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Stormageddon
2013-03-15, 03:17 PM
Anyone have any experience playing a Bard and taken the Summon Monster spell chain on to their spell list? Is it worth it?
It seems like Summon Monster I would be a good option at low level. Summon a monster buff it, but at later levels does taking Summon Monster II through VI hold up? Even if you could buff the monster?
and are their any summoned monsters with a good SPA to make it awesome?
So many questions.....
stack
2013-03-15, 03:21 PM
The problem is that, with only 6 levels of spells, the summons fall behind, capping out at SM IV. If you want to play a summoner bard, there is a racial archetype for Wayang - shadow puppeteer (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/uncommon-races/arg-wayang/shadow-puppeteer-bard-wayang), that replaces bardic performance with summoning, though they are only shadow conjurations.
Stormageddon
2013-03-15, 04:50 PM
The problem is that, with only 6 levels of spells, the summons fall behind, capping out at SM IV. If you want to play a summoner bard, there is a racial archetype for Wayang - shadow puppeteer (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/uncommon-races/arg-wayang/shadow-puppeteer-bard-wayang), that replaces bardic performance with summoning, though they are only shadow conjurations.
Yup, Kinda what I was thinking as well.
What level does summon monster 1 become useless?
What a strange race that gets flavored class bonuses to all CHA based classes but no racial CHA bonus.
Jack Zander
2013-03-15, 06:52 PM
It becomes pretty subpar right around level 3 for anything other than a flanking buddy.
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