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Serpentine
2013-03-09, 04:10 AM
I've decided to start my Kobold Run game IRL again (twice, actually... Turns out there's a fair bit of interest in it, too much for just one group :smalleek:). I think some of my players are having trouble with their characters, so I thought I'd open this up to bring their questions here for Playground input - you lot know a lot more about crunch than I do.

Let's start us off with utter cuteness: An adorable dumb Rogue who tends to play possum when threatened and has a thing for dorfs. I mean dwarves. I vaguely recall a class feature or something that involves looking so adorable and pathetic that the attacker has to do a Will save to hurt them. This ring a bell to anyone? It may've been homebrew.

The others, if anyone's interested in contributing, include:
A cowgirl kobold.
A beastial kobold warrior (think he's using some sort of psionic warrior class, so he's probably right)
A shiny-fetishist kobold.

Currently nagging the rest for their character concepts...

So, any advice or resources or whatever on any of these?

dascarletm
2013-03-09, 04:13 AM
Races of the dragon has a whole partial focus on kobolds. I'd start there.

Serpentine
2013-03-09, 04:18 AM
Yeah, I own that. Speaking of which, I should make sure everyone knows they can come over and do character building with me sometime...

Serpentine
2013-03-09, 05:33 AM
I have one! Anyone seen a dire hog or riding pig statted up anywhere?

HalfQuart
2013-03-09, 10:34 AM
I have one! Anyone seen a dire hog or riding pig statted up anywhere?
You mean like the Boar (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/boar.htm) or Dire Boar (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/direBoar.htm)?

Serpentine
2013-03-09, 11:01 AM
Yeah, I found the boar a little while after I posted that. And I knew about the dire boar, that was just a bit too hardcore.

Toy Killer
2013-03-09, 11:48 AM
Honestly, I don't know about a Hog, but I would just re-fluff a riding dog as the hog, take away a couple points of strength and add a bit of constitutions, take away the trip and add Diehard.

But that may be just me...

oldkingkoal
2013-03-09, 02:41 PM
Ohhh, I have ALWAYS wanted to make a kobold only game. Just sounds crazy fun. But I could never think up a good plot for that kind of setting. May I ask how your going about your game? Ive been trying to gather up ideas for when I work up mine.
I'm not terribly great at builds and the like, sorry I cant be much help on your question.

Baroncognito
2013-03-09, 02:55 PM
Let's start us off with utter cuteness: An adorable dumb Rogue who tends to play possum when threatened and has a thing for dorfs. I mean dwarves. I vaguely recall a class feature or something that involves looking so adorable and pathetic that the attacker has to do a Will save to hurt them. This ring a bell to anyone? It may've been homebrew.

It sounds like a spell to me: Miserable Pity (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/m/miserable-pity) or pup shape (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/p/pup-shape).

Serpentine
2013-03-11, 05:20 AM
At the very least Miserable Pity looks like it might be a good basis for a feat or something :smallbiggrin: I might design him a trait, and/or a flaw-feat combo...
I think maybe what I"m thinking of was in the cat homebrew thread. I'll go have a look there.
Ohhh, I have ALWAYS wanted to make a kobold only game. Just sounds crazy fun. But I could never think up a good plot for that kind of setting. May I ask how your going about your game? Ive been trying to gather up ideas for when I work up mine.
I'm not terribly great at builds and the like, sorry I cant be much help on your question.Did you delete a bunch of this post, or did it just look a lot bigger on my phone? :smallconfused:
Kobold Run is a really silly and casual game, deliberately designed to be flexible and low-planning. A bunch of mean ol' adventurers have slaughtered your clan, and now you have to find a new safe space to rebuild with the remains of the tribe. Baaaasically everything I've planned for it is in the PbP I started for it a while ago, here (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168929). There's some extra stuff, specifically what I more or less intend to be in each area, but I can't really say that here as some of my players might look in this thread. It's all very vague anyway.

edit: Hmm... Combat Panache could possibly work, too, if I tweak Sneering Glower into something more pathetic. Maybe Bluff or Charisma check instead of Intimidate.

Baroncognito
2013-03-11, 05:31 AM
Honestly, for a kobold, I'd say to just give them the ability to take the spell as a feat. Maybe require that activating the ability is a DC 15 diplomacy, bluff, or perform (acting) check, and their ranks in that skill count as the caster level for the DC of the spell.

Serpentine
2013-03-11, 05:33 AM
That could possibly work, too. I'll think about it, and see what the player would like.

Darrin
2013-03-11, 07:02 AM
Let's start us off with utter cuteness: An adorable dumb Rogue who tends to play possum when threatened and has a thing for dorfs. I mean dwarves. I vaguely recall a class feature or something that involves looking so adorable and pathetic that the attacker has to do a Will save to hurt them. This ring a bell to anyone? It may've been homebrew.


Not homebrew. From the Fabulous Cats (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fools/20030401c) article. Make your rogue a tibbit or hengeyokai cat, and you're golden.

[EDIT]Wait, this is Kobold Only? Hmm... probably need to toss a baleful polymorph on that.

Serpentine
2013-03-11, 08:37 AM
Darrin: Hmmm... Could well be what I was thinking of, but there doesn't seem to be anything quite like what I'm after. Which is basically this:
http://media.tumblr.com/5db0faf4d51bff052acd8dd1ec3118b3/tumblr_inline_mio4z9DDOQ1qz4rgp.gif
(kinda wish I could find one that had him kicking butt afterwards.

Serpentine
2013-03-14, 07:02 AM
Hacks for playing a dumb Rogue: anyone got any?

Baroncognito
2013-03-15, 04:07 AM
Hacks for playing a dumb Rogue: anyone got any?

How dumb are you talking about here?

Serpentine
2013-03-15, 08:23 AM
6. It was 8, but he chose to reduce it.
So far he's got the feat that lets you use Dex for Search and Disable Device, and a tweaked version of Combat Panache.

edit: Bonus round! Anyone know some good sources of sample characters or spare NPCs? Just things like random Barbarians, normal villagers, dwarves, necromancers, that sort of thing, ready to go?