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ps377
2013-05-25, 03:32 PM
im thinking about an Arcane Hierophant build.
what im i gonna post, is the main structure and im gonna fill it later (maybe with your help).

Before you say anything about "Precocious Apprentice" and "Santum Spell" or similar early entry prerequisite tricks, i shall tell you that some people dont think that "increasing the effective level of a level 1 spell" is the same as "a level 2 spell", but getting an actuall level 2 spell (like with "Precocious Apprentice" its ok), so im going with "Precocious Apprentice" for this build (or for any player with a strict dm) .

What i need from you, guys, is to tell me a) if you find this a correct main structure for the build, b) if there is a way to get this any better or c) anything else you think is usefull for this.
(btw, i love src thats why im using it..)

so, lets say im human or another (non-ugly) race that gives an extra feat at first lvl.

ECL: 1
class taken: src1
total classes: src1
feats: skill knowledge (know (arc), bluff)
BAB: 0
skills: know(arc) 4, know(nat) 0, know(rel) 0
CL: src1
pet lvl: N/A / WF lvl: N/A

ECL: 2
class taken: drd1
total classes: src1, drd1
feats: -
BAB: 0+0
skills: know(arc) 5, know(nat) 4, know(rel) 0
CL: src1, drd1
pet lvl: 1 / WF lvl: N/A

ECL: 3
class taken: drd2
total classes: src1, drd2
feats: skill knowledge (religion)
BAB: 0+1
skills: know(arc) 6, know(nat) 5, know(rel) 6
CL: src1, drd2
pet lvl: 2 / WF lvl: N/A

ECL: 4
class taken: drd3
total classes: src1, drd3
feats: -
BAB: 0+2
skills: know(arc) 7, know(nat) 6, know(rel) 7
CL: src1, drd3
pet lvl: 3 / WF lvl: N/A

ECL: 5
class taken: Mystic Theurge1 (MT1)
total classes: src1, drd3, MT1
feats: -
BAB: 0+2+0
skills: know(arc) 8, know(nat) 7, know(rel) 8
CL: src2, drd4
pet lvl: 3 / WF lvl: N/A

ECL: 6
class taken: MT2
total classes: src1, drd3, MT2
feats: (what would you suggest)
BAB: 0+2+1
skills: know(arc) 9, know(nat) 8, know(rel) 9
CL: src3, drd5
pet lvl: 3 / WF lvl: N/A

ECL: 7
class taken: MT3
total classes: src1, drd3, MT3
feats: -
BAB: 0+2+1
skills: know(arc) ..., know(nat) ..., know(rel) ... (it doesnt matter anymore)
CL: src4, drd6
pet lvl: 3 / WF lvl: N/A

ECL: 8
class taken: MT4
total classes: src1, drd3, MT4
feats: -
BAB: 0+2+2
skills: know(arc) ..., know(nat) ..., know(rel) ...
CL: src5, drd7
pet lvl: 3 / WF lvl: N/A

ECL: 9
class taken: AH1
total classes: src1, drd3, MT4, AH1
feats: (what would you suggest)
BAB: 0+2+2+0
skills: know(arc) ..., know(nat) ..., know(rel) ...
CL: src6, drd8
pet lvl: 4 / WF lvl: N/A

ECL: 10
class taken: AH2
total classes: src1, drd3, MT4, AH2
feats: -
BAB: 0+2+2+1
skills: know(arc) ..., know(nat) ..., know(rel) ...
CL: src7, drd9
pet lvl: 5 / WF lvl: 5 (like a 5 lvl drd)

ECL: 11
class taken: AH3
total classes: src1, drd3, MT4, AH3
feats: -
BAB: 0+2+2+2
skills: know(arc) ..., know(nat) ..., know(rel) ...
CL: src8, drd10
pet lvl: 6 / WF lvl: 6


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ECL: 18
class taken: AH10
total classes: src1, drd3, MT4, AH10
feats: (anything)
BAB: 0+2+2+7
skills: know(arc) ..., know(nat) ..., know(rel) ...
CL: src15, drd17
pet lvl: 13 / WF lvl: 13

ECL: 19
class taken: MT5
total classes: src1, drd3, MT5, AH10
feats: -
BAB: 0+2+2+7
skills: know(arc) ..., know(nat) ..., know(rel) ...
CL: src16, drd18
pet lvl: 13 / WF lvl: 13

ECL: 20
class taken: MT6
total classes: src1, drd3, MT6, AH10
feats: -
BAB: 0+2+3+7
skills: know(arc) ..., know(nat) ..., know(rel) ...
CL: src17, drd19
pet lvl: 13 / WF lvl: 13



so.. what do you have to say..?

FleshrakerAbuse
2013-05-25, 04:05 PM
Uh... it works, but why sorcerer instead of wizard? Plus, when you do simple build path ideas, you don't have to right it all out besides the order you take it in. Like, Sor1/Druid3/MT 4/Arcane Heirophant 10/ MT2.

A wizard class gives you higher optimization power and more spell diversity. Sure, the sorcerer is better for a blaster/repeated summoner or battlefield control... But the wizard gets better alternative class features.

ps377
2013-05-25, 05:31 PM
for spontaneous casting, arcane fusion, other only src spells and i dont remember now what else..
well, src knows less spells than wiz, but can cast more..
and i wouldnt like to have 2 prepared casters..

even if i wanted a prepared caster, i would get wu jen, for the extra metamagic at first level (i think..)