Cleric vs. Dragon

[Yajirobe]

Hi everyone,

Here is the deal, next week is my d&d 3.5 game. Because of how the last session ended, I believe we will face a green dragon this session (adult or young adult probably). I am looking for spells that might be useful or help the group in this battle.

I am the cleric, clr3/church inquisitor 2/divine oracle 4 of dumathoin (forgotten realms) with cavern, knowledge and oracle domain and dmm:persist


The group is a barb/fighter, a wizard conjurer, a ranger and myself.

I already know about shivering touch, but I kinda had to swear to the DM that i wouldnt cheese a lot so he would allow DMM persist, so he might veto the spell or make it so that it does not decrease the attribute to lower than 1, just like bestow curse.

Thanks in advance

[Raimun]

Dragons have Spell Resistance. If you plan to use magic directly, prepare Spell Vulnerability from Spell Compedium. That reduces the target's SR by 1/caster level.

Oh, and Resist Energy, Mass. Same book. Green Dragons breath acid. You don't need to Persist it, if you know when you are going to fight the dragon. Do use the mass version and help your friends.

Anti-Dragon Aura! Still same book. It adds a luck bonus to AC and saves for everyone, usable only against dragons.

[Matticussama]

Persisted Acid Resistance is of course a must. If the party doesn't already have spells to protect against mind-effecting spells, then make sure to prep those (Magic Circle Against Evil is of course a good one, for that plus defensive bonuses). There are other general buffs that are always useful, but more details would be needed first.

If you have time, you might want to consider casting Commune to get a few questions answered about what you're going to face. Those yes/no questions +DMM Persist can give you a lot of edge; for example, knowing if the Dragon has metabreath feats or not and if so if it can switch elemental types. Acid resistance doesn't count for much if the dragon can metabreath into whatever it needs.

[Gem_Knight]

Since it hasn't been said already-

Shivering Touch... still have to worry about SR, but assuming you find ways to get around this (True Cast, Assay Resistance), Dragons have horrible Touch AC and even more Generally 10 Dex unless your DM is specifically prepared for this tactic. 10 Dex means on average ONE casting of Shivering touch will reduce it to 0 Dex and it will be helpless. Two if you're unlucky with the dice.

[Raimun]

Since it hasn't been said already-

Shivering Touch... still have to worry about SR, but assuming you find ways to get around this (True Cast, Assay Resistance), Dragons have horrible Touch AC and even more Generally 10 Dex unless your DM is specifically prepared for this tactic. 10 Dex means on average ONE casting of Shivering touch will reduce it to 0 Dex and it will be helpless. Two if you're unlucky with the dice.

Hmm, Assay would give more benefit and it's Swift action but Spell Vulnerability lasts longer and everyone can benefit from it.

Shivering Touch was mentioned but OP's GM might not like it. Two Shivering Touches (for the good measure) would do the trick but where's the fun in doing it the easy way? :smallcool:

I'd recommend scouting (Scrying and Ranger) to catch the dragon off-guard. Just buff everyone before the battle and start ripping.

[Gem_Knight]

Hmm, Assay would give more benefit and it's Swift action but Spell Vulnerability lasts longer and everyone can benefit from it.

Shivering Touch was mentioned but OP's GM might not like it. Two Shivering Touches (for the good measure) would do the trick but where's the fun in doing it the easy way? :smallcool:

I'd recommend scouting (Scrying and Ranger) to catch the dragon off-guard. Just buff everyone before the battle and start ripping.

Unless I missed it- which I may have- I believe that would be an Edit about mentioning Shivering Touch.

still that aside, even without shivering touch, there's wraithstrike, Dragons still have ****ty touch AC

[Raimun]

Unless I missed it- which I may have- I believe that would be an Edit about mentioning Shivering Touch.

still that aside, even without shivering touch, there's wraithstrike, Dragons still have ****ty touch AC

OP mentioned in the original post that he knows Shivering Touch.

I'm assuming the GM would oppose "cheap" victory, like one shotting the enemy with a Save-or-Die.

[Krobar]

Unless I missed it- which I may have- I believe that would be an Edit about mentioning Shivering Touch.

still that aside, even without shivering touch, there's wraithstrike, Dragons still have ****ty touch AC

Unless the dragon casts Scintillating Scales.

Dragons are smart. They KNOW they are easy to touch, and will do everything possible to make it harder to touch them.

[Bubzors]

Besides all the buffs mentioned i like to have the Downdraft prepared from the spell compendium. If the dragon is pestering you above with flybys, ready to use this as he passes and hopefully he will plummet to the ground allowing some melee attacks

[Toliudar]

With two melees and (possibly) a summoner/BFC specialist in the group, buffing does seem like your best avenue. Mass Resist Energy. Recitation (persistable) or Prayer. Maybe freedom of movement on your front-liners, in case the dragon likes flyby/snatch tactics.

[Gwendol]

Downdraft, buffing, and summons. Guardinals make great summons.

[Fates]

Aura of Evasion (http://dndtools.eu/spells/draconomicon--92/aura-of-evasion--995/) can be very useful.