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Mrgone
2013-03-22, 04:49 PM
i have a question for the locals. im looking at the feat great and small as a possible size incress option for my druid. i know it can let me grow 1 size or shrink one size but was wondering if there were any other effects that came with growing or shrinking a size catagory like str bumps or minuses dex bumps or minuses and so on. any clarification would be appreciated thank you. :D

Greenish
2013-03-22, 04:56 PM
The feat says it works like Enlarge Person (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/enlargePerson.htm)/Reduce Person (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/reducePerson.htm), so you'd have those stat changes and the like.

Medic!
2013-03-22, 04:57 PM
Increasing one size catagory generally gives you +2 str, -2 dex, -1 atk, and -1 AC, along with +4 grapple/trip/etc.

Decreasing gives +2 dex, -2 str, (these are typed as "size bonuses"), +1 atk/AC, +4 hide, -4 grapple/trip/etc.

I say generally because once you get down to Tiny some bonuses get larger faster. Working within Small, Medium, and Large, it's just as above.

Greenish
2013-03-22, 05:01 PM
Increasing one size catagory generally gives you +2 str, -2 dex, -1 atk, and -1 AC, along with +4 grapple/trip/etc.

Decreasing gives +2 dex, -2 str, (these are typed as "size bonuses"), +1 atk/AC, +4 hide, -4 grapple/trip/etc.

I say generally because once you get down to Tiny some bonuses get larger faster. Working within Small, Medium, and Large, it's just as above.I think you're confusing the effects of the specific spells (which don't change whether you're going from Medium to Small or Small to Tiny) with this (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/improvingMonsters.htm#tableChangestoStatisticsbySi ze).

Medic!
2013-03-22, 05:07 PM
You would still have the appropriate changes based on size though. Being small, you would still have -4 grapple vs a medium creature, etc (which is already accounted for via size modifiers)...so over-all, it's the same thing right?

Greenish
2013-03-22, 05:55 PM
You would still have the appropriate changes based on size though. Being small, you would still have -4 grapple vs a medium creature, etc (which is already accounted for via size modifiers)...so over-all, it's the same thing right?What do you mean, the same thing? How is getting +2 Str, -2 Dex* the same thing as getting +8 Str, -2 Dex, +4 Con, +2 NA**?


*Growing from Medium to Large via Enlarge Person.

**Growing from Medium to Large via monster advancement.

Mrgone
2013-03-22, 07:26 PM
thanks for the feed back. i must have missed that in the discription. i went back and read it again and there it was. lol had my fingers crossed in hopes i would get to use the srd chart for stat incresses due to size incresses lol.