How to identify True Seeing?

[Acrinos]

I'm working on an Illusionist, at this level in the campaign true seeing has become fairly common making my Illusions useless. I currently have Invisible Spell, what I need is a way to identify when my opponents have true seeing so I know when to apply Invisible Spell to my illusions.

[Spuddles]

I had a wizard that liked to discern who had high spot checks by "handling his orbs" via sleight of hand. A similar method should work for you:

Cast a permanent enlarge and stiffen on your character's penis.
Take your pants off.
Put on illusionary pants.
Problem solved.

[Acrinos]

I had a wizard that liked to discern who had high spot checks by "handling his orbs" via sleight of hand. A similar method should work for you:

Cast a permanent enlarge and stiffen on your character's penis.
Take your pants off.
Put on illusionary pants.
Problem solved.

Pure genius.

[LanSlyde]

First time back on the forum in weeks, did not disappoint. I love you people. |^_^|

[Valwyn]

You could try (Greater) Arcane Sight. If you're afraid someone might use it mid-combat, try Spellcaster's Bane (Complete Mage).

Alternatively, paint an invisible Symbol of X on your shirt. Or, if someone in the party is being a pain, paint invisible Explosive Runes on them.


I had a wizard that liked to discern who had high spot checks by "handling his orbs" via sleight of hand. A similar method should work for you:

Cast a permanent enlarge and stiffen on your character's penis.
Take your pants off.
Put on illusionary pants.
Problem solved.

Pfft. Sorcerers and Bards don't need magic for that. :smallbiggrin:

[Stux]

Sorry if I'm missing something here, but how does Invisible Spell make your illusions useful against enemies with True Seeing?

From the text for Invisible Spell:


Those with detect magic, see invisibility, or true seeing spells or effects active at the time of the casting will see whatever visual manifestations typically accompany the spell

[galan]

Invisible fog cloud. he can see it, the party can't.

[Stux]

Invisible fog cloud. he can see it, the party can't.

That is a nifty trick!

But is that all the OP is hoping to achieve?

[Valwyn]

The Chains of Disbelief (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/specialistWizardVariants.htm) ACF might help.


Furthermore, even when presented with incontrovertible proof that the illusion isn't real, creatures must still succeed on a Will saving throw to see objects or creatures that the illusion obscures, although they get a +10 bonus on the saving throw.

So, even if they know the illusion is a fake, they need to make a Will save. Not sure if that's how it was meant to interact with True Seeing, but given the +10 they get against the save, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Not to mention it's actually a bit limited since it only stops people from noticing you're disguised, invisible, or behind an illusory wall, but they automatically know that dragon over there is a fake.