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HandofShadows
2013-05-17, 06:52 AM
A HD one at that. :smallbiggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5guMumPFBag

Rather surprised no one posted this already.

LaZodiac
2013-05-17, 07:49 AM
Would of if I hadn't seen it right as I was about to go to bed.

Guillermo Del Toro, take all my money.

MLai
2013-05-17, 08:02 AM
The movie just went ahead and called them "Kaiju." :smalleek:

Tengu_temp
2013-05-17, 08:45 AM
Ah, Pacific Rim. This might be the first big budget American movie that understands what makes the mecha genre work. I have very high hopes for this.

Gamerlord
2013-05-17, 09:18 AM
Eh, this whole thing is obviously just a ripoff of Atlantic Rim. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVpQmZmKNmo)

More seriously, Pacific Rim is still looking just as awesome as when we first heard of it. :smallbiggrin:

Chromascope3D
2013-05-17, 09:28 AM
1:42 I really, really wanted him to shout, "TODAY WE CELEBRATE... OUR INDEPENDENCE DAY."

LaZodiac
2013-05-17, 10:22 AM
The movie just went ahead and called them "Kaiju." :smalleek:

Yup! It's pretty awesome.

Bhu
2013-05-17, 12:57 PM
Eh, this whole thing is obviously just a ripoff of Atlantic Rim. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVpQmZmKNmo)

More seriously, Pacific Rim is still looking just as awesome as when we first heard of it. :smallbiggrin:

OMG how did they get Graham Green to star in one of these crapfests!

t209
2013-05-17, 12:59 PM
Pacifim Rim, now with less Whiny teenager (Stop whining Shinji).

The Glyphstone
2013-05-17, 01:13 PM
Is it just me, or does the mockbuster version look almost as good as the authentic movie?

Silverraptor
2013-05-17, 01:54 PM
Man, I haven't been this excited for a movie in a long time.

First trailer I saw looked like it had promise, but it was mixed with advertising a phone, so my entire family and I didn't know if it was real, since they spent more time advertising the phone than this movie.

Pokonic
2013-05-17, 02:55 PM
As a great american poet once said; Chicks. Dig. Giant. Robots.

Mutant Sheep
2013-05-17, 06:27 PM
I don't care about the gaint robots fighting giant monsters, I just wanna see Ron Perlman be a black market badass.:smallamused: (Ok, fine. Giant robots are ******* awesome.:smallbiggrin:)

Amaril
2013-05-17, 06:31 PM
Pacifim Rim, now with less Whiny teenager (Stop whining Shinji).

Seriously, Shinji, just get in the f***ing robot :smallannoyed:

Cannot wait for this movie! And even better, it has the voice of GLaDOS in it :smallbiggrin:

Eldan
2013-05-17, 06:54 PM
Is it just me, or does the mockbuster version look almost as good as the authentic movie?

The effects don't look half bad, but the monster looks pretty damn wimpy.

Blackmoor
2013-05-17, 07:52 PM
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/264/200/acb.jpg

Bhu
2013-05-17, 08:00 PM
Is it just me, or does the mockbuster version look almost as good as the authentic movie?

Their trailers always look nifty. Once you watch the film it goes from nifty to "Crap, I'll never get that hour and a half back."

Silverraptor
2013-05-18, 12:30 AM
Their trailers always look nifty. Once you watch the film it goes from nifty to "Crap, I'll never get that hour and a half back."

As what someone said to me when I asked why he was going to watch Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter, this was his response:

"I know its probably going to be bad, but I'm in the mood for a lot of action packed moments of vampire killing right now."

So even if the plot and story is bad as all hell, I'll be there to atleast appreciate the graphics and watch some giant monsters get their face bashed in with a giant metal fist.:smallbiggrin:

Bhu
2013-05-18, 12:34 AM
They did a mockbuster of Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tFaQYSFLuE This was it

You just saw the good bits. Along with the decent acting moments.


Don't get me wrong I love 'good' bad movies, I review them for a job. But Asylum just sucks. I think about 1 in 10 of their films I've ever seen gets a laugh. Even Troma does better than them.

HandofShadows
2013-05-18, 11:22 AM
Troma never pretended to be something it wasn't and gloried in what it was.

nyarlathotep
2013-05-18, 01:21 PM
As what someone said to me when I asked why he was going to watch Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter, this was his response:

"I know its probably going to be bad, but I'm in the mood for a lot of action packed moments of vampire killing right now."

So even if the plot and story is bad as all hell, I'll be there to atleast appreciate the graphics and watch some giant monsters get their face bashed in with a giant metal fist.:smallbiggrin:

The problem with mockbusters from the asylum is you never know when they're gonna be like that and wall to wall stupid action (Megashark vs Crocosaurus) or almost no monsters and mostly painfully bad talkie bits (megashark vs giant octopus).

Bhu
2013-05-19, 02:24 AM
I will give them props for mega pirhana. Laughed mighty hard at that one.

Kitten Champion
2013-05-19, 03:41 AM
Wow, 22 posts in and not one mention of the physics of giant robots or their practicality in fake real world combat this time.

I think this could actually be good, but trailers are just demonic these days in their insincerity. Not that the trailers are misleading, but that the movies themselves don't contain much more than that. Like watching a highlight reel for a baseball game, and forgetting the long boring bits where pitchers adjust their underwear and ponder the universe.

I guess I don't know what attitude I should bring to this movie. As much as I could criticize a Bay or Emmerich film, ya'know it's basically porn of some sort going in. Del Toro is like Spielberg, genuine entertainment can be found, but it's all over the map. So do I go into this like a Japanese Godzilla movie with intentional cheesiness being its ever-loving charm or - giant robots aside - is this going to be played straight with some hackneyed or weird bits here or there like rocket punches and Saint Crispin's day speeches?

Killer Angel
2013-05-19, 03:59 AM
AMAZING!


Wow, 22 posts in and not one mention of the physics of giant robots or their practicality in fake real world combat this time.

Good for the catgirls, isn't it?

Jayngfet
2013-05-19, 04:29 AM
At this point I find it hard to keep watching these trailers.

Not because they're bad, but because I've already maxed out how excited I can possibly be.

I mean I know that this is all amazing, and I know there's even more cool stuff we haven't seen yet. But I'm so excited already this is going to be just short of a religious experience. I literally cannot go anywhere higher on the scale and it's killing me, because I feel that the movie deserves more than I can give.

Eldan
2013-05-19, 05:23 AM
Wow, 22 posts in and not one mention of the physics of giant robots or their practicality in fake real world combat this time.

I?ll paraphrase my comment on the Youtube video. Anyone who questions the robots, but not the monsters or why we aren't actually just using conventional weapons has a really weird suspension of disbelief.

Edit: Del Toro is all over the place? I've seen four of his movies, and I loved every single one to bits.

PPS: Oh, wait, he did Blade too. Nevermind.

MLai
2013-05-19, 07:50 AM
I don't know what you're talking about. Blade was awesome. Blade II was more awesome.

Kitten Champion
2013-05-19, 08:46 AM
I thought Blade II was okay. I was disappointed with Hellboy II although it wasn't a bad movie it was lacklustre compared to the first with much of his skill pushed to the background. I found Splice to be just awkward to watch. His macabre sensibilities can occasionally be grating.

On the other hand, this is clearly a labour of love for him, he's got a quality cast to work with, and most importantly it's not another frickin' remake or adaptation eating the carrion of our nostalgia which already gives it a +3 in my books.

Still, I know a few glimpses of CGI and a cool concept don't necessarily mean anything without the sticky bits to bring them together.

JoshL
2013-05-19, 09:15 AM
He didn't direct Splice, he was one of the Executive Producers on it. See also: The Orphanage (I liked both of those films). He also only directed Blade 2, the first was done by Stephen Norrington and the third by David Goyer.

I liked Hellboy 2 more than the first, but it's a straight-up fantasy film (which is more to my tastes). The first is pretty fun too, and I really hope he gets around to the third sometime soon.

Eldan
2013-05-19, 09:53 AM
I thought Blade II was okay. I was disappointed with Hellboy II although it wasn't a bad movie it was lacklustre compared to the first with much of his skill pushed to the background. I found Splice to be just awkward to watch. His macabre sensibilities can occasionally be grating.

What. What. Hellboy 2 was one of the best movies I have ever seen in my entire life. Top five material.

Bhu
2013-05-19, 01:08 PM
According to imdb he's directed Cronos, Mimic, The Devil's Backbone, Blade II, Hellboy, Pan's Labyrtinth, Hellboy II and Pacific Rim.

Pinocchio, Crimson Peak, The Strain, The Incredible Hulk TV Series are in pre production.

Hellboy III is rumored.

He's still trying to pitch MoM

Everything else he was a producer or writer

Axolotl
2013-05-19, 02:45 PM
Ah, Pacific Rim. This might be the first big budget American movie that understands what makes the mecha genre work. I have very high hopes for this.No love for Robot Jox? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kd642Ix5ks)

Although to be frank it's not like Japan has exactly produced a plethora of great Mecha fims.

MLai
2013-05-20, 06:33 AM
Ron Perlman IS friggin' Hellboy.
I'm very glad for this guy that a "niche actor" like him found such a great mainstream starring role, and can take advantage of it through multiple movies. He seems like a nice bloke. :smallsmile:

Bhu
2013-05-20, 12:55 PM
There's a lot of low budget movies I've seen that I would have passed on if not for Ron being in them. He's a fun guy.

HandofShadows
2013-05-23, 01:38 PM
Something new that explains why two pilots are needed. :smallbiggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2rGVxfP8n4U

Mordar
2013-05-24, 07:09 PM
No love for Robot Jox? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kd642Ix5ks)

Saw it the first day it came out in theaters with a good friend (we went to something every Friday of sophomore and junior year at U of A). From that day forward, "At least it wasn't as bad as Robot Jox" became our faintest praise.

- M

Fjolnir
2013-05-24, 07:26 PM
Isn't there supposed to be a robot jox reference in this movie?

Bhu
2013-05-24, 07:33 PM
Saw it the first day it came out in theaters with a good friend (we went to something every Friday of sophomore and junior year at U of A). From that day forward, "At least it wasn't as bad as Robot Jox" became our faintest praise.

- M

There's worse films. Jurassic Shark and Snow SHark come to mind immediately.

The Glyphstone
2013-05-24, 08:53 PM
Now I wonder how they'll work the inevitable romance subplot/triangle in with the whole neural link thing.


Also, how do they keep raising the bar on the awesome factor of this movie?

Fjolnir
2013-05-24, 11:11 PM
Now I wonder how they'll work the inevitable romance subplot/triangle in with the whole neural link thing.


Quite simply, when you drift too many times with the same person there is a level of bleedover of feelings so the romantic triangle subplot comes from one person having a background with the woman while the other Remembers it and draws attachment from it...

Kitten Champion
2013-05-24, 11:17 PM
Also, how do they keep raising the bar on the awesome factor of this movie?

A good soundtrack could do it, like TTGL-level.

The Glyphstone
2013-05-25, 12:26 AM
Quite simply, when you drift too many times with the same person there is a level of bleedover of feelings so the romantic triangle subplot comes from one person having a background with the woman while the other Remembers it and draws attachment from it...

I was thinking more of the fact that the co-protagonists are going to be male+female. That has romance subplot written all over it, so I'm curious how the drifting will complicate things.

MLai
2013-05-25, 12:55 AM
Pretty boy white dude who looks like every American Hero ever, + serious-faced hot Japanese chick who looks like she stepped out of Mirror's Edge?

Naw, there's no romance here. No way. :smallamused:

Silverraptor
2013-05-25, 01:24 AM
Something new that explains why two pilots are needed. :smallbiggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2rGVxfP8n4U

I liked how Glados made a cameo in voice in that trailer.:smalltongue:

Fjolnir
2013-05-25, 02:00 PM
They also show a male pair as well...

The Glyphstone
2013-05-25, 02:02 PM
Yeah, but they're side characters. The two main characters are the whitebread dude and the Japanese girl.

MLai
2013-05-26, 12:04 AM
They also show a male pair as well...
Obviously their Drift training involved this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylv89_oCCjE

Mordar
2013-05-26, 02:32 PM
There's worse films. Jurassic Shark and Snow SHark come to mind immediately.

Ah, but were they given wide release in theaters, or just TV movies? To achieve true bomb status, someone had to think "this'll sell a lot of theater tickets!"

- M

Axolotl
2013-05-26, 02:48 PM
Saw it the first day it came out in theaters with a good friend (we went to something every Friday of sophomore and junior year at U of A). From that day forward, "At least it wasn't as bad as Robot Jox" became our faintest praise.

- MI have no idea what you're talking about, Robot Jox is a masterpiece of cinema on par with anything made by Kubrick or Fellini :smalltongue:.

Seriously it's a fun film.

Fjolnir
2013-05-26, 06:24 PM
if I recall correctly the drift they show is mostly whitebread's memories of the Japanese girl, so can you say convoluted love triangle?

Bhu
2013-05-26, 08:11 PM
Ah, but were they given wide release in theaters, or just TV movies? To achieve true bomb status, someone had to think "this'll sell a lot of theater tickets!"

- M

I think they're DTV. Damn I would hope so. I'd hate to think anyone paid more than a rental fee for those abominations. Google the trailers. Those two are so bad they'll make you nostalgic for the worst syfy originals...

Robot Jox was pretty much a DTV release as well as it had an extremely limited release in the US and overseas.

Chen
2013-05-27, 07:58 AM
I?ll paraphrase my comment on the Youtube video. Anyone who questions the robots, but not the monsters or why we aren't actually just using conventional weapons has a really weird suspension of disbelief.

Questioning the ability to build the robots, sure I'll agree with you. But questioning WHY to use robots? Yeah its not really a suspension of disbelief issue. It just seems woefully inefficient to build giant robot mechs to fight these things. Of course, it would be a much more boring movie if they took that to heart so I'm happy they're doing it anyways.

LaZodiac
2013-05-27, 10:35 AM
Questioning the ability to build the robots, sure I'll agree with you. But questioning WHY to use robots? Yeah its not really a suspension of disbelief issue. It just seems woefully inefficient to build giant robot mechs to fight these things. Of course, it would be a much more boring movie if they took that to heart so I'm happy they're doing it anyways.

True. Now, there ARE logical reasons for making the robots, but you're okay with the so I won't get into that subject again. It tends to be the deathknell of these threads :smalltongue:

KnightDisciple
2013-05-27, 01:16 PM
I was thinking more of the fact that the co-protagonists are going to be male+female. That has romance subplot written all over it, so I'm curious how the drifting will complicate things.

Well, as I understand it, Drifting basically requires a close relationship of some sort.

The original Gypsy Danger pilots were brothers.
Striker Eureka at least was a Father/Son duo.
Cherno Alpha is likely a Husband/Wife duo (THEY ARE CREDIT TO TEAM).
Crimson Typhoon is (in my theory) triplets.

So it's quite possible that the new Gypsy Danger pilots (the dude and the lady) will end up with some form of romance going on.

Of course, Stacker Pentecost (Idris Elba) is likely going to pilot something, so maybe for some people it's just being close friends. Or if it's a one-shot piloting moment, you just suck it up and don't care about sharing secrets because, hey, the whole world is on the line.

ShadowFireLance
2013-05-28, 12:08 PM
is it bad that me and my best bros are going to see it on opening day?

LaZodiac
2013-05-28, 12:16 PM
is it bad that me and my best bros are going to see it on opening day?

No, the movie is going to be fantastic :smalltongue:

Mordar
2013-05-28, 01:10 PM
Robot Jox was pretty much a DTV release as well as it had an extremely limited release in the US and overseas.

Data please? I can't seem to find release screen numbers on IMDB, and given that we saw it at a multi-plex in Tucson, AZ, and a non-major one at that, as opposed to someplace likely to get a limited run, I'd be surprised if it was really all that limited.

- M

PS: Oh, to avoid complete derail...


is it bad that me and my best bros are going to see it on opening day?

No, it would be bad if you weren't going to see it on opening day.

Bhu
2013-05-28, 02:23 PM
According to wiki it played in 333 theaters. To be considered anything other than a limited release you have to be on several thousand screens. Pirates of the Caribbean for example was on over 4000.

Limited release usually kills a films ability to make box office money unless significant word of mouth gets behind it.

Mordar
2013-05-28, 03:18 PM
According to wiki it played in 333 theaters. To be considered anything other than a limited release you have to be on several thousand screens. Pirates of the Caribbean for example was on over 4000.

Limited release usually kills a films ability to make box office money unless significant word of mouth gets behind it.

I'm very surprised (given what I mentioned about getting to see it). Even given that there were nearly twice as many screens in 2003 when Pirates hit, that it was only on 333 is pretty small. Red October debuted in 1225 theaters in 1990 and had a major push, for instance.

Interestingly, Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/robot-jox/) has RJ as a "wide" release.

- M

Bhu
2013-05-28, 04:30 PM
I never got to see it till it went to dvd.

Of course I live in Ohio so we don't see any limited releases here. When I chat with friends on the coasts they always ask if I've seen film x, and seem shocked when I tell them it isn't playing in the state at all. Location is why I get to review the dtv releases as opposed to theater releases, cause not enough stuff plays here.

I did successfully call dibs on Pacific Rim tho :D

Vaz
2013-06-01, 08:43 PM
Looking forward to seeing this. Combined with Zero Dark Thirty UK dvd release it should be an expensive but interesting week.

This year has had some cracking movies so far: les mis, hobbit, gatsby, zero dark thirty, and now this.

Axolotl
2013-06-01, 11:45 PM
After seeing several people all over the internet compare this with NGE there's a small part of me hoping it goes full EVA and the last half hour of the film is the characters trapped in mindspace psychoanalysing themselves.

The twist can be that the monsters were us all along.

Jayngfet
2013-06-02, 01:12 AM
After seeing several people all over the internet compare this with NGE there's a small part of me hoping it goes full EVA and the last half hour of the film is the characters trapped in mindspace psychoanalysing themselves.

The twist can be that the monsters were us all along.

...no. That would be awful and derivative. Even Evangelion itself can't actually do that well most of the times it's tried.

The Evangelion comparisons are largely from people who've got that as their only real Super Robot point of reference. Which means that not only are they making shoddy comparisons here, but they actually don't really understand the context of NGE itself.

MLai
2013-06-02, 02:09 AM
Which means that not only are they making shoddy comparisons here, but they actually don't really understand the context of NGE itself.
...
... Giant Kaiju fighting the Bible?

Jayngfet
2013-06-02, 03:16 AM
...
... Giant Kaiju fighting the Bible?

I meant in the context of actual other mecha series.

NGE only works if you assume it's a mecha series that takes the same basic premise used by a dozen other earlier series and uses it as a base. It takes a lot of those elements and plays with them. It can only exist because the 70's and 80's were full of super robot shows that were like it but slightly more straightforward, or did things in a less convoluted way.

Pacific Rim is based on those same original series, but instead plays with a different list of tropes it inherits from the forefathers of the super robot genre. If a classic super robot show like say, Getter Robo or Mazinger did tropes A B C and D, then Evangelion only used A and C, meanwhile Pacific rim is drawing on tropes B and D. Only after picking those tropes they built on them in their own, unique ways. They're essentially two different animals altogether that only happen to have a common ancestor, but have since differentiated almost to the point of becoming irreconcilable.

Saying Pacific Rim is like Evangelion is a lot like saying that a Bobcat is basically a Jaguar. They have a common ancestor, and they look kind of similar, but you wouldn't say they were that close unless you hadn't seen a bunch of other big cats to compare with those two. The core aspects of the two programs differ so greatly that making one into the other would just come off as forced.

Scowling Dragon
2013-06-02, 03:31 PM
don't really understand the context of NGE itself.

But who does? *rimshot*

HandofShadows
2013-06-04, 07:57 AM
Ooooh. Pacific Rim Prequal Graphic Novel

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/06/pacific-rim-graphic-novel/#slideid-145383

:smallbiggrin:

Fjolnir
2013-06-04, 08:13 AM
Have you seen the trailer with the pterosauric Kaiju dragging the jaeger through buildings? The more I see and hear about this movie, the more psyched I am to see it, but I am kind of surprised they aren't releasing it a week earlier to take advantage of the 4 day weekend, what does Warner Bros have coming out then?

Bhu
2013-06-04, 01:28 PM
July 3 wide releases are Despicable Me 2 (Universal), The Lone Ranger (Disney), and a bunch of limited release indies and documentaries