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isildur
2013-07-11, 05:12 AM
Just for fun. Not for actual pc.

battle socerer 4/eldritch 10/abjurant champion 5/dragon slayer 1

(use militia, Versatile Spellcaster, and heighten spell)

BAB 19/20 Cl 19/20

Is there higher bab+cl build? (also can cast 9th level spell)

ps> This build sucks, i know.

Yael
2013-07-11, 05:18 AM
You're Wellcome~~ (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286800) Not by me, but should help.

isildur
2013-07-11, 05:35 AM
I think it's a 19/19 build. is it correct?

thethird
2013-07-11, 06:05 AM
wouldn't a straight duskblade be bab 20 cl 20?

isildur
2013-07-11, 06:16 AM
wouldn't a straight duskblade be bab 20 cl 20?

Yes, but he can't cast 6th level spell. I miss that.

prufock
2013-07-11, 07:30 AM
Full caster 20, Persist Divine Power. BAB 20, CL 20.

eggynack
2013-07-11, 07:35 AM
Full caster 20, Persist Divine Power. BAB 20, CL 20.
Yeah, that sure does it. Clerics are pretty great at having a full caster level and BAB simultaneously. Alternatively, you can use metamagic effect and arcane disciple in combination, though I suppose that your post didn't explicitly say you were using DMM persist. I just thought that it was worth bringing up that this is likely available to every tier one class.

prufock
2013-07-11, 07:43 AM
I suppose that your post didn't explicitly say you were using DMM persist.
Yeah, you don't really need it, but it sure is nice. Dread Necros get rebuke, and pretty much anyone - arcane or divine - can get into Sacred Exorcist to grab turn undead. Only downside is it can get a bit feat-expensive.

Piggy Knowles
2013-07-11, 07:59 AM
You're Wellcome~~ (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286800) Not by me, but should help.


I think it's a 19/19 build. is it correct?

Thanks for the link! I was pretty proud of that one.

The end result of that build is...


+19 BAB
CL 15 on Duskblade spells before items
CL 20 on Nar Demonbinder spells before items
Able to cast 8th-level spells off the Nar Demonbinder list, and able to use Versatile Caster to cast 9th-level spells from bloodline/necrotic cyst (Wail of the Banshee/Necrotic Termination if you use the fey/demon heritage combo I suggested, but it depends on what bloodlines you use)
Full attack channeling via the level 13 duskblade ability


That's the tame version, using only things that are likely to be approved for a typical player. The BBEG version, which uses flaws, UA bloodlines and elder evil devotion, instead gets CL 18 on Duskblade spells before items, CL 26 on Nar Demonbinder spells before items, and several other nasty little extra gems (such as Ex immunity to mind-affecting, significant damage boosts, etc). CL 26 is nasty when you can cast inimical blasphemy that affects any alignment, especially since you can easily boost that quite a bit higher with items.