Long Class name

[ZamielVanWeber]

I need help making a character with a a long class name (ex: eagle totem barbarian 2/ wilderness rogue 1/ urban ranger 1). The caveats here are: it needs to be fairly viable at 13, say tier 4ish, and the race needs to be lesser svirfneblin. Aside from the the sky is the limit, classes, prestiege class, and templates. Suggestions?

[Incorrect]

Arctic lesser svirfneblin is a bit longer. Go searching for LA+0 templates?


Perhaps a level of Unarmed Swordsage, or Overwhelming Attack Monk.
If you want some arcane power to make a gish, consider the specialist wizard classes, such as Spontaneous Summoning Wizard.

But, can I ask, why is a long class name important?

[TroubleBrewing]

Cultist of the Shattered Peak, Inquisitor of the Drowning Goddess, Dispassionate Watcher of Chronepsis, Great Rift Deep Defender, Temple Raider of Olidammara, Vigilant Sentinel of Aerenal, Unholy Ravager of Tiamat, and Winterhaunt of Iborighu are all pretty long.

[Gandariel]

ALso Champion of Gwyrnejkiwsdfjnvhgjfki, or whatever it's called :P

[ahenobarbi]

Focused Illusion Specialist, Chains of Disbelief, Shadow Shaper, Illusion Mastery, Martial Wizard, Gnome Racial variant Wizard 3/
Master Specialist 2/
Mindbender 1/
Geometer 1/
Shadowcraft mage 3/
Fate spinner 1/
Mage of the Arcane Order 1/
Incantantrix 1

you get to ban 4 (3 for focused specialist, 4th for incantantrix) schools.
Ban

So ban Evocation, Conjuration, Necromancy, Transmutation. Your schools left are Abjuration, Divination, Enchantment, Illusion. This should make you tier 3-ish.

[ZamielVanWeber]

But, can I ask, why is a long class name important?

It is a long running joke between my DM and I. This particular campaign seemed like a good time to roll out the stops.

[Deaxsa]

Cultist of the Shattered Peak, Inquisitor of the Drowning Goddess, Dispassionate Watcher of Chronepsis, Great Rift Deep Defender, Temple Raider of Olidammara, Vigilant Sentinel of Aerenal, Unholy Ravager of Tiamat, and Winterhaunt of Iborighu are all pretty long.

want to add Knight of the Iron Glacier, Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil, Mage of the Arcane Order, Master Transmogrifist, Green Star Adept, Hand of the Winged Masters, and Scion of Tem-Et-Nu to that list.

More on topic: OP, do you want something that has a ton of classes and gets length that way, or something with classes that have long names, individually? because there's this thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274731)

edit: i'll keep searching for long class names, and post them here: no i won't i'm too lazy for that.

[Jormengand]

Champion of the Enlightened, Collegiate Arcanist, Deep Sea Pirate, Golden legionnaire, Agent of the Grave, Hell Knight Commander, Hell Knight Enforcer, Mage of the Third Eye, Transmechanical Ascendant...

[Eldan]

Is homebrew allowed? Because IIRC a svirfneblin is a kind of gnome, so there's this...

The Long Class Name (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6018203&postcount=5)

[Telonius]

I think "Chimeric Champion of Garl Glittergold" is probably the one with the most characters in it.

I think you could probably get a "Champion of Corellon Larethian/Mystic Keeper of Corellon Larethian." You might even be able to work in Champion of Growlywoof if you put in a level of Barbarian.

[Person_Man]

Wait, we're optimizing the length of the build's name? That's crazy. Or hilarious. Or crazy hilarious. I haven't decided which.

I proposed taking 1 level of every full BAB class or prestige class, using racial substitution levels and alternate class features whenever possible. Just having full BAB + Power Attack + Shock Trooper will keep you in Tier 4. Everything else is to lengthen your name.

[Zaq]

Shining Blade of Heironeous, Disciple of the Word, Beast Heart Adept, Paragnostic Apostle, Justice of Weald and Woe, Night Mask Deathbringer, Unseelie Dark Hunter, Knight of the Flying Hunt. . .

Among base classes, Dragonfire Adept and Dread Necromancer are pretty letter-heavy, though they don't have any good variants to tack on. I think Ranger probably will be your best bet for slapping on variants. Mystic Wildshape Spiritual Connection Planar Trap Expert Distracting Attack Ranger, anyone?

[Dusk Eclipse]

Shining Blade of Heironeous, Disciple of the Word, Beast Heart Adept, Paragnostic Apostle, Justice of Weald and Woe, Night Mask Deathbringer, Unseelie Dark Hunter, Knight of the Flying Hunt. . .

Among base classes, Dragonfire Adept and Dread Necromancer are pretty letter-heavy, though they don't have any good variants to tack on. I think Ranger probably will be your best bet for slapping on variants. Mystic Wildshape Spiritual Connection Planar Trap Expert Distracting Attack Shadow Sword, Shooting Star, Celestial Slayer, Arcanist hunter. Ranger, anyone?

Needed moar.

Made some corrections and additions >_<

[ZamielVanWeber]

What... what books are those variants from? I think I am in love.

[Dusk Eclipse]

From the List of ACF II (http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/19872054/Alternative_Class_Features_III)

Arcane Hunter (CM, p 32): lose normal favored enemy, gain "Favored Enemy (Arcanists)"

Aquatic Ranger (SW, p 51): Track in water, apply woodland stride to aquatic terrain instead of woodland terrain.

Celestial Slayer (EoE, p 20): must be evil; lose wild empathy, animal companion, and woodland stride, gain SR vs. good spells/spell-likes and +4 to confirm crit. vs. good creatures

Champion of the Wild (CC, p 50): Lose spellcasting for bonus feats.

Crowd-Walker (CS, web): Exchange woodland stride for the ability to move in crowds more easily.

Distracting Attack (PHB 2, p 55): Lose animal companion. Whenever you hit with an attack, the enemy is then considered flanked.

Elf Ranger Substitution Levels (RW, p 155): d6 hitdice, 8 skill points
1st level: Elf Favored Enemy (extra bonus vs certain races)
4th level: Elven Hound Companion
10th level: Strongheart Slayer (+4 morale bonus on will saves vs. drow and driders, +4 for bonus vs spider venoms), lose a favored enemy

Half-Elf Ranger Substitution Levels (RD, p 158):
1st level: Urban Tracking, lose tracking
4th level: Street magic (swap spell lists)
13th level: Skill mastery, lose camouflage

Heat Endurance (SSt, p 48): Gain Heat Endurance, lose Endurance.

Fangshields Ranger Substitution Levels (CV, p 41): nonhumanoid, add Diplomacy
2nd level: Combat Style (Multiattack or Improved Natural Attack (single natural weapon), Weapon Focus (any natural weapon), Weapon Focus (any other natural weapon), or Greater Weapon Focus (single natural weapon))
4th level: Animal Companion (as druid of 1/2 ranger level +2)
5th level: Lion and the Unicorn (+1 sacred bonus to AC during day or night), replaces favored enemy

Feign Death (EoE, p 21): lose evasion, gain ability to appear dead

Gnome Ranger Substitution Levels (RS, p 149):
1st level: Gnome Favored Enemy (bonus with certain skills vs favored enemy instead of damage)
4th level: Burrowing Animal Companion (stronger animal companion, can't share spells with it)
8th level: Gnome Ranger Spells (switch some spells on list)

Hidden Stalker (CS, web): Lose camouflage and normal hide in plain site, gain the ability to hide more easily in urban settings.

Kobold Ranger Substitution Levels (RDr, p 109):
1st level: Kobold Favored Enemy (favored enemy works with different skills)
4th level: Dire Weasel Companion, Kobold Ranger Spells (different spells)
7th level: Subterranean Stride (underground stride instead of woodland stride)

Phynxkin Companion (DrM, p 13): Gain a phynxkin instead of your normal animal companion.

Planar Ranger (UA, p 55): Wild empathy works better on fiendish/celestial creatures than it does on regular animals, may aquire a fiendish or celestial animal as a companion.

Planar Ranger (PlH, p 34): gain knowledge: the planes as a class skill
4th level: Planar Animal Companion
8th level: Portal Intuition (attempt to determine where portals lead), lose swift tracker
13th level: Planar Tracking (use plane shift to follow quarry), lose camouflage

Rival Organization (CS, web): Do not gain favored enemies. Instead, gain bonuses when fighting members of an organization which you have studied.

Sandskimmer (SSt, p 49): Gain Sandskimmer, lose woodland stride.

Shadow Sword Substitution Levels (CV, p 49): add Knowledge (history)
3rd level: Walk in Silence (+5 Move Silently for 1 round 1 day/2 ranger levels), replaces Endurance
6th level: Bane Weapon (treat weapon as bane weapon against favored enemy), replaces improved combat style
8th level: Portal Analysis (detect portal within 10', study as with analyze portal, use as with portal well), replaces swift tracker

Shape-changing (UA, p 58): Gain wildshape as druid (small and medium animals only) and fast movement as barbarian. Lose combat styles.

Shifter Ranger Substitution Levels (RE, p 128): add balance to list of class skills
1st level: Wild Empathy (add wisdom instead of Cha to wild empathy)
4th level: Share Shifting (share benefits of shifting with animal companion), replaces the ability to share spells
9th level: Enhanced Shifting (gain extra benefit while shifting, depending on primary shifter trait), lose evasion

Shooting Star Substitution Levels (CV, p 50): add Knowledge (arcana) and Spellcraft
3rd level: Weavespeak (as sending with restrictions), replaces Endurance
4th level: Bonus Spells, Improved Spellcasting, replaces animal companion
8th level: Expanded Spell List (see invisibility, word of recall), replaces swift tracker

Spell Reflection (CM, p 35): Lose evasion, gain the ability to reflect spells targeted at you that miss.

Spell-less Ranger (CW, p 13): Lose spellcasting, gain fast movement and spell-like abilities. Spiritual Connection (CC, p 50): Lose wild empathy, gain speak with plants and speak with animals spell effects. Spiritual Guide (CC, p 50): Lose animal companion. As long as you're in natural settings, gain a bonus on several skills. Use commune with nature once per day.

Trap Expert (DS, p 12): Lose tracking. Gain trap finding, and disable device as a class skill.

Urban Ranger (UA, p 55): No animal companion greater than medium, replace tracking with urban tracking, no woodland stride or camouflage. Add only one half level to wild empathy checks. Gain Hide in Plain Site in any area, and additional spellcasting.

Urban Companion (CS, web): Instead of a normal animal companion, instead gain something similar to a familiar.

Urban Tracker (CS, web): switch normal tracking for urban tracking.

Voice of the City (CS, web): Lose wild empathy to gain the ability to communicate with people who speak languages you do not know.

Waste Hunter (SSt, p 49): Choose a specific wasteland creature from among current favored enemies, gain additional benefits against that creature.

[Answerer]

Is homebrew allowed? Because IIRC a svirfneblin is a kind of gnome, so there's this...

The Long Class Name (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6018203&postcount=5)
I've loved that class for a long time, actually played one once, and am so glad to see it put to the best use possible.

[Daftendirekt]

ALso Champion of Gwyrnejkiwsdfjnvhgjfki, or whatever it's called :P

Gwynharwyf.

[Talderas]

What the heck is with gnomes and long names?

My Epic gnome illusionist had a name made of 6 names.... they acronymed out to SHADOW.

Sue me.

[Daftendirekt]

Both gnomes I've played only had two names - a first and a last. Wait, scratch that, I played a 3rd one for a couple sessions that had like 6 names I think (so 4 middle names). It's just a bit too silly to do every time, and also a lot of work to think of so many good names.

[Eldan]

I played a gnome with a long name, but that was because I stole his name from an actually existing spanish nobleman, so he had all his family's holdings listed in there as well, in addition to about ten middle names.