Hyde
2013-03-29, 02:09 PM
The Pathfinder Bard has the following ability:
At 2nd level, a bard can choose one type of Perform skill. He can use his bonus in that skill in place of his bonus in associated skills. When substituting in this way, the bard uses his total Perform skill bonus, including class skill bonus, in place of its associated skill's bonus, whether or not he has ranks in that skill or if it is a class skill. At 6th level, and every 4 levels thereafter, the bard can select an additional type of Perform to substitute.
The types of Perform and their associated skills are: Act (Bluff, Disguise), Comedy (Bluff, Intimidate), Dance (Acrobatics, Fly), Keyboard Instruments (Diplomacy, Intimidate), Oratory (Diplomacy, Sense Motive), Percussion (Handle Animal, Intimidate), Sing (Bluff, Sense Motive), String (Bluff, Diplomacy), and Wind (Diplomacy, Handle Animal). So, you take feats that increase your diplomacy checks, which typically read you gain a +X (untyped, or is it assumed to be a "feat" bonus" to all diplomacy checks. So you use your Perform (Oratory) skill to sub out your diplomacy checks, because the feat is a bonus to the check and not the skill, is there some kind of weird staking you can do? (by virtue of the logic, any feats that had a bonus to your perform checks would similarly not apply, since it's not a perform "check" you're just using the skill) Or is this merely an instance of poor wording?
At 2nd level, a bard can choose one type of Perform skill. He can use his bonus in that skill in place of his bonus in associated skills. When substituting in this way, the bard uses his total Perform skill bonus, including class skill bonus, in place of its associated skill's bonus, whether or not he has ranks in that skill or if it is a class skill. At 6th level, and every 4 levels thereafter, the bard can select an additional type of Perform to substitute.
The types of Perform and their associated skills are: Act (Bluff, Disguise), Comedy (Bluff, Intimidate), Dance (Acrobatics, Fly), Keyboard Instruments (Diplomacy, Intimidate), Oratory (Diplomacy, Sense Motive), Percussion (Handle Animal, Intimidate), Sing (Bluff, Sense Motive), String (Bluff, Diplomacy), and Wind (Diplomacy, Handle Animal). So, you take feats that increase your diplomacy checks, which typically read you gain a +X (untyped, or is it assumed to be a "feat" bonus" to all diplomacy checks. So you use your Perform (Oratory) skill to sub out your diplomacy checks, because the feat is a bonus to the check and not the skill, is there some kind of weird staking you can do? (by virtue of the logic, any feats that had a bonus to your perform checks would similarly not apply, since it's not a perform "check" you're just using the skill) Or is this merely an instance of poor wording?