[3.5] A game which is using DandDwiki...

[GreenSerpent]

Well! Recently on my browsings of the internetz I discovered a game which is accepting players. If you want to play a LA race you can buy off the LA (up to LA +3) on a 1-for-1 basis by taking flaws from this list. (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/3.5e_Flaws) However, they MUST be justified in the backstory.

So I'm looking for some suggestions for characters using these flaws (serious and/or humorous)! Little bit of game info, it's gestalt, plane-hopping (starts in Waterdeep, can go to other settings like Grayhawk/Ravenloft) one side must be a caster/manifester and the other cannot, stats are rolled.

EDIT: And it's level 1, no evil alignment.

[Amnestic]

I'm not sure if fear of Clowns/Jesters counts as a flaw. More a natural thing.

I'd definitely consider Illiteracy. If you're in a party setting it's not a hugely big deal, even if the DM doesn't let you buy it off for two skill points :P

[eggynack]

Wow. Buying off up to three points of LA with dandwiki flaws seems like seven different kinds of broken.

[AuraTwilight]

>Game where dandwiki content is allowed.

BAIL. Just run and don't look back.

[GreenSerpent]

Welp, it turns out that there's no places left. Considering they advertised for a new player exactly 1 day ago, it looks like they just picked the first player who sent in an RTJ.

[Zombulian]

Welp, it turns out that there's no places left. Considering they advertised for a new player exactly 1 day ago, it looks like they just picked the first player who sent in an RTJ.

Eh, you're probably better off. That had the potential to get silly.

[Talya]

Eh, you're probably better off. That had the potential to get silly.

While I don't disagree with the spirit of what you're saying, let's not forget: You don't need DandDwiki to make pun-pun or the omnificer.

[GreenSerpent]

Eh, you're probably better off. That had the potential to get silly.

I was planning some rather amusing shenanigans involving an elf with Elfephobia.

[eggynack]

While I don't disagree with the spirit of what you're saying, let's not forget: You don't need DandDwiki to make pun-pun or the omnificer.
Yeah, but his game doesn't just use DanDwiki. It uses DanDwiki, and it gives those weird homebrew flaws the ability to reduce LA. That's just super weird. It's not going to make a pun-pun, but it just seems like a recipe for disaster. This is especially true if one character goes all out with a flaw buy off LA +3 race, and another character is just playing an LA +0 race.

[inuyasha]

I dont see why people dont like D&D wiki...it has some good stuff :p

[Talya]

Yeah, but his game doesn't just use DanDwiki. It uses DanDwiki, and it gives those weird homebrew flaws the ability to reduce LA. That's just super weird. It's not going to make a pun-pun, but it just seems like a recipe for disaster. This is especially true if one character goes all out with a flaw buy off LA +3 race, and another character is just playing an LA +0 race.



Yeah yeah, i'm just saying, it's a bit redundant to be playing 3.5 and suggest "This could get silly" when you start allowing bad homebrew. It can get silly just fine without the homebrew...

Now, DandDwiki's certainly not making it any better...

[AuraTwilight]

I dont see why people dont like D&D wiki...it has some good stuff :p

Much of it's good stuff is held there against the consent of content creators who don't want their stuff on that wiki. In other words, plagiarism.

And people edit SRD pages with their homebrew interpretations without marking it as such.

And there's no peer review or quality control of any kind, causing all sorts of stuff that's too overpowered or game-ruining.

And it's riddled with typos and formatting errors all over the place.

And in 2010, for about seven months there was a [N-Word] race.

[ShneekeyTheLost]

I dont see why people dont like D&D wiki...it has some good stuff :p

Scarcasm should go in blue text.

But yes, dandwiki is something best avoided. For your sanity's sake.

[TheFallenOne]

Yeah yeah, i'm just saying, it's a bit redundant to be playing 3.5 and suggest "This could get silly" when you start allowing bad homebrew. It can get silly just fine without the homebrew...

Now, DandDwiki's certainly not making it any better...

3.5 can get silly if you try hard enough or happen to grab one of the really bad things without knowing how broken it is.

That Buy-Off-LA-With-Dandwiki-Flaws houserule is inherently silly.

[Squirrel_Dude]

My god, some of these flaws

Dense (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Dense_(3.5e_Flaw)) - Oh no, i'm a fighter and wear armor with a greater penalty that that already? Does it stack?
Archaeophilia (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Archaeophilia_(3.5e_Flaw)) - My god is that overly complicated
Dracophilia (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Dracophilia_(3.5e_Flaw)) - :smalleek:
Love of Nature (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Love_of_Nature_(3.5e_Flaw)) - Play a Druid?

[3WhiteFox3]

My god, some of these flaws

Dense (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Dense_(3.5e_Flaw)) - Oh no, i'm a fighter and wear armor with a greater penalty that that already? Does it stack?
Archaeophilia (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Archaeophilia_(3.5e_Flaw)) - My god is that overly complicated
Dracophilia (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Dracophilia_(3.5e_Flaw)) - :smalleek:
Love of Nature (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Love_of_Nature_(3.5e_Flaw)) - Play a Druid?

If you think those are bad you should look at these:

Necrophilia (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Necrophilia_(3.5e_Flaw)) - Ugh. :smallyuk:
Lecherous (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Lecherous_(3.5e_Flaw)) - :smallconfused: (It also seems to mistake Charisma and attractiveness. Also, it's really badly written, if you took it by RAW you could argue that by taking the flaw makes all characters lecherous. "Whenever a character" not "Whenever a character with the lecherous flaw".)
Jiggling Ladyfolk (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Jiggling_Ladyfolk_(3.5e_Flaw)) - Tells you to make a Will Save but gives no DC.

[nyjastul69]

My god, some of these flaws

Dense (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Dense_(3.5e_Flaw)) - Oh no, i'm a fighter and wear armor with a greater penalty that that already? Does it stack?
Archaeophilia (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Archaeophilia_(3.5e_Flaw)) - My god is that overly complicated
Dracophilia (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Dracophilia_(3.5e_Flaw)) - :smalleek:
Love of Nature (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Love_of_Nature_(3.5e_Flaw)) - Play a Druid?

Well Arcaeophilia does introduce a new bonus type, the moral bonus. I'm not sure why morality plays a role here though. The formatting is absolutely terrible on DandD wiki. I can't ever get through reading any 2 or 3 items without closing the window in disgust.

[killem2]

Much of it's good stuff is held there against the consent of content creators who don't want their stuff on that wiki. In other words, plagiarism.

And people edit SRD pages with their homebrew interpretations without marking it as such.

And there's no peer review or quality control of any kind, causing all sorts of stuff that's too overpowered or game-ruining.

And it's riddled with typos and formatting errors all over the place.

And in 2010, for about seven months there was a [N-Word] race.


Yeah I agree, also, the ratio to good stuff to bad stuff is like 1:20

[RogueDM]

My first time DMing I allowed some homebrew DanDwiki content for one of my players. The Krut race and Savage class. Even after nerfing some of the Savage's fast healing it was still a game breaking class. I couldn't tell if the race was bodged because the class was just so Over-Powered.

Since then I've learned caution, like a caveman who discovered that fire burns. Whenever some asks about a homebrew class now I jump up on a table grunting and waving my arms frantically.

[Zombulian]

If you think those are bad you should look at these:

Necrophilia (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Necrophilia_(3.5e_Flaw)) - Ugh. :smallyuk:
Lecherous (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Lecherous_(3.5e_Flaw)) - :smallconfused: (It also seems to mistake Charisma and attractiveness. Also, it's really badly written, if you took it by RAW you could argue that by taking the flaw makes all characters lecherous. "Whenever a character" not "Whenever a character with the lecherous flaw".)
Jiggling Ladyfolk (http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Jiggling_Ladyfolk_(3.5e_Flaw)) - Tells you to make a Will Save but gives no DC.

Hahaha. Jiggling Ladyfolk is still there? A friend of mine wrote that Flaw within the first month of us playing D&D.

@RogueDM: I lol'd.

[big teej]

>Game where dandwiki content is allowed.

BAIL. Just run and don't look back.

there is nothing wrong with the dandwiki. my players use it constantly, it is a joyful experience. carry about your business citizen. there is no mind control

no but seriously.

my group uses the dandd wiki... the srd part...

actually it's just me, because I read the entire fething thing before I realized how problematic it was and I can find my way around it much faster than the normal srds.

the wiki/homebrew/third party stuff....

heck no.
just...
no.

[GreenETC]

Hahaha. Jiggling Ladyfolk is still there? A friend of mine wrote that Flaw within the first month of us playing D&D.

My friend actually tried to use that in a game before we understood what was wrong with DanDWiki, and it got so weird and pointless that we eventually just asked him to stop.

[Zombulian]

My friend actually tried to use that in a game before we understood what was wrong with DanDWiki, and it got so weird and pointless that we eventually just asked him to stop.

I'll inform him! That sounds hilarious.

[PersonMan]

And people edit SRD pages with their homebrew interpretations without marking it as such.

I'm curious about how one can do this when the SRD pages are edit-locked.

[Kavurcen]

My friend actually tried to use that in a game before we understood what was wrong with DanDWiki, and it got so weird and pointless that we eventually just asked him to stop.
Oh god. As the author of that flaw - I am dearly sorry. I not only had no grasp of the game, but actually left it incomplete having tried to post it on the wiki from my phone under the impression that it didn't do so successfully.

[TuggyNE]

Oh god. As the author of that flaw - I am dearly sorry. I not only had no grasp of the game, but actually left it incomplete having tried to post it on the wiki from my phone under the impression that it didn't do so successfully.

You can yet redeem yourself, perchance — purge the flaw from the wiki* and your stain will be cleansed!

:smallwink:


*I'm not actually sure whether they'd let you delete it, but I sure hope so.

[Kavurcen]

You can yet redeem yourself, perchance — purge the flaw from the wiki* and your stain will be cleansed!

:smallwink:


*I'm not actually sure whether they'd let you delete it, but I sure hope so.
That page is protected.

...what

[Tvtyrant]

Well Arcaeophilia does introduce a new bonus type, the moral bonus. I'm not sure why morality plays a role here though. The formatting is absolutely terrible on DandD wiki. I can't ever get through reading any 2 or 3 items without closing the window in disgust.

Maybe they are using moral to mean morale? William James used to use the two interchangebly in the late 19th century, so they could be using an old timey meaning. Or they simply dropped the e on accident.

[Zombulian]

That page is protected.

...what

Your stain persists, a reminder of wicked deeds long past, sins to never be forgotten...
Quickly! We must embark on a quest to understand the workings of this hellish "DanDWiki" to purge it from this world, to make sure that it never falls into an innocent's lap ever again, as it has surely done countless times by now.

But fo srs, the page is protected? From what?

[TuggyNE]

That page is protected.

...what

Ladies and gentlemen, the dandwiki.

[AuraTwilight]

I'm curious about how one can do this when the SRD pages are edit-locked.

To guests and most users, maybe. But you realize this is the wiki ruled by GreenDragon, who lets his buddies run rampant and steals content and generally doesn't give a **** for copyright law?

[nyjastul69]

Maybe they are using moral to mean morale? William James used to use the two interchangebly in the late 19th century, so they could be using an old timey meaning. Or they simply dropped the e on accident.

I should have used an emoticon or blue text or something. Sarcasm doesn't carry well through text alone.

[Raineh Daze]

It has the most fun flaw to have ever existed, though: Large Ham. :smallbiggrin:

[GreenETC]

Oh god. As the author of that flaw - I am dearly sorry. I not only had no grasp of the game, but actually left it incomplete having tried to post it on the wiki from my phone under the impression that it didn't do so successfully.

I think it was more just how he felt he needed to act with the flaws, considering he took like 3 of them. He also had Overly Loyal, so he would be in the middle of fighting and start jumping all over getting himself damaged from AoOs. He was playing an Otterling Swashbuckler war veteran, and he was always way too excited about his flaws, considering he somehow needed 4 feats at level 1 to even function.

[Tvtyrant]

I should have used an emoticon or blue text or something. Sarcasm doesn't carry well through text alone.

In retrospect I really should have picked up on the sarcasm.:smallredface: Accursed text format!