Ruling on Metamagic Specalist, Slow and Chain Spell

[TheDarkSaint]

I'm about 85% sure I'm right in my ruling for this, but having back up would be nice.


I have a PC who made a sorcerer and took the Metamagic Specalist variant from the Players Handbook II. He currently can use that skill 3 times a day.

He took the Empower, Slow and Chain Spell feats. (took a flaw)

He claims that he can use Chain Spell on Acid Spray, then use the Slow Spell feat on it three times, then get rid of all the casting time slow downs through his metamagic specialist powers.


I say "no". First, way too over powered.

Second, Slow Spell actually goes in and modifies the original casting time of the spell. The casting time then gets further altered because he is a sorcerer applying metamagic to a spell. Being a Specialist will remove the slow down from being a sorcerer, but won't re-modify the slow down from Slow Spell, since that has nothing to do with him being a sorcerer and everything to do with him using a feat as described.

Does this make sense? You guys think I'm right? Opinions?

[supermonkeyjoe]

Is he using the Slow Spell feat from here? http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Slow_Spell_%283.5e_Feat%29
(dandwiki)

If so then you're getting into the messy world of homebrew content, being from Dandwiki is doubly dangerous as most content on that site is regarded as being crud.

However since the metamagic feat doesn't say that you can apply it more than once, your player's plan is invalid

[Arael666]

He cant use the Slow Spell feat on it three times, as he claims.

Fist, because the slow spell feat doesn't increase the casting time, it ALTERS the casting time from standard (or less) TO one full round action. (it's doesn't work like reserves of strength feat, for example).

Second, because by RAW, you can’t apply the same metamagic feat more than once to a single spell.

Also, metamagic specialist can't reduce the casting time from slow spell because the spell now has a casting time of 1 full round, it wasn't increase because he used a metamagic feat, it was ALTERED BY the metamagic feat.

He can use Chain spell with the slow spell feat, but the spell slot will be 2 levels higher.