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geekintheground
2013-07-07, 10:43 PM
i was looking at the weapon properties when i noticed the DMG says its price is a +2 bonus, does that include the +1 price from the prereq "flaming" property or do you have to have a +3 weapon to have this property?

BowStreetRunner
2013-07-07, 10:49 PM
The cost of a flaming burst weapon in the DMG already includes the flaming property. In the Magic Item Compendium (p225) they convert this to a synergy property (first you add flaming, then stack flaming burst on top) but the net total +2 bonus and the overall effect are the same.

Flickerdart
2013-07-07, 10:50 PM
"A flaming burst weapon functions as a flaming weapon that also...".

The minimum for a flaming burst weapon is a +3 weapon - a +1 flaming burst sword. The flaming property is "built in".

geekintheground
2013-07-07, 10:50 PM
sweet, thanks guys!

karkus
2013-07-07, 10:53 PM
But can you "double up," getting the +2 from Flaming Burst, then the +1 for Flaming, giving you both effects?

TuggyNE
2013-07-07, 11:48 PM
But can you "double up," getting the +2 from Flaming Burst, then the +1 for Flaming, giving you both effects?

No. You can't have a weapon that flames and also flames, so, since flaming burst counts as flaming+, adding flaming again does nothing.

Starbuck_II
2013-07-07, 11:58 PM
No. You can't have a weapon that flames and also flames, so, since flaming burst counts as flaming+, adding flaming again does nothing.
That isn't a rule.
There is even a Module where a Frost Giant has 3 x Flaming Property and thus deals +3d6 fire damage on every strike.

Spuddles
2013-07-08, 12:07 AM
That isn't a rule.

I know, right? I like casting bull str on myself 6 times for +24 str.

Big Fau
2013-07-08, 12:13 AM
That isn't a rule.
There is even a Module where a Frost Giant has 3 x Flaming Property and thus deals +3d6 fire damage on every strike.

Source please.

Kelb_Panthera
2013-07-08, 12:51 AM
Which seems more likely

A) same source rule doesn't apply to magic items and we've all been doing it wrong for years

B) a modual designer employed by a company that gets a significant number of their PrC sample characters wrong (failure to qualify for the PrC itself usually) made a mistake

The correct answer is B.