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CrazedRanger
2013-04-07, 11:31 PM
Please give me your feedback. When rolling numbers, I got, and will be placing them as such; (Dwarf racials applied) Str 16, Con 18, Dex 15, Int 13, Wis 14, Cha 9.

Monk
(Level 1 Character)
- Overwhelming Attack "Fighting Style"
--- 1st-Level Feat: Power Attack
- Great Fortitude (Level 1 Feat)
- Improved Unarmed Strike
- Flurry of Blows
- Skills: (4+ Int mod.)x4; Note: Bonus +1 to Intelligence.
--- Climb (4) ranks - Hide (4) ranks - Move Silently (4) ranks
--- Jump (4) ranks - Spot (4) ranks

Monk
(Level 2 Character)
- Overwhelming Attack "Fighting Sytle"
--- 2nd-Level Feat: Improved Bull Rush
- Evasion
- Skills: (4 + Int mod); Note: Bonus +1 to Intelligence.
--- Climb (5) ranks - Hide (5) ranks - Move Silently (5) ranks
--- Jump (5) ranks - Spot (5) ranks

Ranger
(Level 3 Character)
- Shape-changing alternate class feature.
--- Gain Wild-shape as Druid (small/medium animals only).
--- Gain fast movement as Barbarian. (+10 ft Movement)
--- "Lose" combat styles.
- Trap Expert
--- Gain Trap Finding (Search)
--- Gain Disable Device
--- Lose Tracking
- Favored Enemy (Monstrous Humanoid)
- Ascetic Hunter (Level 3 Feat)
- Skills: (6 + Int mod); Note: Bonus +1 to Intelligence.
--- Handle Animal (1) rank, Heal (2) ranks
--- Knowledge "Dungeoneering" (2) ranks, Survival (2) ranks

Ranger
(Level 4 Character)
- Skills: (6 + Int mod); Note: Bonus +1 to Intelligence.
--- Handle Animal (2) rank, Heal (4) ranks
--- Knowledge "Dungeoneering" (4) ranks, Survival (4) ranks

Ranger
(Level 5 Character)
- Endurance
- Skills: (6 + Int mod); Note: Bonus +1 to Intelligence.
--- Handle Animal (4) rank, Heal (5) rank, Hide (6) rank
--- Knowledge "Dungeoneering" (5) rank, Survival (5) rank

Fist of the Forest
(Level 6 Character)
- Unarmed Damage Increase
- AC Bonus: If unarmored gain Constitution Bonus to AC.
- Fast Movement: +10ft to Movement
- Feral Trance:
--- 1/day; Gain +4 Dex, +2 Dam Bonus, +Bite (1d6+Str), for 3+Con Mod rds.
- Primal Living
- Superior Unarmed Strike (Level 6 Feat)
- Skills: (2 + Int mod); Note: Bonus +1 to Intelligence.
--- Listen (1) rank, Move Silently (6) rank, Spot (6) rank

Deepwarden
(Level 7 Character)
- Track
- Trap Sense +1
- Skills: (6 + Int mod); Note: Bonus +1 to Intelligence.
--- Hide (7) ranks, Listen (2) ranks, Move Silently (7) ranks
--- Search (3) ranks, Spot (7) ranks

Deepwarden
(Level 8 Character)
- Stone Warden: Use Constitution instead of Dexterity for AC.
- Skills: (6 + Int mod); Note: Bonus +1 to Intelligence.
--- Hide (8) ranks, Listen (3) ranks, Move Silently (8) ranks
--- Search (6) ranks, Spot (8) ranks

Ranger
(Level 9 Character)
- Improved Natural Attack: (Level 9 Feat)
- Skills: (6 + Int mod); Note: Bonus +1 to Intelligence.
--- Search (9) ranks, Disable Device (4) ranks

Ranger
(Level 10 Character)
- Favored Enemy (Magical Beast)
- Wild shape 1/day
- Skills: (6 + Int mod); Note: Bonus +1 to Intelligence.
--- Disable Device (11) ranks

Warshaper
(Level 11 Character)
- Morphic Immunities: Immune to Stunning, and Critical Hits.
- Morphic Weapons: Move action; Change size of unarmed strike by 1 category.
- Skills: (2 + Int mod); Note: Bonus +1 to Intelligence.
--- Climb (6) ranks, Jump (6) ranks

Warshaper
(Level 12 Character)
- Morphic Body: +4 to Strength, and +4 Constitution

Special Note: This puts unarmed damage at 4d6 by level 11 with the two size increases. Your Base Attack Bonus is +10/+5, with base saves being +12/+9/+7 at level 12. Later the feat Steadfast Determination is a consideration, to gain and even greater benefit of having a high Constitution.

From level 13 to 20 you have a lot of possibilities. I will probably take 7 levels of Assassin, but I'm curious how the unarmed Monk/Ascetic Ranger damage, with the two size category increases would work with Master of Many Forms - Cave Troll, War Troll - Zern wildshape forms.

Edit - Must have Magical Items: Necklace of Natural Weapons & Monk Tatoo (Magic of Faerun).

metabolicjosh
2013-04-07, 11:35 PM
Um.... Me likey :smallbiggrin:
It feels powerful without being a game breaker! I always search for that kind of combo... but you do it so.... well

CrazedRanger
2013-04-07, 11:39 PM
Um.... Me likey :smallbiggrin:
It feels powerful without being a game breaker! I always search for that kind of combo... but you do it so.... well

As a player who has been a dungeon master for some.... 22 years, when I play I try to find the most interesting off the wall builds, that are not insanely overpowered.

My youngest son is the dungeon master over this character, so I wanted to get away from the crazy powerful builds that utilize spell casting, so that he will have an easier time as a dungeon master to learn.

I love epic campaigns as a dungeon master, and I'm known to be the; "Yes guy" when it comes to rules, so I'm hoping I kept this build within the letter of the law since I tend to let my players bend them.

metabolicjosh
2013-04-07, 11:42 PM
I see no rules broken here. And unless you care about favored class rules, no one does, then there are no bent rules either. Good job, and good luck to your son.

Sith_Happens
2013-04-08, 02:13 AM
Normally I'd say that this build is begging for Shock Trooper (since Overwhelming Attack style gives both the prereqs), but that's likely to break the whole "not giving my son too hard a time as a first-time DM" thing.

Juntao112
2013-04-08, 02:18 AM
This seems terribly familiar... (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116838)

CrazedRanger
2013-04-08, 02:24 AM
This seems terribly familiar... (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116838)

I see some glaring differences in the two builds. :smallsmile:


Normally I'd say that this build is begging for Shock Trooper (since Overwhelming Attack style gives both the prereqs), but that's likely to break the whole "not giving my son too hard a time as a first-time DM" thing.

Oh I thought about it. Level 3 now, and I'm starting to believe we're going into the underdark, and Shock Trooper with say Pounce would probably break his heart. :smallbiggrin:

Though I've told him once he learns, I will introduce him to the overpowered casters I love to play.