Stealth that avoids magical detection

[Fyermind]

So I want to sneak through places where magical surveillance sweeps are regular. I don't need to be able to avoid things that target me. But I'd like to be able to cast spells and benefit from magic items without worrying about detect magic, arcane sight, or True seeing.

I heard something about materials and spells that resist divination attempts.

[Darth Stabber]

Hide and move silently checks work wonders for that. Adding any other hiding helper will make it even better, but the core of hide checks is what it takes to make it work.

[Psyren]

Most detection spells are divinations, so something like Nondetection or Mind Blank can protect not only you, but any spells you're using to hide.

[Emperor Tippy]

Psychic reformation to pick up Darkstalker, approach on the ethereal plane if possible (lets you bypass Mindsight and Lifesense, use Mindblank to defeat all Divination spells. Use Persistent Superior Invisibility to negate most other things. Be shapechanged into a Shadesteel Golem so that you are unliving and need not breath. Throw up a Selective (set to you) Antimagic Field to stop most other detection methods. Fly the whole way.

That gets you past most things.

[Fyermind]

The problem isn't me avoiding detection, the problem is the spells allowing me to avoid detection avoiding detection. Sure my mind blank makes me immune to divination, but what stops the continuing effect of the enchantment from showing up.

[Darth Stabber]

The problem isn't me avoiding detection, the problem is the spells allowing me to avoid detection avoiding detection. Sure my mind blank makes me immune to divination, but what stops the continuing effect of the enchantment from showing up.

Mundane hiding+ darkstalker will do the job just fine if you have mindblank up. That will defeat anything but a good spot check. Buff the crap out of your hide and move silently and you will be fine.

[Emperor Tippy]

The problem isn't me avoiding detection, the problem is the spells allowing me to avoid detection avoiding detection. Sure my mind blank makes me immune to divination, but what stops the continuing effect of the enchantment from showing up.

Mind Blank protects you and everything on you (all spells and magic items) from all divination magic. None of it shows up.

[NevinPL]

Sure my mind blank makes me immune to divination, but what stops the continuing effect of the enchantment from showing up.
The: "Psionics Is Different" option ?

[Der_DWSage]

As Tippy said-all divinations, including 'Detect X' are rendered moot by Mindblank.

Even if the DM rules that Mindblank doesn't work that way, Misdirection certainly does. Get yourself a small, smooth, perfectly nonmagical rock, and put it outside the place you're robbing. Misdirection from you to rock. All 'Detect X' spells and the like now detect a nonmagical rock. This does explicitly include 'Detect Magic,' so yes, it works.

[Psyren]

The problem isn't me avoiding detection, the problem is the spells allowing me to avoid detection avoiding detection. Sure my mind blank makes me immune to divination, but what stops the continuing effect of the enchantment from showing up.

Did you skim my post? It was pretty short.


Most detection spells are divinations, so something like Nondetection or Mind Blank can protect not only you, but any spells you're using to hide.

[Phaederkiel]

and do not forget the simple mundane disguise. Scrying needs you to know what your victim looks like, so if you concentrate on someone looking entirely different (because he was disguised when he met you) gives you a pretty hefty malus.

[Darrin]

Helping hand can get around mind blank, since it's an evocation, not divination. However, unless the target is within 100', it takes too long to be immediately useful, and is somewhat klunky even within 100'. The target can ignore or move away from the hand. However, messenger arrow (Ghostwalk Web Enhancement (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x= dnd/we/20030607a)) + spell storing/glyph seal + faerie fire = big glowing neon "I'm over here!" sign.

[Rabidmuskrat]

Get a lead lined cloak. Will probably weigh more than your character to get it thick enough, but there you go.

[Prime32]

Use the Vecna-blooded template from MM5.

[unseenmage]

If I remember correctly there's a combination of Epic PrC and feats that turn you into an urban legend. Not only can you not be divinated, most folks don't even really believe you exist anymore.

[Cirrylius]

Sounds like Void Incarnate.

[unseenmage]

Sounds like Void Incarnate.

I believe that's exactly what it was. I didn't use it, one of my fellow players did. While I was turning my wizard into a giant arcane bullseye he was disappearing from history altogether. Was a fun game.

[Drelua]

I believe that's exactly what it was. I didn't use it, one of my fellow players did. While I was turning my wizard into a giant arcane bullseye he was disappearing from history altogether. Was a fun game.

That class can be found here (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ei/20030418a), if anyone's interested. I had a lot of fun with that in a level 30 campaign once.