle after all), so as soon as she heard there was one available she pounced. When she got there, she offered the crystal ponies a deal; make me your supreme leader and I'll keep the scary black cloud of smoke out.

oh, i don't know about that.. Bleakbane does well enough w/o one
I should probably go hide somewhere now

[zimmerwald1915]

oh, i don't know about that.. Bleakbane does well enough w/o one
Doesn't a mobile spaceborne command center count?

Now, I don't know that Bleakbane commands a mobile spaceborne command center, but I just find it hard to imagine him without one.

[TheAmishPirate]

Ponythread, I have a sudden question to ask everybody.

In the first episode of season 13, Celestia is informed that the Crystal empire has returned. Shortly thereafter, Twilight and company travel to the Crystal empire... to find that Cadence and Shining Armor are already there.

Just how is this possible? Was there a week's delay between the coming of Cadence and the coming of the Mane six?

Do you have any idea how long it takes to triple-inspect quills for ideal test-taking feathery-ness?

[SiuiS]

Why were Shining and Cadance there first? Obvious answer, and one the show itself implied, simply that Twilight and co weren't sent out to the Empire immediately in the first place.

Cadance and Shining go to the Empire as both recon and diplomatic embassy (possibly as the rightful rulers, depending on exactly how Sombra's fall went down), which is kinda no-brainer, since Cadance is ideally suited to the job, both physically (as an alicorn, with a crystal-cutie mark) and personally, and Shining also had status, organisational, crisis-management and leadership skills (Captain of the Guard - whatever you want to say about the Royal Guard's effectiveness of lack thereof, Shining was going to be having those skills or he wouldn't have made that position.) They send a clear message to the Crystal ponies that the situation is important (because a princess just turned up to help), and to allay any fears, because it's freaking Cadance.

Twilight and co have no official standing or status1, so sending them in first (and dealing with a first-contact situation, basically) would have less of an impact, and Twilight was not in a position to be doing Cadance's job as ruler. (Now, though...) None of the Mane Six are diplomats, and they will lack the required training for doing that sort of thing. They could have a stab at it certainly, but when dealing with a probably fragile nation, it's better to use the right tool for the job, as it were.

After what is apparently a long period of enslavement - which clearly had a deterimental effect on the whole population, I don't think any of the crystal ponies were psychologically in a position to be assuming charge - they might not even have a clue to go about it, let alone deal with the fact they've been out of it for a thousand years or so. And Celestia's method of benevolent dictatorship is the best method of rulership (all the suggestions of councils or elected government bodies are entirely fanon), so it would naturaly she would send someone she could trust to do the job.)

As and when the situation became clear, and the fact that Sombra was back as well (because they didn't know that right away, only that Empire had come back), Princess C then sent the Elements, as Equestria's best trouble-shooters, to go knobble him and help get the situation under control (and convieniantly provided Twilight with another test while she's at it.) The best leaders, of course, know how to adapt to whatever comes up and turn it their best advantage. Celestia is likely to be at least as much of a "master of plan B" as Palaptine is said to be as she is a chessmaster; plans rarely survive contact with the enemy, so learning how to alter them mid-flown is a vital skill, and one that tends to be glossed over in favour of the chess master plan always working perfectly in most media.

I'm sure that the writers wrote with the intendtion that there was to be a time-gap (a week or a month or something) before Twilight and co were sent up, after Cadance and Shining being sent up; just because we saw the teaser of the empire's return the same episode doesn't mean that the events before and after the opening credits happened contiguously, after all.



1Clarifiication: as regards to government operations; Elements of Harmony aside, they are still technically civvies.

You've taken on a very Vakarian role in my mind. Hearing you go on, sans snark about the practical a logistical differences between military, governmental and civilian sector personnel applications is soothing.

I need to bust out AccAtt again.


Something strange has happened.
Was in bathroom. Staring at tiles that are similar to this one:
http://www.villadelatorre.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Marble-Tile-and-Slab-Carrara-White-Marble-BM043-.jpg
Instead of seeing vague (and disturbing) human faces, which is what I should see (and have seen) as per evolutionary psychology, I was seeing ponies.
Ponies everywhere. :smalleek:
One of them was an especially pretty design if I do say so myself. Nice job, brain!
Hell I even see a pony in that sample image I put up there! Not as pretty as the one in my bathroom though.

The good thing is that I now see pretty ponies instead of hideous vaguely-human faces in random patterns. The bad thing is, should I be worried?

Don't think about purple elephants.

Did you?

The traditional response is "of course you did, everyone does" except I don't. At worst, i see a pink hippo in the style of Elephants in Parade twirling in a purple room in front of a lavender recliner. At worst I think the word "Elephant" in black typeface (although sometimes Pig or Hippopotamus instead). This is nothing to worry about, it's just programmed response.

You now see ponies in tiles. That's fine. It's a mapping of something forefront in thought pro various media, and is a sign of a high-firing creativity center.



Alternately, the faeries are come to spy upon you and whisk you away to a fantasmagoric wonderland at the cost of self identity. Run. Run now. While you can.


We have standard-issue cowboy hats just for this condition. :smallwink:

Cowboy hats, unfortunately, are the ounce of prevention.
Black market eggbeater appendectomies are the pound of cure.



oh, i don't know about that.. Bleakbane does well enough w/o one
I should probably go hide somewhere now

Actu—


Doesn't a mobile spaceborne command center count?

Now, I don't know that Bleakbane commands a mobile spaceborne command center, but I just find it hard to imagine him without one.

Yeah, this.
Bleak Despair battle station? Totally counts.
No idea why he gets to be a princess and I don't, though :(

[Soras Teva Gee]

Yeah, this.
Bleak Despair battle station? Totally counts.
No idea why he gets to be a princess and I don't, though :(

Because he admitted he was long ago?

Are YOU a pretty pony princess SiuiS?

[Grif]

Progress on my mod! (Sort of)

Does these sound pony enough?
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_REQUEST1,”Hugs? Hugs are good.”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_REQUEST2,”Do you want to be friends?”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_REQUEST3,"We ponies are a friendly lot. Whatcha say to a partnership, partner?"
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_REQUEST4,”I’m sure we can do a lot more together. Friends?”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_ACCEPT1,”Friendship is Magic!”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_ACCEPT2,"Great! Let’s have a party!"
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_ACCEPT3,"Well, they say that many hooves make light work—you DO have hooves, right?"
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_ACCEPT4,"Welcome aboard, partner."
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_REJECT1,”But, you’re evil!”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_REJECT2,"We'd never be friends with a blank-flanked loser like you!"
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_REJECT3,”No means no.”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_REJECT4,”I’m sorry, but we cannot be friends at this time. I’m sure you understand.”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_LEAVE1,”You mean meanie pants! We’re not friends anymore!”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_LEAVE2,"Sorry, partner, but this ain’t workin’."
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_LEAVE3,”My apologies, but we must part ways from this point forward.”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_LEAVE4,"From now on, you’re on your own."
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_OTHER_LEAVE1,”So you don’t want to be friends anymore? Fine.”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_OTHER_LEAVE2,"The horror! The horror!"
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_OTHER_LEAVE3,”Was it something we said?”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_OTHER_LEAVE4,"*sniff* I'm not crying! Just go away you, you meanie!"
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_REQUEST1,"Ya keep off my lawn, y’hear"
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_REQUEST2,"Just keep your hooves to yourself, and we’ll do the same."
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_REQUEST3,"Oh no no no! I think we all need some breathing room here."
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_REQUEST4,"Hey, maybe we can friends some day. But for now, let’s stick to not shooting each other."
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_REJECT1,”Sorry. Can’t hear ya over the sounds of mah guns.”
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_REJECT2,”Well! I’m not going to let that fashion disaster go unpunished!”
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_REJECT3,”We don’t make promises that we can’t keep.”
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_REJECT4,”Ain’t you a cute one?”
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_BREAK1,"Ready or not, here we come."
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_BREAK2,”No more Mr. Nice Pony!”
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_BREAK3,”Awww yeah. Time to rock.”
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_BREAK4,"Surprise!"
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_OTHER_BREAK1,"You broke a PINKIE PROMISE!?"
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_OTHER_BREAK2,"You hurt my friends. Nopony gets away with that."
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_OTHER_BREAK3,”Let’s dance.”
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_OTHER_BREAK4,"You just shot at the wrong pony, pal!"
AIDIP_PONY_SURRENDER1,”Too many lives have been lost. We surrender.”
AIDIP_PONY_SURRENDER2,”Can’t we just be friends? We surrender.”
AIDIP_PONY_SURRENDER_TO1,”You always been a friend to us. We’ll join your cause.”
AIDIP_PONY_YOU_CAN_HAVE_SYSTEM1,"You can have %s."
AIDIP_PONY_YOU_CAN_HAVE_SYSTEM2,”But of course. Take %s.”
AIDIP_PONY_YOU_CANT_HAVE_SYSTEM1,”Sugarcube, we ain’t lettin’ go of %s.”
AIDIP_PONY_YOU_CANT_HAVE_SYSTEM2,”We may be friends, but we’re not that close a friend to give you %s.”
AIDIP_PONY_YOU_CANT_HAVE_SYSTEM_STATS1,"No uh!"
AIDIP_PONY_YOU_CANT_HAVE_SYSTEM_STATS2,”Why are you interested in %s anyway?”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_RALLY_AT1,”Oh yeah! We’ll be there.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_RALLY_AT2,”You called? Coordinates set for %s.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_RALLY_AT_DONT_LIKE_YOU1,”You just stay clear from us, y’hear?”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_RALLY_AT_DONT_LIKE_YOU2,”You're not the boss of us!”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_RALLY_AT_CANT_MAKE_IT1,"Sorry, but we appear to be experiencing a slight bit of difficulty reaching %s."
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_RALLY_AT_CANT_MAKE_IT2,”Oh um... I think we won’t be able to make it...”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_ATTACK_AT1,"We’ll be there!"
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_ATTACK_AT2,”You heard the lady! Set course for %s. It’s party time!”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_ATTACK_AT_DONT_LIKE_YOU1,”We got better things to do.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_ATTACK_AT_DONT_LIKE_YOU2,”Sheesh , like we’ll listen to the likes of you.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_ATTACK_AT_CANT_MAKE_IT1,”Oh my. I don’t think we can attack %s...”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_ATTACK_AT_CANT_MAKE_IT2,”As much as we love to, we won’t be able to help you at %s .”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_DEFEND_AT1,”Y’all just sit tight. We’ll be there to help ya at %s.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_DEFEND_AT2,"We’ll send all the help we can to %s."
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_DEFEND_AT_DONT_LIKE_YOU1,”’cuse me?”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_DEFEND_AT_DONT_LIKE_YOU2,”Accord ing to my calculations, it’s not in our best interest to help you. At all.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_DEFEND_AT_CANT_MAKE_IT1,”Sorry partner. Looks like the y’all gonna have to hold the fort yerself.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_DEFEND_AT_CANT_MAKE_IT2,"Can’t spare any ships to help out."
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_HARASSING_ME1,”Oh um... sorry.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_HARASSING_ME2,”Our most sincere apologies! We didn’t see you there.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_HARASSING_ME1,"Meanies don’t get cake."
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_HARASSING_ME2,"You’re joking, right?"
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_COLONIZING_AT1,”You’re right. Maybe I should stop partying for awhile.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_COLONIZING_AT2,"Alright. We’ll let %s be."
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_COLONIZING_AT1,”This is my world, and I’m going to colonise it!”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_COLONIZING_AT2,”%s belongs to us now.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_MINING_AT1,"Very well. We’ll stop mining %s."
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_MINING_AT2,"We hear ya. No more mining."
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_MINING_AT1,”What?”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_MINING_AT2,”We didn’t do nothing wrong here.”
AIDIP_PONY_DO_NOT_UNDERSTAND,”We cannot understand you.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_MONEY_REQUEST1,”You only needed to ask.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_MONEY_REQUEST2,”A friend in need's a friend indeed.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_MONEY_REQUEST1,”We sorta ran out of bits awhile back.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_MONEY_REQUEST2,”Sorry, but we aren’t exactly rich now.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_MONEY_REQUEST_DONT_LIKE_YOU1,”Wh y should we help a no-good, lazy bum like you?”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_MONEY_REQUEST_DONT_LIKE_YOU2,”Le t me think... no.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_RESEARCH_REQUEST1,”Of course! Let me just search my library...”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_RESEARCH_REQUEST2,”We’ll send our eggheads right over.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_RESEARCH_REQUEST1,"Sorry, we can’t spare anyone right now. "
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_RESEARCH_REQUEST2,”We’re kinda tied up at the moment. Maybe later?”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_RESEARCH_REQUEST_DONT_LIKE_YOU1 ,”Sorry, partner. There’s helping friends, and there’s just being plain dumb. Helping you is the latter.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_RESEARCH_REQUEST_DONT_LIKE_YOU2 ,”We don’t help meanies like you build bad weapons.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_SEVER_ALLIANCE_WITH1,"I never liked %s anyway."
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_SEVER_ALLIANCE_WITH2,”I guess we won’t be sharing cakes with %s anymore.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_SEVER_ALLIANCE_WITH1,”No uh. We don’t turn on a good friend like that.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_SEVER_ALLIANCE_WITH2,”We’re still good friends with %s.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_HARASSING_PLAYER1,"Fine. No more surprise parties for %s."
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_HARASSING_PLAYER2,”I don’t trust %s, but we’ll stop. For now.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_HARASSING_PLAYER1,”Mind your own business!”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_HARASSING_PLAYER2,”We’re not about to let meanie pants like %s go. ”
AIDIP_PONY_NOT_HARASSING_PLAYER1,”Aha. You must be joking. We’re not anywhere near %s.”
AIDIP_PONY_NOT_HARASSING_PLAYER2,”You sure you got the right number?”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_HARASSING_SYSTEM1,"Fine, we’ll stop."
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_HARASSING_SYSTEM2,”Alright y. Standing down in %s.
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_HARASSING_SYSTEM1,”You don’t us tell what to do, blank-flank.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_HARASSING_SYSTEM2,”Don’t you muddle the issue with fancy politics.”
AIDIP_PONY_NOT_HARASSING_SYSTEM1,”We have no idea what you’re talking about.”
AIDIP_PONY_NOT_HARASSING_SYSTEM2,"There isn’t any surprise party in %s... is there?"

AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_ACCEPT1,”We accept your treaty proposal.”
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_ACCEPT2,”Agreed... Hugs?”
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_REQUEST1,”Let’s give peace a chance, shall we?”
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_REQUEST2,”Look, we can do this the easy way, or the hard way. We prefer the easy way.”
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_ACCEPT1,"’bout time we stopped shooting each other."
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_ACCEPT2,"Huzzah! We’re glad we could come to a satisfactory conclusion."
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_REJECT1,"Sorry pal. The time to talk has long passed."
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_REJECT2,”We won't stop till you give us better reason too.”
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_BREAK1,”Ready or not, here we come!”
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_BREAK2,”We see what you're up to! This ceasefire is over!”
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_OTHER_BREAK1,”Fine! Let's get ready to rumble!”
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_OTHER_BREAK2,”It’s your funeral!”
AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_WAR1,”We ain’t seeing eye-to-eye here.”
AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_WAR2,”There isn’t much to talk about, is there?”
AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_CEASEFIRE1,"We’re tired of all this shooting."
AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_CEASEFIRE2,”Can we all just be friends?”
AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_NONAGGRO1,”You know, we could meet up for cider. Assuming you drink cider.”
AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_NONAGGRO2,”We like to think of you as a friend.”
AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_ALLIANCE1,”We should work together more closely.”
AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_ALLIANCE2,"Friendship is magic, they say. Hugs?"


AIPLAYER_HUMAN_1,Twilight Sparkle
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_2,Rainbow Dash
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_3,Rarity
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_4,Applejack
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_5,Pinkie Pie
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_6,Fluttershy
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_7,The Great and Powerful Trixie
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_8,Princess Celestia
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_9,Princess Luna
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_10,The Solar Empire
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_11,New Lunar Republic
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_12,Equestrian Alliance
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_13,Discord
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_14,Chrysalis
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_15,Earth
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_16,Unicornia
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_17,Pegasopolis


AIDESIGN_HUMAN_1,ESV Harmony
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_2,ESV Loyalty
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_3,ESV Kindness
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_4,ESV Honesty
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_5,ESV Magic
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_6,ESV Generosity
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_7,ESV Laughter
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_8,Cutie Mark Crusader
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_9,Crystal Empire
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_10,Manticore
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_11,ESV Canterlot
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_12,ESV Fillydelphia
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_13,ESV Trottingham
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_14,ESV Cloudsdale
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_15,ESV Ponyville
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_16,ESV Appleloosa
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_17,Pony Pokey
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_18,Everfree
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_19,Lunar Wrath
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_20,Celestial Fury
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_21,Double Buck
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_22,ESV Apple Pie
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_23,ESV Cider
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_24,ESV Cupcakes
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_25,ESV Jewels
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_26,ESV Rainbow Juice
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_27,ESV Punch
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_28,Hydra
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_29,Wonderbolt
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_30,Shadowbolt
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_31,Zebrica
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_32,Discorderly Conduct
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_33,Changeling’s Bane
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_34,ESV Dusk
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_35,ESV Dawn
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_36,ESV Solstice
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_37,ESV Tartaurus
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_38,Saddlebuck
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_39,Neighsayers
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_40,ESV Heartstrings
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_41,ESV Scratch
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_42,ESV Daring
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_43,ESV Octave
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_44,ESV Bon
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_45,ESV Starswirl
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_46,Smile
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_47,Party
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_48,Hearth’s Warming Eve
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_49,Winter Wrap Up

[Kd7sov]

I'm sure that the writers wrote with the intendtion that there was to be a time-gap (a week or a month or something) before Twilight and co were sent up, after Cadance and Shining being sent up; just because we saw the teaser of the empire's return the same episode doesn't mean that the events before and after the opening credits happened contiguously, after all.

I note that, whatever their original plan, in the final draft Celestia does send for Twilight at the end of the teaser. Whether that was the same message proposing the "test", I don't know; it's certainly possible that she simply wanted Twilight nearby in case any subsequent development warranted sending her along. But as it stands, we'd need to assume some pretty impressive logistical gymnastics to make the time gap very long.

[zimmerwald1915]

I note that, whatever their original plan, in the final draft Celestia does send for Twilight at the end of the teaser. Whether that was the same message proposing the "test", I don't know; it's certainly possible that she simply wanted Twilight nearby in case any subsequent development warranted sending her along. But as it stands, we'd need to assume some pretty impressive logistical gymnastics to make the time gap very long.
More specifically, the note said "You must come to Canterlot at once." It's less than a day's train ride from Ponyville to the Crystal Empire as we see in Just for Sidekicks, but Twilight doesn't take the train from Ponyville to Canterlot to the Crystal Empire. She takes the train from Ponyville to Canterlot to meet with Celestia and Luna, then back to Ponyville to pack and pick up her friends (who also have to pack), then to the Crystal Empire. Figure two or three days between Twilight receiving Celestia's note and the Mane Six meeting Shining Armor at the Crystal Empire depot. Two or three days' constant magic-use would explain Cadance's state when we first see her.

[Lix Lorn]

Just how is this possible? Was there a week's delay between the coming of Cadence and the coming of the Mane six? For that matter, how come Shining Armor and Cadence are in positions of power? Is it just that they realized that Alicorn trumps Earth pony? What happened?
"Why should we trust you?!"
"My wife is the only reason Slavey McCrystals isn't in here yet."
"Grapes, milord?"

[t209]

Something strange has happened.
Was in bathroom. Staring at tiles that are similar to this one:
http://www.villadelatorre.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Marble-Tile-and-Slab-Carrara-White-Marble-BM043-.jpg
Instead of seeing vague (and disturbing) human faces, which is what I should see (and have seen) as per evolutionary psychology, I was seeing ponies.
Ponies everywhere. :smalleek:
One of them was an especially pretty design if I do say so myself. Nice job, brain!
Hell I even see a pony in that sample image I put up there! Not as pretty as the one in my bathroom though.

The good thing is that I now see pretty ponies instead of hideous vaguely-human faces in random patterns. The bad thing is, should I be worried?
All I see is a unicorn horn, if you mean. It's the brain's playing our senses.

[Deadly]

Just read the 3rd issue of the comic
It really is quite a bit darker than the show, isn't it?

Poor wubbies ... or whatever they are :smalleek::smallfrown:

Love all the adventure, new scenery and monsters. It's awesome. The show could do more of that.


It's not about being right or wrong, it's about the fact that I don't jokingly insinuate folks who hated the finale must've had their pantaloons full of undead sea bass, and asking for the same level of respect in return.

That, and think I've just been noticing that between folks who liked the finale and folks who didn't, we hear lots more from the latter category than the former, despite my recollection that the general response was positive. Is complaining/critiquing really that much easier than praising, or am going crazy?

My comment wasn't meant to be all that serious, it was really a small poke at myself and my own tendency to be (seen as) very opinionated. Basically comparing myself to certain people who would disown (or worse) their own children because of stupid things (or really, anything). I think it's important to laugh at yourself sometimes.

And of course I'm certainly not going to disown my own niece. As an aside, my sister informed me that my niece did find the whole Princess Twilight thing very confusing and upsetting, wondering what would happen now, even if she thought the episode itself was awesome. This is a sentiment that mirrors my own pretty well. Although, to be fair some of her confusion is likely due to language.

Anyway ... I think you have to remember that we're all biased in what we see and hear, because of differences in what we look for or notice, as well as the places we frequent and the people we surround ourselves with. Those who liked the episode are very apparent to those who didn't, and those who didn't are apparently very visible to those who did.

This is what I fear is the cause of a lot of the tension we've had. People who liked the episode feel they're being surrounded by negativity, while those who feel they had legitimate concerns about it now feel that they're being drowned out and silenced by a huge and seemingly growing majority.

[SiuiS]

"Why should we trust you?!"
"My wife is the only reason Slavey McCrystals isn't in here yet."
"Grapes, milord?"

Nah, did you see how they "welcome" people in the Empire?

I think it's gonna be two weeks from now before any crystal pony looks up and goes "waitaminnit, we have a ruler?"


Because he admitted he was long ago?

Are YOU a pretty pony princess SiuiS?

Hmm.

*taps hooves together pensively* Define 'pony'?

[zimmerwald1915]

Nah, did you see how they "welcome" people in the Empire?

I think it's gonna be two weeks from now before any crystal pony looks up and goes "waitaminnit, we have a ruler?"
Too late. Cadance is already the "crystal princess" in their eyes. It's not that big a leap from "crystal princess" to "our princess".

[MCerberus]

Too late. Cadance is already the "crystal princess" in their eyes. It's not that big a leap from "crystal princess" to "our princess".

Or she's more like uncle Sombra than we realize.
dun dun DUNNNNN

[Soras Teva Gee]

Hmm.

*taps hooves together pensively* Define 'pony'?

Pony is a state of mind, it cannot be defined for you.

[Aotrs Commander]

Glah... Still weary.

Would you believe I've burned about three hours meandering through old pony threads? Panto take it out of you...


Doesn't a mobile spaceborne command center count?

Now, I don't know that Bleakbane commands a mobile spaceborne command center, but I just find it hard to imagine him without one.

Leaving aside the swipes of being equated to a pony princess *glares at otakuryoga* Bleak Despair station is a sector command station and while it is not itself mobile, the attached sector fleet is.


You've taken on a very Vakarian role in my mind. Hearing you go on, sans snark about the practical a logistical differences between military, governmental and civilian sector personnel applications is soothing.

I need to bust out AccAtt again.

How did you and your mate (and, come to that, you Lixie) get on with that, by the way? Did you ever get to the state you wanted to have a look at the main rules? I forget, it's been a while.

Also, Vakarian comparison = win.


Because he admitted he was long ago?

For the element of wiki, Soras, you sometimes don't do your research, as if you check way back in XLIIV, Anarion said that.

I said once that "pretty pony princess" would be a preferrable classification to "Real Man (sic)", but that is more a scathing comment on the latter than a preference for the former, since there are many things I would prefer to be classified as than the latter, including "elf", "paramecium", "very rare South Molassian leather-eating Wombat", "tube of toothpaste", "evil stepfather" and "czechoslovakian nose-hair trimmer".


No idea why he gets to be a princess and I don't, though :(

I could "crown" you with the butt-end of my Snake Launcher if you like, especially since, now I recall, it was your offhoof comment that got Anarion started...



Weird, I spend all day reading old pony Shanigans and then come back to the thread to find 'em starting up again...




"Why should we trust you?!"
"My wife is the only reason Slavey McCrystals isn't in here yet."
"Grapes, milord?"

Also that.

[PhantomFox]

Random musing. Is it just me, or does each verse of A True True Friend add another part of harmony for each pony that joins?

Also, AJ's verse bugs me. "From here to Canterlot" doesn't rhyme with ANYTHING in that verse!

[Dirtytabs]

Random musing. Is it just me, or does each verse of A True True Friend add another part of harmony for each pony that joins?

Also, AJ's verse bugs me. "From here to Canterlot" doesn't rhyme with ANYTHING in that verse!

There doesn't seem to be more voices from two singing to five singing.


The townspeople need you; they've been sad for a while
They march around, faces frown and never seem to smile
And if you feel like helping, we'd appreciate a lot
If you get up there and spread some cheer from here to Canterlot
It rhymes. :smallsmile:

[Forum Explorer]

Something strange has happened.
Was in bathroom. Staring at tiles that are similar to this one:
http://www.villadelatorre.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Marble-Tile-and-Slab-Carrara-White-Marble-BM043-.jpg
Instead of seeing vague (and disturbing) human faces, which is what I should see (and have seen) as per evolutionary psychology, I was seeing ponies.
Ponies everywhere. :smalleek:
One of them was an especially pretty design if I do say so myself. Nice job, brain!
Hell I even see a pony in that sample image I put up there! Not as pretty as the one in my bathroom though.

The good thing is that I now see pretty ponies instead of hideous vaguely-human faces in random patterns. The bad thing is, should I be worried?

*Conspiracy hat on*: Not at all, it just means you're ready to assist Celestia in taking over the world when she eventually breaks into this world.



Don't think about purple elephants.

Did you?

The traditional response is "of course you did, everyone does" except I don't. At worst, i see a pink hippo in the style of Elephants in Parade twirling in a purple room in front of a lavender recliner. At worst I think the word "Elephant" in black typeface (although sometimes Pig or Hippopotamus instead). This is nothing to worry about, it's just programmed response.

You now see ponies in tiles. That's fine. It's a mapping of something forefront in thought pro various media, and is a sign of a high-firing creativity center.
(

Oddly I thought of Twilight Sparkle first. Then I read the rest of your sentence and thought of a pink hippo.


Progress on my mod! (Sort of)

Does these sound pony enough?
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_REQUEST1,”Hugs? Hugs are good.”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_REQUEST2,”Do you want to be friends?”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_REQUEST3,"We ponies are a friendly lot. Whatcha say to a partnership, partner?"
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_REQUEST4,”I’m sure we can do a lot more together. Friends?”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_ACCEPT1,”Friendship is Magic!”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_ACCEPT2,"Great! Let’s have a party!"
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_ACCEPT3,"Well, they say that many hooves make light work—you DO have hooves, right?"
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_ACCEPT4,"Welcome aboard, partner."
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_REJECT1,”But, you’re evil!”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_REJECT2,"We'd never be friends with a blank-flanked loser like you!"
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_REJECT3,”No means no.”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_REJECT4,”I’m sorry, but we cannot be friends at this time. I’m sure you understand.”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_LEAVE1,”You mean meanie pants! We’re not friends anymore!”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_LEAVE2,"Sorry, partner, but this ain’t workin’."
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_LEAVE3,”My apologies, but we must part ways from this point forward.”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_LEAVE4,"From now on, you’re on your own."
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_OTHER_LEAVE1,”So you don’t want to be friends anymore? Fine.”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_OTHER_LEAVE2,"The horror! The horror!"
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_OTHER_LEAVE3,”Was it something we said?”
AIDIP_PONY_ALLIANCE_OTHER_LEAVE4,"*sniff* I'm not crying! Just go away you, you meanie!"
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_REQUEST1,"Ya keep off my lawn, y’hear"
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_REQUEST2,"Just keep your hooves to yourself, and we’ll do the same."
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_REQUEST3,"Oh no no no! I think we all need some breathing room here."
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_REQUEST4,"Hey, maybe we can friends some day. But for now, let’s stick to not shooting each other."
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_REJECT1,”Sorry. Can’t hear ya over the sounds of mah guns.”
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_REJECT2,”Well! I’m not going to let that fashion disaster go unpunished!”
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_REJECT3,”We don’t make promises that we can’t keep.”
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_REJECT4,”Ain’t you a cute one?”
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_BREAK1,"Ready or not, here we come." very generic
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_BREAK2,”No more Mr. Nice Pony!”
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_BREAK3,”Awww yeah. Time to rock.”
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_BREAK4,"Surprise!"
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_OTHER_BREAK1,"You broke a PINKIE PROMISE!?"
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_OTHER_BREAK2,"You hurt my friends. Nopony gets away with that."
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_OTHER_BREAK3,”Let’s dance.” very generic
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_OTHER_BREAK4,"You just shot at the wrong pony, pal!"
AIDIP_PONY_SURRENDER1,”Too many lives have been lost. We surrender.”
AIDIP_PONY_SURRENDER2,”Can’t we just be friends? We surrender.”
AIDIP_PONY_SURRENDER_TO1,”You always been a friend to us. We’ll join your cause.”
AIDIP_PONY_YOU_CAN_HAVE_SYSTEM1,"You can have %s."
AIDIP_PONY_YOU_CAN_HAVE_SYSTEM2,”But of course. Take %s.” Both are pretty generic but it's hard not to be.
AIDIP_PONY_YOU_CANT_HAVE_SYSTEM1,”Sugarcube, we ain’t lettin’ go of %s.”
AIDIP_PONY_YOU_CANT_HAVE_SYSTEM2,”We may be friends, but we’re not that close a friend to give you %s.”
AIDIP_PONY_YOU_CANT_HAVE_SYSTEM_STATS1,"No uh!"
AIDIP_PONY_YOU_CANT_HAVE_SYSTEM_STATS2,”Why are you interested in %s anyway?”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_RALLY_AT1,”Oh yeah! We’ll be there.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_RALLY_AT2,”You called? Coordinates set for %s.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_RALLY_AT_DONT_LIKE_YOU1,”You just stay clear from us, y’hear?”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_RALLY_AT_DONT_LIKE_YOU2,”You're not the boss of us!”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_RALLY_AT_CANT_MAKE_IT1,"Sorry, but we appear to be experiencing a slight bit of difficulty reaching %s."
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_RALLY_AT_CANT_MAKE_IT2,”Oh um... I think we won’t be able to make it...”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_ATTACK_AT1,"We’ll be there!"
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_ATTACK_AT2,”You heard the lady! Set course for %s. It’s party time!”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_ATTACK_AT_DONT_LIKE_YOU1,”We got better things to do.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_ATTACK_AT_DONT_LIKE_YOU2,”Sheesh , like we’ll listen to the likes of you.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_ATTACK_AT_CANT_MAKE_IT1,”Oh my. I don’t think we can attack %s...”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_ATTACK_AT_CANT_MAKE_IT2,”As much as we love to, we won’t be able to help you at %s .”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_DEFEND_AT1,”Y’all just sit tight. We’ll be there to help ya at %s.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_DEFEND_AT2,"We’ll send all the help we can to %s."
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_DEFEND_AT_DONT_LIKE_YOU1,”’cuse me?”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_DEFEND_AT_DONT_LIKE_YOU2,”Accord ing to my calculations, it’s not in our best interest to help you. At all.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_DEFEND_AT_CANT_MAKE_IT1,”Sorry partner. Looks like the y’all gonna have to hold the fort yerself.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_DEFEND_AT_CANT_MAKE_IT2,"Can’t spare any ships to help out."
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_HARASSING_ME1,”Oh um... sorry.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_HARASSING_ME2,”Our most sincere apologies! We didn’t see you there.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_HARASSING_ME1,"Meanies don’t get cake."
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_HARASSING_ME2,"You’re joking, right?"
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_COLONIZING_AT1,”You’re right. Maybe I should stop partying for awhile.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_COLONIZING_AT2,"Alright. We’ll let %s be."
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_COLONIZING_AT1,”This is my world, and I’m going to colonise it!”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_COLONIZING_AT2,”%s belongs to us now.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_MINING_AT1,"Very well. We’ll stop mining %s."
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_MINING_AT2,"We hear ya. No more mining."
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_MINING_AT1,”What?”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_MINING_AT2,”We didn’t do nothing wrong here.”
AIDIP_PONY_DO_NOT_UNDERSTAND,”We cannot understand you.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_MONEY_REQUEST1,”You only needed to ask.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_MONEY_REQUEST2,”A friend in need's a friend indeed.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_MONEY_REQUEST1,”We sorta ran out of bits awhile back.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_MONEY_REQUEST2,”Sorry, but we aren’t exactly rich now.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_MONEY_REQUEST_DONT_LIKE_YOU1,”Wh y should we help a no-good, lazy bum like you?”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_MONEY_REQUEST_DONT_LIKE_YOU2,”Le t me think... no.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_RESEARCH_REQUEST1,”Of course! Let me just search my library...”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_RESEARCH_REQUEST2,”We’ll send our eggheads right over.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_RESEARCH_REQUEST1,"Sorry, we can’t spare anyone right now. "
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_RESEARCH_REQUEST2,”We’re kinda tied up at the moment. Maybe later?”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_RESEARCH_REQUEST_DONT_LIKE_YOU1 ,”Sorry, partner. There’s helping friends, and there’s just being plain dumb. Helping you is the latter.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_RESEARCH_REQUEST_DONT_LIKE_YOU2 ,”We don’t help meanies like you build bad weapons.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_SEVER_ALLIANCE_WITH1,"I never liked %s anyway."
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_SEVER_ALLIANCE_WITH2,”I guess we won’t be sharing cakes with %s anymore.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_SEVER_ALLIANCE_WITH1,”No uh. We don’t turn on a good friend like that.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_SEVER_ALLIANCE_WITH2,”We’re still good friends with %s.”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_HARASSING_PLAYER1,"Fine. No more surprise parties for %s."
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_HARASSING_PLAYER2,”I don’t trust %s, but we’ll stop. For now.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_HARASSING_PLAYER1,”Mind your own business!”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_HARASSING_PLAYER2,”We’re not about to let meanie pants like %s go. ”
AIDIP_PONY_NOT_HARASSING_PLAYER1,”Aha. You must be joking. We’re not anywhere near %s.”
AIDIP_PONY_NOT_HARASSING_PLAYER2,”You sure you got the right number?”
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_HARASSING_SYSTEM1,"Fine, we’ll stop."
AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_STOP_HARASSING_SYSTEM2,”Alright y. Standing down in %s.
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_HARASSING_SYSTEM1,”You don’t us tell what to do, blank-flank.”
AIDIP_PONY_REJECT_STOP_HARASSING_SYSTEM2,”Don’t you muddle the issue with fancy politics.”
AIDIP_PONY_NOT_HARASSING_SYSTEM1,”We have no idea what you’re talking about.”
AIDIP_PONY_NOT_HARASSING_SYSTEM2,"There isn’t any surprise party in %s... is there?"

AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_ACCEPT1,”We accept your treaty proposal.”
AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_ACCEPT2,”Agreed... Hugs?”
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_REQUEST1,”Let’s give peace a chance, shall we?”
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_REQUEST2,”Look, we can do this the easy way, or the hard way. We prefer the easy way.”
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_ACCEPT1,"’bout time we stopped shooting each other."
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_ACCEPT2,"Huzzah! We’re glad we could come to a satisfactory conclusion."
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_REJECT1,"Sorry pal. The time to talk has long passed."
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_REJECT2,”We won't stop till you give us better reason too.”
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_BREAK1,”Ready or not, here we come!”
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_BREAK2,”We see what you're up to! This ceasefire is over!”
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_OTHER_BREAK1,”Fine! Let's get ready to rumble!”
AIDIP_PONY_CEASEFIRE_OTHER_BREAK2,”It’s your funeral!”
AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_WAR1,”We ain’t seeing eye-to-eye here.”
AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_WAR2,”There isn’t much to talk about, is there?”
AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_CEASEFIRE1,"We’re tired of all this shooting."
AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_CEASEFIRE2,”Can we all just be friends?”
AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_NONAGGRO1,”You know, we could meet up for cider. Assuming you drink cider.”
AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_NONAGGRO2,”We like to think of you as a friend.”
AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_ALLIANCE1,”We should work together more closely.”
AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_ALLIANCE2,"Friendship is magic, they say. Hugs?"


AIPLAYER_HUMAN_1,Twilight Sparkle
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_2,Rainbow Dash
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_3,Rarity
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_4,Applejack
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_5,Pinkie Pie
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_6,Fluttershy
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_7,The Great and Powerful Trixie
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_8,Princess Celestia
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_9,Princess Luna
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_10,The Solar Empire
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_11,New Lunar Republic
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_12,Equestrian Alliance
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_13,Discord
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_14,Chrysalis
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_15,Earth
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_16,Unicornia
AIPLAYER_HUMAN_17,Pegasopolis


AIDESIGN_HUMAN_1,ESV Harmony
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_2,ESV Loyalty
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_3,ESV Kindness
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_4,ESV Honesty
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_5,ESV Magic
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_6,ESV Generosity
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_7,ESV Laughter
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_8,Cutie Mark Crusader
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_9,Crystal Empire
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_10,Manticore
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_11,ESV Canterlot
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_12,ESV Fillydelphia
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_13,ESV Trottingham
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_14,ESV Cloudsdale
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_15,ESV Ponyville
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_16,ESV Appleloosa
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_17,Pony Pokey
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_18,Everfree
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_19,Lunar Wrath
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_20,Celestial Fury
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_21,Double Buck
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_22,ESV Apple Pie
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_23,ESV Cider
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_24,ESV Cupcakes
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_25,ESV Jewels
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_26,ESV Rainbow Juice
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_27,ESV Punch
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_28,Hydra
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_29,Wonderbolt
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_30,Shadowbolt
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_31,Zebrica
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_32,Discorderly Conduct
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_33,Changeling’s Bane
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_34,ESV Dusk
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_35,ESV Dawn
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_36,ESV Solstice
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_37,ESV Tartaurus
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_38,Saddlebuck
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_39,Neighsayers
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_40,ESV Heartstrings
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_41,ESV Scratch
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_42,ESV Daring
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_43,ESV Octave
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_44,ESV Bon
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_45,ESV Starswirl
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_46,Smile
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_47,Party
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_48,Hearth’s Warming Eve
AIDESIGN_HUMAN_49,Winter Wrap Up

Comments are in the quote bolded

Here's some more ideas

AIDIP_PONY_NONAGGRO_BREAK2, "Time to pull out the non-Party Cannons!"

AIDIP_PONY_YOU_CAN_HAVE_SYSTEM2, "Oh, um, I suppose if you really want %s then I can just go someplace else."

AIDIP_PONY_CONFIRM_DEFEND_AT2, "Of course! We'd never leave our friends hanging."

AIDIP_PONY_DO_NOT_UNDERSTAND, "What? Wait, What?!"

AIDIP_PONY_DISPOSITION_WAR2, "It's time to take out the adorable alien trash."

[Anarion]

Huh, there were more installments in that "what they do when their friends weren't watching" comic series:

Rarity
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/040/5/c/when_no_one_is_watching__rarity__by_taco_slayer-d5ufpvs.jpg

Fluttershy
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/042/6/8/when_no_one_is_watching_by_taco_slayer-d5tnus4.jpg
These are awesome.


Boojah. I just got a like from Kkat for Study In Rainbows (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36445/a-study-in-rainbows#comment/2166350). I feel inordinately proud.

(Also I have learned from my subsequent reread that nothing ages quite as poorly as reference humour. Ick)

Also awesome, congrats. Now you also get to see why everything you write should be a timeless classic instead of using the low-hanging pop culture joke fruit.



In the first episode of season 13, Celestia is informed that the Crystal empire has returned. Shortly thereafter, Twilight and company travel to the Crystal empire... to find that Cadence and Shining Armor are already there.

Just how is this possible? Was there a week's delay between the coming of Cadence and the coming of the Mane six? For that matter, how come Shining Armor and Cadence are in positions of power? Is it just that they realized that Alicorn trumps Earth pony? What happened?

One alternate thought I had was that maybe teleportation was possible for Shining+Cadance and not Twilight. If Shining or Cadance had been to the area before and knew where they were going, they could have teleported directly, whereas the strain on Twilight of teleporting 6 ponies+Spike to an unknown and magically dangerous area might not have been possible.



Yeah. Band-Aid and bandage are so synonymous now that the brand can't maintain sole use of the name. I believe Xerox is another brand that turned generic word.


They're in a weird fugue state actually. Xerox got totally screwed. Coke should be screwed, but they continue to insist in their contracts that every restaurant instruct its waiters that if someone orders a coke and they do not have coke, they must ask "would Pepsi [or insert other softdrink] be okay?" Band-Aid lost it, but that's why they use "Band-Aid® Brand Adhesive Strips" because they can trademark that.

Google is also on the verge of losing theirs, by the way. There's been no case yet, but when your name becomes a verb, it's a really bad sign for keeping trademark protection.



Yeah, this.
Bleak Despair battle station? Totally counts.
No idea why he gets to be a princess and I don't, though :(

You get to be a princess. See my post from a couple pages back. We're all princesses now, Bleakbane is just a double princess.



For the element of wiki, Soras, you sometimes don't do your research, as if you check way back in XLIIV, Anarion said that.


What's really amazing is that this is probably my most enduring contribution to these forums.



I could "crown" you with the butt-end of my Snake Launcher if you like, especially since, now I recall, it was your offhoof comment that got Anarion started...


I have a morbid desire to watch this play out.


Random musing. Is it just me, or does each verse of A True True Friend add another part of harmony for each pony that joins?

Also, AJ's verse bugs me. "From here to Canterlot" doesn't rhyme with ANYTHING in that verse!

It does, that's one of the coolest parts. It's a bit hard to distinguish all the voices in the chorus, but it starts with Twilight solo and Fluttershy joining during the repeat of the "True True Friend" chorus. Then they add Rainbow Dash the next time around, and Rarity (although by that point it's hard to distinguish them all, it's simply fuller and more rich). Applejack's has a slight change in the chorus, and then Pinkie's includes not only the 6, but also the full background choir along with drums and such.

[BlasTech]

Well, at least this explains how Twilight mastered flying so quickly!

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/042/f/e/twilight_s_ascension__flight_by_hatbulbproductions-d5ukwgw.png

Incidentally, I sucked at this game, I guess that makes me the princess of crash landings :smalltongue:

[Spamotron]

Just a funny thought: Princess Twilight has a Castle Playset and we know that Hasbro likes the playsets to be included in the show whenever reasonably possible. So its likely to be Twilight's new home in show.

So:

Are a bunch of new background ponies going to be created to be the castle staff?

Are a bunch of existing background ponies going to get new jobs as castle staff?

Is it going to be a depressingly empty castle with Twilight and Spike as the only residents?

I'm betting on possibility 3 only because it would suck for Spike. He's already cleaning constantly in the library with a huge castle to take care of he's going to have no free time whatsoever. And as we all know Spike is the show's buttmonkey.

[zimmerwald1915]

Just a funny thought: Princess Twilight has a Castle Playset and we know that Hasbro likes the playsets to be included in the show whenever reasonably possible. So its likely to be Twilight's new home in show.
...And so Deadly's idea gains currency. He's going to be insufferable :smallwink:

Actually, would it be too much trouble to ask for descriptions and side-by-side pictures of all the extant castle playsets and their corresponding locations in the show? We may be able to deduce something about Season 4 from such a comparison. I'd do it myself, but as you can no doubt tell, I'm posting from a phone at the moment. What's more, I will be away from my computer til 22:30 GMT-5.

[Jahkaivah]

Are a bunch of new background ponies going to be created to be the castle staff?

Are a bunch of existing background ponies going to get new jobs as castle staff?

Is it going to be a depressingly empty castle with Twilight and Spike as the only residents?

Well, there I am, Twilight the princess, princess of all the land! Who'd have thought that?

"But how did it come to this?", I hear ya say. "And who are those strange ponies that surround my throne?", I hear you also say. Well, it's a long story, come closer, and I'll tell you.

It all started … yesterday. And what a day that was, it's what I call … A Bad Mane Day.

[Lord Raziere]

They're in a weird fugue state actually. Xerox got totally screwed. Coke should be screwed, but they continue to insist in their contracts that every restaurant instruct its waiters that if someone orders a coke and they do not have coke, they must ask "would Pepsi [or insert other softdrink] be okay?" Band-Aid lost it, but that's why they use "Band-Aid® Brand Adhesive Strips" because they can trademark that.

Google is also on the verge of losing theirs, by the way. There's been no case yet, but when your name becomes a verb, it's a really bad sign for keeping trademark protection.



wow. I'd never thought that such things would start happening to corporations because they became TOO ubiquitous and commonplace.

and yeah, how are they going to pull off Season 4? this mlp team has done amazing things already, and hopefully they will continue to do so...

[Soras Teva Gee]

For the element of wiki, Soras, you sometimes don't do your research, as if you check way back in XLIIV, Anarion said that.

I said once that "pretty pony princess" would be a preferrable classification to "Real Man (sic)", but that is more a scathing comment on the latter than a preference for the former, since there are many things I would prefer to be classified as than the latter, including "elf", "paramecium", "very rare South Molassian leather-eating Wombat", "tube of toothpaste", "evil stepfather" and "czechoslovakian nose-hair trimmer".

And just like back then.... I'm not hearing a denial in all of that.

Look everypony Lich admitted he's a pretty pony princess again!


They're in a weird fugue state actually. Xerox got totally screwed. Coke should be screwed, but they continue to insist in their contracts that every restaurant instruct its waiters that if someone orders a coke and they do not have coke, they must ask "would Pepsi [or insert other softdrink] be okay?" Band-Aid lost it, but that's why they use "Band-Aid® Brand Adhesive Strips" because they can trademark that.

Google is also on the verge of losing theirs, by the way. There's been no case yet, but when your name becomes a verb, it's a really bad sign for keeping trademark protection.


I should document the next time I here someone order a "Pepsi coke" because I have totally heard that.


Just a funny thought: Princess Twilight has a Castle Playset and we know that Hasbro likes the playsets to be included in the show whenever reasonably possible. So its likely to be Twilight's new home in show.

Kinda like how Cadance being at the head of a major toy line push clearly foreshadowed her becoming the seventh member of the Mane Six. And how Celestia and Luna got recolored. Oh Wait...

[MCerberus]

Although one can make the claim that Hasbro was playing the long-game with Pinklestia (Foreshadowing Cadence, not shipping). They are clever trolls.

[Theoboldi]

So guys. Since I have no cartoons left to watch, and I need something to fill the empty void that is my life, I decided to go read up on some fanfiction. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking for something lighthearted, without any too dark content. I already checked out Thanquol's A Study in Rainbow, which I really liked, but I'm hoping to find more.


You get to be a princess. See my post from a couple pages back. We're all princesses now, Bleakbane is just a double princess.

Huh. Does that mean I get to wear a tiara big crown thingy?

[Beacon of Chaos]

Trailer for Double Rainbow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OPr7_lcAwZA), the fan-made episode. I'm excited about this!

Also linking this (http://rublegun.deviantart.com/art/A-long-way-home-355822171) for the beautiful music.

And a comic too. (wide images)
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/041/5/1/tales_from_ponyville__chapter_2__page_1_by_karzahn ii-d5u5oeh.png
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/041/1/3/tales_from_ponyville__chapter_2__page_2_by_karzahn ii-d5uimrv.png
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/054/b/f/tales_from_ponyville__chapter_2__page_3_by_karzahn ii-d5vzpat.png

[t209]

Alicorn Twilight?
Will it be Catch 22 problem?

[SiuiS]

Pony is a state of mind, it cannot be defined for you.

Huzzah!


Glah... Still weary.

Would you believe I've burned about three hours meandering through old pony threads? Panto take it out of you...

Yeah... I can't Do that though, I always wanna quote stuff.



How did you and your mate (and, come to that, you Lixie) get on with that, by the way? Did you ever get to the state you wanted to have a look at the main rules? I forget, it's been a while.

I've never had a time to really get into it that didn't involve migraine or fever, and don't want to cross the associations. So most of my actual understanding comes from my friend talking about how it works with his expectations. Unfortunately, we are now at that age were people start complaining about not having time for the hobby anymore, so I haven't played a game in the flesh in about a year.



I said once that "pretty pony princess" would be a preferrable classification to "Real Man (sic)", but that is more a scathing comment on the latter than a preference for the former, since there are many things I would prefer to be classified as than the latter, including "elf", "paramecium", "very rare South Molassian leather-eating Wombat", "tube of toothpaste", "evil stepfather" and "czechoslovakian nose-hair trimmer".


Bleakbane is best toothpaste!



I could "crown" you with the butt-end of my Snake Launcher if you like, especially since, now I recall, it was your offhoof comment that got Anarion started...

Sounds legit!



Also awesome, congrats. Now you also get to see why everything you write should be a timeless classic instead of using the low-hanging pop culture joke fruit.

Good point!



You get to be a princess. See my post from a couple pages back. We're all princesses now, Bleakbane is just a double princess.

*image pending*


Well, there I am, Twilight the princess, princess of all the land! Who'd have thought that?

"But how did it come to this?", I hear ya say. "And who are those strange ponies that surround my throne?", I hear you also say. Well, it's a long story, come closer, and I'll tell you.

It all started … yesterday. And what a day that was, it's what I call … A Bad Mane Day.

D=
Do want

[OracleofWuffing]

And a comic too. (wide images)
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/041/5/1/tales_from_ponyville__chapter_2__page_1_by_karzahn ii-d5u5oeh.png
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/041/1/3/tales_from_ponyville__chapter_2__page_2_by_karzahn ii-d5uimrv.png
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/054/b/f/tales_from_ponyville__chapter_2__page_3_by_karzahn ii-d5vzpat.png
And then Princess Celestia turned to Luna, and said, "Isn't it lovely? Twilight sent me a dozen roses! What a wonderful student!"

[Grif]

So guys. Since I have no cartoons left to watch, and I need something to fill the empty void that is my life, I decided to go read up on some fanfiction. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking for something lighthearted, without any too dark content. I already checked out Thanquol's A Study in Rainbow, which I really liked, but I'm hoping to find more.



Huh. Does that mean I get to wear a tiara big crown thingy?

Three comes to mind.
Sunny Skies All Day Long (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/20685/sunny-skies-all-day-long)

Yours Truly (www.fimfiction.net/story/22831/yours-truly)

Naked Singularity (www.fimfiction.net/story/13565/naked-singularity)

@Forum Explorer

Thanks!

[Silverraptor]

And then Princess Celestia turned to Luna, and said, "Isn't it lovely? Twilight sent me a dozen roses! What a wonderful student!"

Was thinking the same thing.:smalltongue:

[Tiki Snakes]

Yeah, this.
Bleak Despair battle station? Totally counts.
No idea why he gets to be a princess and I don't, though :(

You saw the OP, my dear mage.
Joyreaper, fire up the Chronomangler, retrieve the Equinox device. Then bring me a tequila sunrise in a tall glass with a side order of cherry flavour painkillers.

Are we going to regret this, Ma'am? On second thoughts, forget I asked.

Hmm.

*taps hooves together pensively* Define 'pony'?

If you...insist!
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/055/5/f/transformation_scrap_1_2_by_mister_cope-d5w4iee.pnghttp://i50.tinypic.com/30vdmco.pnghttp://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/055/6/f/transformation_scrap_2_2_by_mister_cope-d5w4ijy.png
Your true self revealed! You are now a pretty pony princess, and as of ten seconds ago, always have been.
Now if you'll excuse me, I've a splitting temporal headache coming on.

Uh, yeah. Anyway, so the new wacom tab isn't entirely terrible. Very weird to use, but not utterly terrible.

[Forderz]

So guys. Since I have no cartoons left to watch, and I need something to fill the empty void that is my life, I decided to go read up on some fanfiction. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking for something lighthearted, without any too dark content. I already checked out Thanquol's A Study in Rainbow, which I really liked, but I'm hoping to find more.


Well, there's my epic-in-the-making dissertation on the Arab Spring through the medium of ponies, but I don't think you're looking for something quite so involved, soooo:

Some fantastic one-shots I can't rate highly enough:

In Celestia We Trust, All Others Pay Cash (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/45828/in-celestia-we-trust-all-others-pay-cash)

F-F-F-Fabulous (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/38687/fffabulous)

Her Weight in Affection (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/30760/her-weight-in-affection)

Sparkle's Law (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/3270/sparkles-law)

I Ain't got no Ack-cent! (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/749/ah-aint-got-no-ackcent)

For an amazing display of surrealistic narration, look no further than The Mailmare (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/12731/the-mailmare)

Both Why Am I Pinkie Pie (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/34702/why-am-i-pinkie-pie) and Oh to be Old Again (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/35763/oh-to-be-old-again) deal with a human turned into a pony, and do so wonderfully. In the same vein, Through The Eyes Of Another Pony (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/19641/through-the-eyes-of-another-pony) was originally a send-up of the genre, but ends up just being a hilarious beacon of comedy in a sea of ****.

A Slice of Life (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/9135/a-slice-of-life) and School Daz (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/2432/school-daze)e are both fantastic in their own way, though I'm rather partial towards School Daze's 80's rock montage sensibilities.

If you happen to be a fan of Jim Butcher, then My Little Denarians (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/9904/my-little-denarians) is certainly worth checking out. It is rather long through (223,000 words).

And then there is The Best Night Ever (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/18087/the-best-night-ever) It's better than groundhog's day. By a longshot. And that comes from a person who thinks groundhog's day is ****ing fantastic.

The ever-wonderful Ponydora Prancypants said it best, though:
Perhaps my favorite thing about this story is that the narration doesn't take itself too seriously. One of the hardest things to do as a writer is to remember to have fun - this story, better than ANY other MLP fanfiction, walks the line between telling an amazing story and having an absolute blast at poking fun at itself, the genre, the quirks of the tv show, and the fandom. I sincerely believe that this story is in a class by itself - no other pony fic has ever made me smile, laugh, empathize, roll my eyes, and eventually feel good about life like The Best Night Ever. It's not even that the author used one of the great American film classics as a template - he both translated "Groundhog's Day" and transcended it in writing this. That's why this is the Best Fic Ever!

[DigoDragon]

Not at all! The power of Pinkie's portal can reverse any death!

Hmmm, she still has two counts left of lives to resurrect doesn't she? I suppose that could be their GOoJF card to use one on Cadance...



Does these sound pony enough?

Sounds pretty pony to me. [Thumb Up]



Google is also on the verge of losing theirs, by the way. There's been no case yet, but when your name becomes a verb, it's a really bad sign for keeping trademark protection.

Quite true. I verb it all the time.



Well, at least this explains how Twilight mastered flying so quickly!

Quickly? It took me years to beat that game because the desire to crash things for fun was too great. XD



I decided to go read up on some fanfiction. Does anyone have any recommendations?

It's not finished yet, but Outlaw Mares (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/82063/outlaw-mares-1-a-hoof-full-of-trixie) is a fun adventure featuring Trixie in a western setting.

[Aotrs Commander]

*eyeglow blink*

*eyeglow blink*

...

...

Oookaaaaay, Overlord II.

Three mistresses, which unlike the first game you do not have a binary choice between one or other, but get all three automatically, one of them a ghost or something and "becoming "special friends" scene (no, really, that's how they refer to it in the game...) for each and then on top a "special friends" scene involving all three simultaneously.

Completely unexplicit scenes, by the way, played for... laughs?, i.e. ahahaha, the tower is shaking, and the minions are trying to peek through the curtains, oh the hilarity?

That... was quite possibly the most... unusual... method of gaining an extra health bar I think I've ever encountered...




I've never had a time to really get into it that didn't involve migraine or fever, and don't want to cross the associations. So most of my actual understanding comes from my friend talking about how it works with his expectations. Unfortunately, we are now at that age were people start complaining about not having time for the hobby anymore, so I haven't played a game in the flesh in about a year.

Well, anytime you or he want me to send the main rules out, just yell.


Bleakbane is best toothpaste!

*sigh*


Sounds legit!

You are aware in this context "crown" meaning "to hit over the head with," right? Because I thought the implication was pretty clear...




And just like back then.... I'm not hearing a denial in all of that.


You want me to spell it out? Fine.

I am not a pony princess, I have never been a pony princess and I never will be a pony princess, nor any combination of pony or princess (or prince or other royalty or quadruped mammal, avian, dragon, amphibian or reptile); no matter how many times you say it, it won't become any more true. I am a Lich, formerly of physical human varity (but never mentally), of mithril alloy physical structure.




On the fanfic front, I also recommend Ditzy Doo and the Blustery Day (if you are a fan of Winnie the Pooh (the books, obviously, not what Disney did to him) and Sweet Apple Capers (I'd dig some links out, but it's kinda late).




And a comic too. (wide images)
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/041/5/1/tales_from_ponyville__chapter_2__page_1_by_karzahn ii-d5u5oeh.png
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/041/1/3/tales_from_ponyville__chapter_2__page_2_by_karzahn ii-d5uimrv.png
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/054/b/f/tales_from_ponyville__chapter_2__page_3_by_karzahn ii-d5vzpat.png

Mandatory Huzzah! for Spike/Rarity.

[DigoDragon]

Links to some funny comics I found today:

Mutter (http://csimadmax.deviantart.com/art/mutter-356102223)
(Tags: Chrysalis, Cadance, babies!)

The Royal Family (http://thewormouroboros.deviantart.com/art/The-Royal-Family-355938079)
(Tags: Alicorns, brothers, Discord, shenanigans)

Do Ponies Use Toilets? (http://pony-berserker.deviantart.com/art/Do-Ponies-Use-Toilets-355964953)
(Tags: Potty humor)

[Kd7sov]

Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking for something lighthearted, without any too dark content. I already checked out Thanquol's A Study in Rainbow, which I really liked, but I'm hoping to find more.

Everything by Skywriter (http://www.fimfiction.net/index.php?view=category&user=9179). I'd suggest starting with Infernal Machines (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/11496/infernal-machines), followed by Contraptionology! (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/14777/Contraptionology!) (to which it is the semi-standalone prologue), but any of them should be a good, fun read.

At least, I think so. Now that I look at the list, I don't think I've read any of the stuff he's published without the "comedy" tag. Possibly I should rectify that.

[Alabenson]

So guys. Since I have no cartoons left to watch, and I need something to fill the empty void that is my life, I decided to go read up on some fanfiction. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking for something lighthearted, without any too dark content. I already checked out Thanquol's A Study in Rainbow, which I really liked, but I'm hoping to find more.

I'd recommend Sweet Apple Capers (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/66895/sweet-apple-capers) myself.

[Pendulous]

Trailer for Double Rainbow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OPr7_lcAwZA), the fan-made episode. I'm excited about this!

Also linking this (http://rublegun.deviantart.com/art/A-long-way-home-355822171) for the beautiful music.



Bout friggin time. They must work for Blizzard.

"Release date Fall 2012! Um, we meant....maybe, or something. Wait, no, we never said it was set in stone. Even though we announced it and made a commercial. We just want to make sure it was perfect, except Diablo 3. We delayed it further and further, only to release a pile of pony feces, because we....um...what were we talking about again?"

Also, was Scootaloo flying?

[Maxtronaut]

Well, I leave for a skiing trip and I come back to a new Ponythread. Has that happened to anyone else before? :smallconfused:

Oh, and I now officially claim the title of "Only brony on Earth who hasn't seen the S3 finale" until tomorrow. :smallbiggrin:

[BlasTech]

Well, I leave for a skiing trip and I come back to a new Ponythread. Has that happened to anyone else before? :smallconfused:

Oh, and I now officially claim the title of "Only brony on Earth who hasn't seen the S3 finale" until tomorrow. :smallbiggrin:

Hope you enjoy it, you didn't miss much ^^

[Eakin]

it's unsurprising that shining would already be there. he's a military trained leader with political power to boot. he is basically the pony to send when stuff starts happening.
cadence is royalty and his wife besides, with magic that apparently creates or in some way interacts with love and peace.

They really are quite a power couple, aren't they? I'd actually love to read a story where the Princesses machinations backfire, and Luna sends SA/C to fix a problem and Celestia sends the Mane 6. The actual problem is fairly minor but their respective efforts to solve it collide and create a total **** up.

Then the actual problem is solved by Derpy.


Currently up to Season 2 Eps 9.
I think Becoming Popular is now my fav number from this show so far. Wow.
http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Becoming_Popular_%28The_Pony_Everypony_Should_Know %29

With Find a Pet, "Becoming Popular" was nominated for "Outstanding Original Song - Children's and Animation" in the 39th Daytime Emmy Awards.[4]

It deserves it.
(The Find A Pet song is also good, but too situational as it's a narrative ballad common in plays...)

Wait until you get to Smile Smile Smile!


So guys. Since I have no cartoons left to watch, and I need something to fill the empty void that is my life, I decided to go read up on some fanfiction. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking for something lighthearted, without any too dark content. I already checked out Thanquol's A Study in Rainbow, which I really liked, but I'm hoping to find more.



Huh. Does that mean I get to wear a tiara big crown thingy?

I'm filling my TV itch with House of Cards, but that's not very pony. At all. It's like The West Wing's evil twin.

Lots of good suggestions already, so I'll just plug my own stuff (http://www.fimfiction.net/index.php?view=category&user=15048). I'd start with "Dark Knight of Canterlot" and "Late Afternoon of the Zombie Gerbil Horde" for lighthearted comedy.

[PhantomFox]

There doesn't seem to be more voices from two singing to five singing.


It rhymes. :smallsmile:

I could have sworn it was "If you feel like helping, we'd appreciate a laugh"

[One Tin Soldier]

So guys. Since I have no cartoons left to watch, and I need something to fill the empty void that is my life, I decided to go read up on some fanfiction. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking for something lighthearted, without any too dark content. I already checked out Thanquol's A Study in Rainbow, which I really liked, but I'm hoping to find more.

Hmm. A whole list appeared in my head, before I re-read your post and saw that you wanted stuff without terribly dark content. :smalltongue: I'll check through my Favorites and see what comes up.

Flash Fog (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/51991/flash-fog) Fluttershy deals with bureaucracy. It is amusing.

Earth & Sky (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/34622/earth--sky) Set about 10-15 years in the future, deals with Twilight, Applebloom, and Rarity making artificial wings. On the longer side, but good.

Mort Takes a Holiday (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/30613/mort-takes-a-holiday) The incarnation of Death takes a vacation in Ponyville. Isn't half as dark as you might think it is, but also takes itself a tad more seriously than you might expect.

Treasure in the West (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/20108/treasure-in-the-west) Treasure hunting in the Equestrian West with Braeburn and Daring Do. What else is there to say?

There are several others that I could recommend if you're ok with things that aren't exactly light reading.


Trailer for Double Rainbow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OPr7_lcAwZA), the fan-made episode. I'm excited about this!

Also linking this (http://rublegun.deviantart.com/art/A-long-way-home-355822171) for the beautiful music.

Vinyl and Octavia are crazy adorable here. Though I might just have a weakness for shoulder-sleeping.

[Anarion]

You want me to spell it out? Fine.

I am not a pony princess, I have never been a pony princess and I never will be a pony princess, nor any combination of pony or princess (or prince or other royalty or quadruped mammal, avian, dragon, amphibian or reptile); no matter how many times you say it, it won't become any more true. I am a Lich, formerly of physical human varity (but never mentally), of mithril alloy physical structure.


What about if:

a) We determined that in Equestria, "Princess" is a genderless title or royal station and
b) you just happened to be teleported to an alternate reality version of Equestria where, for reasons related to the stupidity of one or more of the inhabitants, you ended up taking over and assumed the station of princess?

[Forderz]

Just recommending The Best Night Ever made me read it again, and I cried at the end. Not out of sadness, but of joy.

It has the happiest ending of anything I've ever read, ever. I look at perfection like that, and wonder what the hell I'm doing with my own writing. Why do I write about archaic parliamentary politics and religious schisms and violent insurgencies and proxy wars when I could be doing a simple story about a stallion become more than what he once was.:smallfrown:

You all should read The Best Night Ever. It should be winning an Oscar right now, films be damned, but it isn't. Because the world doesn't always recognize greatness.

[Bryn]

So guys. Since I have no cartoons left to watch, and I need something to fill the empty void that is my life, I decided to go read up on some fanfiction. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking for something lighthearted, without any too dark content. I already checked out Thanquol's A Study in Rainbow, which I really liked, but I'm hoping to find more.
Seconding Kd7sov's recommendation of Skywriter - at least, of that I've read.

A solid source for stories is the reviews of EQD's six-star stories at One Man's Pony Ramblings (http://onemansponyramblings.blogspot.co.uk/p/6-star-reviews-by-star-rating.html). I don't always agree with his highest-rated fics, but these reviews are well-considered and engagingly written. It does a very good job of filtering most of the bad stories from the 6-star list. The Pony Fiction Vault (http://www.ponyfictionvault.net/) also has a very large collection of (generally) good stories.

Fimfiction user DPV111 is running a series of recommendations starting here (http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/71706/dpv111s-weekend-fic-recommendation-1-two-and-two-and-two--contents-under-pressure--en-fuego-by-mayclore) focussed on relatively-unknown fic. I haven't actually read enough of the recommended stories to comment on whether I agree, though. Also on FIMFiction is Seattle's Angels (http://www.fimfiction.net/group/1734/Seattle%27s-Angels/threads), who write some pretty entertaining reviews.

Light-hearted fic recs:
Sisters (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/45044/sisters) by Bad Horse is and companion story In Celestia We Trust, All Others Pay Cash (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/45828/In-Celestia-We-Trust%2C-All-Others-Pay-Cash) by Georg are quite lovely, from what I remember.

Blueshift (http://www.fimfiction.net/index.php?view=category&user=7268)'s comedy fics are excellent, taking bizarre and inventive premises and doing a very good job of building on them.

[Balmas]

Random musing. Is it just me, or does each verse of A True True Friend add another part of harmony for each pony that joins?

*listens again*

Holy crap on a stick, it does. That's brilliant.


Just a funny thought: Princess Twilight has a Castle Playset and we know that Hasbro likes the playsets to be included in the show whenever reasonably possible. So its likely to be Twilight's new home in show.

So:

Are a bunch of new background ponies going to be created to be the castle staff?

Are a bunch of existing background ponies going to get new jobs as castle staff?

Is it going to be a depressingly empty castle with Twilight and Spike as the only residents?

It will be all Derpy. Derpy will be in every shot. And it will be glorious.


Trailer for Double Rainbow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OPr7_lcAwZA), the fan-made episode. I'm excited about this!

Also linking this (http://rublegun.deviantart.com/art/A-long-way-home-355822171) for the beautiful music.

And a comic too. (wide images)
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/041/5/1/tales_from_ponyville__chapter_2__page_1_by_karzahn ii-d5u5oeh.png
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/041/1/3/tales_from_ponyville__chapter_2__page_2_by_karzahn ii-d5uimrv.png
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/054/b/f/tales_from_ponyville__chapter_2__page_3_by_karzahn ii-d5vzpat.png

Finally! I've been waiting for this since... why, it must have been Fall 2012.

[quote=Theoboldi]So guys. Since I have no cartoons left to watch, and I need something to fill the empty void that is my life, I decided to go read up on some fanfiction. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking for something lighthearted, without any too dark content. I already checked out Thanquol's A Study in Rainbow, which I really liked, but I'm hoping to find more.[/url]

Hmm. Let's just put the comedy filter in my Favorites bin and see what comes up.

The Life and Times of a Winning Pony (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/28239/the-life-and-times-of-a-winning-pony) follows the adventures of the fun-loving Cloud Kicker and her long-suffering friend, Blossomforth. Contains adult humor and Derpy Muffins.

The Sisters Doo (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/33907/the-sisters-doo). Ditzy Doo has a secret, and it's coming to town. Rainbow Dash will be thrilled.

Gravity (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/72818/gravity). How does Applejack really do the things she does? I mean, unless she's made of dark matter, it should be impossible!

Shipping and Handling (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/16028/shipping-and-handling). When Ditzy Doo loses her job at Cloudsdale Mail and freight, she finds a new job at a different shipping company; she may have gotten more than she bargained for.

The Ballad of Echo the Diamond Dog. (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/10394/the-ballad-of-echo-the-diamond-dog) A human in Equestria fic? How terribly original!

...

Actually, yeah. This one kind of is.

Anthropology (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/4656/anthropology). Everyone loves Lyra. Go read this now.

[Metahuman1]

You want me to spell it out? Fine.

I am not a pony princess, I have never been a pony princess and I never will be a pony princess, nor any combination of pony or princess (or prince or other royalty or quadruped mammal, avian, dragon, amphibian or reptile); no matter how many times you say it, it won't become any more true. I am a Lich, formerly of physical human varity (but never mentally), of mithril alloy physical structure.


Don't give up yet Lichy! The Dao of Pony and Flow has ways.


Such as the brain breaking number of Bestow Curse: Gender Swap and Polymorph Any Object spells Pony thread will now begin spamming you with to fix the female and pony parts of the problem whilst spamming Pony's with Charm Monster, Mass and Chained along with Illusion spells to create the Illusion of an election for princess in which you are a candidate.


You see, all will be well, and soon, you shall in fact BE a pony princess.

Isn't that wonderful?!!!!

[Excession]

Mendacity (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/26192/mendacity) is good. Bon-Bon is secretly a rogue changling and she has to save Lyra from Chysalis during the events of A Canterlot Wedding. Contains a really good vision of the fae in Equestria.

Half the Day is Night (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/32279/half-the-day-is-night) is an older story that I remember enjoying. Mane six help Luna run Equestria while Celestia is on holiday. Season 1 canon only, so it's diverged a bit now.

Three Hundred and Fifty (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/68128/three-hundred-and-fifty) is turning into an interesting bit of world building and cute character development. Twilight and Sweetie Belle travel 350 years into Equestria's future.

It's a Dangerous Business, Going Out Your Door (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/its-dangerous-business-going-out-your.html) is a good Tolkien-esque adventure story for RD, AJ, and Rarity.

The Thessalonica Legacy (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/122/the-thessalonica-legacy) is another one that I think does human in Equestria well. Yes, it's a MechWarrior crossover, but I assure you it's good and not dark.

[Balmas]

It's a Dangerous Business, Going Out Your Door (http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/04/its-dangerous-business-going-out-your.html) is a good Tolkien-esque adventure story for RD, AJ, and Rarity.


I don't know; I think that Dangerous Business reminds me more of the writing style of Brian Jacques than of Tolkien. It's more personal.

[Soras Teva Gee]

You all should read The Best Night Ever. It should be winning an Oscar right now, films be damned, but it isn't. Because the world doesn't always recognize greatness.

Maybe all award shows should be rolled into one night of accolades. So they have to veto all speeches and attempts at "entertainment" in them.

[erikun]

Just a funny thought: Princess Twilight has a Castle Playset and we know that Hasbro likes the playsets to be included in the show whenever reasonably possible. So its likely to be Twilight's new home in show.
I would hope not. They've put the show into an interesting situation with the end of season 3, and I'd like see what they do with it.

Specifically, we've seen the characters getting handed some new responsibilities. Rainbow Dash now has training at the Wonderbolts to keep her busy. Twilight is now a princess, with responsibilities and probably expectations. Rarity and Applejack can easily be given more responsibility where they work. Season 4 could take a shift to balancing your priorities, and to still being a good friend while still making time for the things you need to do - a slightly more mature message for a now slightly older audience.

Or we could see the made-for-DVD movie destroy Princess Twilight's castle and force her to move back into Ponyville.

Yep, I'm thinking one of those is quite likely.


So:

Are a bunch of new background ponies going to be created to be the castle staff?

Are a bunch of existing background ponies going to get new jobs as castle staff?

Is it going to be a depressingly empty castle with Twilight and Spike as the only residents?

I'm betting on possibility 3 only because it would suck for Spike. He's already cleaning constantly in the library with a huge castle to take care of he's going to have no free time whatsoever. And as we all know Spike is the show's buttmonkey.
I would be nice to see a few well-known background ponies move in and take up work around the castle. It would be a good excuse to give them voices or more cameos.

Not too many, mind you. I don't want the entire town of Ponyville moving it; we're not doing a Suikoden re-enactment, after all.

[Forum Explorer]

So guys. Since I have no cartoons left to watch, and I need something to fill the empty void that is my life, I decided to go read up on some fanfiction. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking for something lighthearted, without any too dark content. I already checked out Thanquol's A Study in Rainbow, which I really liked, but I'm hoping to find more.




Well no one has recommended the original Fallout Equestria and that's just wrong.

It's an epic tale (in both length and everything) about a crossover between Fallout and Ponies. It works scarily well.

Those the Princesses would Destroy is a hilarious story about the beuercrats in Equestria

Everything by Thanqol

Everything by Eakin

I'd recommend the Lunaverse if you want something more episodic.



Alicorn Twilight?
Will it be Catch 22 problem?

What do you mean?


And then Princess Celestia turned to Luna, and said, "Isn't it lovely? Twilight sent me a dozen roses! What a wonderful student!"

And thus Twilestia. :smallwink:

[Bryn]

Well no one has recommended the original Fallout Equestria and that's just wrong.

I'm looking for something lighthearted, without any too dark content.
Uh...

without any too dark content.

Fallout Equestria
Seriously?


Edit to add further explanation:
Despite the impressive scale of the work, and writing which remains engaging for at least the first half enormous length of the fic (I have not read further), I have a lot of problems with Fallout: Equestria. Most of it is to do with the endless rape; from the earliest chapters, the fic uses rape to set up violence by the protagonist (i.e. as kick the dog moments for villains so that we're cheering when they die); later it's used as backstory for one character, and to threaten the (female) protagonist.

Although it is very popular, I would be reluctant to recommend without mentioning that, for the sake of trigger warning and because I do not think these tropes are OK; for someone who specifically requested minimal dark content I would definitely not recommend Fallout: Equestria even if Kkat made less regular use of rape in her story.

To summarise as a sort of content note, which may be spoilery, Fallout: Equestria shows the central characters of MLPFIM turning Equestria into an exaggerated dystopia over the course of a brutal war fought against a nation of zebras on dubious grounds. It sets up close analogues of Fallout setting elements such as FEV, super mutants, ghouls, centaurs, Vaults, raiders and slavers, the Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel, nuclear weapons, etc. each based on elements of MLPFIM (usually, 'x but now it kills you in a gory way or maybe rapes you'). The main plot is built from Fallout 1, 2, 3, and (to some extent) 3's DLC, and the action is just as gory as any Fallout game and the protagonist kills about as many people; magical healing is used to allow her to receive extensive injuries in most fight scenes. There's an extensive drug addition subplot, which is quite well done.

Or some illustrative examples of particularly jarring moments: At one point, one of the characters from MLPFIM burns another character alive in their powered armour. A raider is mentioned to have 'a cutie mark of a splayed torso', or something like it; violent cutie marks of raiders seem to be a thing (I vaguely remember someone commenting that that is given some sort of explanation later, but I didn't see it in the first half of the fic).

I found all the Fallout elements to be awkwardly crowbarred into the MLPFIM setting, rather than - as many fans describe it - a plausible extension of the elements and themes of the show.

In any case, it's made entirely of dark content.

It is, however, one of the most universally popular fics in the fandom, not nearly as controversial as other popular fics such as My Little Dashie. Chris of OMPR (http://onemansponyramblings.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/6-star-reviews-part-80-fallout.html), for example, considers it to be an example of an "absurdly dark and at times viscerally disgusting story which retains the core spirit of MLP" with a lot of praise for it. Bad Horse says (http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/77891/why-fallout-equestria-is-worth-reading-even-if-you-hate-it) a lot of things in its favour, most of which I find unconvincing but maybe some of them become more evident in the later parts of the fic... though honestly I do not find them plausible. If you don't mind the grimdark stuff, maybe you'd like it as much as they do. And I admit I have given it a lot more thought than most fanfic, if only to consider why I don't like it nearly as much as I hoped to.

[HamHam]

So guys. Since I have no cartoons left to watch, and I need something to fill the empty void that is my life, I decided to go read up on some fanfiction. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking for something lighthearted, without any too dark content. I already checked out Thanquol's A Study in Rainbow, which I really liked, but I'm hoping to find more.

I'm really liking Flash Fog. (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/51991/flash-fog)

The Lunaverse is as a whole only slightly more serious than the main continuity, so I'm just gonna drop Boast Busted (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/13204/Boast-Busted) here.

Exit through Canterlot (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/58321/exit-through-canterlot) is very interesting, especially for an Octavia focused story.

Trying to think of things that are actually complete...

Ditzy Doo's Dismally Derpy Day (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/9102/ditzy-doos-dismally-derpy-day) is pretty cute.

Anthropology (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/4656/anthropology) I like, and it's about best pony so... although the one about Lyra and Bon Bon's house being haunted is pretty good too. (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/54666/the-haunting-in-ponyville)

The first... oh... half dozen chapters of Life and Times of a Winning Pony before we discover that in fact the universe hates Cloudkicker and will never ever let her be happy?

[Balmas]

Uh...


Seriously?

You're totally right, Bryn. I mean, why would you read that thing when you could read the much more creative Fallout Equestria: Project Horizons? It's a lot shorter, is less violent, and has perhaps a tenth of the immoral acts and amoral characters than what you'll find in the original. It's like the bright, clean version that captures the true spirit of Pony.

#blatant lies

[BlasTech]

Becoming an alicorn: You're doing it wrong Twilight. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC8XixNzwGk&feature=player_embedded)

[Dirtytabs]

I could have sworn it was "If you feel like helping, we'd appreciate a laugh"
Useless info: Listening to the song again, Applejack's lines are the... rhymiest. Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash's rhyme schemes almost follow ABCB, Rarity's follows ABCB, and Applejack's follow AABB. I thought it sounded odd compared to the rest, so this may be the reason.

Urgh, first post on the page.

[SiuiS]

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/59AA336B-3B5A-4F76-AEDC-37061D3AF126-684-00000092815EC091.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/DEF8337B-49DE-403D-A70B-AECB7AF65B0C-684-00000092951A6FDF.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/39F3EE5C-3C47-468D-81C4-5855274BD483-684-00000092A0357084.jpg



You saw the OP, my dear mage.*
Joyreaper, fire up the Chronomangler, retrieve the Equinox device. Then bring me a tequila sunrise in a tall glass with a side order of cherry flavour painkillers.*

Are we going to regret this, Ma'am? On second thoughts, forget I asked.


If you...insist!
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/055/5/f/transformation_scrap_1_2_by_mister_cope-d5w4iee.pnghttp://i50.tinypic.com/30vdmco.pnghttp://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/055/6/f/transformation_scrap_2_2_by_mister_cope-d5w4ijy.png
Your true self revealed! You are now a pretty pony princess, and as of ten seconds ago, always have been.*
Now if you'll excuse me, I've a splitting temporal headache coming on.

Uh, yeah. Anyway, so the new wacom tab isn't entirely terrible. Very weird to use, but not utterly terrible.

"SCORE!"



*eyeglow blink*

*eyeglow blink*

...

...

Oookaaaaay, Overlord II.*

Three mistresses, which unlike the first game you do not have a binary choice between one or other, but get all three automatically, one of them a ghost or something and "becoming "special friends" scene (no, really, that's how they refer to it in the game...) for each and then on top a "special friends" scene involving all three simultaneously.*

Completely unexplicit scenes, by the way, played for... laughs?, i.e. ahahaha, the tower is shaking, and the minions are trying to peek through the curtains, oh the hilarity?

That... was quite possibly the most... unusual... method of gaining an extra health bar I think I've ever encountered...

Weird.



Well, anytime you or he want me to send the main rules out, just yell.

*nodnod*




*sigh*



You are aware in this context "crown" meaning "to hit over the head with," right? Because I thought the implication was pretty clear...

"Bash SiuiS in the dome? Brain him? Yeah, I'm all over that. Sucker has it coming."



Well, I leave for a skiing trip and I come back to a new Ponythread. Has that happened to anyone else before? :smallconfused:

Oh, and I now officially claim the title of "Only brony on Earth who hasn't seen the S3 finale" until tomorrow. :smallbiggrin:

I missed the first half of thread 2 and the last half of thread 1 while vacationing at Disneyland.


Just recommending The Best Night Ever made me read it again, and I cried at the end. Not out of sadness, but of joy.

It has the happiest ending of anything I've ever read, ever. I look at perfection like that, and wonder what the hell I'm doing with my own writing. Why do I write about archaic parliamentary politics and religious schisms and violent insurgencies and proxy wars when I could be doing a simple story about a stallion become more than what he once was.:smallfrown:

You all should read The Best Night Ever. It should be winning an Oscar right now, films be damned, but it isn't. Because the world doesn't always recognize greatness.

"hm. Will read.

"That's a good question though. Why are you making fighty war political stuff? Happy pony stuff is fine."



Don't give up yet Lichy! The Dao of Pony and Flow has ways.*


Such as the brain breaking number of Bestow Curse: Gender Swap and Polymorph Any Object spells Pony thread will now begin spamming you with to fix the female and pony parts of the problem whilst spamming Pony's with Charm Monster, Mass and Chained along with Illusion spells to create the Illusion of an election for princess in which you are a candidate.*


You see, all will be well, and soon, you shall in fact BE a pony princess.*

Isn't that wonderful?!!!!

Nah. Ignoring the slew of immunities, sex and gender aren't weapons, and we have a respect for sovereignty around these parts.


Useless info: Listening to the song again, Applejack's lines are the... rhymiest. Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash's rhyme schemes almost follow ABCB, Rarity's follows ABCB, and Applejack's follow AABB. I thought it sounded odd compared to the rest, so this may be the reason.

Urgh, first post on the page.

"The first pagiest of posts!"


Hmm. Did notice something was off about her lines. Cool.

[Theoboldi]

Uh...


Seriously?


Edit to add further explanation:
Despite the impressive scale of the work, and writing which remains engaging for at least the first half enormous length of the fic (I have not read further), I have a lot of problems with Fallout: Equestria. Most of it is to do with the endless rape; from the earliest chapters, the fic uses rape to set up violence by the protagonist (i.e. as kick the dog moments for villains so that we're cheering when they die); later it's used as backstory for one character, and to threaten the (female) protagonist.

Although it is very popular, I would be reluctant to recommend without mentioning that, for the sake of trigger warning and because I do not think these tropes are OK; for someone who specifically requested minimal dark content I would definitely not recommend Fallout: Equestria even if Kkat made less regular use of rape in her story.

To summarise as a sort of content note, which may be spoilery, Fallout: Equestria shows the central characters of MLPFIM turning Equestria into an exaggerated dystopia over the course of a brutal war fought against a nation of zebras on dubious grounds. It sets up close analogues of Fallout setting elements such as FEV, super mutants, ghouls, centaurs, Vaults, raiders and slavers, the Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel, nuclear weapons, etc. each based on elements of MLPFIM (usually, 'x but now it kills you in a gory way or maybe rapes you'). The main plot is built from Fallout 1, 2, 3, and (to some extent) 3's DLC, and the action is just as gory as any Fallout game and the protagonist kills about as many people; magical healing is used to allow her to receive extensive injuries in most fight scenes. There's an extensive drug addition subplot, which is quite well done.

Or some illustrative examples of particularly jarring moments: At one point, one of the characters from MLPFIM burns another character alive in their powered armour. A raider is mentioned to have 'a cutie mark of a splayed torso', or something like it; violent cutie marks of raiders seem to be a thing (I vaguely remember someone commenting that that is given some sort of explanation later, but I didn't see it in the first half of the fic).

I found all the Fallout elements to be awkwardly crowbarred into the MLPFIM setting, rather than - as many fans describe it - a plausible extension of the elements and themes of the show.

In any case, it's made entirely of dark content.

It is, however, one of the most universally popular fics in the fandom, not nearly as controversial as other popular fics such as My Little Dashie. Chris of OMPR (http://onemansponyramblings.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/6-star-reviews-part-80-fallout.html), for example, considers it to be an example of an "absurdly dark and at times viscerally disgusting story which retains the core spirit of MLP" with a lot of praise for it. Bad Horse says (http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/77891/why-fallout-equestria-is-worth-reading-even-if-you-hate-it) a lot of things in its favour, most of which I find unconvincing but maybe some of them become more evident in the later parts of the fic... though honestly I do not find them plausible. If you don't mind the grimdark stuff, maybe you'd like it as much as they do. And I admit I have given it a lot more thought than most fanfic, if only to consider why I don't like it nearly as much as I hoped to.

Yeah. Equestria Fallout is exactly what I wasn't looking for. I've played Fallout 2, know how dark the setting is, and avoided it for exactly that reason.
Also, I don't like overusing rape in stories too much either. It may be fitting and perhaps even somewhat realistic in a post apocalyptic setting, but I really don't like when it's just used so off-handedly as a tool.

That aside, I always wanted to check out the Lunaverse, even though I haven't had time for it. I'll be sure to look at the other ones too. Thanks for all the suggestions, guys.

[Forderz]

Uh...


Seriously?


Edit to add further explanation:
Despite the impressive scale of the work, and writing which remains engaging for at least the first half enormous length of the fic (I have not read further), I have a lot of problems with Fallout: Equestria. Most of it is to do with the endless rape; from the earliest chapters, the fic uses rape to set up violence by the protagonist (i.e. as kick the dog moments for villains so that we're cheering when they die); later it's used as backstory for one character, and to threaten the (female) protagonist.

Although it is very popular, I would be reluctant to recommend without mentioning that, for the sake of trigger warning and because I do not think these tropes are OK; for someone who specifically requested minimal dark content I would definitely not recommend Fallout: Equestria even if Kkat made less regular use of rape in her story.

To summarise as a sort of content note, which may be spoilery, Fallout: Equestria shows the central characters of MLPFIM turning Equestria into an exaggerated dystopia over the course of a brutal war fought against a nation of zebras on dubious grounds. It sets up close analogues of Fallout setting elements such as FEV, super mutants, ghouls, centaurs, Vaults, raiders and slavers, the Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel, nuclear weapons, etc. each based on elements of MLPFIM (usually, 'x but now it kills you in a gory way or maybe rapes you'). The main plot is built from Fallout 1, 2, 3, and (to some extent) 3's DLC, and the action is just as gory as any Fallout game and the protagonist kills about as many people; magical healing is used to allow her to receive extensive injuries in most fight scenes. There's an extensive drug addition subplot, which is quite well done.

Or some illustrative examples of particularly jarring moments: At one point, one of the characters from MLPFIM burns another character alive in their powered armour. A raider is mentioned to have 'a cutie mark of a splayed torso', or something like it; violent cutie marks of raiders seem to be a thing (I vaguely remember someone commenting that that is given some sort of explanation later, but I didn't see it in the first half of the fic).

I found all the Fallout elements to be awkwardly crowbarred into the MLPFIM setting, rather than - as many fans describe it - a plausible extension of the elements and themes of the show.

In any case, it's made entirely of dark content.

It is, however, one of the most universally popular fics in the fandom, not nearly as controversial as other popular fics such as My Little Dashie. Chris of OMPR (http://onemansponyramblings.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/6-star-reviews-part-80-fallout.html), for example, considers it to be an example of an "absurdly dark and at times viscerally disgusting story which retains the core spirit of MLP" with a lot of praise for it. Bad Horse says (http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/77891/why-fallout-equestria-is-worth-reading-even-if-you-hate-it) a lot of things in its favour, most of which I find unconvincing but maybe some of them become more evident in the later parts of the fic... though honestly I do not find them plausible. If you don't mind the grimdark stuff, maybe you'd like it as much as they do. And I admit I have given it a lot more thought than most fanfic, if only to consider why I don't like it nearly as much as I hoped to.

The ending is MLP:FiM to the core.

Sure, it takes you through the meatgrinder, but at the end you're left with an unambiguously happy ending. And I judge works on what they make me feel, and Fallout Equestria certainly hit me in the heart with a lot of its scenes. (Pinkie Pie!:smallfrown:)

[Balmas]

I judge works on what they make me feel, and Fallout Equestria certainly hit me in the heart with a lot of its scenes. (Pinkie Pie!:smallfrown:)

This is, to me, what makes FO:E shine. Yes, it's a horrible, dystopian future filled with terrible violence done by terrible people. However, in that milieu of gore, bloodshed and profanity runs a message of hope; things as they are may be horrible, but inside each of us rests the potential to change the world.

Take Littlepip. She's a nobody: a computer technician from a stable, and the junior technician at that. She's tiny, with only one spell to her name. Yet, because of her choices--and a good PR agent--she becomes a symbol of light and heroism. For all her flaws and issues, she's an emblem worth emulating.

FO:E is a strange, glorious creation which is neither Fallout nor MLP. At the same time, it is recognizable as both.

I find that it occupies a strange portion in my heart. I love it; it's one of the great works of the fandom. I proudly wave it around and recommend it to people who need an excellent, entertaining story to read. (Or, as the case may be, I recommend it to people who need something for their MP3 player, since by now it has two separate audiobooks and a radio play in the works.)

At the same time, I wouldn't want my mom or younger brothers to hear anything outside the first chapter, and maybe half of the second.

[SiuiS]

This is, to me, what makes FO:E shine. Yes, it's a horrible, dystopian future filled with terrible violence done by terrible people. However, in that milieu of gore, bloodshed and profanity runs a message of hope; things as they are may be horrible, but inside each of us rests the potential to change the world.

You're making an implication that just doesn't hold true. Sure, gore filled horrible dystopian bloody futures can have a streak of hope through them.... But so can a happy, upbeat and and uplifting future. There's nothing about happiness which precludes happiness.

What you're saying is "if you slog through all the downer crap, it pulls up at the end and the net sum is positive" and you're ignoring that you have to go through a huge span of time without that positive, but with the crap. The question wasn't about net gains, but about what is generally happy throughout. FO:E lacks said 'throughout'. It may be a good story – a great story – but it's not what the pony asked for.

[MLai]

Why do y'all call a winged unicorn an alicorn? What's the word root based on?
Also, y'all are crazy. I'm just gonna go watch some pony shows now. Need my nightly dose along with my meds.
My flu meds.

Edit: Also, I'm very curious what the Japanese-dubbed version of MLPFiM will be like come April 2013. And whether their viewers are "ready for it."

[Deadly]

...And so Deadly's idea gains currency. He's going to be insufferable :smallwink:

Heeeey! :smalltongue:


So guys. Since I have no cartoons left to watch, and I need something to fill the empty void that is my life, I decided to go read up on some fanfiction. Does anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking for something lighthearted, without any too dark content. I already checked out Thanquol's A Study in Rainbow, which I really liked, but I'm hoping to find more.

I notice that no one mentions my stories. They aren't all dark and awful :smallfrown:

Anyway, because self-promotion is apparently the thing, unless you're Thanqol or Eakin :smalltongue: let me recommend you some of mine ...

Painted Jack (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/81830/painted-jack) was quite well-received, although you might want to wait a bit because I'm trying to get it accepted on EqD and so it's getting a slight facelift soon.

As Celestia is my Witness (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/40645/as-celestia-is-my-witness) was also well-received and is certainly of the silly variety.

The Big Butterfly Brouhaha (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/69991/the-big-butterfly-brouhaha) is a silly story in a silly style of writing.

Pinkie Prefers Her Pasta Plain ... (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36536/pinkie-prefers-her-pasta-plain) if you're in the mood for silly romance.

The Nightmare Sonata (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36533/the-nightmare-sonata) is my own sort of favorite, in the sense that I'm quite happy with it. It also deserves more attention than it's got.

[Bryn]

Why do y'all call a winged unicorn an alicorn? What's the word root based on?
Wiktionary's entry (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/alicorn) traces the winged-unicorn sense of the word back to a book written by Piers Anthony in 1985, who got it from an advert for fantasy statuettes. It may (http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Nathan2000/Winged_unicorns) be related to French licorne or an old Italian word alicorno, or a specific Spanish legend.

Alicorn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicorn_horn) in the sense of a unicorn's horn or the material it's made of, historically often referring to what were really narwhal tusks, has its oldest citation only in 1930 in the OED (http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/343023?redirectedFrom=alicorn) (sadly behind a paywall if you're not at uni). The OED also records 'A (mythical) animal supposedly resembling a bull with wavy horns, sometimes used as a heraldic device.' going back as far as 1678.

[DigoDragon]

I'm making a reading list of the recommended fics on the previous page. I want to see who's story preferences match mine (I'm a big fan of Indiana Jones type adventuring). :smallsmile: Since it is a pretty big list I'll be a while.



Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash's rhyme schemes almost follow ABCB, Rarity's follows ABCB, and Applejack's follow AABB. I thought it sounded odd compared to the rest, so this may be the reason.

What scheme does Pinkie's verse follow? If it's AABB then it would seem the rhyming schemes were done by pony type.



http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/59AA336B-3B5A-4F76-AEDC-37061D3AF126-684-00000092815EC091.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/DEF8337B-49DE-403D-A70B-AECB7AF65B0C-684-00000092951A6FDF.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/39F3EE5C-3C47-468D-81C4-5855274BD483-684-00000092A0357084.jpg


We are gluttons for punishment. :smallbiggrin:



Also, y'all are crazy.

Thank you, we do try. :smallcool:

[SiuiS]

We are gluttons for punishment. :smallbiggrin:


I dunno. I was going for silly but the way Bleakbane rocks that pair of tiaras? Pretty bad ass. Like an undead, vengeful Indra.

My only regrets are that I don't have a reference for drawing one of his rocket launchers, and my impending spacemurder.

[Aotrs Commander]

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/59AA336B-3B5A-4F76-AEDC-37061D3AF126-684-00000092815EC091.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/DEF8337B-49DE-403D-A70B-AECB7AF65B0C-684-00000092951A6FDF.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/39F3EE5C-3C47-468D-81C4-5855274BD483-684-00000092A0357084.jpg

...

...

Uhoh.
Uhoh.
Pika.
Cino.
Molga.
Puffpuff.
Generic statement of alarm.
Pretty!

...
...
...
...
...
...

What? It is.

Sometimes I worry about you Star-Sergeant.

*eyeglow twitch*

*eyeglow twitch*

*eyeglow twitch*

Okay, nobody move. Or laugh. Definately do not pfft laugh. Pffft. Pfffffffft.


"Bash SiuiS in the dome? Brain him? Yeah, I'm all over that. Sucker has it coming."


He does now.

Um... he remembered the short swords, boss... Nice touch? Yes? Er... Okay?

Um... you'll have to excuse us, we all need to go outside for a moment to... do... stuff...

*flees*

*distant muffled sound of collective hysterical laughter*

*eyeglow twitch*

SIIIIIIIIIIUIS!!!!!

*grabs both rocket launchers (Snake launcher and Strayvian), one in either hand*

It would be remiss of me not to return the favour and double-crown you, wouldn't it?!

Gate XXV!

*spifflicate*



*nodnod*

Now, when you regain consciousness, was that a "*nodnod* I know" or a "*nodnod* yes we want the rules?"


Weird.

"Weird" wasn't quite what I was thinking, more that it was fairly clear the market the programmers were writing to...




Why do y'all call a winged unicorn an alicorn? What's the word root based on?

It was originally a phrase coined by the fanbase (from the aforementioned roots), as "winged pegasus" was too cumbersome, and it had the best ring to it. As of season three, however, "alicorn" has now become a canon term (as you have heard about Twilight's change, Rarity referred to her as such in that episode.)

(It's been suggested that an explanation in-world would be the phrase derives from the longer horns that they have (notably even Twilight's horn is a little longer after her transformation), which even ties it back to the meaning of the material of a unicorn's horn.)


Also, y'all are crazy.

You have no idea. It is perhaps worth noting that I had, lost and then seized back the title of designated (comparitively) sane one over the course of ponythread... and I'm a Lawful Evil megalomanical, omnicidal mithril-alloy-skeleton Lich with a rocket launcher, which should give you an idea how how utterly crazy ponysane (which is worse) ponythread is.


My only regrets are that I don't have a reference for drawing one of his rocket launchers

Will likely be around eventually, when I get around to doing the Aotrs 144 infantry (haven't done any CADing lately, since panto). When I do, I'll try and remember to post a shot of both the Snake Launcher and the Strayvian launcher (which of course is already existant on my 144 Strayvians).

[Grif]

I don't know; I think that Dangerous Business reminds me more of the writing style of Brian Jacques than of Tolkien. It's more personal.

It's not the writing style, but the setting. It is clearly Tolkien-esque. Jetfire even admitted it at one point that he drew a lot of inspiration from LotR. (Gildesdale is obviously a Rohan expy, for one.)

On another note, I'll admit I'm guilty of looking to see if anyone on ponythread liked my fics enough to recommend it. None apparently. :smallbiggrin:

[Deadly]

On another note, I'll admit I'm guilty of looking to see if anyone on ponythread liked my fics enough to recommend it. None apparently. :smallbiggrin:

You're in good company :smallsmile: I haven't gotten around to reading any of yours yet, but I'll get there for sure

[Tiki Snakes]

I like to think the in-universe root of the Alicorn thing is from All-icorn, as in, Earth Pegasus Unicorn/By your powers combined, etc.

[Soras Teva Gee]

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/59AA336B-3B5A-4F76-AEDC-37061D3AF126-684-00000092815EC091.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/DEF8337B-49DE-403D-A70B-AECB7AF65B0C-684-00000092951A6FDF.jpg

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee468/WizardPony/39F3EE5C-3C47-468D-81C4-5855274BD483-684-00000092A0357084.jpg


220% Win.


Why do y'all call a winged unicorn an alicorn? What's the word root based on?
Also, y'all are crazy. I'm just gonna go watch some pony shows now. Need my nightly dose along with my meds.
My flu meds.

Edit: Also, I'm very curious what the Japanese-dubbed version of MLPFiM will be like come April 2013. And whether their viewers are "ready for it."

As noted it just kinda caught on.

Speaking of flu you seem to be finding out pony displays some very pathogen-like characteristics.

And just my read is that I'll not be suprised if pony remains firmly a "kids show" in Japan.

[thubby]

220% Win.



As noted it just kinda caught on.

Speaking of flu you seem to be finding out pony displays some very pathogen-like characteristics.

And just my read is that I'll not be suprised if pony remains firmly a "kids show" in Japan.

As I've said, ponies are made of crack.

and ya, i dont expect pony to overtake japan. they're already fully saturated with adorable.

[Pendulous]

Why do y'all call a winged unicorn an alicorn? What's the word root based on?
Also, y'all are crazy. I'm just gonna go watch some pony shows now. Need my nightly dose along with my meds.
My flu meds.

Edit: Also, I'm very curious what the Japanese-dubbed version of MLPFiM will be like come April 2013. And whether their viewers are "ready for it."

If it's anything like Dragon Ball Z, the males will be played by females and sound horrible. "subbed is best", my flank.

[Tiki Snakes]

If it's anything like Dragon Ball Z, the males will be played by females and sound horrible. "subbed is best", my flank.

Why on earth would it be anything like Dragonball Z?

[Bryn]

This doesn't really imply much, but the Japanese MLP Wiki is at 180 articles - contrast English 663, Spanish 598, Polish 477, German 207, Swedish 177, Russian 117, Italian 38, Norwegian 34, Arabic 2. That's fairly low, but still higher than some countries with their own dubs - there must be reasonably many Japanese-speaking fans already. Of course, this says more about the popularity of mlp.wikia.com among speakers of the listed languages than MLPFIM's popularity in associated countries.

[Lix Lorn]

Don't give up yet Lichy! The Dao of Pony and Flow has ways.

Such as the brain breaking number of Bestow Curse: Gender Swap and Polymorph Any Object spells Pony thread will now begin spamming you with to fix the female and pony parts of the problem whilst spamming Pony's with Charm Monster, Mass and Chained along with Illusion spells to create the Illusion of an election for princess in which you are a candidate.

You see, all will be well, and soon, you shall in fact BE a pony princess.

Isn't that wonderful?!!!!
Yeah, good luck with that. We've determined that changing his form against his will requires some form of post-epic level magic, and an utter disregard for essentially any sense of morality that exists.

I've still been tempted, but that last bit has just about put me off. :smallwink:

[Pendulous]

Why on earth would it be anything like Dragonball Z?

I just tend to use that as a base for comparison ever. They used a female to voice Goku, and I have to constantly deal with people making fun of me for watching dubs. Plus, it's a high-female cast show. I do wonder though, if the Japanese will be arguing with each other about watching subs over dubs for MLP.

[OracleofWuffing]

It would be remiss of me not to return the favour and double-crown you, wouldn't it?!
Hooray! Ponythread now has double the double princesses! One could say that the fun has been multiplied by twice!


I like to think the in-universe root of the Alicorn thing is from All-icorn, as in, Earth Pegasus Unicorn/By your powers combined, etc.
I was on this end, too, before I read all the discussions about the word.

[Kd7sov]

What scheme does Pinkie's verse follow? If it's AABB then it would seem the rhyming schemes were done by pony type.

Ah... Pinkie doesn't sing a verse.

[Balmas]

Also, y'all are crazy.

Oh, this is nothing. You should have seen Ponythread in days of yore, where half the spoiler boxes were roleplaying between A) Boffinspark, owner and frequent user of the Orbital Friendship Cannon array; B) Silent Night, nigh-indestructible undead cult leader; C) Dive Bomb, purveyor of continent-destroying antimatter explosives; D) Bleakmane, Super space pony vampire princess.


It's not the writing style, but the setting. It is clearly Tolkien-esque. Jetfire even admitted it at one point that he drew a lot of inspiration from LotR. (Gildesdale is obviously a Rohan expy, for one.)

On another note, I'll admit I'm guilty of looking to see if anyone on ponythread liked my fics enough to recommend it. None apparently. :smallbiggrin:

...Now would probably not be the best time to mention that I didn't know that you wrote fics.

[Aotrs Commander]

They used a female to voice Goku

Wha? What's your point? The English Naruto dub uses a woman for Naruto... As did Dexter's Lab, Fairly Odd Parents (Tara Strong, no less), and dozens of others, in any language... Hell, including Spike in MLP! It's... really not an uncommon practise. Now, I can understand if you didn't like the Japanese voice acting, but picking it out because Goku was voiced by a female (in it's original medium, the original creator's intent, no less) seems... kinda... yeah.


and I have to constantly deal with people making fun of me for watching dubs.

Hey, I can count on the fingers of one hand how many subs I have watched (Nanoha - the first time - and Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth, and I'm seriously hoping they dub that eventually); I pretty much watch English dubs exclusively. 'Taint nothing wrong with a dub - as long as it's not lazily executed because the company doesn't really care about the source material (wherein lies the problems).

[Forum Explorer]

Uh...


Seriously?


Edit to add further explanation:
Despite the impressive scale of the work, and writing which remains engaging for at least the first half enormous length of the fic (I have not read further), I have a lot of problems with Fallout: Equestria. Most of it is to do with the endless rape; from the earliest chapters, the fic uses rape to set up violence by the protagonist (i.e. as kick the dog moments for villains so that we're cheering when they die); later it's used as backstory for one character, and to threaten the (female) protagonist.

Although it is very popular, I would be reluctant to recommend without mentioning that, for the sake of trigger warning and because I do not think these tropes are OK; for someone who specifically requested minimal dark content I would definitely not recommend Fallout: Equestria even if Kkat made less regular use of rape in her story.

To summarise as a sort of content note, which may be spoilery, Fallout: Equestria shows the central characters of MLPFIM turning Equestria into an exaggerated dystopia over the course of a brutal war fought against a nation of zebras on dubious grounds. It sets up close analogues of Fallout setting elements such as FEV, super mutants, ghouls, centaurs, Vaults, raiders and slavers, the Enclave and Brotherhood of Steel, nuclear weapons, etc. each based on elements of MLPFIM (usually, 'x but now it kills you in a gory way or maybe rapes you'). The main plot is built from Fallout 1, 2, 3, and (to some extent) 3's DLC, and the action is just as gory as any Fallout game and the protagonist kills about as many people; magical healing is used to allow her to receive extensive injuries in most fight scenes. There's an extensive drug addition subplot, which is quite well done.

Or some illustrative examples of particularly jarring moments: At one point, one of the characters from MLPFIM burns another character alive in their powered armour. A raider is mentioned to have 'a cutie mark of a splayed torso', or something like it; violent cutie marks of raiders seem to be a thing (I vaguely remember someone commenting that that is given some sort of explanation later, but I didn't see it in the first half of the fic).

I found all the Fallout elements to be awkwardly crowbarred into the MLPFIM setting, rather than - as many fans describe it - a plausible extension of the elements and themes of the show.

In any case, it's made entirely of dark content.

It is, however, one of the most universally popular fics in the fandom, not nearly as controversial as other popular fics such as My Little Dashie. Chris of OMPR (http://onemansponyramblings.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/6-star-reviews-part-80-fallout.html), for example, considers it to be an example of an "absurdly dark and at times viscerally disgusting story which retains the core spirit of MLP" with a lot of praise for it. Bad Horse says (http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/77891/why-fallout-equestria-is-worth-reading-even-if-you-hate-it) a lot of things in its favour, most of which I find unconvincing but maybe some of them become more evident in the later parts of the fic... though honestly I do not find them plausible. If you don't mind the grimdark stuff, maybe you'd like it as much as they do. And I admit I have given it a lot more thought than most fanfic, if only to consider why I don't like it nearly as much as I hoped to.


Yeah. Equestria Fallout is exactly what I wasn't looking for. I've played Fallout 2, know how dark the setting is, and avoided it for exactly that reason.
Also, I don't like overusing rape in stories too much either. It may be fitting and perhaps even somewhat realistic in a post apocalyptic setting, but I really don't like when it's just used so off-handedly as a tool.

That aside, I always wanted to check out the Lunaverse, even though I haven't had time for it. I'll be sure to look at the other ones too. Thanks for all the suggestions, guys.

Yeah I missed that sentence about the not too dark stories. Fallout Equestria is very dark, but still very good.

[DigoDragon]

and my impending spacemurder.

Well, at least you'll go down for something worth it. :smallsmile:



I'll admit I'm guilty of looking to see if anyone on ponythread liked my fics enough to recommend it. None apparently. :smallbiggrin:

I think I have you on my list... do I have you on my list? :smalleek:
Quick, what's your handle, I should put you on the list! Again. If not already.

I know I have Deadly on my list because his username is sorta similar to mine.



I like to think the in-universe root of the Alicorn thing is from All-icorn, as in, Earth Pegasus Unicorn/By your powers combined, etc.

"What kind of power is Heart Honesty anyway?" :smallbiggrin:



I have to constantly deal with people making fun of me for watching dubs.

I know that feel. I watch many dubs as well despite the ridicule.



Ah... Pinkie doesn't sing a verse.

She didn't? I thought she had a little piece at the end... huh. Guess I'm remembering something different. Strange considering she's the defacto team "Break out into song" character.
Ah well, have an adorable Pinkie Pie Cannon:
(large and in charge)
http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/174/3/5/hi__i__m_pinkie_pie____by_beavernator-d54msnl.png

Bonus handheld android party cannon:
http://th09.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2013/022/2/3/pinkie_pie_2_0_by_stickfigurequeen-d5sdmqu.png

[Soras Teva Gee]

If it's anything like Dragon Ball Z, the males will be played by females and sound horrible. "subbed is best", my flank.

It will be nothing like DBZ. My concerns are less otaku concerns and more that it will run directly into limits of otaku culture we don't in fact recognize here that often.

MLP:FiM is neither Shonen/Shoujo or Seinen/Josei.... its well talking animals like a certain "cat" of note. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doraemon) And so help me I'm *not* well verse here but I can't recall having running across much fandom for actual kid anime series before.

[thubby]

Wha? What's your point? The English Naruto dub uses a woman for Naruto... As did Dexter's Lab, Fairly Odd Parents (Tara Strong, no less), and dozens of others, in any language... Hell, including Spike in MLP! It's... really not an uncommon practise. Now, I can understand if you didn't like the Japanese voice acting, but picking it out because Goku was voiced by a female (in it's original medium, the original creator's intent, no less) seems... kinda... yeah.


all of the examples you gave are of children. women and children have a higher register than most men and child actors are more problematic for both practical and legal reasons, that's why it's common.

and yes, goku's original VA is face-palm inducingly awkard.

[Pendulous]

Wha? What's your point? The English Naruto dub uses a woman for Naruto... As did Dexter's Lab, Fairly Odd Parents (Tara Strong, no less), and dozens of others, in any language... Hell, including Spike in MLP! It's... really not an uncommon practise. Now, I can understand if you didn't like the Japanese voice acting, but picking it out because Goku was voiced by a female (in it's original medium, the original creator's intent, no less) seems... kinda... yeah.

Most of those points are moot considering that they are children being played by females.

It will be nothing like DBZ. My concerns are less otaku concerns and more that it will run directly into limits of otaku culture we don't in fact recognize here that often.

MLP:FiM is neither Shonen/Shoujo or Seinen/Josei.... its well talking animals like a certain "cat" of note. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doraemon) And so help me I'm *not* well verse here but I can't recall having running across much fandom for actual kid anime series before.

The weird thing is, when adults in the U.S. become a fan of an anime, likely it was intended for younger audiences in Japan.

[Aotrs Commander]

all of the examples you gave are of children. women and children have a higher register than most men and child actors are more problematic for both practical and legal reasons, that's why it's common.

Naruto is still voiced by Maile Flanagan and he's well passed the point where he could reasonably be considered a "child".

I don't particularly think there's anything wrong with retaining the same voice actor between child and adult, for consistency either; not everyone's voice drops that sharply at adolesence (and alien space-monkies are even less bound by convention.)

The alternative is Ben Ten, wherein his voice changes from Tara Strong to Yuri Lowenthal. Now, both are extremely good voice talents, but they don't sound especially similar to each other...

I can't speak to DBZ in particular, of course, having only seen the UK dub (the early one, where Vegeta sounds much less deep-throated).

[HamHam]

The weird thing is, when adults in the U.S. become a fan of an anime, likely it was intended for younger audiences in Japan.

I would say that most of what gets noticed in the US is what we would consider YA and up. Anime with the same intended demo as MLP exists, but it's not really crossed over that much.

[BlasTech]

I'm making a reading list of the recommended fics on the previous page. I want to see who's story preferences match mine (I'm a big fan of Indiana Jones type adventuring). :smallsmile: Since it is a pretty big list I'll be a while.

If Indy adventures are your thing, I hope you've at least read Whip and Wing (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/11410/whip-and-wing)then.

[erikun]

Why do y'all call a winged unicorn an alicorn? What's the word root based on?
As Bryn mentioned, an "alicorn" is the name of a unicorn's horn.

Alicorn is a pretty popular name for the pegasus/unicorn idea, though, and has been outside the MLP fandom (and well before Friendship is Magic made an appearance). As for in the show itself, we've heard the term "alicorn" used in two episodes: The Alicorn Amulet from Magic Duel, and Twilight Sparkle being referred to as an alicorn in the last episode Magical Mystery Cure.


[Edit]
So I received the first of the MLP micro-series comics today! Straight from IDW, at that. It was a short read, of course, but has anyone else picked it up?

Micro-Series Twilight Sparkle comic spoilers
I thought it was pretty decent. The different art style threw me a bit at first, but I hardly noticed by the end of the story.

Twilight is very Twilight in the story. Not the maniacal Twilight from when she has her breakdowns, but some good interactions with Celestia and Summer Mane. Her trick to get inside the library was quite the sneaky one...

I did actually notice the messed up cutie mark when it came up, but thought it was just an artist goof or intentional cartoony result from the dancing. I certainly didn't expect it to be related to the plot; point to the writers for that one.

[fizmat]

So, new episode, eh? And before you ask, I know I'm a week late. I have just one word for you: procrastination. The more I delay catching up with the thread, the more thread there is to catch up on. You know how it goes. I still have more than half a thread to go...

I liked it, for pretty much discussed reasons. I didn't mind the songs, except "Twilight Cometh", which was not that necessary. Then again, season finale, alicorn party, I can forgive one extra song in my musical episode.

I didn't mind the tight pacing, it didn't feel rushed, even though with just one episode it "should" have. If anything, the aftermath celebration felt a bit too drawn out.

A two-parter finale would be written very differently. Maybe it would have been better with more things explained. I trust the writers would not have explained the magic of friendship with midichlorians and we would have two good episodes instead of one. But aren't all the fanon explanations that are sure to be born out of this uncertainty in between seasons worth something too?

Case in point:


Maybe creating an Alicorn was the intended effect. Notice that Celestia never seems to use her magic on Twilight, the aura is purple like her own. The whole spacey place Twilight and Celestia were in were another plane of existence (probably some sort of energy plane) were the spell can draw on all the magic it needs to achieve the transformation. Celestia can travel there as an Alicorn and was simply waiting for Twilight to finish the spell to explain what this was all building up to and to sing her song.

Alicorns are possibly the ultimate culmination of all ponies' destinies but few can channel the necessary magic to cause them to achieve it. Celestia and Luna achieved it naturally, as did Cadence, but Starswirl figured he could use the elements as a catalyst to achieve the necessary power. Unfortunately he didn't understand the link necessary to properly utilize the magic and so all he did was get a spell that backfired the energy back on those using the elements and screwed around with their destinies.

And:


Here follow all Celestia's lines from Magical Mystery Cure that are germane to explaining ascension, and some preliminary analysis thereof:


It seems to me that there are three prerequisites for ascension to alicornhood: action, inspiration, and destiny. The pony in question must accomplish something grand and unprecedented. This grand and unprecedented action must inspire other ponies to be better by its own qualities and the qualities of the pony who performed it. To some extent, though I'm not prepared to speculate on to what extent, it is preordained that the pony in question will exemplify inspiring qualities, though not that she will necessarily happen on a grand, unprecedented action.

Celestia establishes quite quickly that Twilight's character is exemplary and inspiring. Her litany "charity, compassion, devotion, integrity, optimism" mirrors almost exactly the first time Twilight rattles off the five known (at the time) Elements of Harmony in Friendship is Magic Part 2 "Kindness, Laughter, Generosity, Honesty and Loyalty", complete with shots of the corresponding Element. The orders don't match up exactly, of course, but charity clearly corresponds to generosity, compassion to kindness, devotion to loyalty, integrity to honesty, and optimism to laughter. Leadership is the odd quality out, since it does not correspond to Magic - Friendship is Magic, not leadership. But Celestia's first line resolves that difficulty. Understanding and experiencing friendship allowed Twilight to go farther and deeper into magic than Star Swirl, to accomplish a grand and unprecedented action.

And it is the action that is important. Being exemplary and inspiring are not enough, otherwise yes, there would be a great deal more alicorns around. It doesn't quite fit, but in this respect, ascension is like a doctorate. A pony must add something new and special to the pony condition. Celestia and Luna, according to The Return of Harmony part 1 "discovered the Elements of Harmony", a fitting enough addition to the pony condition! Rediscovering the Elements of Harmony, and discovering her own place within the set, was important for Twilight, but it was the duplication of a grand and unprecedented feat on Celestia's and Luna's behalf. It was not unique. The only comparable achievement to the discovery of the Elements of Harmony was the discovery of the fire of friendship. Compare Clover the Clever's words to Celestia's when talking about Twilight's achievement: "Nothing like this has ever happened before. But I know it couldn't have been just me. It came from all three of us, joined together, in friendship."

This raises the possibility that Clover the Clever ascended (I'm confining the speculation to unicorns for now, since the only mechanism we've seen for ascension is through overt unicorn-style magic). Consider. Celestia and Luna have no other siblings, nor do they have children, but Cadance is supposed to be Celestia's niece. A while back I posted an Equestrian royal family tree that explained this by Celestia's and Luna's mother having a sister, who, like Celestia's and Luna's mother, married and had children. I had paired this mystery aunt of Celestia's and Luna's with Sombra to explain Cadance's inheritance of the Crystal Empire, but that's not really germane to the discussion of ascension. What is important is that if CtC is Celestia's and Luna's grandmother, then both lines, running through C&L's mother and aunt, could potentially breed natural alicorns. Celestia and Luna have no children, again, but Cadance is generations and generations down the line. The only real evidence for this is the presence of alicorns on the pre-C&L Equestrian flag, and that may just be a dramaturgical oversight. I hope you'll forgive my tangent.

Coming back to the point, much is made in this episode of Twilight proving her worth. The obvious question is "to whom?" Not to Celestia, surely. As has been pointed out, she doesn't do any magic in the astral realm (to borrow Anarion's phrase). More importantly, Twilight had proved herself to Celestia well before Magical Mystery Cure. Celestia demonstrated her faith in Twilight in Friendship is Magic and The Crystal Empire, and Twilight had possibly inspired her as early as her entrance exam! After all, as attested to by this episode, cutie marks are to some extent (again, to what extent is a matter for another time) reflections or manifestations of destiny, Celestia was there when Twilight's appeared, and after a thousand years is probably an expert on their interpretation. It was always within Twilight to become a princess, but as I have demonstrated, the becoming is important too. So again, who judged her becoming? I'm going out on a limb here, but I think it might have been the Elements themselves. They knew when they were being used for something inspiring and unprecedented. This is reflected in the reactions of their bearers to Twilight's ascension. Nopony is fazed or disturbed. Everypony accepts her new state of being. Of course, this could in whole or in part be down to their friendship, but that's not an obstacle to the theory and is indeed proof of it.


I thought of the princesshood ~ doctorate association immediately after Celestia said that line. Though I didn't go that deep into analysis.



Characters should not look like desserts and wedding cakes.
What do you people have against cake? Cake should be a work of art, harmonious in all respects. Just because it's fleeting and tasty does not excuse bad standards being applied to its aesthetics.

[Soras Teva Gee]

The weird thing is, when adults in the U.S. become a fan of an anime, likely it was intended for younger audiences in Japan.


I would say that most of what gets noticed in the US is what we would consider YA and up. Anime with the same intended demo as MLP exists, but it's not really crossed over that much.

Pretty much, most anime fans here begin as either teens or immediately prior. And on both sides of the Pacific while there are of course adult fans as well, you don't see it all the way down to children's shows.

I speculate that the relative lack of the Animation Age Ghetto has a twisted effect that animation for kids... remains for kids. And that certain content becomes more strictly categorized too. All the cute talking animals I know in anime are mascot types in otherwise human casts.

In its own way Japanese animation is really not that variable in its content.



What do you people have against cake? Cake should be a work of art, harmonious in all respects. Just because it's fleeting and tasty does not excuse bad standards being applied to its aesthetics.

What makes a cake or present look good does not generally improve a living person.

[MLai]

Up to S02E15... the first MLP eps which I feel should have/ could have been done better. A case of potential squandered... much like the entire 1st season of Legend Of Korra.
It's the Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000. The Apple family proves its cider superiority through integrity and time-honored methods, and drives the snake-oily Flim Flam brothers out of town along with their eeeevil automation.
Really.
I'm just going to copy/paste the Youtube comments which summarize my feelings:

TheSevenCamels 1 day ago
This was an incredibly dumb episode. The technology wasn't hurting anyone and it was filling an issue with the Apple family cider production and making ponies happy, but instead of trying to haggle with Flim & Flam to a 50%-50% deal, they instead decided that they would just refuse at 75%-25%, not understanding economics or bargaining at all. No progress was made and no lessons were learned.
On top of that, the Flim-Flam brothers were idiots too. If they had half a brain between them, they'd discard the poor quality cider after winning the competition, and only give Ponyville's denizens the quality-controlled barrels. They were already producing fast enough to feed the town with quality control, they just turned it off for the competition. Bloody stupid.
Mlai00 1 second ago
+1. Like Applejack said, "No lesson was learned." This includes the children watching. This eps could've been a great opportunity to teach kid viewers basic business and economics principles.
If the ciders somehow differed in quality, that would've made the show's stance valid. But the only thing different between the Apple Family Way and the 6000 Way was *automation* (and speed), everything else was the same. Oh, and unicorn magic.


Wha? What's your point? The English Naruto dub uses a woman for Naruto... As did Dexter's Lab, Fairly Odd Parents (Tara Strong, no less), and dozens of others, in any language... Hell, including Spike in MLP! It's... really not an uncommon practise.
It became a problem when Goku grew from a little kid in DB, into a bodybuilder adult in DBZ, and still kept the same damn female VA.
I had really expected the show to use the opportunity of time skip/ title change to change to a male VA.
But because the DBZ dub was so stupendously horrid, resorting to it gave you the same brainache just in a different lobe.

MLP:FiM is neither Shonen/Shoujo or Seinen/Josei.... its well talking animals like a certain "cat" of note. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doraemon) And so help me I'm *not* well verse here but I can't recall having running across much fandom for actual kid anime series before.
If MLP is even 1/10 as popular as Doraemon over there, Hasbro would have made back its Asia investment 1000x over. But yes, that viewing demographic probably won't go to cons or make websites. They will buy plenty of pony plushies, pony pajamas, and pony lifesavers though.
Anime fans *here* are more interested in the YA+ genre, but MLP would do just fine *there* if just restricted to children. What I'm wondering is if the same writing quality that helped MLP leap demos *here* would happen there.

[OracleofWuffing]

Cake should be a work of art, harmonious in all respects.
But what about all the artworks that are masterpieces because of their inherent discordance? :smalltongue:

[erikun]

Up to S02E15... the first MLP eps which I feel should have/ could have been done better.
A case of potential squandered... much like the entire 1st season of Legend Of Korra.
It's the Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000. The Apple family proves its cider superiority through integrity and time-honored methods, and drives the snake-oily Flim Flam brothers out of town along with their eeeevil automation.
Really.
I'm just going to copy/paste the Youtube comments which summarize my feelings:

TheSevenCamels 1 day ago
This was an incredibly dumb episode. The technology wasn't hurting anyone and it was filling an issue with the Apple family cider production and making ponies happy, but instead of trying to haggle with Flim & Flam to a 50%-50% deal, they instead decided that they would just refuse at 75%-25%, not understanding economics or bargaining at all. No progress was made and no lessons were learned.
On top of that, the Flim-Flam brothers were idiots too. If they had half a brain between them, they'd discard the poor quality cider after winning the competition, and only give Ponyville's denizens the quality-controlled barrels. They were already producing fast enough to feed the town with quality control, they just turned it off for the competition. Bloody stupid.
Mlai00 1 second ago
+1. Like Applejack said, "No lesson was learned." This includes the children watching. This eps could've been a great opportunity to teach kid viewers basic business and economics principles.
If the ciders somehow differed in quality, that would've made the show's stance valid. But the only thing different between the Apple Family Way and the 6000 Way was *automation* (and speed), everything else was the same. Oh, and unicorn magic.
Yeah, Super Squeezy 6000 got critisized a lot when it came out, especially along the economics problems it brings up. Specifically, if Sweet Apple Acres is the town's only cider producer, and it requires the funds from cider production to avoid debt/bankruptcy, then just how poorly managed is the farm?!

It was pointed out that cartoons can teach economics too (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg4-gMW89E0) quite a few times, as well. Other problems noted were the anti-industry vibe and Flim & Flam's general stupidity (as you already noted). Overall, it's not one of the better episodes, although it was amusing to watch the cider-pressing contest.

[Pendulous]

Anybody following the faux pas at Las Pegasus? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynn1VEvX2ns)

Seems the blame is going toward the people who organized the event, whoever that would be. Apparently they managed $12,000 through donations, though I'm not sure how.

[Forum Explorer]

Up to S02E15... the first MLP eps which I feel should have/ could have been done better. A case of potential squandered... much like the entire 1st season of Legend Of Korra.
It's the Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000. The Apple family proves its cider superiority through integrity and time-honored methods, and drives the snake-oily Flim Flam brothers out of town along with their eeeevil automation.
Really.
I'm just going to copy/paste the Youtube comments which summarize my feelings:

TheSevenCamels 1 day ago
This was an incredibly dumb episode. The technology wasn't hurting anyone and it was filling an issue with the Apple family cider production and making ponies happy, but instead of trying to haggle with Flim & Flam to a 50%-50% deal, they instead decided that they would just refuse at 75%-25%, not understanding economics or bargaining at all. No progress was made and no lessons were learned.
On top of that, the Flim-Flam brothers were idiots too. If they had half a brain between them, they'd discard the poor quality cider after winning the competition, and only give Ponyville's denizens the quality-controlled barrels. They were already producing fast enough to feed the town with quality control, they just turned it off for the competition. Bloody stupid.
Mlai00 1 second ago
+1. Like Applejack said, "No lesson was learned." This includes the children watching. This eps could've been a great opportunity to teach kid viewers basic business and economics principles.
If the ciders somehow differed in quality, that would've made the show's stance valid. But the only thing different between the Apple Family Way and the 6000 Way was *automation* (and speed), everything else was the same. Oh, and unicorn magic.


It's true but you can look at it a slightly different way.

When the Apples rejected the initial proposal noting that it would ruin them, the Flim Flam brothers immediately promised to drive them out of business instead of negotiating a more even deal. They then played on their pride to trick them into accepting a contest where they had nothing to win and everything to lose.

Basically the Flim Flam brothers were flat out villains trying to cheat the Apples out of their farm. The technology had nothing to do with it. Though when used improperly it did destroy quite a few trees.

As for the good quality cider, well everyone was watching and they didn't know which barrels were good. Plus they didn't have enough good cider for Ponyville anyways. So they'd be forced to sell the garbage stuff and would get driven out of town anyways.

[Tectonic Robot]

Up to S02E15... the first MLP eps which I feel should have/ could have been done better. A case of potential squandered... much like the entire 1st season of Legend Of Korra.
It's the Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000. The Apple family proves its cider superiority through integrity and time-honored methods, and drives the snake-oily Flim Flam brothers out of town along with their eeeevil automation.
Really.
I'm just going to copy/paste the Youtube comments which summarize my feelings:

TheSevenCamels 1 day ago
This was an incredibly dumb episode. The technology wasn't hurting anyone and it was filling an issue with the Apple family cider production and making ponies happy, but instead of trying to haggle with Flim & Flam to a 50%-50% deal, they instead decided that they would just refuse at 75%-25%, not understanding economics or bargaining at all. No progress was made and no lessons were learned.
On top of that, the Flim-Flam brothers were idiots too. If they had half a brain between them, they'd discard the poor quality cider after winning the competition, and only give Ponyville's denizens the quality-controlled barrels. They were already producing fast enough to feed the town with quality control, they just turned it off for the competition. Bloody stupid.
Mlai00 1 second ago
+1. Like Applejack said, "No lesson was learned." This includes the children watching. This eps could've been a great opportunity to teach kid viewers basic business and economics principles.
If the ciders somehow differed in quality, that would've made the show's stance valid. But the only thing different between the Apple Family Way and the 6000 Way was *automation* (and speed), everything else was the same. Oh, and unicorn magic.
I liked that episode. It had a neat song. And Flam had a cool mustache.


It became a problem when Goku grew from a little kid in DB, into a bodybuilder adult in DBZ, and still kept the same damn female VA.
I had really expected the show to use the opportunity of time skip/ title change to change to a male VA.
But because the DBZ dub was so stupendously horrid, resorting to it gave you the same brainache just in a different lobe.


I also liked the Goku voice actor...

[Grif]

...Now would probably not be the best time to mention that I didn't know that you wrote fics.

*sniff* We're not friends any more.

/jk :smalltongue:

Well, to be fair, I'm kinda used to slipping under the radar around here, so I'm not terribly surprised. Do look them over if you have time, and see if any strikes your fancy. (Pony Effect notwithstanding, but that is kinda my guilty pleasure to write. I go by the same handle on FimFiction.)

[MLai]

Anybody following the faux pas at Las Pegasus? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynn1VEvX2ns)
Wow. How does something like this even happen? This is reneging on contract (somebody does work but doesn't get paid). The ppl who managed this con (who are they) could be brought to court. Dark day for y'all bronies.
I wish those 2 guys in the vid presented themselves more professionally, i.e. groomed better/ dressed better/ rambled less.


It's true but you can look at it a slightly different way...
Basically the Flim Flam brothers were flat out villains trying to cheat the Apples out of their farm. The technology had nothing to do with it...
Yes that's basically the same (valid) excuse that LoK had, i.e. "Basically Amon was a flat out villain using hypocritical rhetoric. The underlying social issues had nothing to do with it..."
Which is what makes it "potential squandered." I really like MLP for its usual de-emphasis on Us vs Them, and more emphasis on teaching kids how to view all sides of things. Speaking from personal primary/ secondary school experience (in USA), Economics/ Business is something kids don't get taught enough of, or the subject matter is so boring when not wrapped up in appropriate candy coating.
I can sort of see if the Flim-Flams had to go in order to keep the Show's Status Quo, i.e. Ponyville instead of Ponytropolis. But they're a migrating seasonal business anyways. If the Flim-Flams were businessmen portrayed in a neutral light, they could have brokered a deal with the Apples to provide the machinery during cider season, and then went on their way to another town by the end of the episode. Without taking out the cider contest.
P.S. I liked their song. I was bopping to it.
And Rarity like Flim (or was it Flam)? xD

[Spamotron]

I have an idea for a season 4 episode:

Problem 1: We still aren't really clear on just what Earth Pony Magic does.

Problem 2: A lot of people were sad that Twilight learned to fly offscreen and so we won't get any flight lesson episodes in season 4

Possible Solution to Both: Have an Episode where Applejack and Pinkie Pie teach Twilight how to use Earth Pony Magic since Alicorns are supposed to represent all 3 races equally.

[Kd7sov]

But what about all the artworks that are masterpieces because of their inherent discordance? :smalltongue:

I'm not sure which word it is, but I do not think at least one of the words in that sentence means what you think it means.

[Forum Explorer]

Yes that's basically the same (valid) excuse that LoK had, i.e. "Basically Amon was a flat out villain using hypocritical rhetoric. The underlying social issues had nothing to do with it..."
Which is what makes it "potential squandered." I really like MLP for its usual de-emphasis on Us vs Them, and more emphasis on teaching kids how to view all sides of things. Speaking from personal primary/ secondary school experience (in USA), Economics/ Business is something kids don't get taught enough of, or the subject matter is so boring when not wrapped up in appropriate candy coating.
I can sort of see if the Flim-Flams had to go in order to keep the Show's Status Quo, i.e. Ponyville instead of Ponytropolis. But they're a migrating seasonal business anyways. If the Flim-Flams were businessmen portrayed in a neutral light, they could have brokered a deal with the Apples to provide the machinery during cider season, and then went on their way to another town by the end of the episode. Without taking out the cider contest.
P.S. I liked their song. I was bopping to it.
And Rarity like Flim (or was it Flam)? xD

Yeah but it's harder to write a story if they basically go, hi lets have a reasonable mutually profitable deal. Then everyone leaves satisfied.

On the other hoof they could have ended with Flim and Flam having bet their machine rather then NOTHING AT ALL! So the Apples got the machine. Which would get rid of the anti-tech part at least.

[thubby]

Anybody following the faux pas at Las Pegasus? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynn1VEvX2ns)

Seems the blame is going toward the people who organized the event, whoever that would be. Apparently they managed $12,000 through donations, though I'm not sure how.

what is this?
I don't usually follow cons, but people are acting like the world is on fire. what happened, exactly?

[erikun]

Yeah but it's harder to write a story if they basically go, hi lets have a reasonable mutually profitable deal. Then everyone leaves satisfied.

On the other hoof they could have ended with Flim and Flam having bet their machine rather then NOTHING AT ALL! So the Apples got the machine. Which would get rid of the anti-tech part at least.
A perfectly reasonable deal (from one side) doesn't necessarily mean a reasonable deal from the other. Flim & Flam may be willing to go with 50%, but that may not be enough for the Apple Family. Conversely, only 25% for the brothers may not be enough profit for whatever expenses they may have, or may be far less than what they would get selling on their own.

I don't think that having Applejack basically con a machine from the travelling salesmen would send a good message to little girls. :smalltongue:

[Gamerlord]

what is this?
I don't usually follow cons, but people are acting like the world is on fire. what happened, exactly?
Unicon overestimated how many people would attend (Apparently they were expecting something like 2000 attendees, and only 1200 showed up), ran out of money, wasn't able to pay the bills or compensate the show staff, hotel started evicting people, convention staff bailed and left the various pony media groups to pick up the pieces.

[MLai]

Yeah but it's harder to write a story if they basically go, hi lets have a reasonable mutually profitable deal. Then everyone leaves satisfied.
I don't think it'd be that hard, as this is a show which doesn't hinge on conflict. I don't see you getting bored when watching episodes that were just "Friendship tralala" from beginning to end.
(1) I'd have the episode begin with the same premise, and then the FF bros arrive and do their schtick, but without the seedy undertones.
(2) Then Applejack flat out refuses to bargain due to pride in The Apple Way. Also I've never seen her with business sense, anyways. Granny's business genes might have skipped a gen.
(3) Granny tasted the Flim-Flam cider and realized it wasn't half-bad (shown in show). But didn't say anything.
(4) Cider contest. The ponies can still win, but that method wasn't sustainable; they worked themselves half to death, with friends pitching in, just to get parity with the 6000's output.
(5) There's still the problem of Dash never getting any. Granny finally fesses up, Applejack finally sees the errors of her ways, and an equitable seasonal deal with the FF bros are reached.
(6) Everyone's happy, kids learn a bit about business/ industry, and inventiveness is shown to be GOOD.

On the other hoof they could have ended with Flim and Flam having bet their machine rather then NOTHING AT ALL! So the Apples got the machine. Which would get rid of the anti-tech part at least.
That would be kind of terrible. It takes a lot of ingenuity, effort, and love for the subject matter (apple cider) to create a machine like that. We can't punish them for that.
Notice the brothers' cutie marks were also apples. Not evil mustaches or something.

[DigoDragon]

The most beautiful ghostie giggle EVAR (huge image):
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(http://fav.me/d5w7zir)

Applejack drinking Cider:
(I wish I had a month of free time to learn Joey's adorable art style)
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I hope you've at least read Whip and Wing (http://www.fimfiction.net/story/11410/whip-and-wing)then.

I've read two stories on the entirety of the site... that not being one of them. :smallbiggrin:
But thanks for linking it, I have added it to my "To Read" list.



The weird thing is, when adults in the U.S. become a fan of an anime, likely it was intended for younger audiences in Japan.

Oh, is this where a unicorn gets her wings? :smallwink:



then just how poorly managed is the farm?!

I don't think Sweet Apple Acres is poorly managed, I think it just has a low profit margin due to specializing in so few types of crops. Also, during the winter period there isn't really much to do crop-wise. I can see it being well managed, but just not a big money maker with it's narrow product offering.

I for one want to see Sweet Apple mechanize and expand what it sells...

[MLai]

I don't think Sweet Apple Acres is poorly managed, I think it just has a low profit margin due to specializing in so few types of crops. Also, during the winter period there isn't really much to do crop-wise. I can see it being well managed, but just not a big money maker with it's narrow product offering.
I don't think it's poorly managed, or has too few crops... it's probably the more altruistic reason of the Apple family simply not having the heart to raise prices in accordance to demand.
Apple Acres never has excess supply, there is excess demand, yet every country pony can always afford its products.
Apple Acres has a canon monopoly on Zap Apples, and even its regular apples are never undersold (AJ was picking all the apples on the entire land in that one episode). Stinkin' Rich started his family fortune by being the middleman for selling Zaps.
The family also has a regular ol' farm with farm animals, and labor stays in the family, so it's probably self-sufficient during the winter months.

[Pendulous]

Wow. How does something like this even happen? This is reneging on contract (somebody does work but doesn't get paid). The ppl who managed this con (who are they) could be brought to court. Dark day for y'all bronies.
I wish those 2 guys in the vid presented themselves more professionally, i.e. groomed better/ dressed better/ rambled less.


Those two people are voice actor Lee Tockar (Snips and Steven Magnet, the sea serpent from S1EP2, as well as literally thousands of other episodes of other shows), and Mike Bernstein, a.k.a. Final Draft, the head of Everfree Network, formerly Everfree Radio. And they're at the convention still.

what is this?
I don't usually follow cons, but people are acting like the world is on fire. what happened, exactly?

Apparently the people who put the event together didn't make enough money or chose not to pay, but either way, the voice actors, crew, and the event staff ended up not getting paid, so they threw together a donation for them, and apparently raised $12,000.

Edit: Found a random comment on a random website that was promoting the event to explain it better:

"The convention organizers bailed out on the last day, and have not been heard from since. This leaves many of the show's staff, including voice talents, writers, musicians and fans alike scrambling to pay for expenses that was promised by the event organizers (including accommodation costs, transportation expenses, etc.) Additionally, the hotel had to force people out of the area because of lack of payment (the event was supposed to end at 7:30 but people were forced out at 5). Since then, the My Little Pony community itself have organized fundraisers to try to repay the show's staff for their troubles and attempt to salvage relations with them in hopes future My Little Pony events will have the show staffers' continued support and appearance."

[MLai]

Those two people are....
Even more reason they should look (and sound) more presentable...

"[I]The convention organizers bailed out on the last day, and have not been heard from since."
Okay they seriously need to be brought to justice. Literally.

[Forum Explorer]

I don't think it'd be that hard, as this is a show which doesn't hinge on conflict. I don't see you getting bored when watching episodes that were just "Friendship tralala" from beginning to end.
(1) I'd have the episode begin with the same premise, and then the FF bros arrive and do their schtick, but without the seedy undertones.
(2) Then Applejack flat out refuses to bargain due to pride in The Apple Way. Also I've never seen her with business sense, anyways. Granny's business genes might have skipped a gen.
(3) Granny tasted the Flim-Flam cider and realized it wasn't half-bad (shown in show). But didn't say anything.
(4) Cider contest. The ponies can still win, but that method wasn't sustainable; they worked themselves half to death, with friends pitching in, just to get parity with the 6000's output.
(5) There's still the problem of Dash never getting any. Granny finally fesses up, Applejack finally sees the errors of her ways, and an equitable seasonal deal with the FF bros are reached.
(6) Everyone's happy, kids learn a bit about business/ industry, and inventiveness is shown to be GOOD.

That would be kind of terrible. It takes a lot of ingenuity, effort, and love for the subject matter (apple cider) to create a machine like that. We can't punish them for that.
Notice the brothers' cutie marks were also apples. Not evil mustaches or something.

I suppose, though it would completely change how Applejack was in that episode (where she was uneasy but willing to hear them out.) It could work of course, so I guess there were many different ways they could have improved the episode.

Oh and it was Granny who made the dumb bet (and gave them free apples to boot!) while also making a deal that made Filthy Rich incredibly, well rich, while leaving the Apples struggling year to year.

And it takes a lot of ingenuity, effort, and love to create a huge farm like Sweet Apple Acres. I'm just saying that the bet shouldn't have been so one sided considering Flim and Flam lost nothing as a result of losing. (While the Apples stood posed to lose everything.)

[OracleofWuffing]

I'm not sure which word it is, but I do not think at least one of the words in that sentence means what you think it means.
:smallwink: Try me. This is where my degrees are.

[Pendulous]

Even more reason they should look (and sound) more presentable...



Well, I mean, it was a spur of the moment kind of thing. That's how they were dressed when they were there. I mean, it's a convention, not a budget meeting for a big business. You dress for comfort (or cosplay). The sound, well, they're trying to keep it light, and trying not to act like they were begging. Lee makes funny voices for a living and Mike spends his free time making stupid puns (yes, that's what he's known for).

The other video explains it better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0JaBJgp0yE

[Soras Teva Gee]

I don't think it'd be that hard, as this is a show which doesn't hinge on conflict. I don't see you getting bored when watching episodes that were just "Friendship tralala" from beginning to end.

You seemed to have confused an episode about not falling for a scam because someone did a song and dance routine to sell their youth orchestra monorail cider making with the different episode about learning to adapt to changing times and methodologies.

The problem being the latter episode doesn't actually exist and very likely never existed at any stage of things. The latter episode might be a "better" episode but at the risk of inducing groans this is comparing apples to oranges. Or maybe fresh apples to applejack. At any rate its not actually talking about the material involved, its saying something entirely separate is "better" which when the improvement does not exist becomes an unfalsifiable claim.

Wasted potential is a very difficult argument to make in my book, for any show.

Not that that makes it any less common for any show. One of these days I need to codify my "grand unified monocomplaint" theory.

[Anarion]

Well, if I were Hasbro, what I'd do is require each con in the future to present me with a financial plan for how they're going to hold it. And maybe obtain insurance in case things go wrong.

They do that in boxing matches, for example, where they insure the match in case something happens and the event gets ruined, cancelled, or otherwise fails.

[Tiki Snakes]

Mmm. There's a thought. Not about the insurance thing, though that's not a bad idea.

No, I just recalled that I've been quietly wanting to try some actual Applejack for a while now. I really should see if they sell any around here. I don't mind a bit of cider now and then, provided it leans on the dry side, but a bit of apple liqueur could be really interesting.

[Soras Teva Gee]

Well, if I were Hasbro, what I'd do is require each con in the future to present me with a financial plan for how they're going to hold it. And maybe obtain insurance in case things go wrong.

They do that in boxing matches, for example, where they insure the match in case something happens and the event gets ruined, cancelled, or otherwise fails.

Because this is so not anything I have knowledge of... how much would Hasbro care?

Working from a blank slate I would casually have presumed these are all technically private affairs on the part of the specific persons involved right? Is it seriously the norm for employment contracts to specify one can't make personal appearances?

Now certainly if Hasbro is sending someone in an official capacity or if X convention is trying to court such a thing. Since we know they aren't entirely without interest in cons either.

I just kinda worry that people are leaping to the conclusion of the omnipotent corporate overlord without much basis.

[D_Lord]

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"Here it is, mr/miss undead universe!"

Edit: From another thread just now.

*It is Ill advised to use the Mass Awaken Spell Trick to get lot's of Awakened Pony's.

**More so to use Diplomacy to convince them all that they get a princess by electing them, and must be ruled by a princess.

***If I disregard the above rules, I may not then use Chained Mass Charm Monster as a spammed spell to get them all to vote for Whatever Candidate I endorse.

****Further, I may not then spam the LE Lich BBEG with Polymorph Any Object and Bestow Curse: Gender Swap, until he fails saves on both.

*****My next act may not be to endorse him as a candidate.

******I deserve everything that happens to me if I turn the BBEG Lich into a Pony Princess in this manner.

*******More so if I don't actually hinder all/any of his actual ability's or gear in the process but did give him lot's to new minions.




I found this and together they are great.

[MLai]

You seemed to have confused an episode about not falling for a scam because someone did a song and dance routine... with the different episode about learning to adapt to changing times and methodologies.
The problem being the latter episode doesn't actually exist and very likely never existed at any stage of things.
(1) Granny is the only... pony... who tasted the standard 6000 cider. She made a face that clearly said "Dang it, their cider ain't half bad!" If it wasn't completely up to her standards, you can bet your shoes she would've said so. Not a scam.
(2) The only reason the ponies eked out a win is because they got extra help at the last minute, and every pony worked to the bone to match 6000's standard speed. Outside of competition, 6000 obviously has better output and matches product quality. Not a scam.

The eps shouts "potential squandered" exactly because it wasn't a scam anywhere. Writers had to hand the FF bros the idiot ball to run them out of town with any legitimacy.

[Tiki Snakes]

The whole point of their song and dance number is to goad the owners of the land into an unwinnable contest. A contest in which the FlimFlam brothers have no costs and with the opposite party being the only one to face any risk or potential negative consequences.

The 6000 isn't a scam. It's the scammers ace in the hole. It's their ringer, their surefire win in a no-lose scenario. Even with the help of the mane six, the Apples lost the competition after all. The difference their help made was in forcing the FlimFlam brothers to expose their true nature, caring as they did more about winning the farm and the riches it would bring them than the quality of their cider or the effect it would have on other ponies.

[Soras Teva Gee]

The eps shouts "potential squandered" exactly because it wasn't a scam anywhere. Writers had to hand the FF bros the idiot ball to run them out of town with any legitimacy.

If Flim and Flam had the apple supply to make good on their "run you out of business" threat then they wouldn't need to trick the Apples into betting the farm in the first place now would they? AJ even put her hoof down when they tried to sell Apple apple made cider and they didn't pull out more from another supplier. Answer, they were lying.

That's the scam.

[SiuiS]

Well, if I were Hasbro, what I'd do is require each con in the future to present me with a financial plan for how they're going to hold it. And maybe obtain insurance in case things go wrong.

They do that in boxing matches, for example, where they insure the match in case something happens and the event gets ruined, cancelled, or otherwise fails.

Aye. It's actually sort of creepy to think about this. I feel just a touch ashamed that things went that far south and the response was seemingly to pass the buck.


Mmm. There's a thought. Not about the insurance thing, though that's not a bad idea.

No, I just recalled that I've been quietly wanting to try some actual Applejack for a while now. I really should see if they sell any around here. I don't mind a bit of cider now and then, provided it leans on the dry side, but a bit of apple liqueur could be really interesting.

Applejack is, near as I can tell, less a liquer and more a whiskey mash variant. That is, you're not goin to get a refreshingly cider-esque schnapps, you're going to get a disgustingly apple-coated Jack Daniels.

[Anarion]

Because this is so not anything I have knowledge of... how much would Hasbro care?

Working from a blank slate I would casually have presumed these are all technically private affairs on the part of the specific persons involved right? Is it seriously the norm for employment contracts to specify one can't make personal appearances?

Now certainly if Hasbro is sending someone in an official capacity or if X convention is trying to court such a thing. Since we know they aren't entirely without interest in cons either.

I just kinda worry that people are leaping to the conclusion of the omnipotent corporate overlord without much basis.

My suspicion is that an action like what happened at Las Vegas poses a serious threat to all personal appearances by show staff at any future conventions, except possibly Bronycon.

It's a big mistake and it's exactly the sort of mistake that Hasbro worries about when its people get deluged by tons of con requests. Just be glad nobody got mugged wandering the streets of Vegas or there would be hell to pay.

And yes, Hasbro's employment contracts most likely have a policy on personal appearances. If they don't, they probably do have a policy about being fired without cause that is liberal towards Hasbro's ability to drop anyone on very short notice.


If Flim and Flam had the apple supply to make good on their "run you out of business" threat then they wouldn't need to trick the Apples into betting the farm in the first place now would they? AJ even put her hoof down when they tried to sell Apple apple made cider and they didn't pull out more from another supplier. Answer, they were lying.

That's the scam.

My best guess at the episode is that cider commanded a significant premium over apples and Applejack and Co. didn't know how to be a proper monopolist. If Flim and Flam had the whole cider market and Applejack has the only source of raw materials, you just charge them an inflated price for apples, leaving them just enough profit to make the endeavor worth Flim and Flam's while while capturing all the rest in inflated apple prices.

[MLai]

The whole point of their song and dance number is to goad the owners of the land into an unwinnable contest...
The 6000 isn't a scam. It's the scammers ace in the hole...
Even with the help of the mane six, the Apples lost the competition after all...
Hence why I said the story angle of making the brothers into villains is valid logistically, i.e. there's no plot hole per se, but squanders the potential of teaching kids basic business lessons in a fun way in favor of a simplistic Us vs Them story. And why I raised the example of Amon.


If Flim and Flam had the apple supply to make good on their "run you out of business" threat then they wouldn't need to trick the Apples into betting the farm in the first place now would they? AJ even put her hoof down when they tried to sell Apple apple made cider and they didn't pull out more from another supplier. Answer, they were lying. That's the scam.
It's logistically sound because they are written as villains in-setting, but it doesn't make much sense from a business or IRL perspective.
If you're innovators who figured out a way to revolutionize the cider-manufacturing process, you're not going to instantly turn evil and go around scheming to run apple orchards out of business. The sensible way to profit is by corralling in apple orchard owners so you have a sure source of raw materials.
Even if you're naturally ruthless, why would you want to run out the farm owners? Do you know how to tend apple orchards? Do you want to work on a farm? I look at those brothers and I'm thinking no.
If they must be villainous, they should be trying to strongarm the Apple family into being a supplier for FF Cider, rather than make their own Apple Farm cider.
But all that gets needlessly complicated for 1 episode. The easier and better way would simply be for the Apples and the FFs to strike a seasonal deal and teach kids a little something about supply vs demand, farming business basics, etc.


My best guess at the episode is that cider commanded a significant premium over apples and Applejack and Co. didn't know how to be a proper monopolist. If Flim and Flam had the whole cider market and Applejack has the only source of raw materials, you just charge them an inflated price for apples, leaving them just enough profit to make the endeavor worth Flim and Flam's while while capturing all the rest in inflated apple prices.
If the episode concentrated on business rather than villainy, I'd love for this to come up. An eps where the Apples forgo wealth in favor of generosity seems in line with the show.

[Forderz]

That song is so dang dope, though!

I was equally dismayed when the episode ended with Flim and Flam being typical villainous chavs. A golden opportunity to teach kids about supply, demand, and basic business dealings and they waste it on "I didn't learn anything."

That song makes up for it alone. So damn good!

[Anarion]

That song is so dang dope, though!

I was equally dismayed when the episode ended with Flim and Flam being typical villainous chavs. A golden opportunity to teach kids about supply, demand, and basic business dealings and they waste it on "I didn't learn anything."

That song makes up for it alone. So damn good!

"I didn't learn anything" was one of the most redeeming moments of the episode. If they had tried to do the same thing and throw in a lesson, it would have been terrible. At least in this case the show admitted that the whole thing was basically worthless and purely a random happenstance for our entertainment.