Julix
2013-05-20, 09:08 PM
I'm going lvl 3 Knife Master/Scout - Skill monkey and flanking. I rolled really well, but I'm not sure how I want to distribute that ideally.
-Rolls were 18, 16, 16, 14, 12, 10
These are my options:
Str 10, 12, 14, 16
Dex 20
Con 14, 16
Int 14, 16
Wis 10, 12, 14
Cha 12, 14, 16
I want a pet, and spent days researching how to get one and came up with some crazy options (including a wild rider or falkner dip), however most options sucked upon looking closer. 3 didn't.
2 lvl Umbral Weaver+ 3 lvl Shadowdancer -> magically prepare for the dark, magically create the dark, see in the dark, kill in the dark! --- but quite a ways away from now.
1 lvl Ranger (Trapper/Freebooter): proficiencies (kuri w/ 18-20 crit range, starknives w/ 20 ft throwing range, medium armor: attach armored kilt to my leather for +1 ac with no downsides; use a masterwork buckler for those rounds where I can't fit in the full attack); Trapfinding (for disarming magical traps, also +1 to disable device); Wild empathy and handle animal should make for easy buy animal/use well. (some other skills like Kn Geo, survival and track) I also get to point out a target (as move action) and give +1 bonus attack & dmg against said target for self and allies. Once I have my store bought critters I'd train them to flank/attack the selected target as well...
Lots of bonuses and they're all now, rather than later. OR
1 (or 2) lvl Witch for a talking UMD wielding Raven or a flank-grappling Weasel (which damages while grappling). The ranger could train weasels, but I'm not exactly sure if they'd ever hit anything, while the Weasel uses my bab! Also I'd take Prehensile Hair (grows out 10 ft, has hand's dex of 20, and int mod str of 3 - so I could punch someone in the face with my mustach or pick their pocket with my freaking hair! Disable device? With 10 ft range I could even just use it to trigger it from afar... Or Healing for healing all my critters (including 4 allies) once / day. Or Feral Speech (Su) to be able to bluff and intimidate (but sadly not diplomatize, since INT is too low) animals. Or Evil Eye for -2 to one kind of rolls for 1 enemy for 7 rounds. Or Ward for +2 AC and +2 saves for one selected ally until they get hit. With magical knack I also cast 0th and 1st spells as though I was 3rd CL.
The last option is to play it clean, and level in Rogue: scout - for the ability to sneak on charge attacks - however I don't have a way to pounce yet, so that leaves me sneak attacking with only one hand. :-(
I'm pretty sure the ranger dip will work/be worth the boni. I'm rather sure with magical knack trading 3 levels as for spell options and 1 lvl for CL for 2d8 sneak and a ****load of skill points would be worthwhile even if I like it and decide to stay a witch (when doing a coup de grace after putting someone asleep using slumber the sneak damage will make it significantly less likely that they'll pass the fortitude check.) And if I don't, extra levels in rogue will give skill points that can go in spellcraft which can be used to make scrolls of all the situationally cool spells for rather cheap.
As for traits, if I go witch (thus stick to daggers instead of kuri) I'll go River Rat (+1 damage with daggers); Or Adopted->Animal Friend (Gnome), to get handle animal as class skill and +1 to will if animal is within 30 ft ?; And Magical Knack (+2 cl).
For the Ranger Adopted->Helpful (Halfling) for +4 instead of +2 when helping; or Adopted-> Elven Reflexes for +2 Initiative - and Armor Master or Extremely Fashionable.
What do you think? If you have any better ideas of how to get a pet and be more useful (Sorcerer? Wizard? Cavalier? Alchemist?), I'd be glad to hear them!
Here's what the witch might look like
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsDvxp_JebLndGNvVjA5ME5QRFBleTAtUWlqSkViT Hc&usp=sharing
And here's a Ranger
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsDvxp_JebLndFZSV3NyYWlfODdGQWdVM3JrX2VfU 0E&usp=sharing
Some advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your time,
Julian
P.S. I thought I sent this this morning early am, but I searched the forum and can't find it, so I assume I must have closed it prematurely?
-Rolls were 18, 16, 16, 14, 12, 10
These are my options:
Str 10, 12, 14, 16
Dex 20
Con 14, 16
Int 14, 16
Wis 10, 12, 14
Cha 12, 14, 16
I want a pet, and spent days researching how to get one and came up with some crazy options (including a wild rider or falkner dip), however most options sucked upon looking closer. 3 didn't.
2 lvl Umbral Weaver+ 3 lvl Shadowdancer -> magically prepare for the dark, magically create the dark, see in the dark, kill in the dark! --- but quite a ways away from now.
1 lvl Ranger (Trapper/Freebooter): proficiencies (kuri w/ 18-20 crit range, starknives w/ 20 ft throwing range, medium armor: attach armored kilt to my leather for +1 ac with no downsides; use a masterwork buckler for those rounds where I can't fit in the full attack); Trapfinding (for disarming magical traps, also +1 to disable device); Wild empathy and handle animal should make for easy buy animal/use well. (some other skills like Kn Geo, survival and track) I also get to point out a target (as move action) and give +1 bonus attack & dmg against said target for self and allies. Once I have my store bought critters I'd train them to flank/attack the selected target as well...
Lots of bonuses and they're all now, rather than later. OR
1 (or 2) lvl Witch for a talking UMD wielding Raven or a flank-grappling Weasel (which damages while grappling). The ranger could train weasels, but I'm not exactly sure if they'd ever hit anything, while the Weasel uses my bab! Also I'd take Prehensile Hair (grows out 10 ft, has hand's dex of 20, and int mod str of 3 - so I could punch someone in the face with my mustach or pick their pocket with my freaking hair! Disable device? With 10 ft range I could even just use it to trigger it from afar... Or Healing for healing all my critters (including 4 allies) once / day. Or Feral Speech (Su) to be able to bluff and intimidate (but sadly not diplomatize, since INT is too low) animals. Or Evil Eye for -2 to one kind of rolls for 1 enemy for 7 rounds. Or Ward for +2 AC and +2 saves for one selected ally until they get hit. With magical knack I also cast 0th and 1st spells as though I was 3rd CL.
The last option is to play it clean, and level in Rogue: scout - for the ability to sneak on charge attacks - however I don't have a way to pounce yet, so that leaves me sneak attacking with only one hand. :-(
I'm pretty sure the ranger dip will work/be worth the boni. I'm rather sure with magical knack trading 3 levels as for spell options and 1 lvl for CL for 2d8 sneak and a ****load of skill points would be worthwhile even if I like it and decide to stay a witch (when doing a coup de grace after putting someone asleep using slumber the sneak damage will make it significantly less likely that they'll pass the fortitude check.) And if I don't, extra levels in rogue will give skill points that can go in spellcraft which can be used to make scrolls of all the situationally cool spells for rather cheap.
As for traits, if I go witch (thus stick to daggers instead of kuri) I'll go River Rat (+1 damage with daggers); Or Adopted->Animal Friend (Gnome), to get handle animal as class skill and +1 to will if animal is within 30 ft ?; And Magical Knack (+2 cl).
For the Ranger Adopted->Helpful (Halfling) for +4 instead of +2 when helping; or Adopted-> Elven Reflexes for +2 Initiative - and Armor Master or Extremely Fashionable.
What do you think? If you have any better ideas of how to get a pet and be more useful (Sorcerer? Wizard? Cavalier? Alchemist?), I'd be glad to hear them!
Here's what the witch might look like
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsDvxp_JebLndGNvVjA5ME5QRFBleTAtUWlqSkViT Hc&usp=sharing
And here's a Ranger
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsDvxp_JebLndFZSV3NyYWlfODdGQWdVM3JrX2VfU 0E&usp=sharing
Some advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your time,
Julian
P.S. I thought I sent this this morning early am, but I searched the forum and can't find it, so I assume I must have closed it prematurely?