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Uncle Pine
2013-06-21, 12:22 PM
So I read a bunch of topics and it seems that you can use reincarnate to gain racial substitution levels from different races by RAW.

Example: You are an elven wizard. At 1st level you take the elf racial substitution level and get generalist wizardry. At 3rd level, you take another elf racial substitution level and get natural link. Later, you reincarnate into a changeling (say you rolled 100 on the reincarnate table and your DM was fine with it) and at 5th level you can take the changeling racial substitution level and get limited spell knowledge and morphic familiar.

This works if you reincarnate into something else before you level up and choose the racial substitution level.

But what happen if you, for example, are already a 20th level human wizard and want to get the 1st and 3rd elf wizard racial substitution level? Can you reincarnate into an elf, retrain yourself, get those racial substitution and reincarnate again into a wizard?

BowStreetRunner
2013-06-21, 12:38 PM
You can find all of this in Player's Handbook II. Page 194 covers Substitution Level Retraining and Page 198 covers Race rebuilding.

Uncle Pine
2013-06-21, 12:48 PM
You can find all of this in Player's Handbook II. Page 194 covers Substitution Level Retraining and Page 198 covers Race rebuilding.

The fact is that I don't see anything on page 194 that wouldn't allow by RAW to retrain the "normal" wizard level for a racial substitution level for which you become eligible thanks to reincarnate and that race rebuilding can also be used to recreate characters brought back by reincarnate, but has a different set of rules (for example, the restriction about racial substitution levels).