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Tuki Tuki
2013-06-19, 08:42 PM
Is there anything (non home brew) that makes armor spikes slashing instead of piercing?

Mountain
2013-06-19, 08:50 PM
Yes indeed there is: Armor Razors, from Underdark, pg. 65.

Is there any particular combo you're looking for?

Tuki Tuki
2013-06-19, 09:21 PM
Yes indeed there is: Armor Razors, from Underdark, pg. 65.

Is there any particular combo you're looking for?

I'm just making a guy based around the blood-spiked charger tactical feat in PHII, and I go into dervish later for the fast movement and I wanted to see if there was a way I could go into it without wasting a feat on a weapon that I wouldn't use. :smalltongue:

Tuki Tuki
2013-06-19, 09:26 PM
That does raise the question of if that feat can be used with these armor razors without homebrew?

Biffoniacus_Furiou
2013-06-19, 09:29 PM
That does raise the question of if that feat can be used with these armor razors without homebrew?

Reasonably, yes. RAW, no, and probably RAI no because it involves landing on and impaling your foes on those armor spikes. Razors don't impale.

Tuki Tuki
2013-06-19, 09:32 PM
I guess ill just waste the feat :smalltongue:

Mountain
2013-06-19, 09:34 PM
I'm personally very fond of the blood-spiked charger feat. Remember though that dervish dance does not allow a charge. According to the PHB, a charge attack is a full-round action.

Tuki Tuki
2013-06-19, 09:38 PM
I'm personally very fond of the blood-spiked charger feat. Remember though that dervish dance does not allow a charge. According to the PHB, a charge attack is a full-round action.

I just go into it way later in my build for the fast movement. I don't even care about the dance.

Biffoniacus_Furiou
2013-06-19, 09:45 PM
Dervish is terrible if you're only after fast movement! Consider the following:

Barbarian (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/barbarian.htm) 1: +10 ft.
This Ranger variant (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm#ranger) 1: +10 ft., doesn't stack with Barbarian.
Quick trait (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/buildingCharacters/characterTraits.htm#quick): +10 ft., -1 hp/level (can be negated by spending a feat on Improved Toughness).
Dash feat (CW): +5 ft.
Speed of Thought (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicFeats.htm#speedOfThought) psionic feat: +10 ft.

I'm not even going to get into spells, magic items, etc.

Tuki Tuki
2013-06-19, 09:52 PM
Dervish is terrible if you're only after fast movement! Consider the following:

Barbarian (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/barbarian.htm) 1: +10 ft.
This Ranger variant (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm#ranger) 1: +10 ft., doesn't stack with Barbarian.
Quick trait (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/buildingCharacters/characterTraits.htm#quick): +10 ft., -1 hp/level (can be negated by spending a feat on Improved Toughness).
Dash feat (CW): +5 ft.
Speed of Thought (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicFeats.htm#speedOfThought) psionic feat: +10 ft.

I'm not even going to get into spells, magic items, etc.

dervish is almost a last resort because i already expend a ton of other classes that give fast movement

mattie_p
2013-06-19, 09:55 PM
That does raise the question of if that feat can be used with these armor razors without homebrew?

Actually, it raises the question of, "Can you add both armor spikes and armor razors to the same amor/shield?"

I see nothing in RAW that prevents it.

gurgleflep
2013-06-19, 11:40 PM
Razors on armor? All I can think of is Thibbledorf Pwent, a horribly smelly dwarf from the Legend of Drizzt series who basically charges into battle, lunges at his enemies and grabs hold of them, he then proceeds to shake like a madman ripping them into a million pieces!
I believe he called him self something to the effect of a "dwarf battlerager."

Rhynn
2013-06-20, 01:03 AM
Given that they're in Underdark, yeah.

Averis Vol
2013-06-20, 01:22 AM
Razors on armor? All I can think of is Thibbledorf Pwent, a horribly smelly dwarf from the Legend of Drizzt series who basically charges into battle, lunges at his enemies and grabs hold of them, he then proceeds to shake like a madman ripping them into a million pieces!
I believe he called him self something to the effect of a "dwarf battlerager."

Yup. just like everyone else in the drizzt series he made a poor class choice and took the battlerager prc from races of faerun. It's like a barbarian wannabe that gets some resistance to intoxicants.

Rhynn
2013-06-20, 01:32 AM
Yup. just like everyone else in the drizzt series he made a poor class choice and took the battlerager prc from races of faerun. It's like a barbarian wannabe that gets some resistance to intoxicants.

Well, no. He was a Fighter. They made a Battlerager kit in AD&D 2E for him.

Averis Vol
2013-06-20, 01:33 AM
Well, no. He was a Fighter. They made a Battlerager kit in AD&D 2E for him.

well, they have most of the iconic characters stats, I was pretty sure I saw him with the battlerager PrC. though I could, of course, be wrong. It has happened before.

Rhynn
2013-06-20, 01:40 AM
That may be what he was statted as later, but I doubt he had any kind of prestige class in 1992. Basically what I'm getting at here is that you had the cart before the horse. The character existed before the mechanics you're talking about.

Averis Vol
2013-06-20, 01:46 AM
That may be what he was statted as later, but I doubt he had any kind of prestige class in 1992. Basically what I'm getting at here is that you had the horse before the cart. The character existed before the mechanics you're talking about.

Fair enough. I was just going off whatever knowledge I had at hand, and it happened to be 3.5.

Feytalist
2013-06-20, 03:32 AM
Very possibly they made the PrC based off the character (and 2E kit). They did something similar with Spellsinger, from the same book, even.

I've always thought there could be a neat trick with Spellsinger's schtick. I've never been able to find it, though. There are feats that do it better.

Seffbasilisk
2013-06-20, 03:49 AM
There's also netcutter armor spikes, which are basically razors.