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Chromascope3D
2013-03-14, 09:31 PM
{DISCLAIMER: I don't know if this has been discussed before, a quick Google search beforehand came up with nothing}
From a personal standpoint, I really like this archetype (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/cavalier/archetypes/paizo---cavalier-archetypes/emissary). However, I have one problem with it.

At 17th level, they gain Erratic Charge, which, apparently, replaces Supreme Charge, which admittedly looks good at a cursory glance. They're both charge abilities, so it should be a good tradeoff. However, upon closer inspection, Supreme Charge is not gained at 17th level, it's the level 20 capstone.
Now, to me, this looks like a mistake that was never fixed. The abilities replaced up until that point are the tactician and banner chains, while the charging chain is left alone. Meanwhile, what ability is gained at 17th level? Master Tactician (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/cavalier#TOC-Master-Tactician-Ex-).

I, for one, think that Erratic Charge should've replace Master Tactician, not Supreme Charge. The archetype focuses on mobility and guerrilla striking, so it would benefit more from the latter ability, while the former would just be undermined by the lack of the other two tactician abilities. It would also open the class up to meshing with the Luring Cavalier Archetype (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/cavalier/archetypes/paizo---cavalier-archetypes/luring-cavalier), which could probably make a potent combo. Thoughts?

grarrrg
2013-03-14, 11:41 PM
I, for one, think that Erratic Charge should've replace Master Tactician, not Supreme Charge. The archetype focuses on mobility and guerrilla striking, so it would benefit more from the latter ability, while the former would just be undermined by the lack of the other two tactician abilities. It would also open the class up to meshing with the Luring Cavalier Archetype (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/cavalier/archetypes/paizo---cavalier-archetypes/luring-cavalier), which could probably make a potent combo. Thoughts?

You are most likely correct.
And there are a few things wrong with Ultimate Combat (Pistolero Gunslingers NOT losing Gun Training for one)
Still waiting on the errata last I checked though.