FinnLassie's Fantabulous Facade of Random Banter #194

[FinnLassie]

Hello, wee babbies
Now that life has brought you here
Greet your new thread

Haikus are quite hard
Yet I still try to do them
And it sounds stupid

You're all fantabulous! :smallbiggrin:


The Previous Random Banter can be found here:
TaiLiu's Tea-Filled Tome of Random Banter #193 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283292)

Amotis' Random Banter #1 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13484)
Dhavaer's Random Banter #2 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13401)
PhoeKun's Random Banter #3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13319)
Rei Jin's Random Banter #4 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13205)
Toxic Avenger's Random Banter #5 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13146)
Jibar's Random Banter #6 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13026)
Ego Slayer's Surrogate Random Banter #7 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12939)
Sneak's Random Barroom Brawl #8 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12918)
Sophistemon's Solemnly Random Banter #9 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12855)
Vaynor's Very Random Banter #10 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12834)
Bookman's Blathering Random Banter #11 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12809)
Gralamin's Glorious Random Banter #12 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12785)
Rilik's Resplendently Random Raillery #13 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12766)
Gezina's Growling Grazing Random Banter #14 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12747)
The Zerglings Utterly And Geeky Random Banter #15 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12740)
jaqueses Truthfully Randomly Fireside Banter # 16 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12735)
Jack Squat’s Jubilantly Quixotic Random Banter #17 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12693)
Cardel's Banter of Cookie Jubilation #18 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12668)
Archonic's Chaotically Random Banter of Rods #19 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12657)
The Rod's Inanimate Temple of RANDOM banter #20 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12638)
Lucky’s Loquaciously Loud-Mouthed Random Banter#21 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12630)
Deckmaster's Divinely Delightful Random Banter #22 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12614)
Saithis' Soliloquy of Random Banter #23 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12598)
Loveable Lianae's Ludicrous Lampooning Lottery #24 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12578)
NEO|Phyte's Neolithic Nest of Weasel Banter #25 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12544)
Target's Random Banter of "non-violence" #26 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12533)
Tarnag40k's Random banter of "grammar errors" #27 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12515)
Kyrian's Random Banter of ADHDness #28 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12507)
El Jaspero's Random Drunken Ramblings #29 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12503)
Boss Smiley's Eloquently Eggy Banter #30 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12494)
Lykan's Looney Explosionarama & Random Banter #31 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12482)
Iames's Iambic Yarn of Yammering #32 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12468)
Dispozition's Deviously Distressed Banter #33 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12458)
CP's Copiously Combusting Banter of Carnage #34 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12445)
Alarra's Altar of Random Banter #35 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12432)
Eloquent Rune's Electrifying Rambling Banter #36 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12423)
E_P's Very Own Quite Popular Random Banter #37 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12419)
Hydrogelic's Foolish Mortal Random Banter #38 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12413)
Ink's Smudgy Splotchy Random Banter #39 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12405)
Azrael's Big Black Book of Banter #40 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12397)
The Logic Vampire's Rational Random Banter #41 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12387)
Shiny's Shimmering Space-hitchin Random Banter #42 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12376)
ZombieRockStar's Random Banter #43 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12360)
Nostrabel's Realm of Cookies and Random Banter #44 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12342)
Charity's Cheery Chatter Circle #45 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12328)
Samiam's Spontaneous Scintillating Soliloquy #46 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12310)
LLama's Masked Mysterious Random Banter #47 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26599)
Ravishing Rydia's Recumbentibus ^_^ Random Banter #48 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27622)
Penguinizers Perilous Random Banter #49 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28083)
Death's delightfully morbid surrogate random banter #50 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28444)
Wayril's wonderfully weird surrogate random banter #51 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28990)
Rawhide's Deck of Random Banter (52 Cards) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29697)
Korith's Sorrogate Random Banter of Zombie Killing #53 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30353)
Surrogate thread of random Bor-dom #54 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31109)
Rex Idiotarum's Painfully Pogoing Thread #55 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31512)
The Wrath of KHAAAAAANtalas’s William Shatner Flavored Random Banter # 56 (Surrogate) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32080)
EmeraldRose's Random Banter of Lashing Wit #57 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32494)
Captain van der Decken's Surrogate Ship of Random Loot (Banter) #58 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32847)
SDF's Neverending I-Don't-Have-an-OotS-Avatar-Yet Story Banter #59 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33465)
Mauril's Surrogate Dwelf Banter of Fantasy Race Confusion 60th Edition (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34165)
Rockphed's Dice Rolling Toga Party of 61 Drunken CIA Analysts (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34568)
var Lord_Magtok = Random(Banter*62) + Surrogate (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34801)
Jibar's Retro Random Banter #63 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35014)
Malina's Random Spanish Banter #64 of morphical annoyance (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35256)
Mr. E's Random Banter #65 of Cane Toting and Hat Tipping (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35418)
Ego Slayer's Hellishly Random Banter #66.6 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35596)
Purple Gelatinous Cube o' Doom's bowl of bantery j-e-ll-o randomness #67 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35859)
Zephra's Random Banter of Ghostly Wailings, and Howling Fun#68 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36317)
Cobra Ikari's Random Banter #69 of Rampant Hugging, Guttermindedness, and ;-) Kinky. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36977)
Scorpina's Random Banter #70 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37480)
Raistlin1040's Super Special Awesome Random Banter #71(Now with 20% more tacos) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37824)
Uberblah's Random Banter #72 Of Caffeine And Sleep Deprivation Induced Randomness (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38225)
Lucky’s Random Banter #73 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38987)
Castaras's Random Banter #74 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37836)
D'anna Biers RB #75 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39495)
Zeb The Troll's RB#76 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39801)
Egdpollard's RB #77 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40128)
Gezina's and Calamity's Random banter #78 of double entendre and doom (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40410)
Random Banter #79 In Loving Memory of Hexa_Regina (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40909)
Zeratul's random banter #80 of throwing puppies off bridges (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41778)
Vespe's Random Banter #81 of singing dolphins and mostly harmless planets. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43254)
CSK's Giant in the Playground Forums Addicted Anonymous, Random Banter #82 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44919)
Iames's Ramblingly Erratic Belldandy-Charged Random Banter #83 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47592)
Serpentine's Scintillating Sensually and Sinuously Seductive Stochastic Satire #84 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49048)
Radikalskippy's Random Banter #85 of lost ideas and where to find them... (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50658)
Moon Called's Random Banter #86 of Sexy Anime Boys and Fangirl Squeals (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51825)
Lilly's Lovely Random Banter #87 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52783)
FdL's Fuzzbox-Fueled Random Banter #88 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54612)
SweetRein's Sugary Restrained Random Banter #89 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59668)
Midnight's Mutant Motorcycle Madness Random Banter #90 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62430)
Em's Extremely Extraordinarily Epic Random Banter #91 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65645)
Dragonrider's Random Banter in Conjunction with the Weighted Cube #92 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67629)
Bushranger's Bodaciously Buffed Random Banter-y Rooster #93 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69425)
Haruki's Historically Hilarious Honey-covered Random Banter #94 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71161)
North's Maple Syrup Flavored Non-Alliterative Random Banter #95 Eh? (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73464)
Wadledo's Weirdly Warbling Watercress Watching Washing Machine Only Random Banter #96 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75946)
SMEE's Random Banter #97 of gender bending and closet bursting (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78694)
Raiser's Rambunctiously Rambling Random Banter #98 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81626)
Dr. Bath's Random Banter, dripping with daring deeds of dastardly deipnosophists #99 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84068)
VOTE, the Democracy Demon's Devilishly Devious and Decidedly Diabolical Desultory Derision (Random Banter) #100 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84914)
Jack Squat's Justlessly Juxtaposed Random Banter #101 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87577)
Dallas-Dakota's Dundering Dandelion's Devilish Damsel's Distress Random Banter #102 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4790602#post4790602)
Destro Yersul's Dangerously Distracting and Doubtlessly Disturbing Random Banter #103 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4903962#post4903962)
Aziraphiles Actually Alliterative and Awesomely Affluent Random Banter #104 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92718)
Cristo's Consistently Confusing and Constantly Casual Random Banter #105 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94491)
Dish's Delightfully Deranged and Deliciously Deliquent Random Banter # 106 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95905)
Slayer's Seemingly Sweet and Socially Silly Random Banter # 107 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97703)
Zero's ambrosial and aberrantly adventitious, abstemiously erudite Random Banter #108 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99100)
Coplantor's Completely Creative Cautious and Contemplative Random Banter #109 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100414)
Rutskarn's Roly-Poly Rebellious and Rejected Random Banter #110 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101156)
TwoBitWriter's Tubular Tracts of Thought-Talking Random Banter #111 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5600540#post5600540)
Phase's Phully Phormed, Phalangeal, and Phantasmagorical Random Banter #112 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101988)
Wolfbane's Wonderfully Wacky and Wildly Wandom Random Banter #113 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102865)
The Kiwi's Kinkily Knotted and Kookily Kickass Random Banter #114 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103674)
Jude's Judgmental Jugular Jab and Jibber Jabbery Random Banter #115 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104480)
The Throne of Thufir's Thoroughly Theoretical and Therapeutic Random Banter #116 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105584)
Random Banter #117 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106698)
Dragonprime's Dynamically Dangerous Dextrous and Destructive Random Banter #118 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107882)
Farmer Felix's Fantastic FRandom FBanter #119 (may contain traces of fnuts) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109007)
Groundhog's Random Banter of Weather Prediction and Anti-Gopherness (part one) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110963&page=50)
Groundhog's Random Banter of Weather Prediction and Anti-Gopherness (part two) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113197)
Mrmud's Mixed-Up and Minimally Mechanized Random Banter #121 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114623)
Dogmantra's Dastardly, Despotic and Dangerous Random Banter #122 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116660)
Alteran's Amazingly Anachronistic, Altruistic, and Antagonistic Random Banter #123
(http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118380)Admiral Euphoria's Random Banter Thread of Delusional Grandeur #124 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6614894)
Fred's Flying Fishy, Fighting, Fiery, Fantastic Face Off Random Banter #125 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121385)
Cyrano’s Non-Alliterative Inaugurational Random Banter #126 To Usher In The Future (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122977)
Thanatos's Tharmturges Present: Tropical, Tipsy, and Typically Random Banter #127
loopy's Legendary and Long-Awaited Lollipop Fuelled Random Banter #128 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123816)
Shadow's Shady Shop of Sharks, Shingles, Shammies, Shiny and Random Banter #129 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125667)
KataraAltinaII's Premature Not So Short & To-The-Point Random Banter #130 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126557)
Supagoof's Supa-Sensational Silly Symphonies Set Sizzingly On Fire Random Banter #131 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128570)
Pyrian's Pyrotechnic Pyre of Pyrrhic Pyros with Pyrotic Pythics Random Banter #132! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130459)
Perenelle's Pleasantly Playful and Passionately Peculiar Random Banter #133 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131814)
Rpgsr4me's Ravenous, Roaring, Raging Rampage of Random Banter #134 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7373844#post7373844)
Il'deav Ilah'naie's Indiscreet Intimacies on Indigo Iceboats Random Banter #135 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134438)
Recaiden's Resplendent and Rotating Realistic Random Banter #136 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136879)
Jibar's Random Banter #137: Return of the Cat-muffin (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138879)
Edge's Effluence of Extravagant and Effulgent Random Banter #138 (”http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7876065”)
Zeb The Troll's Zecond Go At Ze Random Banter #139 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8061505&postcount=1)
Curly's Rambunctious and Erudite Random Banter #140 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148462)
Deth Muncher's Destructive and Meandering Random Banter #141 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150904)
A Thread in Which Banter Most Random is Expulsed Into Existence, By Ravens_cry #142 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8722755)
Several Silly Sealions Stuffed Seaweed Southward Swiftly (Or, Random Banter #143) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159998)
The thread that changed name one last time, with style. (Random Banter #144) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161407)
Banjo’s Bodacious & Boosted Bumper Bulletproof Box of Banter Most Random #145 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162819)
Masa's Massively Masterful Message Medium - Random Banter #146 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164224)
KuReshtin's Vociferously Ruminating Harbinger of Random Banter - #147 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166664)
Archonic's Archaic Acronymical Antidisestablishmentarianism Random Banter - #148 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169890)
Skeppio's Splendidly Strange & Superbly Scintillating Random Banter - #149 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173056)
Teddy's Turbulent and Topicless Random Banter #150 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175338)
Fifty-Eyed Fred's Ferociously Fanatical and Fabulously Fascinating Random Banter #151 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178205)
Rae's Really Rascally and Ridiculously Rowdy Random Banter #152 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181296)
Haruki's Hot n' Holy Random Banter #153 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10176275#post10176275)
MoonCat's Magnificently Mythopoeic Random Banter #154
(http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187576)Eadin's Exchange of Extraterrestrial Excuses AKA Random Banter #155 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190034)
Happy HalfTangible's Horrific Hail of Random Banter #156 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10629167#post10629167)
AtlanteanTroll's Atrocious and Terrific Arcade of Terror - RB #157 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196302)
LaLa’s Laughably Silly Random Banter Thread – RB #158 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198767)
Zaydos's Zany Zooetic Random Banter - RB #159 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200208)
Blue's Blessed and Blissful Random Banter - RB #160 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201653)
Absolmorph's Azoic Arete of Adventitious and Aimless Random Banter - RB 161 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202546)
Gwyn's Gloriously Green Garrumphing Garter of Garrulous Gabble! Random Banter #162 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203954)
Eruantion's Euphoric, Elephant-filled Elevated Epoch of Eurhythmic Random Banter #163 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205487)
ATW's Awesome Androgynous Avaricious Azure Ardent Adamant Alluvial Random Banter #164 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207269)
Cynical Avocado's Absolutely Admirable Accumulation of Random Bantering #165 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209860)
August's Pink Plushy and Phantasmagorically Random Banter Thread #166 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212011)
Heliomance's Everchanging Thread Title Random Banter #167 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213053)
Tragic_Comedian's Tremendously Tropical Random Banter #168 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215180)
Qwertystop's Quickly Quilted, Quip-filled Random Banter #169 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=217326)
Thufir's Thupremely Thatithfying Thecond Random Banter With a Lithp #170
(http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219654)Feytalist's Fantastically Freakish First Random Banter #171 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222713)
Dragonprime's Dashing Delight-fu Dazzling Dualistic Random Banter #172
Castaras' Random Banter #173: Bringing back your nostalgic Great Old Ones (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229164)
Pokemon-freak89's Random Banter number eleventy-twelve... uhh... I mean... number 174 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231235)
Dark Elf Bard's Random Banter #175:Playin' Underdark Jazz since the Drow went dark. (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235950)
Mutant Sheep's Post Septaquintaquinquecentennial ApRiL fOoLs Random Banter: #176 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238117)
Elemental's Excitingly Excellent Random Banter: No.CLXXVII (177) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13163770)
Amiel's Appeasingly Appropriate Arbitrary Amusement (Random Banter): No.CLXXVIII #178 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245179)
"Your Angel of Banter Awaits." ThePhantasm Presents Random Banter #179 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13535351)
Serpentine's Secretly Sapphic Salacious Sacrarium of Random Banter #180 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=253047)
Dimonite's Decidedly Draconic Devious Discussions: Random Banter #181 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254409)
Mercenary Pen's Meticulously Planned Machine of Prose Random Banter #182 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255754)
Mynxae's Maliciously Magnificent Random Banter #183 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257322)
Kneenibble's Knack for Knightly Knickers: a Knell for Random Banter #184 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258878)
Coid's Crowing Conundrum of a Canticle of Crookedly Random Banter #185 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=260837)
Amidus Drexel's Alliterative and Awe-Accentuating Anvil of Random Banter CLXXXVI (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262894)
Absolmorph's Awkwardly Amorous Albeit Alliterative Advances of Random Banter #187 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=265267)
Wombat's Whimsical Wonderland of Random Banter #188 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=267137)
Death's Daunting but Daring Denouement of Random Banter #189 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270487)
Dragon Eggs in Lederhosen and Burning Drakes with Random Banter (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274807)
Devmaar's Notably Unalliterative Random Banter #191 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278435)
Cuthalion's Creatively Created Cranny for Random Banter #192
TaiLiu's Tea-Filled Tome of Random Banter #193 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280998)


How To Random Banter:
Rules of the Random Banter Thread

1. Spam. For the purposes of RB, one word posts are generally considered spam. Likewise, posts that are nothing but *actions like this* are also be considered spam. Remember that the quality of the post's content is much better than the speed of your response.

2. This isn't the Play by Post or Town forum, nor is it the Silly Message Board Games or Structured Games forum. Please avoid continuous roleplay or mock battles and fights such as the "competition for control of the universe".

3. If it's already a thread, don't bring it to RB. RB has such a huge range of subject matter even restricted to the little snippets that probably don't warrant their own thread, it doesn't need legitimate thread topics cluttering it up as well. The exception to this is to bring something that is off-topic from one thread, but on-topic for RB and the subject doesn't warrant a thread of its own.

4. Don't advertise other threads in RB. Just because these new threads move at speeds more appropriate to a message board than an IM session doesn't mean you need to come over to RB and brow beat people into posting in your latest brainchild.

5. Please don't post single line posts alerting us to your current status -- as in "I'm back." This is Random Banter, not "How to stalk Random GitP forum members."

6. Don't poke, kick or bump the thread. It will move at whatever pace it wants to. Also, please refrain from Captain Obvious comments akin to "My, the thread is fast today."

7. Random Banter can only be as good, or as entertaining, as you make it. Demands to be entertained will fall on deaf ears unless you can add something more meaningful to the conversation.

8. As this is a public forum, where the current topic is nicely recorded for you, and not a conversation where you could have missed the beginning, please refrain from asking something to the effect of "What's the topic?". Please take the time to read up a bit first.

9. Thread Creator must include the words "Random" and "Banter" as well as the thread #. Try to be concise as well.

10. Every post should contain two visible, legible complete sentences, Subject and Predicate. C'mon, make your old English teachers proud.

11. Remember, Random Banter is not your IM client. If you want to have a back and forth discussion with just one person, look in their contact information for IM details.

12. Whenever a new thread is created, all "first post", "first page", and all posts of that nature will be deleted by the administrators. Please avoid doing this, as it is frustrating for them to deal with one-lined posts like this.

13. Double-posting is not your friend. We have edit buttons for a reason.

14. Once you have made a Random Banter thread, you must wait 50 threads before making another one.

15. If you can avoid dibs calling on making the next thread, that will avoid people needing to wait if the thread hits 50 pages while the dibs-caller is asleep.


Let the banter commence.

[TaiLiu]

Ah, the Russian language!

[LaZodiac]

Um, not to be a downer Debbie here, but we're supposed to wait until page 50 to make the new thread :smalltongue:

Also, don't forget to post a link to the new thread in the old one.

[FinnLassie]

Um, not to be a downer Debbie here, but we're supposed to wait until page 50 to make the new thread :smalltongue:

Also, don't forget to post a link to the new thread in the old one.

Gah. Agh. Poo. Sorry. =(

*dies of shame*

I always manage to fail something when I try to do something big and fantabulous.

[TaiLiu]

Um, not to be a downer Debbie here, but we're supposed to wait until page 50 to make the new thread :smalltongue:
Close enough!

[Elemental]

It's preferable to create the new thread when we have a person capable of creating one still around rather than sitting on page fifty faced with such uncertainty.

[LaZodiac]

Gah. Agh. Poo. Sorry. =(

*dies of shame*

I always manage to fail something when I try to do something big and fantabulous.

No no no no, it's okay, it's okay! I didn't mean to deflate you like that!

*puts pump in your mouth and reflates you with a bycicle pump*

[TaiLiu]

No no no no, it's okay, it's okay! I didn't mean to deflate you like that!

*puts pump in your mouth and reflates you with a bycicle pump*
Ah! Be careful with that!

[factotum]

Ah! Be careful with that!

Yeah--have you never seen a Looney Tunes cartoon? She'll be floating off over the houses before you know it! :smallbiggrin:

[LaZodiac]

Yeah--have you never seen a Looney Tunes cartoon? She'll be floating off over the houses before you know it! :smallbiggrin:

Right, sorry guys :smallbiggrin:

[DJ Yung Crunk]

Country is emo with less class. Or watered down pop. Or Bruce Springsteen. Or Pete Singer. Or the original version of house of the rising sun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwAw9ThDQmk) before we made it rock. Totally disregards it roots so you have to progressively move to folk and bluegrass and then increasingly fringe elements of those so that you can avoid the tide of pop in those over-genre. :smallyuk: So, sure, give me any country before about 1970, any folk or bluegrass before 2000 or so.:

You're certainly free to like and dislike what you want, that's fine, but I'm not entirely sure I buy the reasoning here. In two cases you seem to be operating on the layman's perception of the genre rather than the actual definition. Emo, for instance. I get the implication that you think it's merely defined as "sad rock music" which just isn't true. "Emo" is rather strictly a punk subgenre with its own fairly defined set of sounds, compositions, performing styles and, yes, lyrics. It, as well as its subtype "screamo", has been misappropriated in recent years because, well, the names can easily be misinterpreted. To combat that this, however, people have been using alternate names to avoid confusion (midwest emo for emo and skramz for screamo) so I guess I really can't blame you for the confusion. Still, the more you know, right? You can hear the midwest emo sound in groups like Snowing, Sunny Day Real Estate, The World Is A Beautiful Place & I Am No Longer Afraid to Die, Texas is the Reason and American Football. I bring this up because comparing emo to country strikes me as a bit silly.

I'm not going to try to claim a lot of country isn't trash, because that's true. It's also true of practically all other genres, but I digress. I do resent the implication that the bulk of country is watered down pop. If anything contemporary country (that's "since the late 60s") owes more to the then burgeoning rock and contemporary folk scenes. Its roots may be in Americana and bluegrass, sure, but it can't be compared to those anymore. It's simply on another level. I won't deny a lot of these contemporary country artists use pop compositions because that's pretty blatantly true, but c'mon dude, the end of rock most people are familiar with use those exact same compositions. So it's hardly a localized thing. It's not even that bad a thing. I don't buy this premise that featuring pop hooks and melodies immediately cheapens your music and it's a premise that, unless I'm reading you wrong, you seem to believe in, yourself (unless you clicked the smallyuk emote by mistake.) Good country rock isn't some elusive myth, it's freaking everywhere. Lucinda Williams, Merle Haggard, Gram Parsons, Flying Burrito Brothers, Emmylou Harris, Townes Van Zandt, Dwight Yoakam, John Prine, Iris DeMent, Wilco, Guy Clark, Dolly Parton. And those are just some of the obvious ones. Get back to me.

EDIT: I like music. Not sure if you guys picked up on that yet

[Amidus Drexel]

Hehehe I'm up three hours earlier than usual...*grins like an idiot*

SLEEP DEPRIVATION PARTY! :smallcool:
I apologize in advance for anything Amidus does under this condition.



I suppose that's true. But I think the amount in question would be too insignificant for a visual sign of corrosion.

Nah... Sugar doesn't work unless I stay up late. And then I still don't get worked up about things. Though I will confess that recently, I've had to correct myself before saying certain things. Not that anyone else would consider them bad language.

But without the river, we can't sail a funerary fleet of gilded ships!
Fine, we'll haul you there in a jewelled crystal coffin pulled by a herd of a hundred black horses.


Hrm... I wonder how much we'd need to get it to work...

Caffeine, then?

That will be an acceptable substitute. :smallcool:



Just wait until wildlife groups get bored and decide to reintroduce them. Personally, I think that's one of the better uses of boredom I can think of.


Indeed. Granted, most of the people around here would have a problem with that, I'd think, on account of them needing to eat something, and the options being the deer they hunt and their livestock.



I'm not going to try to claim a lot of country isn't trash, because that's true. It's also true of practically all other genres, but I digress. I do resent the implication that the bulk of country is watered down pop. If anything contemporary country (that's "since the late 60s") owes more to the then burgeoning rock and contemporary folk scenes. Its roots may be in Americana and bluegrass, sure, but it can't be compared to those anymore. It's simply on another level. I won't deny a lot of these contemporary country artists use pop compositions because that's pretty blatantly true, but c'mon dude, the end of rock most people are familiar with use those exact same compositions. So it's hardly a localized thing. It's not even that bad a thing. I don't buy this premise that featuring pop hooks and melodies immediately cheapens your music and it's a premise that, unless I'm reading you wrong, you seem to believe in, yourself (unless you clicked the smallyuk emote by mistake.) Good country rock isn't some elusive myth, it's freaking everywhere. Lucinda Williams, Merle Haggard, Gram Parsons, Flying Burrito Brothers, Emmylou Harris, Townes Van Zandt, Dwight Yoakam, John Prine, Iris DeMent, Wilco, Guy Clark, Dolly Parton. And those are just some of the obvious ones. Get back to me.

EDIT: I like music. Not sure if you guys picked up on that yet

The thing is, what most people hear of country (and indeed, this goes for most genres) is the watered-down trashy stuff. You're a big fan of hip-hop and (to a certain degree) pop, and so the bad country songs that have influence from those genres (and there are a lot of those) don't bother you as much as they would someone else. There is good country music around, but it's not always easy to sift through the crap to get to it, especially to someone who's largely unfamiliar with the genre post-1960. Of the artists you listed, for example, I've only heard of five of them, and I'm only really familiar with the music of three of them. (and it disappoints me greatly that "Good Country Rock" in your mind doesn't include Lynyrd Skynyrd. (although they probably lean much closer to rock than to country)).

I feel like we could have an interesting discussion on music... maybe 5:30am isn't the best time, though. :smallamused:

[DJ Yung Crunk]

(and it disappoints me greatly that "Good Country Rock" in your mind doesn't include Lynyrd Skynyrd. (although they probably lean much closer to rock than to country)).

Lynyrd Skynyrd is rather blatantly southern rock. The instrumentation can line up with country from time to time but it's closer to blues rock than anything. With that being said, Coidzor, Bruce Springsteen isn't country either. No, not even Nebraska.

EDIT:


You're a big fan of hip-hop and (to a certain degree) pop, and so the bad country songs that have influence from those genres (and there are a lot of those) don't bother you as much as they would someone else.

I have no idea what you're saying, here.

[Duck999]

Just out of curiosity, what happens if someone gets ninja'd making a new random banter thread?

Anyone here enjoy words that are not known very well?
Ex:
Discombobulated-Confused
defenestration-the act of throwing someone or something out ofna window

I have discombobulated so many people b6 using the word defenestration.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Hehehe I'm up three hours earlier than usual...*grins like an idiot*

SLEEP DEPRIVATION PARTY! :smallcool:
I apologize in advance for anything Amidus does under this condition.

Zoids! You too? Oh man, sleep came desparagingly late last night... :smallsigh: (yawning)

I think I may need to shave my luxorious beard soon. :smallfrown: It's so hot that its becoming uncomfortable for sleepy-times...

Edit:

Just out of curiosity, what happens if someone gets ninja'd making a new random banter thread?

Anyone here enjoy words that are not known very well?
Ex:
Discombobulated-Confused
defenestration-the act of throwing someone or something out ofna window

I have discombobulated so many people b6 using the word defenestration.

See thread #150 for details. All multiples get merged with the first one to be posted. Becomes even more random looking than usual.

[Qwertystop]

Wow, we're getting close to 200!

Was anything done for 100?

[Dimonite]

Gah. Agh. Poo. Sorry. =(

*dies of shame*

I always manage to fail something when I try to do something big and fantabulous.

Oh relax. At the post rate we had after it hit midnight here, you wouldn't have necessarily been around to do the job when it hit page 50. You did fine.


*music stuff snipped for length*
EDIT: I like music. Not sure if you guys picked up on that yet

You? Like music? I hadn't noticed at all. I'm shocked! :smalltongue:
But personally, I mostly listen to jazz and classical and stuff that came out before I was born, because most modern music just doesn't sound as good to me. Except for Pentatonix, of course.


Just out of curiosity, what happens if someone gets ninja'd making a new random banter thread?


The ensuing Doom Singularity would devour us all.



Anyone here enjoy words that are not known very well?
Ex:
Discombobulated-Confused
defenestration-the act of throwing someone or something out ofna window

I have discombobulated so many people b6 using the word defenestration.

Word-hipster. :smalltongue:
But no, I love that. Although I prefer words like sesquipedalian, or pleonasm - words that have to do with words.

[LaZodiac]

Everyone who is a musician should have the same power that this lady (http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18pdak3zu5vcdjpg/k-bigpic.jpg)has.

[DJ Yung Crunk]

because most modern music just doesn't sound as good to me.

Hmm... Such as?

[TheWombatOfDoom]

All this talk of music and nobody is Boogie-ing! :smalltongue:

*Boogies*

In continuance of last thread, I'm mostly into anything that sounds good to me. That can be in guilty pleasures, or commonly liked material. I try not to limit myself to genre's because I'm always plesantly surprised by something. Commonly though, I tend to dislike staple country (i lost my tractor, girlfriend or car) and crude rap (do I really need to make an example??).

[DJ Yung Crunk]

I tend to dislike crude rap (do I really need to make an example??).

No one could really blame you for disliking music that actively offends you. That's perfectly understandable. So this next comment isn't about you, so much, as it's more of a general statement.

I resent the notion that music that doesn't pass some vague idealogical purity test is "bad". But again, you said "I don't like" so I can hardly pin that one on you. No hard feelings, I promise.

[LaZodiac]

I think the issue is that, due to American Idol, a LOT of modern songs are slow, pop love songs. And there is only so many ways you can say "I wanna love you" with an auto tuned voice before It starts getting 1: annoying, and 2: boring.

[Dimonite]

Hmm... Such as?

Well, a lot of rap is crude and/or meaningless drivel, your average country song has about as much melodic complexity as a bar of soap, and pop - while occasionally enjoyable - is the junk food of music. My distaste for metal and hard rock is more difficult to explain, but still there.

[LaZodiac]

Well, a lot of rap is crude and/or meaningless drivel, your average country song has about as much melodic complexity as a bar of soap, and pop - while occasionally enjoyable - is the junk food of music. My distaste for metal and hard rock is more difficult to explain, but still there.

I can think of a reason you wouldn't like metal and hard rock. Screamo style music.

[Dimonite]

Zodi is too much of a ninja...


I think the issue is that, due to American Idol, a LOT of modern songs are slow, pop love songs. And there is only so many ways you can say "I wanna love you" with an auto tuned voice before It starts getting 1: annoying, and 2: boring.

Hey, don't you be hatin' on Idol. I mean, I haven't watched it since Casey Abrams was eliminated two seasons ago, but they produced some quality musicians - such as Casey Abrams.


I can think of a reason you wouldn't like metal and hard rock. Screamo style music.

Well, that is part of it.

[LaZodiac]

Zodi is too much of a ninja...

Hey, don't you be hatin' on Idol. I mean, I haven't watched it since Casey Abrams was eliminated two seasons ago, but they produced some quality musicians - such as Casey Abrams.

Well, that is part of it.

Well yes, I am infact a ninja.

I'm not hating on Idol, I'm hating on the people who constantly gush over the slow ass love songs. Give me some Under Pressure, some We Will Rock You, give me anything that has a melody faster then the dreck Justin Beibar keeps crapping out. I want songs that get my blood pumping.

Also, I should note that it's often the people who are on Idol that lose that go on to MAKE songs that are kind of like how I like them (like Chris Dawhtry or whoever you spell his country ass name).

[DJ Yung Crunk]

I think the issue is that, due to American Idol, a LOT of modern songs are slow, pop love songs. And there is only so many ways you can say "I wanna love you" with an auto tuned voice before It starts getting 1: annoying, and 2: boring.

Modern pop songs you mean. With the rise of indie labels and the focus on sites likes bandcamp and soundcloud pop is becoming an increasingly smaller and less relevant aspect of the experience. Even then I'm not sure I can hear this inlfux of pop ballads you do. I don't follow Top 40, usually, but the most recent one I can recall is Justin Timberlake's "Suit and Tie" which was hardly ballad-y.


Well, a lot of rap is crude and/or meaningless drivel

Eh... for my thoughts on this refer to;


I resent the notion that music that doesn't pass some vague idealogical purity test is "bad".



your average country song has about as much melodic complexity as a bar of soap, and pop - while occasionally enjoyable - is the junk food of music. My distaste for metal and hard rock is more difficult to explain, but still there.

Sure I can't dispute the simplicity of country but, really, it's taking after its rock and Americana predecessors in that regard. Rock, at least mainstream rock, has hardly broken down walls as far as compositional strength goes.


I can think of a reason you wouldn't like metal and hard rock. Screamo style music.

Do you mean; "screamo" the emo subgenre or "screamo" any heavy rock music with screamed vocals.

[LaZodiac]

Modern pop songs you mean. With the rise of indie labels and the focus on sites likes bandcamp and soundcloud pop is becoming an increasingly smaller and less relevant aspect of the experience. Even then I'm not sure I can hear this inlfux of pop ballads you do. I don't follow Top 40, usually, but the most recent one I can recall is Justin Timberlake's "Suit and Tie" which was hardly ballad-y.

Do you mean; "screamo" the emo subgenre or "screamo" any heavy rock music with screamed vocals.

Well the issue there is that it's by Justin Timberlake. And modern Justin Timberlake is, atleast if I recall, is kind of stupid as hell and I don't like it.

I'm talking about the screamed vocals style. If I was talking about emo sub genre I'd go Scremo, since that's a typo that gets the point across :smallbiggrin:

[Socratov]

So, um, announcement, I have just made another one of my fabulous chocolate and cake tiramisu's (the recipe is loosely bad on Tiramisu and pretty much a guarantee to contract obesity, if only it didn't taste as godly as it does). Now to wait for a day and then it should be good for stuffing people at my B-day party tomorrow. :smallcool:

[AsteriskAmp]

You? Like music? I hadn't noticed at all. I'm shocked! :smalltongue:
But personally, I mostly listen to jazz and classical and stuff that came out before I was born, because most modern music just doesn't sound as good to me. Except for Pentatonix, of course.By classical you mean chamber or academic music or strictly referring to the classical period?

Also; there is such a thing as modern jazz and neoclassical as well as modern classical composition.

Everyone who is a musician should have the same power that this lady (http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18pdak3zu5vcdjpg/k-bigpic.jpg)has.You can have the exact same effect if you play "Friday" with any instrument (CAUTION: Burn instrument afterwards.)

[LaZodiac]

You can have the exact same effect if you play "Friday" with any instrument (CAUTION: Burn instrument afterwards.)

Well yes but I want to knock people off the ground with GOOD music, I don't want to be a musical murderer :smalltongue:

[Coidzor]

You're certainly free to like and dislike what you want, that's fine, but I'm not entirely sure I buy the reasoning here. In two cases you seem to be operating on the layman's perception of the genre rather than the actual definition. I was mixing my metaphors a bit, I admit.


Emo, for instance. I get the implication that you think it's merely defined as "sad rock music" which just isn't true. "Emo" is rather strictly a punk subgenre with its own fairly defined set of sounds, compositions, performing styles and, yes, lyrics. It, as well as its subtype "screamo", has been misappropriated in recent years because, well, the names can easily be misinterpreted.

I was mostly using it to highlight the disgust some people have for the content and the singers as a result. Though, I admit, songs which make out the artist to be a pathetic waste of manflesh do tend to make me dislike the group as feeling, well, pathetic and kind of shilly.


To combat that this, however, people have been using alternate names to avoid confusion (midwest emo for emo and skramz for screamo) so I guess I really can't blame you for the confusion. Still, the more you know, right? You can hear the midwest emo sound in groups like Snowing, Sunny Day Real Estate, The World Is A Beautiful Place & I Am No Longer Afraid to Die, Texas is the Reason and American Football. I bring this up because comparing emo to country strikes me as a bit silly.

Well, it definitely was intended to be a bit silly. :smallwink:

Neat bit of info, thank you, though I think I'm going to stay away from skramz since I still associate that area of music with an ex and don't really like scream-singing as a sound. Mostly makes me feel sympathy pains in my throat. :smallsigh:


I'm not going to try to claim a lot of country isn't trash, because that's true. It's also true of practically all other genres, but I digress. I do resent the implication that the bulk of country is watered down pop.

Most of what I've encountered coming out of Nashville feels like pop rock that's wearing the skinned corpse of Country music tropes like some kind of macabre monster. Worse though is that it's felt forced, and I've got this weird notion that if it can't feel authentic, at least impress me with how artfully you're being artificial.

Granted, this might be due to a semi-personal vendetta against the city of Nashville. ...It's complicated and silly, I know...


Good country rock isn't some elusive myth, it's freaking everywhere. Lucinda Williams, Merle Haggard, Gram Parsons, Flying Burrito Brothers, Emmylou Harris, Townes Van Zandt, Dwight Yoakam, John Prine, Iris DeMent, Wilco, Guy Clark, Dolly Parton. And those are just some of the obvious ones. Get back to me.

I guess I could stand to check out any group named the Flying Burrito Brothers. :smallamused:

I seem to be one of the only people on the planet who isn't as fond of Dolly Parton though. :smallconfused: I just don't understand why everyone loves her.


EDIT: I like music. Not sure if you guys picked up on that yet

We gathered. :smallwink:


Lynyrd Skynyrd is rather blatantly southern rock. The instrumentation can line up with country from time to time but it's closer to blues rock than anything. With that being said, Coidzor, Bruce Springsteen isn't country either. No, not even Nebraska.

You caught me out. I mostly threw his name out there to round out the numbers. <_< >_>


I think I may need to shave my luxorious beard soon. :smallfrown: It's so hot that its becoming uncomfortable for sleepy-times...

Make sure you at least get pics first. :smallfrown:


I think the issue is that, due to American Idol, a LOT of modern songs are slow, pop love songs. And there is only so many ways you can say "I wanna love you" with an auto tuned voice before It starts getting 1: annoying, and 2: boring.

what what what what what what what what?

[TheWombatOfDoom]

No one could really blame you for disliking music that actively offends you. That's perfectly understandable. So this next comment isn't about you, so much, as it's more of a general statement.

I resent the notion that music that doesn't pass some vague idealogical purity test is "bad". But again, you said "I don't like" so I can hardly pin that one on you. No hard feelings, I promise.

None taken! Just because I don't enjoy something, doesn't mean I think it is bad. Many rap songs I find crude I enjoy the non lyric portions to. I often find myself humming tunes that I'd rather not sing the words to, because I like them on a beat and or music basis. Similarly, I like some non-rap songs lyrics, but not the musical portion. A good mix of both is what I look for. And I don't really get that in any one genre consistantly.

[LaZodiac]

what what what what what what what what?

I'm fed up with all these talent shows showing people singing slow ass love songs, if what I mean.

[DJ Yung Crunk]

Well the issue there is that it's by Justin Timberlake. And modern Justin Timberlake is, atleast if I recall, is kind of stupid as hell and I don't like it.

Not really the point. I was just saying I don't think ballads have a monopoly in the top 40. That was just one example.


I'm talking about the screamed vocals style. If I was talking about emo sub genre I'd go Scremo, since that's a typo that gets the point across :smallbiggrin:

Fair enough. But expect pedantic people like myself to try to "correct" your spelling.


None taken! Just because I don't enjoy something, doesn't mean I think it is bad. Many rap songs I find crude I enjoy the non lyric portions to. I often find myself humming tunes that I'd rather not sing the words to, because I like them on a beat and or music basis. Similarly, I like some non-rap songs lyrics, but not the musical portion. A good mix of both is what I look for. And I don't really get that in any one genre consistantly.

Hmm... Have you ever considered instrumental hip hop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nurwPTUD3nU)?

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Make sure you at least get pics first. :smallfrown:


Oh! Good idea. Maybe I'll actually get the gumption and bravery to post it on the "Pictures of You" thread....

[Coidzor]

I'm fed up with all these talent shows showing people singing slow ass love songs, if what I mean.

:smalltongue:


Well yes but I want to knock people off the ground with GOOD music, I don't want to be a musical murderer :smalltongue:

Sure thing, Midvalley the Hornfreak. :smalltongue:


Oh! Good idea. Maybe I'll actually get the gumption and bravery to post it on the "Pictures of You" thread....

yay!

[LaZodiac]

Not really the point. I was just saying I don't think ballads have a monopoly in the top 40. That was just one example.

Fair enough. But expect pedantic people like myself to try to "correct" your spelling.

Must just be me then, since I'm rarely hearing anything but slow ass love songs. I do know that there are some good songs out there though.

[DJ Yung Crunk]

Must just be me then, since I'm rarely hearing anything but slow ass love songs. I do know that there are some good songs out there though.

For the record though the new Justin Timberlake LP is terrific (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWd4BJRExNw) and you should listen to it and oh my god it's so good and wow and thank you basedgod...

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Hmm... Have you ever considered instrumental hip hop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nurwPTUD3nU)?

Oh! Good point. I do like things that separate the two as well. IE: Poetry, or instumental things. I approve of your link in any case. :smallsmile:

Edit: Further, just because I don't like something doesn't mean I consider it bad. I know that seems like a lame, non commital answer, but I've generally gone through life trying not to box my preferences in a package. I'm the guy that likes getting a lot of things on a sundae.

I'll take a little of this...and some of that....oh and I love having that...and before I know it I have a tasty mess that doesn't always go together, but so long as I enjoy it, it doesn't matter.

[LaZodiac]

For the record though the new Justin Timberlake LP is terrific (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWd4BJRExNw) and you should listen to it and oh my god it's so good and wow and thank you basedgod...

It's interesting, and I can see why people would like it, but I don't think this song is exaaactly to my tastes. It is good though!

An example (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes) of some (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnI_5i9EUg4&list=FLeF_AIiL1XKptKqDOtjK3bg&index=5)songs that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O8e2hMAL6c&list=FLeF_AIiL1XKptKqDOtjK3bg&index=9)I like. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0h2u87JwyA&list=FLeF_AIiL1XKptKqDOtjK3bg&index=12)

Every two words is a new link.

[DJ Yung Crunk]

Oh! Good point. I do like things that separate the two as well. IE: Poetry, or instumental things. I approve of your link in any case. :smallsmile:

I'm glad. Instrumental hip hop is pretty diverse. You could go to, say, Nujabes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWTbVGJTZsA) for something jazzy. You could check out some trap in the style of TNGHT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pXIhCUu584) if you're in a grimy EDM sorta mood. Maybe if you want some tricky turntablism you can check out some of DOOM's instrumental stuff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gpabJMo0oE).


An example of some songs I like

You and I are very different people. And that's fine. Don't think I've been trying to push my tastes on you guys or nothing.

[LaZodiac]

You and I are very different people. And that's fine. Don't think I've been trying to push my tastes on you guys or nothing.

I'm not thinking that, just sharing :smallbiggrin:

[DJ Yung Crunk]

But personally, I mostly listen to jazz and classical and stuff that came out before I was born

This is just a rough list, you understand, but I hope you find something here to your tastes. All of these examples are from the 2010s.

Contemporary Classical: I picked some pretty "easy" examples. The bulk of contemporary classical, at least the contemporary classical that I listen to, tends to be much more abstract. Ever heard of musique concrete? It's a funny story.
Ólafur Arnalds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5AOaKmIpJs)
Max Richter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Kybxu7fiQ)
Arvo Part (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuaqTtyX23Q)
Dustin O'Halloran (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNG7G9l3H0c)

Jazz: Kind of a vague term so I just included a whole set of subtypes. Hope you find something to your liking.
Matthew Halsall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xg15INEjFQ)
The Hypnotic Brass Ensemble (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWjupXpntHU)
BADBADNOTGOOD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIvmwIyynbo) (last I checked their albums were legally free)
Wyatt, Atzmon & Stephen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAYK1RHpDLE)

Plenty more where that came from, by the way. Those were just off the cuff examples I had rattling around my brain.

[Kneenibble]

Must just be me then, since I'm rarely hearing anything but slow ass love songs. I do know that there are some good songs out there though.

Mmmmm.... slow ass-love. ...songs.

[LaZodiac]

Mmmmm.... slow ass-love. ...songs.

Hahahahaha, oh Kneenibble :smallamused:

[Finlam]

Mmmmm.... slow ass-love. ...songs.


http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQepvvc0zt29xv6BXU4maYOE5QW34I-WOavop1uWlpnx0gRePHz

[mistformsquirrl]

George Takei = Wins at everything. >.> Even things he isn't trying to win at.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

George Takei = Wins at everything. >.> Even things he isn't trying to win at.

He's the Chuck Norris of winning!

[DJ Yung Crunk]

He's the Chuck Norris of winning!

Did you listen to my other examples?

[Teddy]

I'm not too keen on blackberries. I dunno, they're not that common in Finland. I've done some bramble tasting here in Scotland, but my favourite berries are blackcurrant and redcurrant. Nom. My gran makes the best juice out of them!

Blackcurrant is pretty lame when eaten raw, but blackcurrant cordial is simply unsurpassed. It produces good jam too, but nothing beats cloudberry when it comes to jam.


Hehehe I'm up three hours earlier than usual...*grins like an idiot*

SLEEP DEPRIVATION PARTY! :smallcool:
I apologize in advance for anything Amidus does under this condition.

May the food-deprived join in too?


Wow, we're getting close to 200!

Was anything done for 100?

Judging from the archive, yes. There seems to be a seldom seem voting demon who was brought out just for the purpose of creating it. And I've heard the mods plan something for the 200th iteration too...


It's interesting, and I can see why people would like it, but I don't think this song is exaaactly to my tastes. It is good though!

An example (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes) of some (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnI_5i9EUg4&list=FLeF_AIiL1XKptKqDOtjK3bg&index=5)songs that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O8e2hMAL6c&list=FLeF_AIiL1XKptKqDOtjK3bg&index=9)I like. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0h2u87JwyA&list=FLeF_AIiL1XKptKqDOtjK3bg&index=12)

Every two words is a new link.

I'm pretty sure the first one has brushed past the top top of top 40 at least around these parts. Not that I've heard the top 40 in eternities, but judging from it's play rate on the radio, I'm pretty sure it has to be true...

ION:
Adrenalin programming is fun. For the record, adrenalin programming is what I call it when you strive to achieve flow by disregarding such elemental survival habits such as eating or sleeping, and strangely enough, it works really well, especially when you're reaching your limit and your body is pumping with adrenalin.

Today, I only skipped the lunch. There wasn't really any need for staying past dinner, because I actually managed to root out all remaining confirmed bugs in the investor code, making it run smoothly and my little investors filthy rich in the process. There may still be a bug left which causes goods to disappear and reappear at random intervals, but then again, without the GUI up and running, I lack a good overview of what actually is going on, and it may very well be entirely natural mechanisms causing it but which I can't see from my rather concrete viewpoint.

Also, it's funny when I name my investors after my online aliases, and the only way to make them print out their data is by crashing them horribly. You have no idea of how many times "teddy" has gotten the message "die" today. :smallwink:

[LaZodiac]

Adrenalin programming is fun. For the record, adrenalin programming is what I call it when you strive to achieve flow by disregarding such elemental survival habits such as eating or sleeping, and strangely enough, it works really well, especially when you're reaching your limit and your body is pumping with adrenalin.

Today, I only skipped the lunch. There wasn't really any need for staying past dinner, because I actually managed to root out all remaining confirmed bugs in the investor code, making it run smoothly and my little investors filthy rich in the process. There may still be a bug left which causes goods to disappear and reappear at random intervals, but then again, without the GUI up and running, I lack a good overview of what actually is going on, and it may very well be entirely natural mechanisms causing it but which I can't see from my rather concrete viewpoint.

Also, it's funny when I name my investors after my online aliases, and the only way to make them print out their data is by crashing them horribly. You have no idea of how many times "teddy" has gotten the message "die" today. :smallwink:

That sounds unsafe, but then I usually get by on playing video games instead of eating sometimes, so there you go :smalltongue:

Also, good job on your programming stuff! And that's a silly thing with the "teddy die" thing.

[mistformsquirrl]

Argleblargle, I need to be drawing, instead I'm just flittering around the forums even though it's kind of a slow day <>,<>

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Did you listen to my other examples?

I shall when I arrive home! Currently am not in a place I can. :smallwink:

[Coidzor]

Teddy: Have I ever mentioned that Cloud Berries sound like something that should be from the fantasy-version of Tibet?

Maybe Skyrim too...


Argleblargle, I need to be drawing, instead I'm just flittering around the forums even though it's kind of a slow day <>,<>

Draw something forumish, then. :smallwink:

[DJ Yung Crunk]

Yo, Coid.

Flying Burrito Brothers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWjGtEmQ5Co)?

[Taet]

That's just complex enough to be delightful. I tried to count the guitars and came up one short.

And the painted jackets are pretty, but I already had a liking for those. Look at this modern one (http://www.flickr.com/photos/miss_jess/8538046246/), it's like a painting you can wear!

[mistformsquirrl]

Currently got This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qztch6_Uhuk) going through my head. < . .> That movie was awesome (just saw it two days ago for the first time); and I like the cover.

[Teddy]

Hey, Havvy, Crunk, I started listening to those contemporary classicals you linked, and I must say I like what I've heard so far (currently on Arvo Pärt, which may be a bit slow for my tastes, but I've only gotten halfway yet). A lot. Especially the Max Richter one. The ending almost had me cry.


That sounds unsafe, but then I usually get by on playing video games instead of eating sometimes, so there you go :smalltongue:

Yeah, it's not something I strive to do a lot, but sometimes every now again gives a great kick in terms of programming efforts.

Also, good job on your programming stuff! And that's a silly thing with the "teddy die" thing.[/QUOTE]

Technically "teddy ! die.", but yeah, and it gets even more macabre when you start to imagine the crash logs as autopsy reports. I kill my online aliases so I can dissect them and see what they contain! :smalleek::smallwink:


Teddy: Have I ever mentioned that Cloud Berries sound like something that should be from the fantasy-version of Tibet?

Maybe Skyrim too...

No, but I can't do anything but concur wholeheartedly. It's the best name ever. Did I tell you that "cloudberry" is basically one of my favourite words in English?

[DJ Yung Crunk]

Hey, Havvy, Crunk, I started listening to those contemporary classicals you linked, and I must say I like what I've heard so far (currently on Arvo Pärt, which may be a bit slow for my tastes, but I've only gotten halfway yet). A lot. Especially the Max Richter one. The ending almost had me cry.

I'm glad you liked. If you ever need any more just hit me up, I got pages of those.

[Kneenibble]

Holy cheesy pasta, at 22? Man, I'm somewhere around that and I can't even think about anything else but getting a motorcycle before turning 30. But when I do buy a house, it'll be my dream. Well, I'll either buy a house to renovate or build one from scratch, and if it's a house to renovate there needs to be enough space for a sauna, or at least the possibility to build an expansion.

I know you'll realize this dream one day: you'll have a birch tree in the garden full of fluffy chickadees and a sauna fragrant with cedar. Or whatever material a Finn likes for sauna. I believe in you!


There's other things that worry my mind even though they shouldn't, really. In my culture, well, not the nation I come from but more of the social culture, everyone's gotten married by the age of 24 with one or two odds. My best friend who's younger than me will be getting married in the next two years, and although I'm so extremely happy, it makes me depressed about how I've been incapable of holding a relationship for longer than a year. Bleh.

Well I don't know what to say on this topic, except that I sympathize eminently, and to give another fluff supplement. I've made peace with my lack of couplage but it was a rocky road; it is troubling especially around social pressures. Let us not dwell on it, and instead become drunk either on good wine or fluff.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/8ecf2244c2b4ea9b0951881c01f9572f/tumblr_mnmg7rboWb1rraahoo2_1280.jpg



And in case it was unclear, mine is pronounced Dye-mow-night. That's not phonetics, it's just three words that make the right sounds.

My name is spelt Kneenibble, but it's pronounced "Throatwobbler Mangrove."



Playing a few shows, getting a minimum wage job for some extra cash, and putting all my things back together to go to school in the fall! :smallcool:....heeelp I'm stuck in a loop

I know that loop! It's a wild ride. I will raise a vintage crystal goblet this evening full of black wine, and toast that the Ambient Drex Appeal (look I don't control how these names come, I just go with my impulse) should have a grand summer that feels as long as the rest of the year.



Now that be out of way... Hi Knee! Hi Coid! WHY IS POSTING SO HARD NOW?:smallfrown:

Ovis ;___; You need to fix your computer. We never ranter anymore, and I miss the contact high that arises from your long posts and fills my head with visions of things that are not.



That's my day. Baking, composting, cleaning, trying to live my life on the principle of "leave this place better than when you found it". It's not visible from just looking from the outside, is it Qwertystop? After the bread is eaten and the compost rotted down, it won't be visible at all.

I like you, stranger. Although I pronounce your name as "tight"

[LaZodiac]

Yeah, it's not something I strive to do a lot, but sometimes every now again gives a great kick in terms of programming efforts.

Technically "teddy ! die.", but yeah, and it gets even more macabre when you start to imagine the crash logs as autopsy reports. I kill my online aliases so I can dissect them and see what they contain! :smalleek::smallwink:

It's like activating your super mode!

That's unbelievably grim in a hilarious way :smalltongue:

[Deathkeeper]

You know how I sad I have to get up a 5:35 for my job? Well I had stupid amounts of stress and got to sleep at almost 2. I'm dyin' guys.

[Drakeburn]

Well, I've been back for quite some time now. Been doing all sorts of work, including digging out weeds with my mother. Well, last night I had to bail out early into the work.
The reason was that I had apparently dug into a nest of ants, and I actually got to a couple of their eggs, which I fed to the chickens. But the ants were really, really, furious. They've been crawling up my shoes, my pants, and my hands. No matter how many times I brush them off, they kept coming for me. So I did a last shake-off before jumping into the shower.

This is one of the reason why I hate gardening, and ants. :smallannoyed:

So, what did I miss out on?

[TheWombatOfDoom]

I'm glad. Instrumental hip hop is pretty diverse. You could go to, say, Nujabes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWTbVGJTZsA) for something jazzy. You could check out some trap in the style of TNGHT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pXIhCUu584) if you're in a grimy EDM sorta mood. Maybe if you want some tricky turntablism you can check out some of DOOM's instrumental stuff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gpabJMo0oE).

I didn't like TNGHT (the repeated lyrics tone to me seemed grating). I liked the jazzy of the first one the best. :smallcool: The last one was quirky, and fun. :smallsmile:

[Kneenibble]

Well, I've been back for quite some time now. Been doing all sorts of work, including digging out weeds with my mother. Well, last night I had to bail out early into the work.
The reason was that I had apparently dug into a nest of ants, and I actually got to a couple of their eggs, which I fed to the chickens. But the ants were really, really, furious. They've been crawling up my shoes, my pants, and my hands. No matter how many times I brush them off, they kept coming for me. So I did a last shake-off before jumping into the shower.

This is one of the reason why I hate gardening, and ants. :smallannoyed:

So, what did I miss out on?

It sounds like maybe your best friend the Indian Ringneck has been talking to those ants. :smalltongue:

[Drakeburn]

It sounds like maybe your best friend the Indian Ringneck has been talking to those ants. :smalltongue:

I highly doubt it. :smalltongue:

But after digging up their home, and feeding a couple of their babies to the chickens, you can understand their rage. :smallredface:

[Kneenibble]

I highly doubt it. :smalltongue:

But after digging up their home, and feeding a couple of their babies to the chickens, you can understand their rage. :smallredface:

I'll bet ant eggs are a tasty little treat for a bird, though. Maybe you could give some to the parrot as a peace offering.

[FinnLassie]

Previous thread stuffs:


Aww, but that would have been hilarious. :smallfrown: Now is that because you're tall or he's short?

He was convenient for my height.
much more convenient than my way over 2m tall ex...


But, but, but... Scotland! Whisky! Et cetera! :smalltongue: Besides, you couldn't make nearly so many delicious treats without bourbon or rum... And cooking without wine? fugeddaboutit

Well I don't mind myself the occasional whisky and fraoch... To be honest I've started drinking more often here in Scotland and ugh I've but on some extra kilos thanks to that, plus an empty wallet and some pretty embarrassing things people will never stop reminding me of... Ugh. I've decided to never get drunk again.
I have never cooked with wine. I don't really get it. Sure, I love my ox with some red wine sauce, but meh. I come from a culture where alcohol is purely for the purpose of getting utterly pished.




Looks dirty... :smallredface:

You're dirty.



You know, that lady who was just starting to get fun before you stuffed her away. :smalltongue: She seemed like she might have an appreciation for using whips and chains at least...

It's dark olive, darling.



So is Blue-eyed, naive Finn the same as little sister Finn, or Finn-tan? :smallamused:

There's a difference?



mmmmmm.... I do like juice. I've not had blackcurrant or redcurrant, though - I'll have to try those sometime.

Don't know how easy they'd be to obtain, wherever you live. I can get blackcurrant juice here in the UK but it's nothing compared to my gran's home made stuff. Mmmmmh.


Man, I was hoping the smilies would convey the proper context there - I was going for "jokingly self-deprecating," but then you went and took it seriously. I have FAR too big an ego for it to be affected by you forgetting that you saw a picture of me. :smalltongue:

I wasn't having the best evening last night so even the slightest things got me feel really guilty, sorry.


See, what you guys get from me is the complete package - all of my various personas come out to play, including the real me that IRL people don't get to see because they get all judgy. :smalltongue:
But seriously, the forums are where I'm most comfortable, and I don't mind switching from stern Dimo to laughing Dimo on a burst of whimsy. When I do that in real life people either take my laughing too seriously, or my sternness not seriously enough. Here I get just the right mix and I love it.

Sounds like someone deserves a ~cuddle-wuddle~!



Heh, your friend's short. :smalltongue:

Optimal, more like.


Hahahaha I can't remember the last time I was actually fully prepared for a camping trip I went on. I probably haven't brought my mess kit on one in two or three years. Tent stakes are optional. :smallcool:

It's all a routine to me nowadays, really. The only things I keep on forgetting are my puukko and torch - the biggest necessities. :smallannoyed:



The internet has a thing about bringing out certain things in people... I haven't quite figured out what. Idiocy, for sure, in some places. (youtube comments come to mind - good ol' GIFT theory).

For me being somewhat anonymous helps bringing out stuff. I feel sorta bad I posted my face on the forum (a pic I later removed from the thread), but eh. We all make mistakes.[/QUOTE]


And onto the new thread...


Blackcurrant is pretty lame when eaten raw, but blackcurrant cordial is simply unsurpassed. It produces good jam too, but nothing beats cloudberry when it comes to jam.


Yeah blackcurrants aren't the best straight from the bush.
Oh. My. Heavens. Cloudberries. I miss them so much. I'm going to eat so much cloudberry jam when I get back home.

EDIT:



Well I don't know what to say on this topic, except that I sympathize eminently, and to give another fluff supplement. I've made peace with my lack of couplage but it was a rocky road; it is troubling especially around social pressures. Let us not dwell on it, and instead become drunk either on good wine or fluff.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/8ecf2244c2b4ea9b0951881c01f9572f/tumblr_mnmg7rboWb1rraahoo2_1280.jpg


Wub wub wub :3 you deserve a ~cuddle-wuddle~ too!

[Teddy]

Oh. My. Heavens. Cloudberries. I miss them so much. I'm going to eat so much cloudberry jam when I get back home.

As you should. In fact, when I move out (like that's ever going to happen, heh), one of my first courses of action will be to secure a large stash of cloudberries and just cook up obscene amounts of jam to live like a king for the rest of the year.

I mean, waffles with whipped cream and cloudberry jam. :smalldreamy:

Dad's Welsh friend is of a... different mindset, though. According to her, cloudberries are poison. She's so strange...

[FinnLassie]

As you should. In fact, when I move out (like that's ever going to happen, heh), one of my first courses of action will be to secure a large stash of cloudberries and just cook up obscene amounts of jam to live like a king for the rest of the year.

I mean, waffles with whipped cream and cloudberry jam. :smalldreamy:

Dad's Welsh friend is of a... different mindset, though. According to her, cloudberries are poison. She's so strange...

My dad has been going cloudberry picking for the last two years. Apparently last year wasn't that good, but oh man his stash was amazing in 2011.

When my ex, Scottish, came to visit Finland he could not believe how good cloudberries are. Apparently you get them in very, very minimal amounts over here up north, but you can't really gobble them until you're satisfied. Cloudberries are so heavenly. Dunno if you have this cheese in Sweden, but in Finland we have "bread cheese" (squeaky cheese) that is so divine with cloudberries. Om nom nom nom nooom.

[mistformsquirrl]

Someday I need to go get out of the States; just see what the rest of the world is like < . .> I've never even heard of Cloudberries before today.

Heck, even if I can't get out of the country for awhile, just getting out of this state would be good. Illinois is not a bad place to live, it really isn't - but I've been here for the vast, vast majority of my 29 years alive; and I've seen enough flatland and cornfields to last several lifetimes. Seriously, that's like all there is here. <x.x> Sometimes you might get lucky and see some cows or horses, but mostly it's just corn and soybeans and a whole lot of completely flat ground.

[Kneenibble]

Travel is one of the great educators, Mr. Squirrel.

Dear Teddifer or Finnlicious, I will trade you an equal quantity of Saskatoon berry preserves for your magic Cloudberry jam? Consider it a cultural exchange. For I desire this thing.

[Duck999]

Hello fragile humans
I bring more unknown words for you random banterers.
This time they are phobias: Prepare to be scared.

Xylophobia: Sadly not the fear of xylophones, it is the fear of wooden objects and forests.

Zemmiphobia: The fear of the great mole rat.

Hippopotamonstrousisquipedeliaphobia: OH MY GOD OH MY GOD... The fear of long words.

I may have spelled that last one wrong. Now that I think about it, I may start a thread for his.

Imagine this: A man with hippopotamonstrousisquipedeliaphobia going to a therapist.
"What seems to be your problem sir?"
"I have an extreme case of hippo, hippopota, hippopotamonstrous..." *Heavy breathing*
"Oh-hippopotamonstrousisquipedeliaphobia?"
*Cowers in corner wimpering*

I hope I did not offend anyone worth this obviously fake skit.

[Qwertystop]

My personal favorite word is resistentialism.

Partially because the first time I told someone, I promptly (when I turned to leave) tripped over a chair that had been behind me.

[Dimonite]

This is just a rough list, you understand, but I hope you find something here to your tastes. All of these examples are from the 2010s.

Contemporary Classical: I picked some pretty "easy" examples. The bulk of contemporary classical, at least the contemporary classical that I listen to, tends to be much more abstract. Ever heard of musique concrete? It's a funny story.
Ólafur Arnalds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5AOaKmIpJs)
Max Richter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Kybxu7fiQ)
Arvo Part (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuaqTtyX23Q)
Dustin O'Halloran (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNG7G9l3H0c)

Jazz: Kind of a vague term so I just included a whole set of subtypes. Hope you find something to your liking.
Matthew Halsall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xg15INEjFQ)
The Hypnotic Brass Ensemble (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWjupXpntHU)
BADBADNOTGOOD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIvmwIyynbo) (last I checked their albums were legally free)
Wyatt, Atzmon & Stephen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAYK1RHpDLE)

Plenty more where that came from, by the way. Those were just off the cuff examples I had rattling around my brain.

Dang dude, you're like Pandora. Only better, because you don't keep inexplicably throwing Johnny Cash songs my way. These were all pretty good, although the classical tended to be a bit slow for my tastes - I like the big, vibrant, Beethoven stuff.


He's the Chuck Norris of winning!

I'm fairly certain that Chuck Norris is the Chuck Norris of winning.



My name is spelt Kneenibble, but it's pronounced "Throatwobbler Mangrove."


Really? I would have thought it was "Throatwobbler Mangreve." Well, live and learn, I guess.



Well I don't mind myself the occasional whisky and fraoch... To be honest I've started drinking more often here in Scotland and ugh I've but on some extra kilos thanks to that, plus an empty wallet and some pretty embarrassing things people will never stop reminding me of... Ugh. I've decided to never get drunk again.


I've decided to never get drunk in the first place, except once for science. Just because I know that drunkenness is a lot like sleep deprivation and I know that sleep-deprived Dimo is a major grumpyface.


Don't know how easy they'd be to obtain, wherever you live. I can get blackcurrant juice here in the UK but it's nothing compared to my gran's home made stuff. Mmmmmh.


Well, if Google hasn't led me astray, then apparently some varieties of currant do grow here, so I could try them. Perhaps I will endeavor to do so this summer.



I wasn't having the best evening last night so even the slightest things got me feel really guilty, sorry.


You also don't have to feel guilty about feeling guilty. Or for feeling guilty about feeling guilty. :smalltongue:
Just remember this simple rule: if Dimonite is actually upset with you, you'll KNOW. If there's even the slightest uncertainty, then I'm likely joking.



Sounds like someone deserves a ~cuddle-wuddle~!


Blargh!
Captain, we're receiving incoming cuddles!
Don't just stand there, you poltroon! Return fire!
*hugsquishes*

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Blargh!
Captain, we're receiving incoming cuddles!
Don't just stand there, you poltroon! Return fire!
*hugsquishes*

Can I quote this? This is...quite amusing.

[Qwertystop]

Um...

People keep talking about cloudberries, and it just makes me wonder what local fruit (though admittedly I don't know if it's native) is exotic or practically unknown elsewhere.

Blackberries? Blueberries? Raspberries? Strawberries?

Apricot? Plum? Nectarine?

Gooseberries? (disgusting, sour things, by the way. Apparently good in jam, though)

About all I can be confident in being known are apples and pears, and that's basically just because I know modern apple strains are mostly from Chinese crabapple and pears are something my British grandma's reminisced about.

[MoonCat]

I have the timebility to talk!

I dissected a pig fetus yesterday!

[Coidzor]

I have the timebility to talk!

I dissected a pig fetus yesterday!

How was it? Did you get full points? Did you play with the heart?

[Dimonite]

Can I quote this? This is...quite amusing.

If you so desire. :smallcool:


I have the timebility to talk!

I dissected a pig fetus yesterday!

Huzzah!

I hated doing that. Not because I felt bad about the pig or anything - I've always enjoyed dissections. No, I just had bronchitis that week and the preservatives really irritated that.

[MoonCat]

How was it? Did you get full points? Did you play with the heart?

Spoilering, since some could be offended:I dunno. but yes, after I was done doing what I was supposed to, I not only cut out the heart and lungs, but wrested a tooth to compare lengths that were visible from the mouth to the full length. I also was curious about the skull, so I scalped it, then scooped out the brain after cutting the skull. I also decapitated it and explored the digestive system.


Huzzah!

I hated doing that. Not because I felt bad about the pig or anything - I've always enjoyed dissections. No, I just had bronchitis that week and the preservatives really irritated that.

I'd already gotten my hands ll over the pig by the time the teacher told us we could put camphor under our noses to help with the smell, so I did the whole thing bare-nosed. Fortunately, we tipped the preservative out first, so it wasn't as bad as it could have been.

[enderlord99]

Just in case anyone here didn't already know (though I'm sure most folk here did), camphor is a category of smells, not a specific chemical.

I think. I might be misremembering.

[Coidzor]

Spoilering, since some could be offended:I dunno. but yes, after I was done doing what I was supposed to, I not only cut out the heart and lungs, but wrested a tooth to compare lengths that were visible from the mouth to the full length. I also was curious about the skull, so I scalped it, then scooped out the brain after cutting the skull. I also decapitated it and explored the digestive system.

Heh. Any of my bio teachers would have pointed out what a keeper you were to the guys (and some of the girls) of the class. :smallamused:

I approve of this spirit of inquiry. Wouldn't have likely have thought about the teeth during a dissection though, I must admit.


I'd already gotten my hands ll over the pig by the time the teacher told us we could put camphor under our noses to help with the smell, so I did the whole thing bare-nosed. Fortunately, we tipped the preservative out first, so it wasn't as bad as it could have been.

That's good.


Just in case anyone here didn't already know (though I'm sure most folk here did), camphor is a category of smells, not a specific chemical.

I think. I might be misremembering.

Well there's this, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camphor) and then there's the bit where it's actually listed as an active ingredient on vick's vapor rub.

It's good stuff in my experience.


Um...

People keep talking about cloudberries, and it just makes me wonder what local fruit (though admittedly I don't know if it's native) is exotic or practically unknown elsewhere.

Blackberries? Blueberries? Raspberries? Strawberries?

Apricot? Plum? Nectarine?

Gooseberries? (disgusting, sour things, by the way. Apparently good in jam, though)

About all I can be confident in being known are apples and pears, and that's basically just because I know modern apple strains are mostly from Chinese crabapple and pears are something my British grandma's reminisced about.

Apricots or Nectarines and Nectarines are probably more obscure. IIRC, good apricots are still difficult-ish to get, in the same way that actually good varieites of banana are all but nonexistent in the U.S. market, being displaced by the Cavendish(?) variety.

Though they're all pretty good things to have around, if something that most grocery stores in the U.S. will stock at one point or another as the seasons turn.

[MoonCat]

I could have sworn my posts had been blocked.


Heh. Any of my bio teachers would have pointed out what a keeper you were to the guys (and some of the girls) of the class. :smallamused:

I approve of this spirit of inquiry. Wouldn't have likely have thought about the teeth during a dissection though, I must admit.

That's good.

Well there's this, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camphor) and then there's the bit where it's actually listed as an active ingredient on vick's vapor rub.

It's good stuff in my experience.

Really? I'm flattered, no such thing happened here.


The tooth thing resulted in my detaching the jaw for better look at the tongue. I also cut an eyeball in half. Artist Friend dissected a squid in eighth grade and was kicked out for using part of the eyeball as a monocle. :smallbiggrin:

Yeah, I was more annoyed about the powdery smell of latex on my hands afterwards than the pig bits that hit my bare arm when the intestines swung and hit me.

Yeah, it was something with a complicated name that I feared I'd get wrong and couldn't remember, and it definitely had a camphor component, so I was lazy.

Also, anyone who's read The Night The Bed Fell should have a fondness for referring to any such item as camphor. It's a nerdy thing. ^.^

[Worira]

Oh man, fetal pig dissection. That brings back some memories.

[TaiLiu]

So, um, announcement, I have just made another one of my fabulous chocolate and cake tiramisu's (the recipe is loosely bad on Tiramisu and pretty much a guarantee to contract obesity, if only it didn't taste as godly as it does). Now to wait for a day and then it should be good for stuffing people at my B-day party tomorrow. :smallcool:
Ah! Merry Birthday, Comrade! If I were not as lazy, I would conjure you a thread.

I like you, stranger.
Stranger...? We are all comrades here.

You know how I sad I have to get up a 5:35 for my job? Well I had stupid amounts of stress and got to sleep at almost 2. I'm dyin' guys.
Alas! Sleep deprivation can be a terrible thing.

My dad has been going cloudberry picking for the last two years. Apparently last year wasn't that good, but oh man his stash was amazing in 2011.
These "cloudberries:" what are they?

Travel is one of the great educators, Mr. Squirrel.
It is Miss Squirrel, Comrade!

In which Comrade MoonCat slices up pig.
Hm. I keep hearing about these dissections - usually frogs - but none of my education centres ever offered me the chance to try.

It's probably for the best, anyway, considering how squeamish I can be.

[Dimonite]

Spoilering, since some could be offended:I dunno. but yes, after I was done doing what I was supposed to, I not only cut out the heart and lungs, but wrested a tooth to compare lengths that were visible from the mouth to the full length. I also was curious about the skull, so I scalped it, then scooped out the brain after cutting the skull. I also decapitated it and explored the digestive system.


Given the mummy hands you talk about having, this surprises me not at all. :smalltongue:
I actually enjoyed the shark dissection I did my senior year much more - I wasn't sick, and I actually enjoyed the shark smell.
Spoilered for potential offense:
Also, our shark was pregnant, so that was cool - we got bonus baby sharks!




I'd already gotten my hands ll over the pig by the time the teacher told us we could put camphor under our noses to help with the smell, so I did the whole thing bare-nosed. Fortunately, we tipped the preservative out first, so it wasn't as bad as it could have been.

Oh man, we didn't even get that option. On the first day of every dissection, our bio teacher always said "Breathe deep and get used to it now - you'll be smelling it for the next week."

She was one of my favorite teachers. :smallbiggrin:

[LaZodiac]

I have the timebility to talk!

I dissected a pig fetus yesterday!


Spoilering, since some could be offended:I dunno. but yes, after I was done doing what I was supposed to, I not only cut out the heart and lungs, but wrested a tooth to compare lengths that were visible from the mouth to the full length. I also was curious about the skull, so I scalped it, then scooped out the brain after cutting the skull. I also decapitated it and explored the digestive system.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAH WHY DID I READ THAT.

I'm really shocked that you enjoyed dissecting stuff. I have no personal opinion AGAINEST doing it, but I myself would be incapable of doing it ....there isn't a sick smily, but lets just say I'd throw up.

[AsteriskAmp]

Hm. I keep hearing about these dissections - usually frogs - but none of my education centres ever offered me the chance to try.

It's probably for the best, anyway, considering how squeamish I can be.Probably related to: availability, instructor and material disponibility, and legality.

If you live in an area where the local frog species is protected odds are you won't get to dissect because getting recently dead frogs will be extremely expensive.

If the school can't pay for the kits or they don't have a fully capable instructor to guide through the process and the clean-up (BIOWASTE AHOY!) odds are you won't do it.

And last part is local laws making it illegal for certain animals to be used in such a manner or for students to do so at all.

Or parents complaints those are what normally prevents the dissection of easily accessible species which happen to be domestic species. Most children aren't comfortable opening up cats or dogs but think a pig is kosher.

[TaiLiu]

....there isn't a sick smily, but lets just say I'd throw up.
Indeed. At the very least, I would feel sick to the stomach.

Probably related to: availability, instructor and material disponibility, and legality.
All excellent points that I believe play parts in this! (Was that a hollow thing to say?)

[MoonCat]

Hm. I keep hearing about these dissections - usually frogs - but none of my education centres ever offered me the chance to try.

It's probably for the best, anyway, considering how squeamish I can be.

My brother's vegetarian, and the school was really understanding about not making him do it. he took an online thing as substitute.


Given the mummy hands you talk about having, this surprises me not at all. :smalltongue:
I actually enjoyed the shark dissection I did my senior year much more - I wasn't sick, and I actually enjoyed the shark smell.
Spoilered for potential offense:
Also, our shark was pregnant, so that was cool - we got bonus baby sharks!


Oh man, we didn't even get that option. On the first day of every dissection, our bio teacher always said "Breathe deep and get used to it now - you'll be smelling it for the next week."

She was one of my favorite teachers. :smallbiggrin:

I literally cannot comprehend squeamishness. I just don't understand it.

I'll probably get to do a shark in Marine Bio next year. Squee!

Nice. She sounds cool.


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAH WHY DID I READ THAT.

I'm really shocked that you enjoyed dissecting stuff. I have no personal opinion AGAINEST doing it, but I myself would be incapable of doing it ....there isn't a sick smily, but lets just say I'd throw up.

You're shocked? LaLa dear, you know me. Why wouldn't I love every minute of it?

But I am curious, what would the issue be?

[LaZodiac]

You're shocked? LaLa dear, you know me. Why wouldn't I love every minute of it?

But I am curious, what would the issue be?

Um...because I thought you didn't like it? Also because, for me atleast, the thought of it is gross.

[TaiLiu]

My brother's vegetarian, and the school was really understanding about not making him do it. he took an online thing as substitute.
Ah. He cut up digital animals, or...?

I literally cannot comprehend squeamishness. I just don't understand it.
It's quite simple - it's a combination of disgust and fright.

[MoonCat]

Um...because I thought you didn't like it? Also because, for me atleast, the thought of it is gross.

You thought I didn't like it? But... you know me!

What make sit gross? Like, I'm genuinely curious.


Ah. He cut up digital animals, or...?

It's quite simple - it's a combination of disgust and fright.

More or less.

Yes, but what disgusts you and what scares you?

[LaZodiac]

You thought I didn't like it? But... you know me!

What make sit gross? Like, I'm genuinely curious.

Yes, and from what I know, you said that you didn't like the idea of dissecting animals. If I recall, anyway!

Because it's guts! Okay, I know you said you don't understand squeamishness, but basically, I can barely stand something slimy wet and cold like organs to be in my hands. I can't touch raw meat without feeling shudders and it takes a lot of effort to not scrub my hands clean after handling any type of raw meat. For me it's just a "noooo this feels gross uwahgwhagwhagw" feeling.

[TaiLiu]

Yes, but what disgusts you and what scares you?
Far, far too many things to list.

For me it's just a "noooo this feels gross uwahgwhagwhagw" feeling.
That's how I feel every time I use public transportation - basically, every day.

[Dimonite]

Most children aren't comfortable opening up cats or dogs but think a pig is kosher.

I see what you did there. :smalltongue:


My brother's vegetarian, and the school was really understanding about not making him do it. he took an online thing as substitute.


That's... pretty cool, actually.



I literally cannot comprehend squeamishness. I just don't understand it.


Ooh, you'll like this story then. :smalltongue:
Spoilered for the squeamish
When I was in seventh grade, we dissected a caterpillar. One of the girls in my group was super freaked out about doing it, but the rest of us talked her into sticking around (even though the the whole thing was voluntary). When we had the thing opened up, I found some sort of nerve cluster by accident, and when I poked it there THE THING STARTED MOVING. Like, it raised its head up and moved it from side to side. I thought it was awesome, so I called everyone to come over and kept poking the nerve cluster, but that poor girl was as white as a sheet. I found it hilarious.



I'll probably get to do a shark in Marine Bio next year. Squee!


Nice! Be warned, they do have a very strong smell separate from the preservative chemicals, and some people do not enjoy it as much as I did. But really, if you get the chance, you should feel their skins with your gloves off - it feels like sandpaper and its AWESOME.



Nice. She sounds cool.


She really is. She lets students play with her cockatiels and sugar gliders and snakes. But not all at once. :smalltongue:

[MoonCat]

Yes, and from what I know, you said that you didn't like the idea of dissecting animals. If I recall, anyway!

Because it's guts! Okay, I know you said you don't understand squeamishness, but basically, I can barely stand something slimy wet and cold like organs to be in my hands. I can't touch raw meat without feeling shudders and it takes a lot of effort to not scrub my hands clean after handling any type of raw meat. For me it's just a "noooo this feels gross uwahgwhagwhagw" feeling.

These were animal fetuses collected from sows in slaughterhouses. They would be wasted if we hadn't used them. Admittedly, I'd rather dissect human cadaver,s but that would hardly pass in a school. <grumbles>

So... what about the non slimy stuff?


Far, far too many things to list.

That's how I feel every time I use public transportation - basically, every day.

Name some?

Mm. What type?

[enderlord99]

Name some?

Sprouted potatoes.

[TaiLiu]

Name some?
Hm. Blood, grime, sweat, dead animal, garbage, garbage bags...

Mm. What type?
Usually a bus, with the occasional underground train.

[LaZodiac]

These were animal fetuses collected from sows in slaughterhouses. They would be wasted if we hadn't used them. Admittedly, I'd rather dissect human cadaver,s but that would hardly pass in a school. <grumbles>

So... what about the non slimy stuff?

Okay, that's...good. I'm glad you're enjoying it then. Please don't dissect me (I'm teasing, I know you wouldn't!)

All manner of slicing open corpses to touch their insides gross me out. I fully understand how someone could find it fun, but I myself would not.

[MoonCat]

That's... pretty cool, actually.

Ooh, you'll like this story then. :smalltongue:
Spoilered for the squeamish
When I was in seventh grade, we dissected a caterpillar. One of the girls in my group was super freaked out about doing it, but the rest of us talked her into sticking around (even though the the whole thing was voluntary). When we had the thing opened up, I found some sort of nerve cluster by accident, and when I poked it there THE THING STARTED MOVING. Like, it raised its head up and moved it from side to side. I thought it was awesome, so I called everyone to come over and kept poking the nerve cluster, but that poor girl was as white as a sheet. I found it hilarious.

Nice! Be warned, they do have a very strong smell separate from the preservative chemicals, and some people do not enjoy it as much as I did. But really, if you get the chance, you should feel their skins with your gloves off - it feels like sandpaper and its AWESOME.

She really is. She lets students play with her cockatiels and sugar gliders and snakes. But not all at once. :smalltongue:

Yeah. After my mom spent years worrying about what would happen when they forced him to do it, and all the worrying came to naught, she wasn't sure how to feel.

Ooh awesome. There's a reflex one can trigger on human corpses that cause the arms to move up in a manner that causes them to fold almost in the way they appear in Egyptian mummies. Also, that totally reminds me of that bonus scene from The Two Towers film where Gimli has killed one more enemy than Legolas, then Legolas shoots the corpses Gimli's axe is in.

Gimli: He was already dead!
Legolas: He was twitching!
Gimli: He was twitching? Cause he's got my axe embedded in his nervous system! <wiggles axe repeatedly, the corpse spasming repeatedly>

It'll probably be against the rules to take of the glove,s but I'll see what I can do. Fortunately, I'm already familiar with sharkskin, because that's the sort of thing you get to know in my town.

Squee! I got to feed my science teacher's turtles.

[Coidzor]

I hated doing that. Not because I felt bad about the pig or anything - I've always enjoyed dissections. No, I just had bronchitis that week and the preservatives really irritated that.

Yeah, my lungs aren't the best and sometimes it got a bit much for me.

I think I was actually out sick the day we did pigs, though, sadly.

Rather enjoyed the purple starfish we opened up though. The insides were like leopard print! :smallbiggrin:


Dear Teddifer or Finnlicious, I will trade you an equal quantity of Saskatoon berry preserves for your magic Cloudberry jam? Consider it a cultural exchange. For I desire this thing.

Thats our Kneenibbler! :smallbiggrin: That reminds me, I need to acquire Saskatoon berries.

This, in turn, reminds me that I saw something called "Christmas Jam" at my local farmer's market...


Well I don't know what to say on this topic, except that I sympathize eminently, and to give another fluff supplement. I've made peace with my lack of couplage but it was a rocky road; it is troubling especially around social pressures. Let us not dwell on it, and instead become drunk either on good wine or fluff.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/8ecf2244c2b4ea9b0951881c01f9572f/tumblr_mnmg7rboWb1rraahoo2_1280.jpg

That reminds me, can budgies eat rocky road ice cream? :smallconfused:


My name is spelt Kneenibble, but it's pronounced "Throatwobbler Mangrove."

Is that some kind of innuendo?

That's got to be some kind of innuendo...


I know that loop! It's a wild ride. I will raise a vintage crystal goblet this evening full of black wine, and toast that the Ambient Drex Appeal (look I don't control how these names come, I just go with my impulse) should have a grand summer that feels as long as the rest of the year.

And what an impulse it is. Though, I must confess that I have never heard of black wine before. I am intrigued by the concept...


I like you, stranger. Although I pronounce your name as "tight"

Tayt like a tayger! :smallamused: I've been favorably impressed so far as well, I must admit.

But I am le vain and easily impressed. Fickle and to one thing constant never. With one foot in sea and one on shore...


Really? I'm flattered, no such thing happened here.

Ah well. :smalltongue:


The tooth thing resulted in my detaching the jaw for better look at the tongue. I also cut an eyeball in half. Artist Friend dissected a squid in eighth grade and was kicked out for using part of the eyeball as a monocle. :smallbiggrin:

Nifty. Never got to play around much with that particular organ myself.


Yeah, I was more annoyed about the powdery smell of latex on my hands afterwards than the pig bits that hit my bare arm when the intestines swung and hit me.

Yeah, it was something with a complicated name that I feared I'd get wrong and couldn't remember, and it definitely had a camphor component, so I was lazy.

Also, anyone who's read The Night The Bed Fell should have a fondness for referring to any such item as camphor. It's a nerdy thing. ^.^

Ahh. I always had my skin get irritated if I didn't wash that stuff off before it dried myself.

Always fun, that.

...Rings a bell... :smallconfused:

[MoonCat]

Hm. Blood, grime, sweat, dead animal, garbage, garbage bags...

Usually a bus, with the occasional underground train.

Uh... I meant what would be scary/disgusting in a dissection...

Ah.


Okay, that's...good. I'm glad you're enjoying it then. Please don't dissect me (I'm teasing, I know you wouldn't!)

All manner of slicing open corpses to touch their insides gross me out. I fully understand how someone could find it fun, but I myself would not.

You're alive, it would be greatly inconvenient to kill you just for the purposes of studying your body. Especially when I know what an exhibitionist you are. :smalltongue:

Okay.

[LaZodiac]

You're alive, it would be greatly inconvenient to kill you just for the purposes of studying your body. Especially when I know what an exhibitionist you are. :smalltongue:

Okay.

...okay now you're teasing me. I've never been on this side of it before :smallredface:

I like it :smallamused:

[MoonCat]

Nifty. Never got to play around much with that particular organ myself.

Ahh. I always had my skin get irritated if I didn't wash that stuff off before it dried myself.

Always fun, that.

...Rings a bell... :smallconfused:

<headdesk> Yeah. It was fascinating, after the leaking of black fluid there was actually the inside bit being bright pink and hard, which was interesting. I'd never thought about the internal textures before then.

Mm.

Written by Whatshisface?

[TaiLiu]

Uh... I meant what would be scary/disgusting in a dissection...
Ah. Dead skin, knowledge that the body is dead, the possible spraying of blood...

[Worira]

man I dunno what the heck you're doing to get blood spray from a preserved specimen

That said, if you pierce the stomach, you can get a decent spurt of preservatives and digestive juices, which a fairly nastybad combo.


Also I feel like I should probably point out that anything you touch has dead skin on it, since you're using your epidermis to do it.

[Dimonite]

Admittedly, I'd rather dissect human cadaver,s but that would hardly pass in a school. <grumbles>


I never thought I'd say this, but...
You understand me! Or at least have an interest identical to the one I have but don't talk about because people always look at me funny!



Ooh awesome. There's a reflex one can trigger on human corpses that cause the arms to move up in a manner that causes them to fold almost in the way they appear in Egyptian mummies.


Sweet. :smallcool:



Also, that totally reminds me of that bonus scene from The Two Towers film where Gimli has killed one more enemy than Legolas, then Legolas shoots the corpses Gimli's axe is in.

Gimli: He was already dead!
Legolas: He was twitching!
Gimli: He was twitching? Cause he's got my axe embedded in his nervous system! <wiggles axe repeatedly, the corpse spasming repeatedly>


I haven't seen any of the bonus scenes, sadly. But that sounds hilarious.



It'll probably be against the rules to take of the glove,s but I'll see what I can do. Fortunately, I'm already familiar with sharkskin, because that's the sort of thing you get to know in my town.


It was against the rules here, too. That didn't stop me though. I'm such a rebel. :smalltongue:



Squee! I got to feed my science teacher's turtles.

Turtles are also pretty cool.

[TaiLiu]

man I dunno what the heck you're doing to get blood spray from a preserved specimen
Paranoia, really.

That said, if you pierce the stomach, you can get a decent spurt of preservatives and digestive juices, which a fairly nastybad combo.
This too, I suppose.

Also I feel like I should probably point out that anything you touch has dead skin on it, since you're using your epidermis to do it.
Yes, but it's not a whole dead body.

[Amidus Drexel]

Hrm... four pages of random banter on equally as many hours' worth of sleep... It's like y'all are trying to give me an early birthday present. I mean, hell, you only have to wait a few days. :smallamused:

Coherency is not guaranteed; however, we will make concessions if for some reason Amidus stops making sense. Please notify him of this, should it occur, along with the nature of your confusion.


Lynyrd Skynyrd is rather blatantly southern rock. The instrumentation can line up with country from time to time but it's closer to blues rock than anything. With that being said, Coidzor, Bruce Springsteen isn't country either. No, not even Nebraska.

I have no idea what you're saying, here.

What exactly is the difference between Southern Rock and Country Rock? I'll give you that Lynyrd Skynyrd has a lot of blues influence, but so do a lot of country musicians.

I'm saying that the pop and hip-hop influenced country meshes reasonably well with your taste in music, so you'd be more apt to like those songs than say, someone who wasn't a fan of hip-hop or pop.

I think that's what I meant the first time...


Zoids! You too? Oh man, sleep came desparagingly late last night... :smallsigh: (yawning)

I think I may need to shave my luxorious beard soon. :smallfrown: It's so hot that its becoming uncomfortable for sleepy-times...

Weeeeeellll, I chose to go to sleep at 1am, knowing that I had to be up at 5. I'm probably going to do the same thing tonight, except without the waking up at five part.

You should keep the mustache, though.


Mmmmm.... slow ass-love. ...songs.

Gah, I was going to say that! :smalltongue:



May the food-deprived join in too?

Also, it's funny when I name my investors after my online aliases, and the only way to make them print out their data is by crashing them horribly. You have no idea of how many times "teddy" has gotten the message "die" today. :smallwink:

You may, although we already ate the refreshments. (It was a plastic plant). :smalltongue:

Heh :smallamused:



My name is spelt Kneenibble, but it's pronounced "Throatwobbler Mangrove."

I know that loop! It's a wild ride. I will raise a vintage crystal goblet this evening full of black wine, and toast that the Ambient Drex Appeal (look I don't control how these names come, I just go with my impulse) should have a grand summer that feels as long as the rest of the year.

I like you, stranger. Although I pronounce your name as "tight"

Gah, I've been pronouncing it "Throotwabbler Manegrove" this whole time! I live in shame. :smalltongue:

It's maddening, is what it is. HELP ME I'M STILL HERE!

Connotations! :smallbiggrin:



You're dirty.

Optimal, more like.

It's all a routine to me nowadays, really. The only things I keep on forgetting are my puukko and torch - the biggest necessities. :smallannoyed:

For me being somewhat anonymous helps bringing out stuff. I feel sorta bad I posted my face on the forum (a pic I later removed from the thread), but eh. We all make mistakes.

I'm surprised you hadn't figured this out already. :smallamused:

Midget. :smalltongue:
A game of midget toss?
I'm pretty sure only four or five people even know where that started...

You can make do without either pretty well... granted, they're nice to have.

Anonymous. There is no such thing. I can guarantee that there's enough information out on the internet that a sufficiently determined person could figure out who I am based on only my public information (no hacking IP addresses, no using my email to figure it out)... Not that it would be an easy task, necessarily, but doable. To be worried about having a picture of yourself up where we don't know your name is a bit silly. :smalltongue:

[MoonCat]

I never thought I'd say this, but...
You understand me! Or at least have an interest identical to the one I have but don't talk about because people always look at me funny!

Sweet. :smallcool:

I haven't seen any of the bonus scenes, sadly. But that sounds hilarious.

It was against the rules here, too. That didn't stop me though. I'm such a rebel. :smalltongue:

Turtles are also pretty cool.

It took me until this year to understand that there are actually people who don't think mummies and corpses are fascinating. Which I'm pretty sure determines my calling, since if it means so much to me I don't even understand not loving it, that's probably job satisfaction over there.

Agreed.

It was pretty funny. Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypZLnDaqo1M), watch. The quality is a bit crap, but it suffices.

Man, what a hooligan.

They're quite amusing. One is constantly zoning out, doing weird things, and eating stuff, and the other is always frantically swimming against the glass following every finger movement and flipping out. In the ultimate wisdom of the sophomore class, they have been nicknamed Crackhead and Weeds.

I may or may not have been the one who first pointed out their behavioral idiosyncrasies in relation to drugs.

[TaiLiu]

Hrm... four pages of random banter on equally as many hours' worth of sleep... It's like y'all are trying to give me an early birthday present. I mean, hell, you only have to wait a few days. :smallamused:
Ah! Merry Birthday, Comrade!

I may or may not have been the one who first pointed out their behavioral idiosyncrasies in relation to drugs.
Hm.

[MoonCat]

Hm.

Hmm? :smallconfused:

(For the record, I didn't chose the names, and recognize it doesn't actually quite match. But we all decided it had a nice ring to it.)

[TaiLiu]

Hmm? :smallconfused:

(For the record, I didn't chose the name Crackhead, and recognize it doesn't actually quite matched. But we all decided it had a much better ring to say "Crackhead and Weeds" than anything else.
Hm!

(I was expressing amazement at your abilities of persuasion, actually. Quite impressive.)

[LaZodiac]

*Not continuing the tease that she's been pulling on me*

Oh Moony, you really do care :smalltongue:

[Amidus Drexel]

Sneaky, posting in the last thread where I wouldn't normally think to look. :smalltongue:



:smallwink: And if you find someone who can roast chicken properly, they're probably a good catch.

:smallwink: I think I need to as well.

That's what bears are for. :smalltongue: Also, dutch ovens.


Indeed. Saves me having to learn how to cook more than two or three things. :smallamused:

:smalltongue: :smallamused: :smallwink:

I think you're overestimating to a large degree how much work I'm willing to do when I'm sleeping outside.



Well, that'd certainly be an experience then, I suppose.

:smallwink: *reaches into hammerspace and pulls out a very confused and bedraggled emu, winds up for the pitch...*

It's a very pernicious thing, Scurvy. Lurking round every corner like a bogeyman or straw feminist.


Indeed. Hrm... that reminds me of Rafiki's theory of what I would do on acid. Apparently I would run off into the woods, and show up the next morning with a haircut and a tux. I'm not particularly eager to test this theory (and also, he doesn't have any acid, so the point is pretty much moot)...

*allows the emu to hit me, and walks* :smalltongue:

Heh, I get it. :smallamused:
I get it.
Guys... Nobody here knows what the hell you're talking about.



Well, no, not that bad, but it's still early summer in all the parts I've been in. Or maybe in that awkward transition between spring and summer. Usually spring only really happened for about a week in February.

Giant horses. All the way down. Hmm, no, doesn't quite have the same ring to it as Turtles....

You underestimate the sheer fractactical genius of it. :smalltongue:


It's more like where summer ought to be, and not what summer actually is.

Elephants, I think you mean. Elephants all the way down. (although I thought the turtle was on bottom... Hrm...)

I spent the vast majority of today re-organizing my internal organs; I assure you there is nothing genius on them rejecting a few choice previously-ingested items on account of being scrambled. :smalltongue:


Ah! Merry Birthday, Comrade!

I've got a solid few days before I'm older, man. Let me enjoy my youth while I have it. :smalltongue: :smallamused:

[Coidzor]

Finn-din
He was convenient for my height.
much more convenient than my way over 2m tall ex...

I suppose having to use climbing gear to get in for a smooch would get old after a while...

Well, now I'm kinda jealous. Though actually about 2 meters is my ideal height.


Well I don't mind myself the occasional whisky and fraoch...

To be honest I've started drinking more often here in Scotland and ugh I've but on some extra kilos thanks to that, plus an empty wallet and some pretty embarrassing things people will never stop reminding me of... Ugh. I've decided to never get drunk again.

I have never cooked with wine. I don't really get it. Sure, I love my ox with some red wine sauce, but meh. I come from a culture where alcohol is purely for the purpose of getting utterly pished.

Fraoch? :smallconfused:

That's pretty unfortunate. I'm sorry to hear that. I have to admit I've only really had much to drink around people who I trusted to shut me down and sit on me if I became a hazard.

Well, wine sauces are awesome. Vodka sauces are awesome. Wine or beer as a base for stew is awesome. Beer makes excellent batter. Dark Spirits provide an excellent flavor that complements a wide variety of sweets. Or at least complements chocolate, which complements a wide variety of decadent sweets and desserts. Various alcohols make for great marinades as well.

I'm from 'Murica. Alcohol is part of our primordial cultural essence as much as we have a love-hate relationship with it. Generally we usually view it as merely a tool for roughly socially acceptable intoxication, but then there's foodies. And I was raised by a gourmand, so...


You're dirty.

It's dark olive, darling.

That's what the ladies love and/or hate about me, yes. :smalltongue: To paraphrase the words of my best friend, women have horrible taste in Coidzors.

And it came out mod-text when I tried the first time. :smallconfused: DarkOliveGreenor DarkOlive or Dark_Olive or....?


There's a difference?

More a probing statement to make sure that I was in fact talking about the same per-so-na (http://youtu.be/G5Dv1M8WMUs?t=56s).


Don't know how easy they'd be to obtain, wherever you live. I can get blackcurrant juice here in the UK but it's nothing compared to my gran's home made stuff. Mmmmmh.

I wasn't having the best evening last night so even the slightest things got me feel really guilty, sorry.

Grans have, like, a +10 to making delicious home made stuff. :smallbiggrin: ...I miss my grandmama. I should see if my parents got any of her fruit preserves from this past year that I can bum off of them...

I hope this next week treats you better.


Sounds like someone deserves a ~cuddle-wuddle~!

Optimal, more like.

It's all a routine to me nowadays, really. The only things I keep on forgetting are my puukko and torch - the biggest necessities. :smallannoyed:

:smallamused:

What does that even mean?

Always got to be able to see and cut things up, aye.


For me being somewhat anonymous helps bringing out stuff. I feel sorta bad I posted my face on the forum (a pic I later removed from the thread), but eh. We all make mistakes.

It depends on how rooted I feel in a community, I must admit. If I don't have an emotional sentiment towards a place I want as close to total, absolute anonymity as possible.

The problem is that I generally act the same regardless...


Wub wub wub :3 you deserve a ~cuddle-wuddle~ too!

Now you understand the why wub woo! :smallbiggrin:


As you should. In fact, when I move out (like that's ever going to happen, heh), one of my first courses of action will be to secure a large stash of cloudberries and just cook up obscene amounts of jam to live like a king for the rest of the year.

I mean, waffles with whipped cream and cloudberry jam. :smalldreamy:

Dad's Welsh friend is of a... different mindset, though. According to her, cloudberries are poison. She's so strange...

Waffles with any kind of cream and fruit are delicious. :smalltongue:

I must admit I want to try these cloudberries though. I wonder if it can be acquired through IKEA...

I think the Welsh are strange to the rest of the peoples of the British and/or Irish Isles. :smallconfused:

Ama-lambs.


Hrm... four pages of random banter on equally as many hours' worth of sleep... It's like y'all are trying to give me an early birthday present. I mean, hell, you only have to wait a few days. :smallamused:

Coherency is not guaranteed; however, we will make concessions if for some reason Amidus stops making sense. Please notify him of this, should it occur, along with the nature of your confusion.

We love you anyway, dear. :smallwink:


What exactly is the difference between Southern Rock and Country Rock?

Good question.


Weeeeeellll, I chose to go to sleep at 1am, knowing that I had to be up at 5. I'm probably going to do the same thing tonight, except without the waking up at five part.

You should keep the mustache, though.

Yeah, I did something like that.

At least long enough to get pix of the moustachio alone, aye.


Gah, I was going to say that! :smalltongue:

Gah, I've been pronouncing it "Throotwabbler Manegrove" this whole time! I live in shame. :smalltongue:

It's maddening, is what it is. HELP ME I'M STILL HERE!

Connotations! :smallbiggrin:

I'm glad I didn't have to, I must admit. :smallamused:

And you don't even have the excuse of a scandinavian, scottish, or canadian accent. Or Wallachian (http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/the-one-in-which-every-character-is-illegible)

Don't worry, little buddy.

The best of things. The worst of things.


I'm surprised you hadn't figured this out already. :smallamused:

Eh, sad but true. (http://youtu.be/yZAY-78zhmw?t=1m53s)


Midget. :smalltongue:
A game of midget toss?
I'm pretty sure only four or five people even know where that started...

Rings a bell, I must admit...

[TaiLiu]

I've got a solid few days before I'm older, man. Let me enjoy my youth while I have it. :smalltongue: :smallamused:
Comrade, I'm certain you'll still be young and hip!

I must admit I want to try these cloudberries though. I wonder if it can be acquired through IKEA...
Is IKEA not a furniture store?

[MoonCat]

Hm!

(I was expressing amazement at your abilities of persuasion, actually. Quite impressive.)

Ah. Well, it's widely used now, so that's fun.


Oh Moony, you really do care :smalltongue:

Hmm? Sorry, got caught up in this amazing game I've been playing. My wit is out fishing at the moment.

[Coidzor]

Is IKEA not a furniture store?

Ho, yez. (http://santiago.mapache.org/toys/jager/jagerize.cgi)

But it's also so much more. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUPu_ipbVB0)


Sneaky, posting in the last thread where I wouldn't normally think to look. :smalltongue:

That's-a me! :smallwink:


Indeed. Saves me having to learn how to cook more than two or three things. :smallamused:

:smalltongue: :smallamused: :smallwink:

I think you're overestimating to a large degree how much work I'm willing to do when I'm sleeping outside.

Quite.

:smallbiggrin:

I always find laziness leads to exiting, pursued by bear when camping myself. Though usually it's raccoons playing the role of the bear.


Indeed. Hrm... that reminds me of Rafiki's theory of what I would do on acid. Apparently I would run off into the woods, and show up the next morning with a haircut and a tux. I'm not particularly eager to test this theory (and also, he doesn't have any acid, so the point is pretty much moot)...

*allows the emu to hit me, and walks* :smalltongue:

Heh, I get it. :smallamused:
I get it.
Guys... Nobody here knows what the hell you're talking about.

That's hilarious.

*takes out to a local coffee shop* :smallamused:

If it's anything other than this, I owe you a cookie. (http://www.harkavagrant.com/?id=341)


It's more like where summer ought to be, and not what summer actually is.

Elephants, I think you mean. Elephants all the way down. (although I thought the turtle was on bottom... Hrm...)

I spent the vast majority of today re-organizing my internal organs; I assure you there is nothing genius on them rejecting a few choice previously-ingested items on account of being scrambled. :smalltongue:

True. It's not quite as hellacious as true Florida summer, where eggs left on the sidewalk will cook themselves...

Next you'll be telling me there was a fifth elephant but it fell off and then crashed into the place and now dwarves mine its ancient fossilized fat reserves.:smalltongue:

Neat.


I've got a solid few days before I'm older, man. Let me enjoy my youth while I have it. :smalltongue: :smallamused:

You're not OLD MANANDORF just yet.


<headdesk> Yeah. It was fascinating, after the leaking of black fluid there was actually the inside bit being bright pink and hard, which was interesting. I'd never thought about the internal textures before then.

Written by Whatshisface?

What's so headdesky, young Moonin? :smalltongue: I always forget about the hard part, I must admit.

Something like that, yeah.

[mistformsquirrl]

I'm young and hip. And by hip I mean "I wear big pants." >.>/ badumsh

[TaiLiu]

Ah. Well, it's widely used now, so that's fun.
Oh, I would imagine so.

Hmm? Sorry, got caught up in this amazing game I've been playing. My wit is out fishing at the moment.
Oo! What is this game?

But it's also so much more. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUPu_ipbVB0)
Huh.

I'm young and hip. And by hip I mean "I wear big pants." >.>/ badumsh
Big pants are very comfortable!

[MoonCat]

Improbable Island! IT IS SO FUUUUUUUN!!!!!!!

[enderlord99]

Is IKEA not a furniture store?

That's what they all say... right before the Minotaur eats them!

[TaiLiu]

Improbable Island! IT IS SO FUUUUUUUN!!!!!!!
Ah. I remember playing that game when I was young. I found rather strange and let it be.

That's what they all say... right before the Minotaur eats them!
...The Minotaur?

[LaZodiac]

Ah. Well, it's widely used now, so that's fun.

Hmm? Sorry, got caught up in this amazing game I've been playing. My wit is out fishing at the moment.

Okay. Tell me what game it is! And tell us about that whole "Moony is scientificly to be proven to have super powers" thing! And that exchange student thing! Tell us! Or atleast me.

God I'm desperate to talk with you sometimes, I'm a creepy friend :smallsigh:

[TaiLiu]

God I'm desperate to talk with you sometimes, I'm a creepy friend :smallsigh:
Either that or a caring friend, and I'm more inclined to state the latter.

[Amidus Drexel]

Well, now I'm kinda jealous. Though actually about 2 meters is my ideal height.

I'm from 'Murica. Alcohol is part of our primordial cultural essence as much as we have a love-hate relationship with it. Generally we usually view it as merely a tool for roughly socially acceptable intoxication, but then there's foodies. And I was raised by a gourmand, so...

I think the Welsh are strange to the rest of the peoples of the British and/or Irish Isles. :smallconfused:


You're 6 and a half feet tall? Huh.

The Germans and Irish brought a good tradition over here, and so it will stay. :smallcool:

What exactly are the Welsh stereotypes, besides having a language that mostly consists of consonants?



We love you anyway, dear. :smallwink:

At least long enough to get pix of the moustachio alone, aye.


And this is why I would have nightmares, if I actually slept. :smalltongue:

I second this motion.



I'm glad I didn't have to, I must admit. :smallamused:

And you don't even have the excuse of a scandinavian, scottish, or canadian accent. Or Wallachian (http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/the-one-in-which-every-character-is-illegible)

Don't worry, little buddy.

The best of things. The worst of things.


Somebody has to. It might as well be the Excellent Nibbler of Knees as anyone else. :smallamused:

Heh :smallamused:

I'm not worrying so much as I am reacting to... something or other. and there went my attention span. I don't really worry about things, as a general rule.

And so easy to read into comments! :smallbiggrin:



Eh, sad but true. (http://youtu.be/yZAY-78zhmw?t=1m53s)

Rings a bell, I must admit...[/SPOILER]


If this isn't Metallica, I'm going to be disappointed. ...Tsk, tsk. :smallamused:

I don't think you're young enough to have gone to that high school to have been there for that. :smalltongue:


Comrade, I'm certain you'll still be young and hip!

I'm so hip, you can see my pelvis from orbit! :smallbiggrin:



That's-a me! :smallwink:

I always find laziness leads to exiting, pursued by bear when camping myself. Though usually it's raccoons playing the role of the bear.

*takes out to a local coffee shop* :smallamused:

If it's anything other than this, I owe you a cookie. (http://www.harkavagrant.com/?id=341)


*narrows eyes*

Be lazy with the things you can afford to do so with. Never cut corners when doing so might make loads of extra work for you later.

*buys peanuts and cracker jack* Are we even on the same thing anymore?

Well, that's what you were referencing. :smalltongue: What I was going on about (briefly) was something else entirely (and to a large degree, unexplainable). It's Squadcar's fault - he started it.



Neat.

You're not OLD MANANDORF just yet.


It is the opposite of neat. It is fun! :smallcool:

I'm more like youngish and full of memories of things. I talked to Jabor the other day when we both happened to show up for class, and tried to figure out just how long ago we did a bunch of stuff... That made me feel old.


I'm young and hip. And by hip I mean "I wear big pants." >.>/ badumsh

You rock that pelvis. :smallwink:

[LaZodiac]

Either that or a caring friend, and I'm more inclined to state the latter.

Thanks :smallsmile:

[enderlord99]

...The Minotaur?

Ikea is often portrayed as maze-like.

[TaiLiu]

Thanks :smallsmile:
Also, to answer your question of the game: it is called Improbable Island. Comrade MoonCat has a post stating so.

Ikea is often portrayed as maze-like.
Ah. (Why do I fail to notice these connections until after they've been told...?)

[LaZodiac]

Also, to answer your question of the game: it is called Improbable Island. Comrade MoonCat has a post stating so.

I noticed but I don't know what game that is so that doesn't help me at all :smalltongue:

[Coidzor]

You're 6 and a half feet tall? Huh.

The Germans and Irish brought a good tradition over here, and so it will stay. :smallcool:

What exactly are the Welsh stereotypes, besides having a language that mostly consists of consonants?

My ideal height, I said. :smalltongue:

Well, the Scots helped. :smallwink: If it's not scottish, it's craaaaap.

Welsh Prison results in you getting eaten in Yahtzee's old Choose Your Own Adventures/Flowcharts. Y'know, before he got internet famous.

Also, being mistaken for Cornish and vice-versa.


And this is why I would have nightmares, if I actually slept. :smalltongue:

I second this motion.

All of my love! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBI_Av00_Fo) :smalltongue: Muahahaha, the foulness of my positive feelings blacken all that is good about the world, and so on and so forth.

I'd third it, but...


Somebody has to. It might as well be the Excellent Nibbler of Knees as anyone else. :smallamused:

I'm not worrying so much as I am reacting to... something or other. and there went my attention span. I don't really worry about things, as a general rule.

And so easy to read into comments! :smallbiggrin:

Only too true. It suits him better than I, strewth.

Good policy.

Good times. :smallamused:


If this isn't Metallica, I'm going to be disappointed. ...Tsk, tsk. :smallamused:

I don't think you're young enough to have gone to that high school to have been there for that. :smalltongue:

Honestly... I can't even remember which reference I'm supposed to have missed here.

But I was young enough to watch it when it was still on the air if I'm thinking of the right reference there.


I'm so hip, you can see my pelvis from orbit! :smallbiggrin:

Kinky.


*narrows eyes*

Be lazy with the things you can afford to do so with. Never cut corners when doing so might make loads of extra work for you later.

*buys peanuts and cracker jack* Are we even on the same thing anymore?

Well, that's what you were referencing. :smalltongue: What I was going on about (briefly) was something else entirely (and to a large degree, unexplainable). It's Squadcar's fault - he started it.

*makes eyes at* :smallwink:

Exactly. I guess I just end up with more extra work than you. :smalltongue:

*root, root, roots for the home team* Honestly, I'm just rolling with it at this point

Hm. Squadcar? Squadcar. Squadcar...I got nothing.


It is the opposite of neat. It is fun! :smallcool:

I'm more like youngish and full of memories of things. I talked to Jabor the other day when we both happened to show up for class, and tried to figure out just how long ago we did a bunch of stuff... That made me feel old.

You rock that pelvis. :smallwink:

:smalltongue:

*pat pat* It'll be OK. Just gotta do more stuff to stave off the void.

But don't pelvis any rocks. Ow.


I'm young and hip. And by hip I mean "I wear big pants." >.>/ badumsh

What, not that you don't lie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUT5rEU6pqM)? :smallconfused:


Improbable Island! IT IS SO FUUUUUUUN!!!!!!!

Yep. :smallamused:


...The Minotaur?

Lives in lairs and mazes. (http://gunnerkrigg.wikia.com/wiki/Basil) Kind of a big guy.


God I'm desperate to talk with you sometimes, I'm a creepy friend :smallsigh:

One could even say... hungry...

[TaiLiu]

I noticed but I don't know what game that is so that doesn't help me at all :smalltongue:
Hm. Would a link help? (http://www.improbableisland.com/home.php?)

[Taet]

I admire MoonCat for going beyond the dissection exercises and learning a little something more, and envy her for not having a dissection group which goofed around so much during lab that our piglet couldn't even teach us all that we were supposed to learn.

Dimonite. Part of me wants to say that's cool. The other part remembers seventh grade science and shudders for unrelated reasons. It was a nasty, hormonal time for all involved. Now I have a friend who teaches at that level, year in, year out. How does she stay sane?

[AsteriskAmp]

Either that or a caring friend, and I'm more inclined to state the latter.The line becomes rather blurry after certain point...

[Amidus Drexel]

My ideal height, I said. :smalltongue:

Well, the Scots helped. :smallwink: If it's not scottish, it's craaaaap.

Welsh Prison results in you getting eaten in Yahtzee's old Choose Your Own Adventures/Flowcharts. Y'know, before he got internet famous.


Heh. Midget. :smalltongue:

Well, yeah. All the British like their alcohol. You know, I think that just goes for Europe in general. I can't think of any European country that doesn't have a stereotype of lots of alcohol.

I should read those, he's hilarious.




All of my love! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBI_Av00_Fo) :smalltongue: Muahahaha, the foulness of my positive feelings blacken all that is good about the world, and so on and so forth.


That had better link to Zeppelin... SUCCESS! :smallcool:



Honestly... I can't even remember which reference I'm supposed to have missed here.

But I was young enough to watch it when it was still on the air if I'm thinking of the right reference there.


You know, the thing you said. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8MO7fkZc5o) :smalltongue:

Not that I know of... The high school in question was mine, and it was only built three years ago, and if it's been put on national television, then they didn't tell me about it when I was there. What are you talking about?



Exactly. I guess I just end up with more extra work than you. :smalltongue:

*root, root, roots for the home team* Honestly, I'm just rolling with it at this point

Hm. Squadcar? Squadcar. Squadcar...I got nothing.


Well, it'd be hard to end up with less work than me. :smallamused:

*readies an action to shame them if they lose* Might as well go all the way now.

A friend of mine that I haven't seen in quite a while... I'd be highly surprised if you knew him. Man, all these in-jokes keep slipping into my forum-speech. I'll have to stop that at some point.


*pat pat* It'll be OK. Just gotta do more stuff to stave off the void.

There is no void, there is an effluence of events and things that have happened. :smalltongue:

[MoonCat]

Arrgh. So tired. Will talk tomorrow. <huggles>

[LaZodiac]

Arrgh. So tired. Will talk tomorrow. <huggles>

Ok Moony! *huggles!*

[Coidzor]

Heh. Midget. :smalltongue:

Well, yeah. All the British like their alcohol. You know, I think that just goes for Europe in general. I can't think of any European country that doesn't have a stereotype of lots of alcohol.

I should read those, he's hilarious.

Yeah, yeah, I'm 4 inches shorter than I want to be. Rub it in, why don't'cha. :smalltongue:

Water of life.

Yep.


That had better link to Zeppelin... SUCCESS! :smallcool:

You know, the thing you said. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8MO7fkZc5o) :smalltongue:

Not that I know of... The high school in question was mine, and it was only built three years ago, and if it's been put on national television, then they didn't tell me about it when I was there. What are you talking about?

:smallwink:

Oh. That thing. I suppose I can listen to it instead of the LP of Kings Quest VI I was watching.

Oh, ok. I thought you were referencing Saved by the Bell for some reason but we weren't naming it out loud.


Well, it'd be hard to end up with less work than me. :smallamused:

*readies an action to shame them if they lose* Might as well go all the way now.

A friend of mine that I haven't seen in quite a while... I'd be highly surprised if you knew him. Man, all these in-jokes keep slipping into my forum-speech. I'll have to stop that at some point.

You do seem to have mastered the art, Mr. Grasshopper. :smalltongue:

*dumps popcorn on* What kind of a girl do you take me for!?

*shakes fist at*


There is no void, there is an effluence of events and things that have happened. :smalltongue:

Juffo-Wup is the hot light in the darkness. All else is unfulfilled Void.

We are the Mycon. (http://youtu.be/zTXZzZoxNaA?t=7m6s)

[TaiLiu]

The line becomes rather blurry after certain point...
:smalltongue:

Arrgh. So tired. Will talk tomorrow. <huggles>
Have a good respite!

[Amidus Drexel]

Yeah, yeah, I'm 4 inches shorter than I want to be. Rub it in, why don't'cha. :smalltongue:


As you wish (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88svMqo3ZEk). :smalltongue:



You do seem to have mastered the art, Mr. Grasshopper. :smalltongue:

*dumps popcorn on* What kind of a girl do you take me for!?


It is a fine art to master. :smallcool:

*electrocutes* DON'T YOU DUMP POPCORN ON ME



Juffo-Wup is the hot light in the darkness. All else is unfulfilled Void.

We are the Mycon. (http://youtu.be/zTXZzZoxNaA?t=7m6s)


Wut. :smallconfused:...:smallamused:

ION: Oh, god, it's almost 2. I bid thee good morning, thread, and retire to bed.

[DJ Yung Crunk]

Guys, if I may be permitted to steer the conversation back to music for a spell. Given the general attitude of discontent with Top 40 pop music in this thread, would you nice folks be averse to me whipping up a list of recent pop music that passed the airwaves by? Who knows? You might find something you like. It's a win-win because I, in return, get to dispell any unsavoury rumours about the 2010s being any less than the greatest decade in music history!


Dang dude, you're like Pandora. Only better, because you don't keep inexplicably throwing Johnny Cash songs my way. These were all pretty good, although the classical tended to be a bit slow for my tastes - I like the big, vibrant, Beethoven stuff.

Well, I do have the added advantage of being a human. A program recommending music to someone strikes me as a touch odd, anyway. But, faster tempo, okay. I'll see what I can do. Again, I don't really listen to this kind of contemporary classical, myself, so my knowledge on it is patchy, but I'm sure I can research it for you.

[Worira]

ooh I know this one

it's "virtually everything by Ke$ha"

[DJ Yung Crunk]

ooh I know this one

it's "virtually everything by Ke$ha"

That sounds like a challenge. :smallwink:

[Teddy]

Cloudberries are so heavenly. Dunno if you have this cheese in Sweden, but in Finland we have "bread cheese" (squeaky cheese) that is so divine with cloudberries. Om nom nom nom nooom.

Well, thanks to some Wikipedia, I now know we have a name for it ("kaffeost"), but I've never seen it myself, and I'll probably not like it either on the virtue of not liking cheese in general (I'm weird like that).


Dear Teddifer or Finnlicious, I will trade you an equal quantity of Saskatoon berry preserves for your magic Cloudberry jam? Consider it a cultural exchange. For I desire this thing.

That depends, are Saskatoon berry preserves food fit for kings? Because cloudberry jam is like heaven on a can (I mean, even the name says so), but it's also a limited commodity, so every jar gifted away is a jar less to survive the long winter on.

That said, I could perhaps nick one of the smallest jars when when we've cooked up a new batch by the end of this summer. They don't last long in a family of five, but a single man should probably get a few sittings out of them...


Xylophobia: Sadly not the fear of xylophones, it is the fear of wooden objects and forests.

So, by reverse engineering, I now know "xylo-" means "wood", which honestly makes a lot of sense, what with most respectable xylophones being made of wood, and therefore making wood sounds...


Um...

People keep talking about cloudberries, and it just makes me wonder what local fruit (though admittedly I don't know if it's native) is exotic or practically unknown elsewhere.

Blackberries? Blueberries? Raspberries? Strawberries?

Apricot? Plum? Nectarine?

Gooseberries? (disgusting, sour things, by the way. Apparently good in jam, though)

About all I can be confident in being known are apples and pears, and that's basically just because I know modern apple strains are mostly from Chinese crabapple and pears are something my British grandma's reminisced about.

Well, all of those with the sole exception of apricots and nectarines grow naturally around these parts, and those two exceptions are imported anyway.

And gooseberry jam, when done right, is awesome.


I literally cannot comprehend squeamishness. I just don't understand it.

Well, I wouldn't consider myself squeamish per se, but my circulatory system may be of another opinion...

I mean, we were dissecting squid in... 8th grade, I think, and that was just fun (I actually creeped out my lab partner by laughing through the whole exercise), but when we were to watch the dissection of a cows heart and lungs in what must've been 9th grade, something just said no in me, and I had to spend the class somewhere else.

Also, when we were visiting the blood bank sometime in high school, and I may very well have been the most interested of us all, and I never found the blood to be disgusting or anything, and yet, after a while, I had to start leaning against the walls whenever we made a stop in order to keep my balance, and after another while, I had to start crouching down or find something to sit on. Eventually, the nurse showing us around just told me to follow her, and lead me to their staff room, where I was served hot chocolate and cookies just to get my blood sugar values back to the reasonable. Mighty fun...


I must admit I want to try these cloudberries though. I wonder if it can be acquired through IKEA...


Possibly, but I wouldn't bet on it. It's a quite exclusive commodity, after all...


Is IKEA not a furniture store?

That's what we want you to think, a facade of a legitimate business built to cover our true agenda, namely, to infiltrate all cultures of the world and indiscernibly replace them with our own as a step futher our plans for Swedish world domination!
...
You didn't hear me say that...

[Dimonite]

It took me until this year to understand that there are actually people who don't think mummies and corpses are fascinating. Which I'm pretty sure determines my calling, since if it means so much to me I don't even understand not loving it, that's probably job satisfaction over there.


So I'm seeing you as an awesome mortician or M.E. of some kind. That sound about right? :smalltongue:



It was pretty funny. Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypZLnDaqo1M), watch. The quality is a bit crap, but it suffices.


Wait... how would a medieval dwarf even know what a nervous system was? Or how it affected the movement of the body?



Man, what a hooligan.


I also once touched the landspeeder from Star Wars. Only later did I learn that there was a sign saying not to touch it.

... No regrets.



They're quite amusing. One is constantly zoning out, doing weird things, and eating stuff, and the other is always frantically swimming against the glass following every finger movement and flipping out. In the ultimate wisdom of the sophomore class, they have been nicknamed Crackhead and Weeds.

I may or may not have been the one who first pointed out their behavioral idiosyncrasies in relation to drugs.

Well, I've found that most turtles tend to act like they're on weed. Turtles are pretty chill.




Dimonite. Part of me wants to say that's cool. The other part remembers seventh grade science and shudders for unrelated reasons. It was a nasty, hormonal time for all involved. Now I have a friend who teaches at that level, year in, year out. How does she stay sane?

I actually quite enjoyed seventh grade science. Freaking out my lab partners, getting data indicating the opposite of the results we were supposed to get, "accidentally" spilling chemicals on the people who made fun of me...

Good times.


Guys, if I may be permitted to steer the conversation back to music for a spell. Given the general attitude of discontent with Top 40 pop music in this thread, would you nice folks be averse to me whipping up a list of recent pop music that passed the airwaves by? Who knows? You might find something you like. It's a win-win because I, in return, get to dispell any unsavoury rumours about the 2010s being any less than the greatest decade in music history!


I would say 1930s. Because Sing, Sing, Sing. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_gW0VHBbSA) Although I do realize now that my knowledge of music is much more limited than I believed it to be, I'm reasonably certain that nothing's going to pass that up. :smalltongue:



Well, I do have the added advantage of being a human. A program recommending music to someone strikes me as a touch odd, anyway. But, faster tempo, okay. I'll see what I can do. Again, I don't really listen to this kind of contemporary classical, myself, so my knowledge on it is patchy, but I'm sure I can research it for you.

Thanks, man. I wouldn't even know where to start looking, and I do enjoy getting new music.

[Devmaar]

I think the Welsh are strange to the rest of the peoples of the British and/or Irish Isles. :smallconfused:

Pick any two subsets of 'British People'. They find each other strange.

RE Welsh stereotypes, there are many, but unfortunately few that are forum appropriate :smalltongue:


Well, I wouldn't consider myself squeamish per se, but my circulatory system may be of another opinion...

I mean, we were dissecting squid in... 8th grade, I think, and that was just fun (I actually creeped out my lab partner by laughing through the whole exercise), but when we were to watch the dissection of a cows heart and lungs in what must've been 9th grade, something just said no in me, and I had to spend the class somewhere else.

Also, when we were visiting the blood bank sometime in high school, and I may very well have been the most interested of us all, and I never found the blood to be disgusting or anything, and yet, after a while, I had to start leaning against the walls whenever we made a stop in order to keep my balance, and after another while, I had to start crouching down or find something to sit on. Eventually, the nurse showing us around just told me to follow her, and lead me to their staff room, where I was served hot chocolate and cookies just to get my blood sugar values back to the reasonable. Mighty fun...

Same here, I don't consciously find these things unpleasant but they do leave me light-headed


That's what we want you to think, a facade of a legitimate business built to cover our true agenda, namely, to infiltrate all cultures of the world and indiscernibly replace them with our own as a step futher our plans for Swedish world domination!
...
You didn't hear me say that...

Slightly related, my most successful Total War game ever was a game of Empire as Sweden which ended with me as the most powerful of 3 allied empires, controlling all but 1 territory of the Americas, one territory of India and more than half of Europe

[Amidus Drexel]

Guys, if I may be permitted to steer the conversation back to music for a spell. Given the general attitude of discontent with Top 40 pop music in this thread, would you nice folks be averse to me whipping up a list of recent pop music that passed the airwaves by? Who knows? You might find something you like. It's a win-win because I, in return, get to dispell any unsavoury rumours about the 2010s being any less than the greatest decade in music history!

Go ahead!

Well, I already had the impression that this decade was doing well in that regard. The past four years have had a bunch of great metal albums (among other things). :smalltongue:

[Qwertystop]

Bleh.

Just took the Math 2 SAT. One question on it made no sense - am I missing something or is it indefinitely recursive and thus unsolveable?



If F(x) = (x-1)F(x-1) for all rational x
And then it gave the value of F(0.4), which I don't remember, and asked for F(2.4).

Is this doable at all?

[factotum]

Is this doable at all?

Yes. F(2.4) = 1.4 * F(1.4); F(1.4) = 0.4 * F(0.4). Since you know the value of F(0.4) you don't need to iterate beyond that point and can solve the equation.

[Qwertystop]

Yes. F(2.4) = 1.4 * F(1.4); F(1.4) = 0.4 * F(0.4). Since you know the value of F(0.4) you don't need to iterate beyond that point and can solve the equation.

...Derp.

Hopefully I wasn't close enough that that one would make the difference...

[DJ Yung Crunk]

Although I do realize now that my knowledge of music is much more limited than I believed it to be, I'm reasonably certain that nothing's going to pass that up. :smalltongue:


Go ahead!

Awesome. I'm going to wait til I get a couple more clears first because this is going to be a lawng list.

[Teddy]

Bleh.

Just took the Math 2 SAT. One question on it made no sense - am I missing something or is it indefinitely recursive and thus unsolveable?

[...]

And then it gave the value of F(0.4), which I don't remember, and asked for F(2.4).

Is this doable at all?

As Factotum said, if you're told to assume the value of F(0.4) is a given value, you're free to substitute that value wherever applicable.

That said, going by their definition of F, if they didn't explicitly tell you to assume, you should be free to call them out on the fact that they're wrong and no actual value for F(x) exists unless x is a positive integer, since it's infinitely recursive. The same goes for any limits, as it switches sign between every iteration as soon as its argument passes below 0.


Awesome. I'm going to wait til I get a couple more clears first because this is going to be a lawng list.

Well, that's what spoiler boxes are for, is it not? :smallwink:

[Reinboom]

If the Math 2 SAT is a standardized test (Scholastic Assessment Test maybe? I don't know if qwertystop is in the U.S. or not), you can't really call the test out on much of anything.

[Amidus Drexel]

If the Math 2 SAT is a standardized test (Scholastic Assessment Test maybe? I don't know if qwertystop is in the U.S. or not), you can't really call the test out on much of anything.

Indeed it is. Most standardized tests are a load of crap, anyway.


Awesome. I'm going to wait til I get a couple more clears first because this is going to be a lawng list.

I wait in eagerish anticipation. :smallamused:

Hrm... on the note of music, what do you like to hear in music? What makes you like a song or artist, and what makes you dislike one?

[DJ Yung Crunk]

Well, that's what spoiler boxes are for, is it not? :smallwink:

Fair enough...


Hrm... on the note of music, what do you like to hear in music? What makes you like a song or artist, and what makes you dislike one?

Depends on the genre, really. Obviously expecting profound and creative lyricism out of, say, EDM just isn't going to fly. Also, I tend to listen to music album by album. Songs... They can be okay in certain cases, but for me I prefer the completeness and pacing of a full album.

[Coidzor]

The best thing is when they recycle questions from the AP U.S. History test and use them on the SAT 2 U.S. History test. :smallamused:

Why, yes, I did ace both.

[Deathkeeper]

The best thing is when they recycle questions from the AP U.S. History test and use them on the SAT 2 U.S. History test. :smallamused:

Why, yes, I did ace both.

I went to a school to take the Chemistry SAT 2. But I didn't bring my phone because I actually believed they'd confiscate it, and I told my dad the test was a lot longer than it was. Since the school had no payphones for some bizarre reasons, I asked if it was okay if I could sit and take the next test (World History) since I had time to kill. They said yes, didn't even charge me, and I scored a 780.
Then I had to walk 8 miles home in 80* weather anyway, but at least I owned that test.

[LaZodiac]

I've...never really taken any of those super special tests you Americans take :smalltongue:

[Taet]

It's already over 90 degrees or at least it feels like it. It is a good time to visit the yard sales though. Between the hosts wanting to pack up and move back into the air conditioning and the novelty value of someone visiting their sale by bike, discounts are frequent. And for once, I got through the entire morning without someone offering to buy the bike out from under me.

Are there people who don't solve equations that way? Or at least, who don't start by plugging in a value or two whether it's mentioned in the problem or not, and then leap to a conclusion based on which way the one or two solutions point? It never took very long to run 0.9 and 1.1 as samples.

I still await a yard sale where someone is selling off their math major college textbooks so I can practice this again. History majors sell often, and I bought some today. Science and math majors either hold on to their books or sell them somewhere else.

Eight miles is a respectable walk. Good for you! And if I remember the fees, getting to take a free SAT 2 is also very good.

[Qwertystop]

Are there people who don't solve equations that way? Or at least, who don't start by plugging in a value or two whether it's mentioned in the problem or not, and then leap to a conclusion based on which way the one or two solutions point? It never took very long to run 0.9 and 1.1 as samples.

I usually do, but this was the second test I was taking, I get time-and-a-half for unknown reason, and it was the last question I was doing (skipping and coming back to it). So this was after almost three hours of sitting there taking tests first thing in the morning.

[Amidus Drexel]

Depends on the genre, really. Obviously expecting profound and creative lyricism out of, say, EDM just isn't going to fly. Also, I tend to listen to music album by album. Songs... They can be okay in certain cases, but for me I prefer the completeness and pacing of a full album.

I'll pick a genre, then. How about 70's prog?

Albums are indeed better; they flow. I can't listen to Wake Up Dead without hearing The Conjuring in my head right after it finishes.


The best thing is when they recycle questions from the AP U.S. History test and use them on the SAT 2 U.S. History test. :smallamused:

Why, yes, I did ace both.

Well, you know what they say: History repeats itself. :smallamused:

NERD! (http://youtu.be/Eip7Pn3rSgQ?t=30s)


It's already over 90 degrees or at least it feels like it. It is a good time to visit the yard sales though. Between the hosts wanting to pack up and move back into the air conditioning and the novelty value of someone visiting their sale by bike, discounts are frequent. And for once, I got through the entire morning without someone offering to buy the bike out from under me.

Eight miles is a respectable walk. Good for you! And if I remember the fees, getting to take a free SAT 2 is also very good.

Painfully hot, is what it is. I can't stand this 30*C weather at all.

You'd save what, about $50, right? Very good indeed.

[DJ Yung Crunk]

I'll pick a genre, then. How about 70's prog?

Again. That's a little vague. Because are we talking, like, symphonic prog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k5xCkkQAEY), here? Avant-prog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESO6cNDjxpI)? Something else entirely (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPlMxnw9JHw)?

While all these subsets have "progression" in mind they differ greatly in presentation. Something like symphonic prog might be overtly melodic but emphasize a particular atmosphere in stark contrast to, say, some of the zeuhl or RIO blends which have no atmospheric aspirations and are all about progressive melodies and intricate, abstract arrangements. What defines success in both of these examples is hard for me to quantify, the best answer I can give outside of an album by album basis is "I'll know it when I hear it".


Albums are indeed better; they flow. I can't listen to Wake Up Dead without hearing The Conjuring in my head right after it finishes.

There are some exceptions, of course. A lot of the Phil Spector (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tipw66XjXn4) songs, for instance, work just fine on their own.

[Amidus Drexel]

Again. That's a little vague. Because are we talking, like, symphonic prog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k5xCkkQAEY), here? Avant-prog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESO6cNDjxpI)? Something else entirely (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPlMxnw9JHw)?

While all these subsets have "progression" in mind they differ greatly in presentation. Something like symphonic prog might be overtly melodic but emphasize a particular atmosphere in stark contrast to, say, some of the zeuhl or RIO blends which have no atmospheric aspirations and are all about progressive melodies and intricate, abstract arrangements. What defines success in both of these examples is hard for me to quantify, the best answer I can give outside of an album by album basis is "I'll know it when I hear it".

There are some exceptions, of course. A lot of the Phil Spector (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tipw66XjXn4) songs, for instance, work just fine on their own.

True. I was thinking more along the lines of symphonic prog. I rather like the third link, though; I haven't heard of those guys before. (not that Camel and Magma aren't awesome)

Hrm... Interesting absence of a process. I like to listen for skill and originality, whether that be of a technical nature, or a talent for songwriting. An artist (in any genre) playing the same riff or the same chord progression over again needs to make it interesting to listen to. Not to say that I dislike everything that isn't particularly technical or original (doom metal, for example, I rather enjoy, despite that most of the genre is paying homage to Master of Reality), but I find it easier to appreciate songs that show that sort of skill.

Indeed. Granted, a decent amount of the songs I like are an album's length anyways (or at least half of that), but they don't really count. :smallamused:

[DJ Yung Crunk]

True. I was thinking more along the lines of symphonic prog. I rather like the third link, though; I haven't heard of those guys before. (not that Camel and Magma aren't awesome)

Hrm... Interesting absence of a process. I like to listen for skill and originality, whether that be of a technical nature, or a talent for songwriting. An artist (in any genre) playing the same riff or the same chord progression over again needs to make it interesting to listen to. Not to say that I dislike everything that isn't particularly technical or original (doom metal, for example, I rather enjoy, despite that most of the genre is paying homage to Master of Reality), but I find it easier to appreciate songs that show that sort of skill.

Indeed. Granted, a decent amount of the songs I like are an album's length anyways (or at least half of that), but they don't really count. :smallamused:

Technical ability is impossibly boring to me. Proficiency alone does not constitute engaging music (see also; Dream Theatre) whereas absolutely lousy playing with strength of character and writing is perfectly acceptable to me. Originality can be hard to define and, either way, I'm not sure I put that much stock in it. Or, at the very least, I don't deduct points for a lack of originality. It's just as noble to play something established well, I think. Rock has pretty much been mapped out anyway, unless there's someone out there waiting to surprise me.

[Amidus Drexel]

Technical ability is impossibly boring to me.

Proficiency alone does not constitute engaging music (see also; Dream Theatre) whereas absolutely lousy playing with strength of character and writing is perfectly acceptable to me.

Originality can be hard to define and, either way, I'm not sure I put that much stock in it.

Or, at the very least, I don't deduct points for a lack of originality. It's just as noble to play something established well, I think. Rock has pretty much been mapped out anyway, unless there's someone out there waiting to surprise me.

Huh. Are you a musician yourself?

Bah, Dream Theater is awesome. Every single one of them are spectacular musicians, and they write good songs, to boot. In The Presence of Enemies pt. 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhHNZXO-RE0) does a good job with the technical stuff and stays engaging (well, at least to me) throughout. Wait for Sleep/Learning to Live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXCBzUYz_ow) is spectacular, and save for the solos, I'd hesitate to call the song exceptionally technical.

As long as it doesn't distract from the music itself, sure. No one's going to call Neil Young or Bob Dylan an epic guitar player (or singer, for that matter), but both wrote and performed a bunch of excellent songs. Just because a song is technically challenging doesn't make it bad, though. I just enjoy hearing complicated music.

Something that sounds different or does something unexpected with a standard song chassis or band arrangement. Coming up with something entirely new might be fairly uncommon (or nigh impossible, depending on what one considers new), but an artist that does a very different take on genre conventions (or throws them out) is being original, and I normally find that entertaining to listen to. And, most of the time, the people that do those things are good songwriters/musicians in their own right, and I can enjoy the songs on their own merit after the novelty fades.

I can support that, but I get tired of hearing the same I/IV/V or I/V/vi/IV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQ) songs over and over again with slightly different lyrics. If I can sing six or seven other songs to the same tune, then the artist hasn't really written anything. There's nothing noble about playing something that's essentially a cover of something else without acknowledging the fact (in which case it's just a cover, which is fine by me, just not particularly interesting), or changing it up (see Van Halen's cover of Dancing in the Street (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5qT2C_Ggpg) compared to the original (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS9lOH6rIkI)); otherwise you've not done anything, and I'd rather listen to something else.

[DJ Yung Crunk]

Huh. Are you a musician yourself?

Nope. Just a listener.


Bah, Dream Theater is awesome. Every single one of them are spectacular musicians, and they write good songs, to boot. In The Presence of Enemies pt. 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhHNZXO-RE0) does a good job with the technical stuff and stays engaging (well, at least to me) throughout. Wait for Sleep/Learning to Live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXCBzUYz_ow) is spectacular, and save for the solos, I'd hesitate to call the song exceptionally technical.

Sorry. You're not going to sell me on them. I think they're absolute, showy trash. All gaudy tricks and showy theatrics and little genuine substance or earnestness. At least, I don't hear it.


As long as it doesn't distract from the music itself, sure. No one's going to call Neil Young or Bob Dylan an epic guitar player (or singer, for that matter), but both wrote and performed a bunch of excellent songs. Just because a song is technically challenging doesn't make it bad, though. I just enjoy hearing complicated music.

I would call them both exceptional singers, actually. Again, I prefer emotiveness and strength of character over "traditional" values. Some of my favorite vocalists ever, like Wayne Coyne or Mark E Smith, can't hold a tune with a bucket but that's not really the point. And, no, I didn't mean to imply technical ability is bad. You can marry technicality and writing, and many artists have.


Something that sounds different or does something unexpected with a standard song chassis or band arrangement. Coming up with something entirely new might be fairly uncommon (or nigh impossible, depending on what one considers new), but an artist that does a very different take on genre conventions (or throws them out) is being original, and I normally find that entertaining to listen to. And, most of the time, the people that do those things are good songwriters/musicians in their own right, and I can enjoy the songs on their own merit after the novelty fades.

So do I. I'm just saying, let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Originality might be noble but it shouldn't be the only thing that's valued, that's dumb as hell. Both extremes are kind of baffling, actually. Blind traditionalism leads to stagnation and invention for it's own sake is pointless, pretentious and hollow.


I can support that, but I get tired of hearing the same I/IV/V or I/V/vi/IV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQ) songs over and over again with slightly different lyrics. If I can sing six or seven other songs to the same tune, then the artist hasn't really written anything. There's nothing noble about playing something that's essentially a cover of something else without acknowledging the fact (in which case it's just a cover, which is fine by me, just not particularly interesting), or changing it up (see Van Halen's cover of Dancing in the Street (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5qT2C_Ggpg) compared to the original (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS9lOH6rIkI)); otherwise you've not done anything, and I'd rather listen to something else.

Bah, your entire premise is that the melody is the only thing important. Unless we're singing these songs in a bar it really isn't and the value that's been placed on it vastly misguided. Aside from the fact that appreciating melody above all else excludes whole genres (like hip hop, ambient, drone and many of the more experimental types of contemporary classical) it just strikes me that many genres that DO feature melody emphasize other things entirely. Shoegaze, for instance. No one would claim the hooks in those songs are breaking down barriers but if you're going to chastise shoegaze for using the same old chords it strikes me as missing the point entirely. The "tune", as it were, is only one of many aspects of music. Albeit the most easily recognised.

[TaiLiu]

...
You didn't hear me say that...
Oh, most certainly not!

You'd save what, about $50, right? Very good indeed.
Very, very good! Speaking of tests and money - do those tests reduce or delete the price for low-income families?

[Coidzor]

Very, very good! Speaking of tests and money - do those tests reduce or delete the price for low-income families?

Depends on the school and/or school district, I believe.

Around here they did when I went through. With what I hear these days, who knows?

[Amidus Drexel]

Sorry. You're not going to sell me on them. I think they're absolute, showy trash. All gaudy tricks and showy theatrics and little genuine substance or earnestness. At least, I don't hear it.

I would call them both exceptional singers, actually. Again, I prefer emotiveness and strength of character over "traditional" values. Some of my favorite vocalists ever, like Wayne Coyne or Mark E Smith, can't hold a tune with a bucket but that's not really the point. And, no, I didn't mean to imply technical ability is bad. You can marry technicality and writing, and many artists have.

So do I. I'm just saying, let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Originality might be noble but it shouldn't be the only thing that's valued, that's dumb as hell. Both extremes are kind of baffling, actually. Blind traditionalism leads to stagnation and invention for it's own sake is pointless, pretentious and hollow.

Bah, your entire premise is that the melody is the only thing important. Unless we're singing these songs in a bar it really isn't and the value that's been placed on it vastly misguided. Aside from the fact that appreciating melody above all else excludes whole genres (like hip hop, ambient, drone and many of the more experimental types of contemporary classical) it just strikes me that many genres that DO feature melody emphasize other things entirely. Shoegaze, for instance. No one would claim the hooks in those songs are breaking down barriers but if you're going to chastise shoegaze for using the same old chords it strikes me as missing the point entirely. The "tune", as it were, is only one of many aspects of music. Albeit the most easily recognised.


To each their own, I suppose, and I'll just have to disagree with you on this one.

A good mix of the two, I think, is preferable. I'd like singers to be able to, well, sing, but it sounds orders of magnitude better if they do more than just hit the notes. I think we're both saying the same thing here...

Agreed here as well.

Not at all! Quite the opposite; I'm complaining about when the entire structure of songs are all but completely identical. The only thing that gets close to being changed in a bunch of those songs is the melody. Sure, it's important sometimes, but that wasn't what I was getting at. (and I rather enjoy some types of melody-less music - or music with enough simultaneous melodies they may as well be called harmonies). Perhaps I could have phrased it better.


Very, very good! Speaking of tests and money - do those tests reduce or delete the price for low-income families?

I'm fairly confident that you can get fee waivers for the SAT, although I've never looked into that myself. They do try to make it reasonably easy for people to get to the place and take it.

[DJ Yung Crunk]

A good mix of the two, I think, is preferable. I'd like singers to be able to, well, sing, but it sounds orders of magnitude better if they do more than just hit the notes. I think we're both saying the same thing here...

Well "singing" is a term that's up for debate. It could be argued that what Mark E Smith (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dDjGVNj2Q8) does isn't singing at all. Personally I prefer the term "vocalist" because it pertains to a wider range of vocal styles (like screaming and rapping) and has less implications than "singing". So, really, what I prefer from my vocalists are distinctness and emotiveness. I don't really care for the values placed upon "singers", however, as hitting all the notes has always struck me as a bit clinical. Once again, preferably you should be able to marry the two. Scott Walker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBkK3RhN73g) was basically the most professional vocalist in the entire world but never at the cost the emotional weight of the performance. It was immaculate but never clinical.


Not at all! Quite the opposite; I'm complaining about when the entire structure of songs are all but completely identical. The only thing that gets close to being changed in a bunch of those songs is the melody. Sure, it's important sometimes, but that wasn't what I was getting at. (and I rather enjoy some types of melody-less music - or music with enough simultaneous melodies they may as well be called harmonies). Perhaps I could have phrased it better.

Well that might be on me. I've been up for a while. This is (basically) the second sunrise I've seen since I last slept.

[Drakeburn]

Well, today was really bumpy for me.

I returned my library books a week late (I found out after the last day of my "personal challenge"), so I returned the books, and found out that instead of my library card, I grabbed a damaged gift card by mistake (I forgot to take it out before I started doing laundry). However, the library was also having a book sale, and I ended up getting an R.A. Salvatore book, The Halfling's Gem for just 50 cents.

So, today has been a good day for me so far.

So, what are you guys up to?

[Amidus Drexel]

-snip-

Well that might be on me. I've been up for a while. This is (basically) the second sunrise I've seen since I last slept.

Well, exact terminology aside, I think we're on similar sides of this one. :smalltongue: (even though I think I care a little more about the technical bits and you a bit more about the viscera of it)

Scott Walker is indeed an impressive singer. (and that's some pretty damn good audio quality for a 1968 video, too).


I returned my library books a week late (I found out after the last day of my "personal challenge"), so I returned the books, and found out that instead of my library card, I grabbed a damaged gift card by mistake (I forgot to take it out before I started doing laundry). However, the library was also having a book sale, and I ended up getting an R.A. Salvatore book, The Halfling's Gem for just 50 cents.

So, what are you guys up to?

Well, I hope you didn't have too much trouble from it. :/

Nice. Is it a good book?

Nothing much, really. I've started typing something I meant to do much earlier this week, but that's about it.

[Kneenibble]

Um...

People keep talking about cloudberries, and it just makes me wonder what local fruit (though admittedly I don't know if it's native) is exotic or practically unknown elsewhere.

Blackberries? Blueberries? Raspberries? Strawberries?

Apricot? Plum? Nectarine?

Gooseberries? (disgusting, sour things, by the way. Apparently good in jam, though)

About all I can be confident in being known are apples and pears, and that's basically just because I know modern apple strains are mostly from Chinese crabapple and pears are something my British grandma's reminisced about.

When I lived in Chennai, there were apples amidst the mangoes, mangosteens, jackfruit, melons, sapodas, little bananas like in that other thread, &c. but they were really expensive and quite mealy and flavourless. However they were considered exotic; a friend I made offered to buy me one because I was a foreigner. Pears were unheard of, and the only berries I saw were in jam in a deserted western-style bakery.

Granted I was in Chennai, which is the Winnipeg of India, so I can't speak for the fruit situation of the whole nation.



Thats our Kneenibbler! :smallbiggrin: That reminds me, I need to acquire Saskatoon berries.

This, in turn, reminds me that I saw something called "Christmas Jam" at my local farmer's market...

That reminds me, can budgies eat rocky road ice cream? :smallconfused:

If I had any room left in my garden, which is already busting at the seams, I would plant some Saskatoons. Saskatoon is a lovely place to visit, by the by, although you won't find many berries thereabouts unless by berries you mean VD.

Was there rhubarb? Or was it something gimmicky with cloves?

Even if chocolate weren't highly poisonous to badgerigars, it would be liable to make fat badgerigar.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/15c8baf9850dcfcfd2c577b65c83fd71/tumblr_mnoy17lWpp1qctfk6o1_500.jpg


Is that some kind of innuendo?

That's got to be some kind of innuendo...

On the surface it may seem so, but don't be fooled (http://youtu.be/tyQvjKqXA0Y), sweet Coidzilliad.


And what an impulse it is. Though, I must confess that I have never heard of black wine before. I am intrigued by the concept...

It is merely poetic, I'm afraid: if you get a dark Syrah or Merlot in a glass without enough lead in the crystal to make it twinkle, it will seem nearly black. But then you will have more trouble acquiring the noble indignity of gout: a difficult decision any day.



That depends, are Saskatoon berry preserves food fit for kings? Because cloudberry jam is like heaven on a can (I mean, even the name says so), but it's also a limited commodity, so every jar gifted away is a jar less to survive the long winter on.

That said, I could perhaps nick one of the smallest jars when when we've cooked up a new batch by the end of this summer. They don't last long in a family of five, but a single man should probably get a few sittings out of them...

I'm afraid you would make this barter at a loss: Saskatoon berries are not particularly remarkable, only different and probably not available in pulchra Suecia. They have a dark intense flavour sort of vaguely like a blueberry meeting a raisin. It is not a princely jam suited for this exchange.

I'm certaign I could wrangle up a suitable counter-offer in time, though.


That's what we want you to think, a facade of a legitimate business built to cover our true agenda, namely, to infiltrate all cultures of the world and indiscernibly replace them with our own as a step futher our plans for Swedish world domination!
...
You didn't hear me say that...

If I betray my people to usher in the new Swedish world order, may I be excused from state-enforced lagom to freely pursue crapulence and excess? Or need I muster up a budgie insurrection to throw off the awful yoke of efficiency and modestness?

[Dimonite]

So my second cousin got married today! Normally this wouldn't be occasion for comment - I mean, most people aren't that close with their second cousins. But I grew up with her kid from a previous marriage - he and I are more like brothers than cousins. So I'm a happy dragonpuppy today! :smallbiggrin:

Also, I made a squeesome little friend, whose picture I already put up in the You! thread, but I think he'll fit in here as well.


He's so tiny on my boot...
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/249196_658261554191373_1878921115_n.jpg

[Amidus Drexel]

So my second cousin got married today! Normally this wouldn't be occasion for comment - I mean, most people aren't that close with their second cousins. But I grew up with her kid from a previous marriage - he and I are more like brothers than cousins. So I'm a happy dragonpuppy today! :smallbiggrin:

Also, I made a squeesome little friend, whose picture I already put up in the You! thread, but I think he'll fit in here as well.


He's so tiny on my boot...
-sniiiiiip; mouseboot-

Congrats to the two of them! (Well, I'm close with some of my second cousins - the ones that live nearby, anyway).

Indeed. Tiny little mouse thingy. He would make good cat food. :smallamused:

[Dimonite]

Congrats to the two of them! (Well, I'm close with some of my second cousins - the ones that live nearby, anyway).


That's a lot how it worked out here, too. She had to go to work really long hours, so she would drop her son off at our house before school, and then pick him up at about 5:00, so we spent most of every weekday with him. We also had dinner with them every week, so they're really the closest family I have outside of my parents and siblings.



Indeed. Tiny little mouse thingy. He would make good cat food. :smallamused:

That's exactly what my mother said - make of that what you will.

[Drakeburn]

So my second cousin got married today! Normally this wouldn't be occasion for comment - I mean, most people aren't that close with their second cousins. But I grew up with her kid from a previous marriage - he and I are more like brothers than cousins. So I'm a happy dragonpuppy today! :smallbiggrin:

Also, I made a squeesome little friend, whose picture I already put up in the You! thread, but I think he'll fit in here as well.


He's so tiny on my boot...
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/249196_658261554191373_1878921115_n.jpg

1. Congrats with your second cousin's marriage!

2. Awwwww, look at the cute little mousey...........
*whacks Amidus Drexel's face*
Don't. You. Dare. Touch. That. Mouse!

[enderlord99]

Technical ability is impossibly boring to me.

Well, then, Emile (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez5o7pIfs9o)'s voice is presumably interesting to you.

[Amidus Drexel]

That's a lot how it worked out here, too. She had to go to work really long hours, so she would drop her son off at our house before school, and then pick him up at about 5:00, so we spent most of every weekday with him. We also had dinner with them every week, so they're really the closest family I have outside of my parents and siblings.

That's exactly what my mother said - make of that what you will.

Nice. It's good to be close with your relatives.

Your mother has a good sense of humor. :smallamused:



2. Awwwww, look at the cute little mousey...........
*whacks Amidus Drexel's face*
Don't. You. Dare. Touch. That. Mouse!

I was only going to pet it, George... :smallbiggrin:

[Dimonite]

1. Congrats with your second cousin's marriage!

2. Awwwww, look at the cute little mousey...........
*whacks Amidus Drexel's face*
Don't. You. Dare. Touch. That. Mouse!

Thanks! :smallbiggrin:

Agreed - he came to my boot for safety, and safety he shall have.


Nice. It's good to be close with your relatives.


It's definitely a good feeling, yes.



Your mother has a good sense of humor. :smallamused:


I'm pretty sure our cat was sitting on her when she made that comment, though. That may have influenced her frame of mind.



I was only going to pet it, George... :smallbiggrin:

DO NOT EVEN JOKE ABOUT OF MICE AND MEN. I'm legitimately tearing up right now just thinking about that book.

DON'T JUDGE ME.

[Amidus Drexel]

I'm pretty sure our cat was sitting on her when she made that comment, though. That may have influenced her frame of mind.

DO NOT EVEN JOKE ABOUT OF MICE AND MEN. I'm legitimately tearing up right now just thinking about that book.

DON'T JUDGE ME.

Well, cats are important (or at least want you to think that), so understandable.

...I can't think about that book without falling into a short giggling fit. :smallamused:

It's even funnier in the movie because of how abrupt they make it. I'm sorry, I can't stop laughing. :smallbiggrin:

[Dimonite]

Well, cats are important (or at least want you to think that), so understandable.


I do love my kitty... but I would never allow her to feast on that mouse.



...I can't think about that book without falling into a short giggling fit. :smallamused:

It's even funnier in the movie because of how abrupt they make it. I'm sorry, I can't stop laughing. :smallbiggrin:

What... how... did we even watch the same move/read the same book? That's one of the saddest moments in literary/film history! :smallannoyed:

[Amidus Drexel]

I do love my kitty... but I would never allow her to feast on that mouse.

What... how... did we even watch the same move/read the same book? That's one of the saddest moments in literary/film history! :smallannoyed:

Her loss, then. :smalltongue:

Amidus, your schadenfreude is showing...
Oops. *ziiiip*
Aw... :smallamused:
I may be somewhat of a horrible person. It's still funny.
It's sad they left out the part where Lennie was hallucinating in the movie though; that was one of the best parts of the book.

[Coidzor]

So my second cousin got married today! Normally this wouldn't be occasion for comment - I mean, most people aren't that close with their second cousins. But I grew up with her kid from a previous marriage - he and I are more like brothers than cousins. So I'm a happy dragonpuppy today! :smallbiggrin:

Always fun. :smallbiggrin:

Family is family, and those who get to know them and not end up murdering one another are, well, y'know, fortunate.


Also, I made a squeesome little friend, whose picture I already put up in the You! thread, but I think he'll fit in here as well.


He's so tiny on my boot...
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/249196_658261554191373_1878921115_n.jpg

Do you have the wild empathy class feature or the outdated animal friendship spell? :smalltongue:


If I had any room left in my garden, which is already busting at the seams, I would plant some Saskatoons. Saskatoon is a lovely place to visit, by the by, although you won't find many berries thereabouts unless by berries you mean VD.

Was there rhubarb? Or was it something gimmicky with cloves?

Sadly I doubt it, given my luck with such things. I seem to be the oddest of creatures, I'm not nearly the social recluse that uses introversion as an excuse for being rude and misanthropic and I don't get along with people or like being around them nearly so well to count as an extrovert... :smallconfused: I even got as close as possible to a "null" value on that aspect of the Myer's-Briggs...

Don't know. Was actually there on business, just noticed it while they were getting what I was picking up for work ready. Next time I go in on my own time I'll actually read more of the label.


Even if chocolate weren't highly poisonous to badgerigars, it would be liable to make fat badgerigar.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/15c8baf9850dcfcfd2c577b65c83fd71/tumblr_mnoy17lWpp1qctfk6o1_500.jpg

On the surface it may seem so, but don't be fooled (http://youtu.be/tyQvjKqXA0Y), sweet Coidzilliad.

It is merely poetic, I'm afraid: if you get a dark Syrah or Merlot in a glass without enough lead in the crystal to make it twinkle, it will seem nearly black. But then you will have more trouble acquiring the noble indignity of gout: a difficult decision any day.

Fwufffffffffffff.... *drools*

Ahh. I thought it had rung a bell, just... from something more obscene...

Well, I don't drink from crystal anyway. I'm lucky if a glass wine glass lasts very long around me...x.x


I'm afraid you would make this barter at a loss: Saskatoon berries are not particularly remarkable, only different and probably not available in pulchra Suecia. They have a dark intense flavour sort of vaguely like a blueberry meeting a raisin. It is not a princely jam suited for this exchange.

Sounds worth trying though, but I don't have anything nearly as nifty.

I wonder if lingonberries are related to cloudberries.... *wanders off to google*

[Teddy]

I'm afraid you would make this barter at a loss: Saskatoon berries are not particularly remarkable, only different and probably not available in pulchra Suecia. They have a dark intense flavour sort of vaguely like a blueberry meeting a raisin. It is not a princely jam suited for this exchange.

That's not entirely true, they exist in a wildened state in small numbers here as well, and they have a Swedish name. I've never seen one myself, and you never encounter their berries, though...


I'm certaign I could wrangle up a suitable counter-offer in time, though.

Then we'll see, then we'll see...


If I betray my people to usher in the new Swedish world order, may I be excused from state-enforced lagom to freely pursue crapulence and excess? Or need I muster up a budgie insurrection to throw off the awful yoke of efficiency and modestness?

Well, we may very well create an enclave for the embellished excentric like you...


Also, I made a squeesome little friend, whose picture I already put up in the You! thread, but I think he'll fit in here as well.


He's so tiny on my boot...
*mousieeee*

It's so cuuute! :3

Also, I envy your boots. I've been looking around for years for such boots to use in the winter, but they only seem to be produced for kids, because some intelligent designer must've thought only kids will ever have to trudge through slush...


I wonder if lingonberries are related to cloudberries.... *wanders off to google*

No, cloudberries are related to raspberries, while lingonberries are related to blueberries.

[Dimonite]

Always fun. :smallbiggrin:

Family is family, and those who get to know them and not end up murdering one another are, well, y'know, fortunate.


Well, you know how it is - sometimes you want to murder your family members, but then you remember that you love them. :smalltongue:



Do you have the wild empathy class feature or the outdated animal friendship spell? :smalltongue:


If I had to guess, I'd say wild empathy, just because it's continuously active. I don't think I've ever not gotten along with an animal. Heck, I couldn't even chase this mouse into the woods (which I tried to do so that no one accidentally stepped on him) because he would just hug my boots every time I tried. But when my dad stepped near him, he would run away, so I got my dad to chase him into the woods.




It's so cuuute! :3

Also, I envy your boots. I've been looking around for years for such boots to use in the winter, but they only seem to be produced for kids, because some intelligent designer must've thought only kids will ever have to trudge through slush...


I named him Leo. Y'know, for irony's sake.

Well those are my winter boots, but I've discovered that their waterproofness is also useful in muddy times. And I would have thought that Sweden would have had all sorts of nice winter boots - it's even colder there than it is here, and we sell winter boots like that year-round.

[Elemental]

Well... Mynxae was visiting me these past few days. And I have worked out that I am a terrible host unless there's something to do. But alas, there wasn't and one can only play so much Magic.
Oh well... I'm sure he had a nice time anyway.



So, um, announcement, I have just made another one of my fabulous chocolate and cake tiramisu's (the recipe is loosely bad on Tiramisu and pretty much a guarantee to contract obesity, if only it didn't taste as godly as it does). Now to wait for a day and then it should be good for stuffing people at my B-day party tomorrow. :smallcool:

Hopefully I'm not too late...

Happy birthday!
http://www.allsparkfireworks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/blog-firework-dream.jpg



Apricots or Nectarines and Nectarines are probably more obscure. IIRC, good apricots are still difficult-ish to get, in the same way that actually good varieites of banana are all but nonexistent in the U.S. market, being displaced by the Cavendish(?) variety.

Though they're all pretty good things to have around, if something that most grocery stores in the U.S. will stock at one point or another as the seasons turn.

Wait... You can't easily get apricots where you live? Strange... Apricots and nectarines are readily available here. Especially at Christmas. I certainly wouldn't classify them as exotic.



AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAH WHY DID I READ THAT.

I'm really shocked that you enjoyed dissecting stuff. I have no personal opinion AGAINEST doing it, but I myself would be incapable of doing it ....there isn't a sick smily, but lets just say I'd throw up.

I'm with you there LaZodiac. I can read about dissections, look at them being performed, discuss the results, but as soon as I smell them, I'm out of the room.



Guys, if I may be permitted to steer the conversation back to music for a spell. Given the general attitude of discontent with Top 40 pop music in this thread, would you nice folks be averse to me whipping up a list of recent pop music that passed the airwaves by? Who knows? You might find something you like. It's a win-win because I, in return, get to dispell any unsavoury rumours about the 2010s being any less than the greatest decade in music history!

But the decade is still young! It may yet change its current course to even greater heights or flare brightly as it falls to it's own destruction like a falling star.



So, by reverse engineering, I now know "xylo-" means "wood", which honestly makes a lot of sense, what with most respectable xylophones being made of wood, and therefore making wood sounds...

All respectable xylophones are made of wood. If they aren't, then they aren't a xylophone.



That's what we want you to think, a facade of a legitimate business built to cover our true agenda, namely, to infiltrate all cultures of the world and indiscernibly replace them with our own as a step futher our plans for Swedish world domination!
...
You didn't hear me say that...

Hey! I've got no problem with Swedish world domination, but is the subversion of our culture really necessary? I mean... I'm sure being Swedish is great, but I'd rather remain an Australian...



Well, I've found that most turtles tend to act like they're on weed. Turtles are pretty chill.

Turtles have it all figured out. (http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/turtles.png)



Technical ability is impossibly boring to me. Proficiency alone does not constitute engaging music (see also; Dream Theatre) whereas absolutely lousy playing with strength of character and writing is perfectly acceptable to me.

After years of musical education, one finds they can't abide sloppy playing. I mean, once you've got articulation constantly forced on you, one can find it difficult to take an instrumentalist seriously if they play badly. And badly written lyrics stand out like a sore thumb as well because I was taught to analyse poems.
But that could just be my education ruining things for me. I enjoy skilled technical playing, but also well played simpler pieces and I enjoy things that are well sung by a person with a good voice. I just need to stop trying to apply the same principals I was taught with saxophone to vocals.



Nope. Just a listener.

I almost envy you. But then, I wouldn't trade the ability to play music for the ability to listen to music unimpeded.
Heavens... I sound like a snob of some kind.



Also, I made a squeesome little friend, whose picture I already put up in the You! thread, but I think he'll fit in here as well.


He's so tiny on my boot...
-a mouse-

This reminds me of the time I rescued a mouse from my cat. How she got it to fly through the air, I still have no idea. I mean... Logically, one knows they are vermin. But they're so tiny and adorable when they sit calmly in your hand after you save them from claws of death.



I may be somewhat of a horrible person. It's still funny.

Nonsense. I think you are definitely a decent person at heart.



In related news: Okay... It's not that related, and I'm not even sure it's news; ...
Damn... I forgot my news. Well, here's hoping I'll remember it in the morning.

[Amidus Drexel]

Also, I envy your boots. I've been looking around for years for such boots to use in the winter, but they only seem to be produced for kids, because some intelligent designer must've thought only kids will ever have to trudge through slush...


They don't have good boots in Sweden? Odd. One would think that'd be a good place to go to get boots.


Well, you know how it is - sometimes you want to murder your family members, but then you remember that you love them have ample motive and opportunity, and are therefore the prime suspect in any murder investigation. :smalltongue:

Fixed that for you. :smalltongue:


I almost envy you. But then, I wouldn't trade the ability to play music for the ability to listen to music unimpeded.
Heavens... I sound like a snob of some kind.

Nonsense. I think you are definitely a decent person at heart.

In related news: Okay... It's not that related, and I'm not even sure it's news; ...
Damn... I forgot my news. Well, here's hoping I'll remember it in the morning.

Most musicians are, aren't they? :smallamused: :smalltongue:

Perhaps... I just have this habit of laughing when people die in media... There's only been one or two times when a character's death managed to conjure a negative emotion from me.

Lemme guess, you have amnesia. :smallamused:

[Teddy]

All respectable xylophones are made of wood. If they aren't, then they aren't a xylophone.

Good point, but I prefer to leave a slot open for the occation someone actually manages to impress me...


Hey! I've got no problem with Swedish world domination, but is the subversion of our culture really necessary? I mean... I'm sure being Swedish is great, but I'd rather remain an Australian...

Well, how are we otherwise going to achieve it. I mean, our military might could only hope to become lagom at best...

That said, there was a decade or so in the early cold war when Sweden had the fourth largest airforce in the world...

ION:
Thunder! Sehr dramatisch!

[LaZodiac]

Thunder! Sehr dramatisch!

I think I know what that means! It means "so dramatic!" Thunder claps are infact dramatic, so I agree!

[Teddy]

They don't have good boots in Sweden? Odd. One would think that'd be a good place to go to get boots.

Well, we do have good boots, especially if you're looking for wellingtons, but rubber-footed winter boots are a rare commodity for some rather obscure reason...


I think I know what that means! It means "so dramatic!" Thunder claps are infact dramatic, so I agree!

Actually, it means "Very dramatic!", but yeah.

[LaZodiac]

Well, we do have good boots, especially if you're looking for wellingtons, but rubber-footed winter boots are a rare commodity for some rather obscure reason...

Actually, it means "Very dramatic!", but yeah.

If I was translating a video game, "so dramatic" would be accepted as an understand Woolsyism depending on the context :smallamused:

[DJ Yung Crunk]

But the decade is still young! It may yet change its current course to even greater heights or flare brightly as it falls to it's own destruction like a falling star.

I'm just going on what we've heard so far. But each year has gotten better and better and there's been nothing to suggest that won't continue.


After years of musical education, one finds they can't abide sloppy playing. I mean, once you've got articulation constantly forced on you, one can find it difficult to take an instrumentalist seriously if they play badly. And badly written lyrics stand out like a sore thumb as well because I was taught to analyse poems.
But that could just be my education ruining things for me. I enjoy skilled technical playing, but also well played simpler pieces and I enjoy things that are well sung by a person with a good voice. I just need to stop trying to apply the same principals I was taught with saxophone to vocals.

Partially why I haven't pursued any education (that and laziness.) The less I know about "the rules", as they were, the better. I don't like to commit myself to anything, I'd like to leave myself open to as many ideas and styles and sounds as possible. This is why I disagree with you folks on so many things. I don't think "crassness" should effect the quality of lyrics, I don't think "complexity" and "technicality" should be so valued, I don't think melody is more important as anything else. If I even consider these rules I might feel compelled to abide by them, even subconsciously, and nothing scares me more than arbitrarily limiting what type of music I listen to.

On top of that "the rules" I'd learn in music theory only cover popular, melodic western genres. Meanwhile they offer nothing in the way of educating someone on musique concrete, drone, ambient, noise, ambient tech and countless other genres. What if I want to "understand" more than just rock and pop? What If I'm not as enamoured with the myth of classical period's superiority? There are no unifying rules for ALL of music. Rock doesn't deserve my attention more than EAI just because it's more popular and widespread.

I mean, it's fine if you want to, but since I have no aspirations to create music of my own (not yet, at least, I'm trying to line up doing vocals for some people) I can't imagine getting much out of it, except maybe being even more of a snobbish pedant than I was before.


Guys, if I may be permitted to steer the conversation back to music for a spell. Given the general attitude of discontent with Top 40 pop music in this thread, would you nice folks be averse to me whipping up a list of recent pop music that passed the airwaves by?.

Once again polling interest in this

[LaZodiac]

Playing Oracle of Seasons, lovely nostalgia. I beat the Moth boss on my first try. Loli Zodi would be proud.

[Coidzor]

Also, I envy your boots. I've been looking around for years for such boots to use in the winter, but they only seem to be produced for kids, because some intelligent designer must've thought only kids will ever have to trudge through slush...

No, cloudberries are related to raspberries, while lingonberries are related to blueberries.

How unfortunate. And bizarre! :smallconfused: Winter boots aren't that common, being more seasonal in my neck of the woods, but managed to acquire them easily enough here. Though, I've had the same pair now since my feet stopped growing in highschool because there's not that much call for them so they've not gotten the wear and tear of my other foot-coverings.

Well, that's interesting. They do look marvelous.


Well, you know how it is - sometimes you want to murder your family members, but then you remember that you love them. :smalltongue:

If I had to guess, I'd say wild empathy, just because it's continuously active. I don't think I've ever not gotten along with an animal. Heck, I couldn't even chase this mouse into the woods (which I tried to do so that no one accidentally stepped on him) because he would just hug my boots every time I tried. But when my dad stepped near him, he would run away, so I got my dad to chase him into the woods.

Or at least that you'd be one of the first people suspected, aye. :smallwink:

Well, you've usually got to choose to use wild empathy. I suppose the alternative is that you're some form of Disney Princess? :smallconfused: But if that were the case it wouldn't have run away and instead would've climbed eagerly onto your hand....

Elemental Antfarm:

Well... Mynxae was visiting me these past few days. And I have worked out that I am a terrible host unless there's something to do. But alas, there wasn't and one can only play so much Magic.
Oh well... I'm sure he had a nice time anyway.

Wait... You can't easily get apricots where you live? Strange... Apricots and nectarines are readily available here. Especially at Christmas. I certainly wouldn't classify them as exotic.

Having a rough game plan helps a lot, yeah, even if you don't follow it.

Apricots are available here, seasonally. However, anyone who knows apricots insists that they don't travel well or we only get the bad ones or something. Generally, unless someone has a better source than a store, they're not worth it except as a dried fruit. Nectarines, on the other hand, are good, but, again, only available for a limited time seasonally. They're definitely not exotic to me. Other places, Iuno.


I'm with you there LaZodiac. I can read about dissections, look at them being performed, discuss the results, but as soon as I smell them, I'm out of the room.

But the decade is still young! It may yet change its current course to even greater heights or flare brightly as it falls to it's own destruction like a falling star.

It is a peculiarly disgusting scent. I have to take a break from it periodically myself.

One can only hope it goes well, but, precedent is a tricky thing.


All respectable xylophones are made of wood. If they aren't, then they aren't a xylophone.

Hey! I've got no problem with Swedish world domination, but is the subversion of our culture really necessary? I mean... I'm sure being Swedish is great, but I'd rather remain an Australian...

Not even bone? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkP5OtN0aCw) :smallamused:

I don't think you're quite grokking world domination then. :smalltongue:


I just need to stop trying to apply the same principals I was taught with saxophone to vocals.

What principles are those? Or principals, even? :smallconfused:


I almost envy you. But then, I wouldn't trade the ability to play music for the ability to listen to music unimpeded.
Heavens... I sound like a snob of some kind.

Well, it is a good skill. Usually it helps somewhat with being able to analyze other music to some extent at least, IIRC.

Detachment though... I'm not sure how people do that exactly with music.


This reminds me of the time I rescued a mouse from my cat. How she got it to fly through the air, I still have no idea. I mean... Logically, one knows they are vermin. But they're so tiny and adorable when they sit calmly in your hand after you save them from claws of death.

Well, unless the cat is actually going to eat it rather than slowly torture it for a while, it is a bit cruel to reward the cat for playing with them in front of you.

Mostly though it's things like wild rabbits and bats that I object to my cats catching and killing. Especially because one time our cat only stunned a baby rabbit and then brought it alive into the house as a present for us and that was... a stir.

...Also, the one time I know my cat caught a bat, it was because the bat did the phenomenally stupid thing of flying inside with my dad when he was bringing stuff in for dinner. Managed to catch the bat with a spectacular leap almost to the ceiling within a few seconds of it entering the building. I don't know if the bat was harmed at all, but we got it away from the cat pretty quickly and into a box and then they gave me some thick gloves and I took it over to put on one of the trees they climb up and live in, and it leaped out of my hand as I was lifting it up into the tree and flew off, so I think it was mostly just stunned and disoriented by the ordeal and then recovered in the process of being walked out in the confines of the box. Or possibly bucket....


In related news: Okay... It's not that related, and I'm not even sure it's news; ...
Damn... I forgot my news. Well, here's hoping I'll remember it in the morning.

Always fun.

Alhavium Crunkite:

Partially why I haven't pursued any education (that and laziness.) The less I know about "the rules", as they were, the better. I don't like to commit myself to anything, I'd like to leave myself open to as many ideas and styles and sounds as possible. This is why I disagree with you folks on so many things. I don't think "crassness" should effect the quality of lyrics, I don't think "complexity" and "technicality" should be so valued, I don't think melody is more important as anything else. If I even consider these rules I might feel compelled to abide by them, even subconsciously, and nothing scares me more than arbitrarily limiting what type of music I listen to.

Depends on the nature of the crassness, I suppose. I'm not opposed to f-bombs in my music, but if that's all there is, then it's kind of boring and unappealing to me on the merits of its lyrics and I find it weak as a main draw even with other elements supporting it. Though, I admit, I couldn't exactly explain how Frank Zappa's song along those lines is better, other than "Frank Zappa" and the humor of it.

I can excuse a lack of technical virtuosity in non-professionals, but it's hard to escape the sense that people using it to make a living should have achieved competency if not mastery. By repetition and practice if nothing else. I blame the Germans, since I think I got the idea that if a job's worth doing it's worth doing well from them.


On top of that "the rules" I'd learn in music theory only cover popular, melodic western genres. Meanwhile they offer nothing in the way of educating someone on musique concrete, drone, ambient, noise, ambient tech and countless other genres. What if I want to "understand" more than just rock and pop? What If I'm not as enamoured with the myth of classical period's superiority? There are no unifying rules for ALL of music. Rock doesn't deserve my attention more than EAI just because it's more popular and widespread.

Having the same knowledge base as those who rejected it can help highlight the departure and what principles were put together to serve as a substitute.

Though I think you might be surprised at how a good background can help with picking up and grokking other traditions.


Once again polling interest in this

I suppose I'd be interested to see what you've got.


Playing Oracle of Seasons, lovely nostalgia. I beat the Moth boss on my first try. Loli Zodi would be proud.

Man, there wasn't even a Shota-Coid anymore when Oracle of Seasons came out. :smallsigh:


Pick any two subsets of 'British People'. They find each other strange.

RE Welsh stereotypes, there are many, but unfortunately few that are forum appropriate :smalltongue:

You might even be able to get away with it if you excise the British from the equation. :smallamused:

The only ones I remember are about their prisons having a cannibalism problem from Yahtzee (http://www.fullyramblomatic.com/features/life.htm), or the one that all people from those islands have about all of the other people from those islands and sheep. :smallconfused:

edit:
Ami-jams:

As you wish (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88svMqo3ZEk). :smalltongue:

That's right, you do that barrel roll. :smallamused:


It is a fine art to master. :smallcool:

*electrocutes* DON'T YOU DUMP POPCORN ON ME

Till Wintertime at least. :smalltongue: Then the ants eat you. or not. (http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2596)

*pouts and sets fire to* Well you can forget about dinner, Mister!


Wut. :smallconfused:...:smallamused:

The Ur-Quan Masters (http://sc2.sourceforge.net/), dude. Check it out. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_EaN2vsCFg)

[DJ Yung Crunk]

Depends on the nature of the crassness, I suppose. I'm not opposed to f-bombs in my music, but if that's all there is, then it's kind of boring and unappealing to me on the merits of its lyrics and I find it weak as a main draw even with other elements supporting it. Though, I admit, I couldn't exactly explain how Frank Zappa's song along those lines is better, other than "Frank Zappa" and the humor of it.

That's rarely all there is. Sure some ringtone rap songs are shock value for its own sakes but anyone who honestly believes that niche is reflective of "negativity" in lyrics as a whole is reaching.


I can excuse a lack of technical virtuosity in non-professionals, but it's hard to escape the sense that people using it to make a living should have achieved competency if not mastery. By repetition and practice if nothing else. I blame the Germans, since I think I got the idea that if a job's worth doing it's worth doing well from them.

Why does it matter? Why do you care? If those flaws help enhance the performance then so what? I'm in this for the music, not for the faces behind it. People aren't music, they're the vessels for music's manifestation. It doesn't matter if the guy is making a living banging a guitar against a steel drum, if he's managed to make that sound "good" then he's won. He's succeeded. Effort and talent is human achievement and one you're free to talk about with someone who isn't me. Separating the art from the artist is one of the few music rules I like to live by.


Having the same knowledge base as those who rejected it can help highlight the departure and what principles were put together to serve as a substitute.

Though I think you might be surprised at how a good background can help with picking up and grokking other traditions.

That's a very good point, actually. Although it's predicated on these 'departures' being departures merely on the grounds of counter-culture and experimentation for its own sake, which isn't true in most cases. Also it'll cause me to disproportionately favour rock. Who's to say "rock" isn't the departure from musique concrete and modern classical? Again, merely by calling one thing a departure from another thing I'm setting myself limiting rules and implications.


I suppose I'd be interested to see what you've got.

Excellent. When this album is done I'll take a crack at it.

[LaZodiac]

Man, there wasn't even a Shota-Coid anymore when Oracle of Seasons came out. :smallsigh:

Jeez, really? It came out in like 2001!

[TaiLiu]

So, what are you guys up to?
I'm drinking water right now.

Also, I made a squeesome little friend, whose picture I already put up in the You! thread, but I think he'll fit in here as well.
A friend that your father shooed away moments later...

Well... Mynxae was visiting me these past few days. And I have worked out that I am a terrible host unless there's something to do. But alas, there wasn't and one can only play so much Magic.
Oh well... I'm sure he had a nice time anyway.
Just Magic? Nothing else?

[Taet]

That mouse is not cat food. It is a Toy. So according to one cat who views life as a series of Toys and Backscratchers. The other cat views all things as Food, so his opinion is not valid.

Local foods are strange. I couldn't find a local source for berry bushes unless, again, I went east and up into the foothills. But if I wanted lemons, hopping onto Freecycle in season, I could be invited to gather as many as I could pick. (How do you preserve that many lemons? I've seen candied lemons and lemons in wet preserve but have no idea what you would then use them for. Flavoring tea?)

I would take delight in a playlist, AllIHaveIsCrunk. Discussing it would be more difficult but I would try. But then, at this point, anything to stop the Detroit Spinners running through my mind would be welcome. They made good music which will not be dislodged.

[Coidzor]

Jeez, really? It came out in like 2001!

I had gone past the fur where there was no fur before stage, you see. :smalltongue: Too old to be a protagonist in a pokemon game, not old enough to be a protagonist in a persona game.


That's rarely all there is. Sure some ringtone rap songs are shock value for its own sakes but anyone who honestly believes that niche is reflective of "negativity" in lyrics as a whole is reaching.

True enough. Trying to shock me seems kind of pointless when they do attempt it though.


Why does it matter? Why do you care? If those flaws help enhance the performance then so what? I'm in this for the music, not for the faces behind it. People aren't music, they're the vessels for music's manifestation. It doesn't matter if the guy is making a living banging a guitar against a steel drum, if he's managed to make that sound "good" then he's won. He's succeeded. Effort and talent is human achievement and one you're free to talk about with someone who isn't me. Separating the art from the artist is one of the few music rules I like to live by.

Well, would I be able to count them as flaws if it enhanced the performance and my enjoyment of it?


That's a very good point, actually. Although it's predicated on these 'departures' being departures merely on the grounds of counter-culture and experimentation for its own sake, which isn't true in most cases. Also it'll cause me to disproportionately favour rock. Who's to say "rock" isn't the departure from musique concrete and modern classical? Again, merely by calling one thing a departure from another thing I'm setting myself limiting rules and implications.

Admittedly, I've not gone through the whole process and have only done my own independent study of musical theory, but learning it seems more to favor "classical" and baroque and maybe jazz rather than rock or pop, per se, and there's some amount of flexibility in where one focuses after basic principles.

It might be the scientists in my family tree and my own expectations of empiricism, but I'm naturally inclined to not believe people who contend that their work is incapable of being understood or categorized. Granted, most of that is because of the perception that most people who say that are charlatans unrelated to music...

Well, "rock" evolved from blues and other influences and stays within the western musical tradition of composition whereas musique concrete rejects such notions and relies upon a framework created in large part by a man who was either self-taught, or, more likely, had a background in western musical theory. It would seem to be a case where knowing what the rules are intimately better helped to break and/or depart from them and create new ones. Modern Classical, from what I've read and heard, also seems to mostly abide by rules of composition and timing, though various people experimented and still experiment in different ways.


Excellent. When this album is done I'll take a crack at it.

:smallsmile:

[LaZodiac]

I had gone past the fur where there was no fur before stage, you see. :smalltongue: Too old to be a protagonist in a pokemon game, not old enough to be a protagonist in a persona game.

Well the pokemon trainers have slowly been getting older, so there you go.

[TaiLiu]

Well the pokemon trainers have slowly been getting older, so there you go.
Are they? Interesting.

[LaZodiac]

Are they? Interesting.

Yup! It started in Black and White. In Black2 and White2, the new player characters are slightly older, and then in X and Y the art we've seen show they're quite older.

[TaiLiu]

Yup! It started in Black and White. In Black2 and White2, the new player characters are slightly older, and then in X and Y the art we've seen show they're quite older.
Ah! Fascinating! (How much older?)

[Amidus Drexel]

@AllIHaveIsCrunk

Partially why I haven't pursued any education (that and laziness.) The less I know about "the rules", as they were, the better. I don't like to commit myself to anything, I'd like to leave myself open to as many ideas and styles and sounds as possible. This is why I disagree with you folks on so many things. I don't think "crassness" should effect the quality of lyrics, I don't think "complexity" and "technicality" should be so valued, I don't think melody is more important as anything else. If I even consider these rules I might feel compelled to abide by them, even subconsciously, and nothing scares me more than arbitrarily limiting what type of music I listen to.



I don't quite see what your problem with technical ability is... You say that you don't want it to be valued at all (or at least you seem to say that), but you've never quite said why. I (and I think I speak for at least a few of the other people in this conversation, although they can correct me here if not) am not saying that I only like to listen to musicians that are virtuosically good at their instrument (and that includes vocals and other things used to make music), but that I have a hard time listening to musicians that are barely competent at what they do. Simple compositions can be good (I rather like Pink Floyd, and while all of them are good musicians, there isn't anything particularly flashy or technical about any of their pieces), but that doesn't mean that technically difficult ones are bad. You like Scott Walker because he's an excellent vocalist - you wouldn't like him as much (and neither would I, for that matter) if he was tone-deaf or didn't understand how to hold a tune. The ability to play with feeling is important; but you're discounting other important things as well, like having enough proficiency with your chosen instrument that your relative inability to perform doesn't detract from the music.

I'm not too picky about lyrics, honestly; obscene, funny, nonsensical, or otherwise. I've never cared much for the meaning that's written into them; I'm only interested in how the vocalist gives them life.

Those are arbitrary rules. Consciously choosing to ignore conventional "rules" is significantly more arbitrary than knowing how music works mechanically, then listening, composing, or playing what you want (regardless of convention) as it suits you. I rather enjoy a fair amount of things without melody or even harmony in a traditional sense, and being able to understand the musical score for the pieces hasn't inhibited me in that way at all.



On top of that "the rules" I'd learn in music theory only cover popular, melodic western genres. Meanwhile they offer nothing in the way of educating someone on musique concrete, drone, ambient, noise, ambient tech and countless other genres. What if I want to "understand" more than just rock and pop? What If I'm not as enamoured with the myth of classical period's superiority? There are no unifying rules for ALL of music. Rock doesn't deserve my attention more than EAI just because it's more popular and widespread.

I think you've got the idea backwards; music theory and "rules", as you say, are descriptive, not proscriptive. A specific sequence of notes is a musical scale (and a composition using those notes in in a key as well, as the two are related) - this is true whether or not one knows what that means. You don't need to use a scale to write a song, though, and you don't need to write a song in any particular key; hell, there's an entire subset of music (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serialism) (one could say it's more of a type of composing, but that's roughly the same thing) dedicated to not using traditional scales and keys, or often even traditional concepts like measures and tempo. If you're familiar with John Cage or Arnold Schoenberg, both of them wrote a great deal of pieces that don't follow "traditional" values of music.

What I'm getting at here is that music doesn't necessarily follow rules... one can write music that does, but just because you can do something doesn't mean you have to. The idea that you're limited in what you can listen to or that you would consider yourself limited in that manner just by having a mechanical understanding of music is silly (and this is coming from someone that listens to and can appreciate a wide variety of genres).



That's rarely all there is. Sure some ringtone rap songs are shock value for its own sakes but anyone who honestly believes that niche is reflective of "negativity" in lyrics as a whole is reaching.


Agreed here, although I think Coid was specifically calling out songs that do that. Also, rap is hardly alone in using sexually explicit or otherwise obscene lyrics.



Why does it matter? Why do you care? If those flaws help enhance the performance then so what? I'm in this for the music, not for the faces behind it. People aren't music, they're the vessels for music's manifestation. It doesn't matter if the guy is making a living banging a guitar against a steel drum, if he's managed to make that sound "good" then he's won. He's succeeded. Effort and talent is human achievement and one you're free to talk about with someone who isn't me. Separating the art from the artist is one of the few "rules" I like to live by.


Agreed... up to a point. The problem with your argument is that you are assuming (or at least seem to be) that a lack of technical ability enhances the music. To a point, I agree - music sounds better when it's a bit rough. A lack of technical ability in general, though, produces not only rough music, but poorly played music, which doesn't sound good. Have you ever listened to someone with no sense of time and no coordination whatsoever try to play a drum kit? Honestly, it's pretty damn funny. :smallamused: If that's what you're going for - great! If not... you have a horrible drummer that's going to distract the listener from the rest of the music, as the instrument will draw attention to itself by virtue of sucking.

Agreed on the rest, though. People and the music they play are entirely different creatures.



That's a very good point, actually. Although it's predicated on these 'departures' being departures merely on the grounds of counter-culture and experimentation for its own sake, which isn't true in most cases. Also it'll cause me to disproportionately favour rock. Who's to say "rock" isn't the departure from musique concrete and modern classical? Again, merely by calling one thing a departure from another thing I'm setting myself limiting rules and implications.

Excellent. When this album is done I'll take a crack at it.


In a sense, rock was more of a building on blues, folk, and country than actually departing from anything. All kinds of "departure" in music is going to be experimentation, for whatever reason the artist had at the time; genres tend to develop naturally as people build on what's come before, rather than because someone tried to do something completely different.

Dooooo itttttttt. :smallcool:




Depends on the nature of the crassness, I suppose. I'm not opposed to f-bombs in my music, but if that's all there is, then it's kind of boring and unappealing to me on the merits of its lyrics and I find it weak as a main draw even with other elements supporting it. Though, I admit, I couldn't exactly explain how Frank Zappa's song along those lines is better, other than "Frank Zappa" and the humor of it.

That's right, you do that barrel roll. :smallamused:

Till Wintertime at least. :smalltongue: Then the ants eat you. or not. (http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2596)

*pouts and sets fire to* Well you can forget about dinner, Mister!


The Ur-Quan Masters (http://sc2.sourceforge.net/), dude. Check it out. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_EaN2vsCFg)

Frank Zappa is an excellent composer and an equally talented musician (and, as it appears that I need to differentiate, in both a technical and a visceral sense); that a great deal of his lyrics aren't about anything meaningful doesn't take away from that.

:smallcool:

Heh. See, I like the message of this comic. Working hard is only as useful as the value other people put into it. :smallamused:

That's the third strike! You're out! Yeah, that popcorn was dinner. You did it to yourself.

Interesting...

[LaZodiac]

Ah! Fascinating! (How much older?)

Pretty older, as you can see. (http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/05/female-hero-610x366.jpg)

[TaiLiu]

Pretty older, as you can see. (http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/05/female-hero-610x366.jpg)
I do see. Hm.

[DJ Yung Crunk]

So, okay, here we go. This is my rough, rough, rough off the cuff list of 2010s pop music that, I hope, people find to be of a greater quality than Top 40. I repeat, much of this list isn't my personal preference, in fact a lot of these tracks I don't particularly care for myself, and I have no problem with Top 40 music, actually. So, I'd like to think I cast aside any bias and made a list that was, ideally, diverse enough to cater to, potentially, any possible preference for pop music. You'll see some soul, some synth pop, maybe something a little more rock infused, something a little traditional. Who knows, writing this paragraph I actually have no idea who'll make the cut.

Also, in order to stop this list from spiralling completely out of control I only went for "popular" pop artists (yeah yeah, I heard it too). This list could be impossibly large If I'm allowed to plumb the depths of soundcloud and bandcamp. But, for the purposes of "brevity", well known blog-friendly acts only.

But hey, let's give it a go! This is...
Crunk's List of Reasons You're Objectively Wrong For Disliking 2010s Pop Music

Lee Fields (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94o5Lli-9gA)
Laura Mvula (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qWuKSGii8o)
My Brightest Diamond (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y46ff6j0lVc)
Richard Hawley (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BguyBo-PamE)
Blood Orange (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTKgC1XSwgY)
The Stepkids (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLtt5Fi4Gbs)
St. Vincent (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itt0rALeHE8)
Jessie Ware (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMJkddvJ4L4)
Twin Sister (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbjLa9vbZe0)
Janelle Monae (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwnefUaKCbc)
Grimes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FH-q0I1fJY)
The Mountain Goats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bptnhUOG2GU)
Rhye (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sng_CdAAw8M)
First Aid Kit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDG8xqz7BIk)
Perfume Genius (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOpkr8uNWpk)
Alt-J (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVeMiVU77wo)
Woodkid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSkb0kDacjs)
Twin Shadow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiC9XNQSxFQ)
Trust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuiKeaqERTU)
Foxygen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPmAO4xpQcE)
Matthew Dear (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7GB8IJs6ic)
Crocodiles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6qOGnP4PEI)
Everything Everything (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKKMfJ8cZoQ)
Toro Y Moi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0_ardwzTrA)
Kishi Bashi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C6g7JfYztE)
Unknown Mortal Orchestra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-36lCKovBg)
Youth Lagoon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSXyr6im7kk)
Active Child (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9SNJC3YcTQ)
Craft Spells (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXrlH-dgxvY)
Braids (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RnfroBOgO0)
Metronomy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFrNsSnk8GM)
TV on the Radio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXLpXu9T7j0)
Autre Ne Veut (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPJdcof6IKY)
inc. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmVdK_PM3dc)
The Wonder Years (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiCit3G4YRU)
Rover (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbvuknyfe3k)
Glasser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP2YydjRRUk)
Fiona Apple (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIlLq4BqGdg)
Destroyer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puu3IvKnSb4)
Cloud Nothings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l5lJDvqWi4)
Wild Nothing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTkZnRwUFUk)
Wild Beasts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUJYqhKZrwA)
JMSN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EH9xuMccy4)
Veronica Falls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A8yRqDIrBw)
Dum Dum Girls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3f9ZiH6Euw)
Solange (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy9W_mrY_Vk)
Grizzly Bear (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuG9i5cwGW0)
Bill Callahan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMQ0CeXYd54)
Light Asylum (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPhoE9yz-nI)
Beach House (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfzFVbkutFE)
Tennis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6024bksBTVY)
Fear of Men (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gASrrQyZqXk)
Orcas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSlWUwlyOp0)
Ice Choir (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsW_KCyCKoE)
Vivian Girls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uubJ7IzOrEE)
The Head and the Heart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iSQGWpy0qY)
Dumbo Gets Mad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5zkD6xNjG4)
The History of Apple Pie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU3u-34JJdc)
Chairlift (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98XRKr19jIE)
Violens (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpRICNLMPYI)
Cut Copy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2xovJyBo-0)

Man, I'm getting sleepy. Maybe I'll add some more when I can remember things better. Hope that'll work for now

[TaiLiu]

Crunk's List of Reasons You're Objectively Wrong For Disliking 2010s Pop Music
Aw, man! :mitd:

[DJ Yung Crunk]

Coidzor

Well, would I be able to count them as flaws if it enhanced the performance and my enjoyment of it?

No, that's my point. We appear to agree here.


Well, "rock" evolved from blues and other influences and stays within the western musical tradition of composition whereas musique concrete rejects such notions and relies upon a framework created in large part by a man who was either self-taught, or, more likely, had a background in western musical theory.

I know, I was just using an example. For the purposes of the conversation I'm just painting things in black and white, and I'll stop when it becomes a problem. Rock seemed as good a word as any for "the type of music people who aren't into music listen to"

Amidus Drexel

I don't quite see what your problem with technical ability is... You say that you don't want it to be valued at all (or at least you seem to say that), but you've never quite said why. I (and I think I speak for at least a few of the other people in this conversation, although they can correct me here if not) am not saying that I only like to listen to musicians that are virtuosically good at their instrument (and that includes vocals and other things used to make music), but that I have a hard time listening to musicians that are barely competent at what they do. Simple compositions can be good (I rather like Pink Floyd, and while all of them are good musicians, there isn't anything particularly flashy or technical about any of their pieces), but that doesn't mean that technically difficult ones are bad. You like Scott Walker because he's an excellent vocalist - you wouldn't like him as much (and neither would I, for that matter) if he was tone-deaf or didn't understand how to hold a tune. The ability to play with feeling is important; but you're discounting other important things as well, like having enough proficiency with your chosen instrument that your relative inability to perform doesn't detract from the music.

You have completely read me wrong and, honestly, that's because I completely read you wrong. This whole time I was assuming you were valuing technical ability as much as the compositions themselves, which is appreciating the artist over the art which, as I would go on to say, is dumb as hell. I have no problem with technical ability at all, it just shouldn't take precedence over the compositions. Some things require technical ability to be played well, so it's totally appropriate in that context.

My point was, if there's a context for these flaws OR if the music doesn't demand an especially developed command of whatever instrument then it shouldn't matter if the player isn't that good at it. Take a hypothetical 3 chord pop punk band who intentionally records lo-fi for a rustic feel. That these guys don't play especially well and hit a few bum notes here and there doesn't bother me, because it plays into and may actually enhance their music. If someone completely cocked up a 20 minute prog epic because they can't play for spit, that's a problem.


Those are arbitrary rules. Consciously choosing to ignore conventional "rules" is significantly more arbitrary than knowing how music works mechanically, then listening, composing, or playing what you want (regardless of convention) as it suits you. I rather enjoy a fair amount of things without melody or even harmony in a traditional sense, and being able to understand the musical score for the pieces hasn't inhibited me in that way at all.

You're gonna have to run that by me again, I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that my choosing to refuse a musical education limits my tastes arbitrarily or that an artist rejecting popular notions for its own sake is arbitrary.


I think you've got the idea backwards; music theory and "rules", as you say, are descriptive, not proscriptive. A specific sequence of notes is a musical scale (and a composition using those notes in in a key as well, as the two are related) - this is true whether or not one knows what that means. You don't need to use a scale to write a song, though, and you don't need to write a song in any particular key; hell, there's an entire subset of music (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serialism) (one could say it's more of a type of composing, but that's roughly the same thing) dedicated to not using traditional scales and keys, or often even traditional concepts like measures and tempo. If you're familiar with John Cage or Arnold Schoenberg, both of them wrote a great deal of pieces that don't follow "traditional" values of music.

I know all of this, I'm not sure why you're telling me.


What I'm getting at here is that music doesn't necessarily follow rules... one can write music that does, but just because you can do something doesn't mean you have to. The idea that you're limited in what you can listen to or that you would consider yourself limited in that manner just by having a mechanical understanding of music is silly (and this is coming from someone that listens to and can appreciate a wide variety of genres).

To be fair to me that was just speculation on my part. I don't know if learning these things will actually hurt my appreciation. For all I know it could enhance it. Here's what I do know, though. I like music right now, in my current uneducated state. Can you kinda see why I wouldn't wanna rock the boat?


Agreed... up to a point. The problem with your argument is that you are assuming (or at least seem to be) that a lack of technical ability enhances the music. To a point, I agree - music sounds better when it's a bit rough. A lack of technical ability in general, though, produces not only rough music, but poorly played music, which doesn't sound good. Have you ever listened to someone with no sense of time and no coordination whatsoever try to play a drum kit? Honestly, it's pretty damn funny. :smallamused: If that's what you're going for - great! If not... you have a horrible drummer that's going to distract the listener from the rest of the music, as the instrument will draw attention to itself by virtue of sucking.

You have completely read me wrong and, honestly, that's because I completely read you wrong. This whole time I was assuming you were valuing technical ability as much as the compositions themselves, which is appreciating the... Wait... Hold on...


In a sense, rock was more of a building on blues, folk, and country than actually departing from anything. All kinds of "departure" in music is going to be experimentation, for whatever reason the artist had at the time; genres tend to develop naturally as people build on what's come before, rather than because someone tried to do something completely different.

As I told Coid it was just an example and I wasn't going by chronology or anything. It was just, sort of, an extended metaphor going on from my earlier points about not wanting to value rock and pop over lesser known genres.


Dooooo itttttttt. :smallcool:

Dooooone iiiiiiiit... Sorta, I was kinda hoping it'd be longer

[AtlanteanTroll]

The Wonder Years are not pop and calling Alt-J pop is iffy.

[DJ Yung Crunk]

The Wonder Years are not pop and calling Alt-J pop is iffy.

Traditional song structures, highly melodic, heavy emphasis on hooks. Where's the dispute, here?

[AtlanteanTroll]

Traditional song structures, highly melodic, heavy emphasis on hooks. Where's the dispute, here?

The fact that The Wonder Years are a punk band. They're too hard for pop. If you want to call them pop punk, I guess that works. But their pop punk sounds a lot more punk than pop. So. *shrug* And Alt-J is indie. Like ... IDK. They're getting popular, so I guess they're pop? They just sound like regular indie rock to me.

I pretty much define pop as Top 40 drek, so I guess there's some difference in opinion when it comes to the definition. If you want to define pop as being melodic Bad Religion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wP7gWpZVHQ) has a few bones to pick with you.

[DJ Yung Crunk]

The fact that The Wonder Years are a punk band. They're too hard for pop. If you want to call them pop punk, I guess that works. But their pop punk sounds a lot more punk than pop. So. *shrug* And Alt-J is indie. Like ... IDK. They're getting popular, so I guess they're pop? They just sound like regular indie rock to me.

I pretty much define pop as Top 40 drek, so I guess there's some difference in opinion when it comes to the definition.

There is no such thing as too "hard" for pop, there is no such thing as too "indie" for pop. Those things may define the different subsets of pop (in this case "pop punk" and "indie pop") but as for the umbrella term they're both so far in they can't even see the rain. Popular doesn't refer to the specific artists but the entire method and philosophy. It's a popular style of music.

EDIT: The Bad Religion I've listened to has been referred to as Melodic Hardcore which, yeah, sounds like a type of pop to me. Let's face it, these kids aren't skating to powerviolence and mathcore, here.

[Coidzor]

Pretty older, as you can see. (http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/05/female-hero-610x366.jpg)

She's gone through puberty! Gasp! Or at least stuffs her training bra!


@AllIHaveIsCrunk
Agreed here, although I think Coid was specifically calling out songs that do that. Also, rap is hardly alone in using sexually explicit or otherwise obscene lyrics.

Frank Zappa is an excellent composer and an equally talented musician (and, as it appears that I need to differentiate, in both a technical and a visceral sense); that a great deal of his lyrics aren't about anything meaningful doesn't take away from that.

Something like that, aye.

I do seem to recall him being referred to as the 5th and best Beatle. Catholic Girls, for instance, gets by mostly on sounding good and being hilarious more than any real meaning.


Heh. See, I like the message of this comic. Working hard is only as useful as the value other people put into it. :smallamused:

That's the third strike! You're out! Yeah, that popcorn was dinner. You did it to yourself.

Interesting...

It's all about gaming the system, after all.

I'm out? You're out! Out Loud! As if popcorn alone could *satisfy* my cravings.

Quite. You should check it out. :smallwink: You'll love the Thraddash. :smallcool:


That mouse is not cat food. It is a Toy. So according to one cat who views life as a series of Toys and Backscratchers. The other cat views all things as Food, so his opinion is not valid.

Local foods are strange. I couldn't find a local source for berry bushes unless, again, I went east and up into the foothills. But if I wanted lemons, hopping onto Freecycle in season, I could be invited to gather as many as I could pick. (How do you preserve that many lemons? I've seen candied lemons and lemons in wet preserve but have no idea what you would then use them for. Flavoring tea?)

Speaking of toys, my cats left me a new one in the front yard today. :smallsigh: It's bad enough they somehow brought home a bird's nest I didn't notice until I jammed the lawnmower with it...

Honestly, I have no idea. Seems like a worthwhile endeavour to find out though. Maybe it can be converted into lemon curd, which has a variety of uses? :smallconfused: Definitely can flavor and sweetn tea with fruit preserves. I believe that's how Russian tea is consumed.

[Drakeburn]

It is no fun being sick. Been going back and forth between my bed and the bathroom for five hours. And it all began at 1 in the morning. :smallfrown::smallannoyed:

[Mercenary Pen]

It is no fun being sick. Been going back and forth between my bed and the bathroom for five hours. And it all began at 1 in the morning. :smallfrown::smallannoyed:

I feel a pale indication of your pain based on the last time something similar happened to me- these things are never fun.

[Amidus Drexel]

You have completely read me wrong and, honestly, that's because I completely read you wrong. This whole time I was assuming you were valuing technical ability as much as the compositions themselves, which is appreciating the artist over the art which, as I would go on to say, is dumb as hell. I have no problem with technical ability at all, it just shouldn't take precedence over the compositions. Some things require technical ability to be played well, so it's totally appropriate in that context.

My point was, if there's a context for these flaws OR if the music doesn't demand an especially developed command of whatever instrument then it shouldn't matter if the player isn't that good at it. Take a hypothetical 3 chord pop punk band who intentionally records lo-fi for a rustic feel. That these guys don't play especially well and hit a few bum notes here and there doesn't bother me, because it plays into and may actually enhance their music. If someone completely cocked up a 20 minute prog epic because they can't play for spit, that's a problem.


Heh, looks like the two of us were arguing pretty much the same thing, then. :smallamused: Agreed on all accounts.



You're gonna have to run that by me again, I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that my choosing to refuse a musical education limits my tastes arbitrarily or that an artist rejecting popular notions for its own sake is arbitrary.


The first one, sort of. I'm having a bit of trouble articulating this, so jump down a bit and I'll attempt to explain what I meant in the next one.

Granted, I'd say both of the examples you gave are correct, just that they weren't what I was trying to say.



To be fair to me that was just speculation on my part. I don't know if learning these things will actually hurt my appreciation. For all I know it could enhance it. Here's what I do know, though. I like music right now, in my current uneducated state. Can you kinda see why I wouldn't wanna rock the boat?


I'm not sure how understanding the mechanics of music would keep you from liking it. I mean, you like a fairly wide variety of music already; why would knowing the nuts and bolts of it change that?

I mean, I speak from a position of understanding the mechanics of how music works, and I still enjoy listening to music. I didn't particularly like cookie-cutter radio hits before I understood their structure, and that hasn't changed with knowing how to assemble one using my knowledge of musical theory. I'd even go so far as to say that the amount of things I like and listen to have expanded since I've learned more about music.

I guess what I'm inarticulately trying to get across is that knowing how something works isn't prohibitive in any way to liking it. Semi-relevant xkcd (http://xkcd.com/877/).

I mean, I can sort of see where you're coming from, but my own experience speaks in opposition to that. To each their own, as it were - I won't hold it against you.



You have completely read me wrong and, honestly, that's because I completely read you wrong. This whole time I was assuming you were valuing technical ability as much as the compositions themselves, which is appreciating the... Wait... Hold on...

Dooooone iiiiiiiit... Sorta, I was kinda hoping it'd be longer


I have this habit of repeating myself sometimes. Sorry about that. :smallamused:

I'll be listening to those as soon as I get the chance. ...Any in particular that you'd recommend?


I do seem to recall him being referred to as the 5th and best Beatle. Catholic Girls, for instance, gets by mostly on sounding good and being hilarious more than any real meaning.

It's all about gaming the system, after all.

I'm out? You're out! Out Loud! As if popcorn alone could *satisfy* my cravings.

Quite. You should check it out. :smallwink: You'll love the Thraddash. :smallcool:

Heh, St. Alphonzo :smallamused: I remember him giving some sort of interview that he didn't bother putting any meaning into his lyrics... I should look for that.

If you treat life like a system to be optimized, you can get out of it exactly what you want while giving it as little as possible. Really, that works for anything. You can optimize Time v. Results v. Effort, for example, and get what you want most out of the equation. (normally this being a maximized Results for a minimum Time and Effort).

I'm always loud! We're at a baseball game! Of course I'm loud! If you are insinuating what I think you're insinuating, then I'll go get some butter and salt.

What exactly is what you linked, though? I'm not sure if I'm quite awake enough to understand it.

[Teddy]

If I was translating a video game, "so dramatic" would be accepted as an understand Woolsyism depending on the context :smallamused:

Yes, but if you wanted to say "so dramatic" in German, you'd have said "so dramatisch", and not "sehr dramatisch".


To be fair to me that was just speculation on my part. I don't know if learning these things will actually hurt my appreciation. For all I know it could enhance it. Here's what I do know, though. I like music right now, in my current uneducated state. Can you kinda see why I wouldn't wanna rock the boat?

Not to proclaim that it's universal, or even fully applicable to music as a field, but I've found that while studying what I do, which mostly consists of programming and mathematics nowadays, indeed does take away some of the admiral I used to feel toward some examples as my own proficiency rises and tasks which once were deemed beyond my ability turn trivial, but at the same time, a deeper understanding of the field also unlocks whole new tiers, which once was beyond my scope of even comprehending, but which I now finally may understand and appreciate.

I mean, a few years ago, you could show me the code for a program, and I'd just find it positively amazing how all that code could form such a program, because I wouldn't be able to tell what it does. Today, however, I'd be able to sit down and analyse the code, see the algorithms which drive the program and see all the hidden mechanisms, and while there is a chance that I find the algorithms to be trivial, or even poorly written, which in turn will sour my appreciation for said computer program, it's much more likely that I'll find a solution to a problem I didn't think of myself, or just an abstract map of the program flow beneath the cover for me to trail my path across as I run the program, both of which are causes of great joy to me.

Another, more concrete example for me was during the Mojam, when Mojang and some other game developers did a three day game-making jam to earn money for charity. I was following Jeb's livestream as he wrote up a little 2.5D shooter, and realised that while I a few years ago would have wanted to see more playtesting, now I instead wanted less of it, not because I've ceased to enjoy it, but because my deeper knowledge and understanding has led me to appreciate seeing a professional programmer in action even more.

All in all, I suppose you can make a fictional comparison to the differences between the peasant and the wizard. The peasant may be amazed by the carneval illusionist's tricks, while the wizard see them as the simple cantrips they are, but on the other hand, the peasant will probably never appreciate the sheer complexity of creating a common rock out of thin air nearly as much as a wizard would.

ION:
Muttermutterexammutter...

I'm honestly considering pulling an all-nighter just to make sure I get all this stupid probability and statistics mojo right.

[Taet]

Tummy bugs always have to wait until nighttime to strike, don't they? I hope that you are feeling well by now, Drakeburn.

There's a lot of jammed lawn mowers lately. I have a reel mower, so I must inspect the lawn before every mowing and pick up every stick that would get stuck. There is a sycamore tree shading the house, and it sheds. After hearing about the rotten apples and the bird's nest, I think I will be glad to keep on inspecting the lawn first.

The mystery of tea has been solved. I got a tip that there was a tea called "Chinese Restaurant Tea". It is only part oolong. There's some jasmine tea mixed in. And it is perfect with a few grains of sugar, no less, no more.

[Teddy]

There's a lot of jammed lawn mowers lately. I have a reel mower, so I must inspect the lawn before every mowing and pick up every stick that would get stuck. There is a sycamore tree shading the house, and it sheds. After hearing about the rotten apples and the bird's nest, I think I will be glad to keep on inspecting the lawn first.

Perhaps you should try raking the lawn before mowing...

[Taet]

I had wondered why my dear partner had bought a rake when leaf season was several months away.

[TaiLiu]

She's gone through puberty! Gasp! Or at least stuffs her training bra!
Haven't they all gone through puberty?

It is no fun being sick. Been going back and forth between my bed and the bathroom for five hours. And it all began at 1 in the morning. :smallfrown::smallannoyed:
Oh, dear. I hope you feel better soon!

[LaZodiac]

Haven't they all gone through puberty?

Oh, dear. I hope you feel better soon!

In a way, yes. But the heroes of X and Y are clearly into their late teenager years.

[TaiLiu]

In a way, yes. But the heroes of X and Y are clearly into their late teenager years.
Yes; that's true, though I don't think it's that big of a difference.

[Dimonite]

A friend that your father shooed away moments later...


Well, it was a few minutes. But it was for the mouse's own safety; there were several people there who wanted it dead. I was trying to do the deed myself, as I said, but was unable to because Leo felt too safe with me.


So, okay, here we go. This is my rough, rough, rough off the cuff list of 2010s pop music that, I hope, people find to be of a greater quality than Top 40. I repeat, much of this list isn't my personal preference, in fact a lot of these tracks I don't particularly care for myself, and I have no problem with Top 40 music, actually. So, I'd like to think I cast aside any bias and made a list that was, ideally, diverse enough to cater to, potentially, any possible preference for pop music. You'll see some soul, some synth pop, maybe something a little more rock infused, something a little traditional. Who knows, writing this paragraph I actually have no idea who'll make the cut.

Also, in order to stop this list from spiralling completely out of control I only went for "popular" pop artists (yeah yeah, I heard it too). This list could be impossibly large If I'm allowed to plumb the depths of soundcloud and bandcamp. But, for the purposes of "brevity", well known blog-friendly acts only.

But hey, let's give it a go! This is...
Crunk's List of Reasons You're Objectively Wrong For Disliking 2010s Pop Music
*sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip*
Man, I'm getting sleepy. Maybe I'll add some more when I can remember things better. Hope that'll work for now

I think we'll just call that the "List of Reasons You're Always Wrong When You Make Broad Generalizations." :smalltongue:

I haven't had time yet to listen to all million of those, but the ones I have listened to have been quite good - although still not a patch on Benny Goodman. :smalltongue:

[Worira]

I think we'll just call that the "List of Reasons You're Always Wrong When You Make Broad Generalizations." :smalltongue:


Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

[HalfTangible]

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

And Gaston.

[Amidus Drexel]

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

Yeah, well Obi Wan was really a Sith in disguise, as evidenced by that quote. :smalltongue:

[Dimonite]

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

That sounds like a broad generalization to me. :smalltongue:

Recursive ironyyyyyyy!!!


And Gaston.

No one cuts Jedi in half like Gaston!

[HalfTangible]

That sounds like a broad generalization to me. :smalltongue:

Recursive ironyyyyyyy!!!



No one cuts Jedi in half like Gaston!

"Grievous, I'm afraid I've been thinking..."
"A dangerous pastime."
"I know. But Padme is Anakin's lover, and their chemistrys' not even so-so. But the wheels in my head have been turning since I looked at that child-like man, For I promised myself I'd rule the galaxy, AND NOW I'M EVOLVING A PLAAAAAAAAAN!!!"

[Mynxae]

Thought I'd poke my head in and say hi. Also, that Steampunk week won in the avatar week thread so I hope everyone has avatars for (probably in a month or two, knowing how long it takes to organise) it! :smallbiggrin:

[TaiLiu]

Thought I'd poke my head in and say hi.
Hi, Mynxae!

[Mynxae]

Hi, Mynxae!

Greeting, person I've seen once or twice on here. :3 How goes it? Is everyone having a good day today?

ION: New computer parts that I need to actually have a working computer (on my roommate's as I have been for the past month, first two weeks it wasn't working because of the harddrive, the day the new harddrive arrived my wallet and computer case along with the contents got stolen) have finally arrived at my roommate's work (he's the manager of a warehouse for a computer parts company and stuff), yet bloody Welfare (for Aussie's it's called Centrelink) dropped my Rent Assistance a fortnight early, so now I can't afford my computer for two weeks unless my Dad loans me money.

Stupid Welfare. :smallannoyed:

[TaiLiu]

Greeting, person I've seen once or twice on here. :3 How goes it? Is everyone having a good day today?
It's okay, I guess. I feel fine; a bit tired, perhaps.

Stupid Welfare. :smallannoyed:
Stupid Centrelink! *Whack, whack, whack!*

[enderlord99]

Is everyone having a good day today?

Define "everyone," please. Do outsiders count, or just humanoids?

I'd also like you to define "good." I know at least one minor yugoloth is having a relatively average one by human standards, but that's certainly much better than what minor yugoloths usually have, so is that "good" or "average?"

I'm going to guess the first for both, in which case: the someone who is posting this is having a good day. I still don't know about everyone else, though.:smallsmile:

[Coidzor]

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

:smallamused:


And Gaston.

No, just no one drinks like Gaston. :smalltongue: *hums the song to himself* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK3x2DOoJIc)


"Grievous, I'm afraid I've been thinking..."
"A dangerous pastime."
"I know. But Padme is Anakin's lover, and their chemistrys' not even so-so. But the wheels in my head have been turning since I looked at that child-like man, For I promised myself I'd rule the galaxy, AND NOW I'M EVOLVING A PLAAAAAAAAAN!!!"

And now I know who to shoop you with. :smallamused:

Shipping is still in the works. Half-Knee seems promising though if we keep on this showtunes kick...


Thought I'd poke my head in and say hi. Also, that Steampunk week won in the avatar week thread so I hope everyone has avatars for (probably in a month or two, knowing how long it takes to organise) it! :smallbiggrin:

Hmm... Now what direction would a steampunk mask go... :smallconfused:


Stupid Welfare. :smallannoyed:

Yowch. Good luck with all that. Possibly consider some razor wire while you're at it...


Haven't they all gone through puberty?

Most 10 year olds have not gone through puberty. :smalltongue: Some of the girls might just be starting though.

[TaiLiu]

Hmm... Now what direction would a steampunk mask go... :smallconfused:
It would be a mask with steam spraying out of it, I think.

Most 10 year olds have not gone through puberty. :smalltongue: Some of the girls might just be starting though.
They are ten? I thought they were thirteen, or something close to that...

[HalfTangible]

And now I know who to shoop you with. :smallamused:

.......

Shoop?



Shipping is still in the works. Half-Knee seems promising though if we keep on this showtunes kick...

It's moments like these when I wish I could draw so I could draw a raccoon after eating a budgie.

[MoonCat]

Oh hey. It's the penultimate week of school. 10% of my history grade is due in 15 days and I haven't started. What the hell is wrong with me?

[Coidzor]

.......

Shoop?



It's moments like these when I wish I could draw so I could draw a raccoon after eating a budgie.

Shoop, y'know, to photoshop. :smallwink:

That's both adorable and heartbreaking. T_T


It would be a mask with steam spraying out of it, I think.

They are ten? I thought they were thirteen, or something close to that...

Sounds painful.

Counting the early editions, yes. They was 10s.


Oh hey. It's the penultimate week of school. 10% of my history grade is due in 15 days and I haven't started. What the hell is wrong with me?

Cause you're just a girl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHzOOQfhPFg)? Or maybe you're just a teenage dirtbag (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC3y9llDXuM&NR=1&feature=endscreen), baby?

So what is it? A paper? Some form of prog rockproject?

[TaiLiu]

Oh hey. It's the penultimate week of school. 10% of my history grade is due in 15 days and I haven't started. What the hell is wrong with me?
I'm procrastinating, too. We can both be wrong together!

Sounds painful.
Is it any more painful than having your head on fire?

Counting the early editions, yes. They was 10s.
Hm. I see.

[LaZodiac]

Oh hey. It's the penultimate week of school. 10% of my history grade is due in 15 days and I haven't started. What the hell is wrong with me?

Good luck Moony! I'm cheering for you! Got all dressed up in a cheerleader outfit and everything!

[TaiLiu]

Good luck Moony! I'm cheering for you! Got all dressed up in a cheerleader outfit and everything!
Now that's dedication!

[Elemental]

Most musicians are, aren't they? :smallamused: :smalltongue:

Perhaps... I just have this habit of laughing when people die in media... There's only been one or two times when a character's death managed to conjure a negative emotion from me.

Lemme guess, you have amnesia. :smallamused:

Probably. I try not to be, but nevertheless, I sometimes can't help myself.

Well, people in media don't really count. Unless they're Dobby. I couldn't help myself but cry when that happened. In fact, I feel sad just thinking of it.

No, not really. I'm beginning to doubt I even had news in the first place.



Good point, but I prefer to leave a slot open for the occation someone actually manages to impress me...

Well, when you find an imitation xylophone that sounds like the real thing, let me know.



Well, how are we otherwise going to achieve it. I mean, our military might could only hope to become lagom at best...

That said, there was a decade or so in the early cold war when Sweden had the fourth largest airforce in the world...

You could just try and buy out everything.

That makes sense. Caught between the West and the Soviet Union, you'd need it.


Coidzor, the Great and Powerful:

Elemental Antfarm:

Having a rough game plan helps a lot, yeah, even if you don't follow it.

Apricots are available here, seasonally. However, anyone who knows apricots insists that they don't travel well or we only get the bad ones or something. Generally, unless someone has a better source than a store, they're not worth it except as a dried fruit. Nectarines, on the other hand, are good, but, again, only available for a limited time seasonally. They're definitely not exotic to me. Other places, Iuno.

I've no idea where you got the part about the ant farm from. However, I can't help myself but try and remember the unnecessarily technical word for one.
Formicarium? Formicary? One of them.

But it's so hard to plan out how to spend one's day. I need to hire an assistant.

Well... Personally, I do prefer my apricots dried.



It is a peculiarly disgusting scent. I have to take a break from it periodically myself.

One can only hope it goes well, but, precedent is a tricky thing.

It's odd because I have no problem with the smell of blood or raw meat. However, it could be the combination of various bodily fluids and organs mixed together. I have never like liver after all.

Eh... I don't particularly care. Music will go its own way, no matter my opinion regarding it.



Not even bone? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkP5OtN0aCw) :smallamused:

I don't think you're quite grokking world domination then. :smalltongue:

Not even bone.

Damn... They're trying for a cultural victory, aren't they?



What principles are those? Or principals, even? :smallconfused:

Breathe deep from the diaphragm, don't raise your shoulders to breathe.
Articulate each note with the tongue unless written otherwise.
Don't breathe at the end of or during a crescendo because the break will be more noticeable than usual. In fact, don't breathe anywhere save a break in phrasing. If you need to breathe anywhere else, don't breathe at the same time as the person next to you.
Watch and listen at all times. If you can't see the conductor when reading your music, adjust your stand. If you get lost, look and listen for signposts.
COUNT. Missing an entry can ruin an entire piece.
Feel the beat and don't lag behind it or speed up, follow the conductor when it comes to tempo changes.
When playing softly, use more air to better support the sound. Soft does not mean weak.
Etc.



Well, it is a good skill. Usually it helps somewhat with being able to analyze other music to some extent at least, IIRC.

Detachment though... I'm not sure how people do that exactly with music.

It does indeed. When you listen for things, you catch onto the little bits that indicate things that are about to happen.

It's hard. Distracting yourself with responding to people on the Internet usually works.



Just Magic? Nothing else?

If he had a computer to play on, we could have played Starcraft. Otherwise, not much at all we felt like doing.
Of course, the problem with playing Magic over and over again is that I only have four decks and Mynxae only has the one, so we run out of possible things to do rather quickly. Though my land destruction deck is always fun, particularly in multiplayer.
What? I'm about to lose? Rite of Ruin! Blasphemous Act! Then I watch as the other players have to deal with the devastation. It is just too much fun despite it rarely winning.
Note to self: Get more Charmbreakers...

[Mynxae]

If he had a computer to play on, we could have played Starcraft. Otherwise, not much at all we felt like doing.
Of course, the problem with playing Magic over and over again is that I only have four decks and Mynxae only has the one, so we run out of possible things to do rather quickly. Though my land destruction deck is always fun, particularly in multiplayer.
What? I'm about to lose? Rite of Ruin! Blasphemous Act! Then I watch as the other players have to deal with the devastation. It is just too much fun despite it rarely winning.
Note to self: Get more Charmbreakers...

Although I'm going to be building a pure black (maybe a little bit of red or green tossed in, depends on if I change my mind slightly or want to add something cool) vampire/death/suffering deck but eh. That'll take a bit of time to build up what with money issues the past few months. My only deck (which is Azorius) is only in my possession because a good friend paid for it to start me off. :smallsigh: