Warforged Build, need insight and help.

[Perpetr8r]

Ok I am gonna use a Warforged character.

I have only recently discovered the Psionics of D&D and realized they ROCK.

I have only recently discovered all the cool feats of a Warforged like Psiforged Body, The Might Arms Graft and so forth.

I want to make a psionic character but I want him to be cool and unique. So how should I do this? What ideas would you use for this.

Also if you have an idea on which class I should use. I know people suggest Psywarrior is popular but I only know the Psion class.

[Waker]

Did you have any goals for your character or roles you wanted to fill? There are many options that a Psion could fill.

[Perpetr8r]

Well as a Psiforge he is still learning about himself and still journeying to uncover what makes him alive, as a psionic being himself he has taken that journey through the realm of the mind as well as the physical plane. Since Warforged are essentially consciousness inside a living construct body.

As for a role in the party, he is gonna be mixed between ranged crowd control (Entangling Ectoplasm and such) as well as a damage dealer, either ranged or limited melee (Only if I can stack Adamantium and Psiforged)

[Perpetr8r]

What happens if a Psion takes Heavy Armor, ASF doesn't effect them but does it do anything negative?

[TuggyNE]

What happens if a Psion takes Heavy Armor, ASF doesn't effect them but does it do anything negative?

Any (ranged) touch attacks they make get a stiffish penalty. But since you can quite easily avoid all such powers, that's not such a big deal.

[Fouredged Sword]

If you use the Adamantium body feat, you are proficient in your own armor, so you don't take the normal non-prof penalty to attack rolls.

Psions make excellent tanks with a psicrystal.

Put your psicrystal in a container so that you are touching it, but nobody else has line of sight.

Manifest Share Pain on the psicrystal.

Manifest Vigor, using share power to also effect the psicrystal.

Now both you and your psicrystal have CL*5 temp HP, and half of all damage you receive is dealt to your psicrystal and reduced by it's hardness so it takes little damage.

[Perpetr8r]

Wow good combo.

As for the Mighty Arms, it does say add the arms of a Warforged, does that mean I get a total of four arms? Or does that mean it straight up replaces my warforged arms with another warforged arms?

Any feats, or powers I should know about aside from Shared Pain and Vigor?

[Swaoeaeieu]

Wow good combo.

As for the Mighty Arms, it does say add the arms of a Warforged, does that mean I get a total of four arms? Or does that mean it straight up replaces my warforged arms with another warforged arms?

Any feats, or powers I should know about aside from Shared Pain and Vigor?

mighty arms graft gives the impression it replaces your arms. but nowhere in the text does it actually say it does. so according to the text, you just get 2 extra warforged arms, fully functional

[Perpetr8r]

So could I in theory then place a buckler or shield in the two new arms, gain the bonus while my two original arms are free to wield weapons, draw potions, etc? Sorry was having a debate with another player and I wanna know if I or he is right?

Also my GM has told me he is giving me the lvl 1 body feat as a freebie, something about having to mandatory burn 1 starting feat on something he doesn't agree with so I get 1 of the armor feats, my original 1 feat (Psiforged Body) and I get a bonus feat from Psion. Do I use that to get the crystal?

[Swaoeaeieu]

if you have four arms. You could use 2 to wield a weapon. one to hold a shield. and have one left for scratching itches.

using 2 shield is useless, defenses dont stack.

[Perpetr8r]

Ah very true didn't think of that.

As for the feats I am assuming I would need to use the Psicrystal Affinity to get the Psicrystal. Psicrystals confuse me, it tells me to use the stats from another page but not WHICH stats to use as it repeatedly tells me to use my stats on a lot of it.

[Fouredged Sword]

It is a lot like a paladin's mount or a arcane caster's familiar.

Ok, we start with this base

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/monsters/psicrystal.htm

Now, ignore it's saving throws. It uses your base saving throw you gained from class levels + your relevant attribute. Nothing else.

It gains natural armor and intelligence as you gain in levels.

It also gains the listed abilities. Flight is nice when you get it.

Skills, it uses your ranks, but nothing else from you. It also gets a few ranks for free if you don't invest in those skills. Notably, it is a dimunitive creature with 4 ranks in hide and move sci and a positive dex modifier. It can sneak fairly well.

It can only see 40ft, but can do so in any lighting condition.

Also, it has HD equal to your total level in manifester classes. This means that it gains feats. Good ones include mindsight, and darkstalker.

[Perpetr8r]

How much Natural Armor and Intel does it gain compared to My level progression? +1 per level or something more sane like+1 per two or three levels?

[Fouredged Sword]

Here is the chart.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/classes/psion.htm#psicrystals

Basically +1 int and natural armor at 3rd level and every odd level after that.

[Perpetr8r]

Very nice, thank you.

[Bloodgruve]

Psionics is quite fun.

You could go for natural attacks.

Claws of the Beast (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/clawsoftheBeast.htm), prolly have to manifest it twice for 4 arms. It says you get 2 claw attacks as a full action but also says they work just like natural weapons so I'd rule that all 4 are usable during a full attack. Tail of the Dragon (found in Secrets of Sarlona sourcebook) adds another natural attack as a tail.

Throw on Jaws of Death (http://dndtools.eu/feats/races-of-eberron--10/jaws-of-death--1699/) and Multiattack (http://dndtools.eu/feats/monster-manual-v35--5/multiattack--1997/)(convince your DM to let you use it) and you now have 6 attacks per round, 5 of which can be augmented for higher damage, 2 at full attack and the rest at only -2 to hit. Expanded Knowledge (http://http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/psionicFeats.htm#expandedKnowledge) or a dip into Psychic Warrior gives you the powers. Or go Ardent and use the Substitute Power ACF (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20070629a) to put Claws and Tail into Natural World mantle to gain access to them with a higher PP pool.

Take Dimension Hop power with Freedom Mantle for a swift teleport at low cost. Now you're a mutated blend of Nightcrawler and Wolverine. Throw in Energy mantle and you get lasers like Cyclops... Wolvightcrawlclops....

GL
Blood~

*Sorry bout that last paragraph, got carried away...

[Perpetr8r]

Wow thats impressive, I never understood mantels but i will give them a look.

got a Gestalt question, could you combo Psion and Erudite?

[Bloodgruve]

Spell to Power ACF Erudite (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20070629a) gives you access to any Spell in the game and most powers. Gestalt this with Ardent and use the Substitute Power ACF to get Psi Warrior and other class powers and you should have access to everything Arcane, Divine and Psionic.

Mantles are like Domains for Clerics. Cept the ACF lets you mess with um.

[Fouredged Sword]

I prefer, if I am going to stack psionic with psionic, to go

Psithief 20 // Psion 10 / Slayer 10.

You get good bab, good skills, cool abilities, and more PP than you really need.

[Perpetr8r]

This is gonna be from start at lvl 1 on at least as far as I know now.

So the ardent has the ACF substitution to get the psywarrior class features?

[Bloodgruve]

How can you pass up Psionic Divine Power (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/divinePower.htm) though? ;)

[Bloodgruve]

Substitute Power Alternate Class Feature lets you, with your DM's permission, mess with the Mantle power lists. So Claws of the Beast and Tail of the Dragon are both Psionic Warrior powers. But thematically they give you natural attacks. So see if you can toss um into the Natural World mantle or Conflict or Strength mantles to gain access to them.

[Perpetr8r]

Is your avi an Illithid?

Well I will consider that combo for sure, will need to examine it to see if it fits a style I like.

Thanks for the help. I do like the Spell-to-Power feature and the ability to continue picking up powers from stones and people. But their UPD limitation sucks.