Has anyone else noticed that it's Mundane vs Spellcasters

[Oko and Qailee]

Just an interesting thought. The 4 LG members are all Spellcasters and only one of the OotS is , but as well all know, Elan doesn't count.

Guess Roy is really gonna have to prove how awesome fighters are.

[King of Nowhere]

not-spellcasters being useful has been a teme of the comic for a long time.

[Bird]

Yes, absolutely -- although what we're also seeing now is the group leaning more on Elan's spells & songs since the primary casters are gone. Roy apologized for snapping, and Elan does, in fact, count.

[Oko and Qailee]

Useful yes, but not quite on par with spellcasters still. V microwaves a black dragon alone, which the party couldn't beat. Xykon defeats the entire Mundane Sapphire Gaurd. Etc.

They're still outclassed, just useful (something I never questioned.)

[Oko and Qailee]

Roy apologized for snapping, and Elan does, in fact, count.

I was just trying to be funny :*(

[Fish]

There could be a deeper meaning to Roy's statement that Elan doesn't count. It's possible that Girard exempted his own magic -- illusions -- from whatever defenses are active. We don't know yet.

[Kish]

Actually, I think that's part of the mirroring here. The leader of the Order of the Stick discounts Elan as a spellcaster; the leader of the Linear Guild inflates his own spellcasting abilities to being the implicit equal of Malack, Durkon, and Zz'dtri.

[Obscure Blade]

I recall someone pointing this out, mentioning that despite Nale boasting that they'd "finally shaken that ridiculous evil opposites theme (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0883.html)" they are still, in fact, evil opposites. Just opposite in a different way.

[Lvl45DM!]

That is not what the word opposite means

[Belkar<3]

above posts= debate on definition of opposite.

Seriously though, its kind of been that way since original LG was introduced.

[Kish]

That is not what the word opposite means
TALKY-MAN BROKE THOG's TUSK!

[Dire Moose]

Well, it would seem Roy will get to try out his anti-spellcaster feat after all.

[Bird]

I was just trying to be funny :*(
I know. I wasn't putting your joke down; paraphrasing the line again was just a rhetorical flourish. :smallsmile:


Well, it would seem Roy will get to try out his anti-spellcaster feat after all.
Great point! For some reason that completely escaped me until you brought it up.

[Copperdragon]

Re: Has anyone else noticed that it's Mundane vs Spellcasters

It's not. The majority of the enemies are spellcasters, but it's no theme, it's not what this is about.
If anything, it's about that "all classes can be useful", that "what players might think about this or that class being superior is often wrong" or "in regard to the story that is told, the power of classes do not really matter - what matters is what interesting (or annoying) abilities they bring and how it affects the character".

[ti'esar]

It's not. The majority of the enemies are spellcasters, but it's no theme, it's not what this is about.
If anything, it's about that "all classes can be useful", that "what players might think about this or that class being superior is often wrong" or "in regard to the story that is told, the power of classes do not really matter - what matters is what interesting (or annoying) abilities they bring and how it affects the character".

Of course, "Team All-Caster" losing to "Team No-Real-Casters" could be used to further that point.

[NobodyWasTaken]

This worries me that Elan's going to be incapacitated somehow.

[Cavenskull]

This worries me that Elan's going to be incapacitated somehow.
Um, he always has been...

Oh, you mean physically? Never mind then. :smallwink:

[Copperdragon]

Of course, "Team All-Caster" losing to "Team No-Real-Casters" could be used to further that point.

Yes, but I think this point would be "all classes are worthwhile and it's more about what you do with the character anyway, in this instance we see it on a caster-party vs. a non-caster-party", not "mundane vs. caster" in general.

[137beth]

That is not what the word opposite means
No, he was referring to the ultimate battle between the evil opposites of Tarquin's greataxe vs Roy's greatsword.

[martianmister]

Even if you count Nale a spellcaster, and not Elan, V is still there.

[CRtwenty]

Even if you count Nale a spellcaster, and not Elan, V is still there.

V is not presently with the party, and therefore doesn't count for this any more than Tarquin does.

What cracks me up though is that technically Belkar is a spellcaster. Even though his Wisdom score is too low to actually prepare or cast any spells.