List Of Humans With Unusual Ancestry In 3.5 ?

[ElectricMadman]

I would like my fellow members to list all races that are humans with some non-human blood , feats whose fluff implies or mentions cross-species mating in a human's family tree, or other fluff and such mentioning humans with some with non-human ancestors.......

ex. Tieflings, Other Planetouched, Deathtouched, Bloodlines....

[Maginomicon]

The heritage feat lines (Draconic, Fey, Fiendish)

[ArqArturo]

I'd include Illumians, because their blood is tainted with magic.

[Muggins]

Mongrelfolk probably take the cake here. They're like the humanoid equivalent of mongrels who have lived on the streets for generations.

[CRtwenty]

All the bloodlines from Unearthed Arcana.

[NeoPhoenix0]

Here's some human subraces not yet listed.

Cynideans (Elder Evils)
Empty Vessels (Eberron-CS)
Karsite (Tome of Magic)
Neanderthal (Frostburn)
Sea Kin (Races of Destiny)
Skulk (Races of Destiny)
Underfolk (Races of Destiny)
Vasharan (BoVD)

[Darth Stabber]

Assimar, tiefling, chaond, zenithri, genasai, and mephlings probably count.

Azurin (humans touched by incarnum) absolutely count.

[Jeff the Green]

Assimar, tiefling, chaond, zenithri, genasai, and mephlings probably count.

Azurin (humans touched by incarnum) absolutely count.

Add to that axani, cansins, and para- and quasi-genasi, all from Dr. 297.

[Asrrin]

Silverbrow Humans!

[The Viscount]

Changelings, Kalashtar, and Shifters (Eberron Campaign Setting)
Half-Ogre (the race) and Sharakim (Races of Destiny)

[Xervous]

TLDR

humans breed with EVERYTHING

[gurgleflep]

See post above!

^^^ All of that!

Would Illithid heritage feats count as an unusual ancestry?

[ElectricMadman]

Yes, Illumian Heritage would count, I think...........

[ArqArturo]

^^^ All of that!

Would Illithid heritage feats count as an unusual ancestry?

I don't think tadpole insertion via ear counts as breeding.

[hamishspence]

It's possible to apply the Half-illithid template from Underdark to humans- though that has more to do with experimentation.

I think the Dragon Magazine issue with the Heritage feats actually said that Illithid Heritage simply means your ancestors were altered by their experiments.

[CTrees]

It's not 3.5, but Pathfinder has the Racial Heritage feat. Fluff notes that the blood of a non-human ancestor flows through your veins. The fun part is, Racial Heritage allows *any* humanoid as its "you are part ______" effect. Things like kobolds or grippli are interesting, but the humanoid type also includes some much more exotic members.

[ShurikVch]

Some more:
Aquatic Human (UA)
Aventi (Stormwrack)
Death-Touched (DR313)
Deep Imaskari (Underdark)
Elan (XPH)
Hellbred (FC2)
Tarmak (DCS)

Aberrant Feats (LoM)
Abyssal Heritor Feats (FC1)
Bloodline of Fire (PGtF)
Heritage Feats (PH2)
Native Bloodlines (DR338)
Planar Bloodlines (DR311)
Necromatic, Plant, Illithid, Serpent Bloodlines (DR325)
Snake Blood (PGtF)


I don't think tadpole insertion via ear counts as breeding. Illithid Heritage is not from "tadpole insertion". It's from experiments, or descendants of illithids with failed ceremorphosis.

[Slipperychicken]

I know the regional feat Troll-Blooded, from Dragon Magazine. Implies troll heritage.


Can we include templated humans? If so, there are countless possibilities, since almost all creature templates are applicable to humans.

[Darth Stabber]

TLDR

humans breed with EVERYTHING

I am reminded of something I read in The Dilbert Future by scott adams:



The problem is that humans are dumb, greedy, and horny. That is why dogs are better, they're just dumb and greedy, assuming you get them fixed. Of course you could get your friends fixed too, but it's going to be harder, and they're going to whine the whole time

[Waker]

Shifters, Jotunbrud feat.

[ArqArturo]

I am reminded of something I read in The Dilbert Future by scott adams:

Obviously Scott has never met any of my dogs.

[Jeff the Green]

Bloodlines have been mentioned, but I don't think bloodline feats (from DrC) have been. There's air, anarchic, axiomatic, celestial, draconic, earth, fey, fiendish, fire, illithid, necromantic, penumbral, plant (!), serpent, and water.


It's possible to apply the Half-illithid template from Underdark to humans- though that has more to do with experimentation.

I think the Dragon Magazine issue with the Heritage feats actually said that Illithid Heritage simply means your ancestors were altered by their experiments.

I prefer the explanation that you're an illithid ancestor.

[Telok]

Necromatic, Plant, Illithid, Serpent Bloodlines (DR325)


Wait... Somebodys' been porking the shrubbery? Some adventurer was desperate enough to go after a yellow musk zombie? What?

[hamishspence]

There's at least one humanoid, intelligent plant race- volodni in Unapproachable East.

[mabriss lethe]

Weren't Raptorans human before they cut the deal that let them fly?

[hamishspence]

I thought that they were elves originally (they have Low Light Vision, and their language is derived from Elven.)

[Novawurmson]

Refer to my signature for what I've come to believe about the matter.

[mabriss lethe]

Daelkyr Half-bloods.

[Darth Stabber]

Refer to my signature for what I've come to believe about the matter.

It also explain dragon shaman. They seek to emulate dragons, and have no knowledge:arcana, which is why they have healing auras.

[ElectricMadman]

I believe that if it exists, a human will breed with it.

[ArqArturo]

I believe that if it exists, a human will breed with it.

A friend had a bard that, literally, has screwed out of problems.

The lowest point in the bard's career was when we faced kobolds.

... Yup.

[One Step Two]

There's a half-dwarf from Dragonlance Races of Ansalon

And technically, centaur if you want to go there. Anything with the Tauric Template, really.

[Jeff the Green]

I believe that if it exists, a human will breed with it.

I think the only types we don't have a mix of are animals, constructs, oozes, and vermin:

Aberration: half-farspawn
Animal: :smalleek:
Construct: :smallconfused:
Dragon: Half-dragon, draconic
Elemental: genasi
Fey: fey heritage feat
Giant: Jotunbrud, half-giant
Humanoid: half-elves
Magical beast: Phoelarch
Monstrous humanoid: hagspawn
Ooze: :smalleek:
Outsider: aasimar, tiefling, zenythri, chaonds
Plant: plant bloodline feat
Undead: necromantic bloodline feat
Vermin: :smallyuk:


Dragons beat us, though. They've got everything but constructs.

[Waker]

I think the only types we don't have a mix of are animals, constructs, oozes, and vermin:
Plant: plant bloodline feat
Undead: necromantic bloodline feat
Vermin: :smallyuk:
But not for a lack of trying.

[ArqArturo]

Dragons beat us, though. They've got everything but constructs.

Just lop off some commoner's limbs, strap on some golem parts and call him a half-golem.

He turned Chaotic Evil? Not my problem, I make construct half-breeds, not heroic construct half-breeds. Besides, he never asked for this.

[ElectricMadman]

One could easily produce a human who through MAD SCIENCE-MAGIC technically has a construct ancestor.

First , use Stone To Flesh, or something else which turns the inanimate into the biological , on a construct.

Then, get a horny lab assistant of yours to breed with the now-organic construct.

Through the strangeness of the human ability to hybridise, offspring will result.

Breed the biological construct's offspring with other humans.

Repeat for several generations.

[LOTRfan]

See, I don't think stone-to-flesh would give constructs reproductive parts.

[Failed Phantasm]

Aberration: half-farspawn


Aren't half-farspawn technically native outsiders? :smallconfused:

[Thurbane]

It also explain dragon shaman. They seek to emulate dragons, and have no knowledge:arcana, which is why they have healing auras.
They added Knowledge (arcana) as a class skill in the PHB2 errata.

[ElectricMadman]

See, I don't think stone-to-flesh would give constructs reproductive parts.

They do If you design Them with Reproductive parts.

[ArqArturo]

One could easily produce a human who through MAD SCIENCE-MAGIC technically has a construct ancestor.

First , use Stone To Flesh, or something else which turns the inanimate into the biological , on a construct.

Then, get a horny lab assistant of yours to breed with the now-organic construct.

Through the strangeness of the human ability to hybridise, offspring will result.

Breed the biological construct's offspring with other humans.

Repeat for several generations.

And this how the Warforged really came to be.

[ElectricMadman]

And this how the Warforged really came to be.



I think this is how someone's ancestors came to be , at least......

[Darth Stabber]

They added Knowledge (arcana) as a class skill in the PHB2 errata.

That's not as funny!

[ElectricMadman]

Humans are Rule 34 personified in 3.5 .

[ElectricMadman]

Centaurs imply Human + Animal, possibly. If not naturally, then through experiments .

[Tvtyrant]

The Gelatinous template could be construed as the descendants of various creatures and oozes. Gelatinous humans FTL (they become mindless...)

On the other hand, the Gelatinous Hydra is hilarious and disgusting.

[danzibr]

Refer to my signature for what I've come to believe about the matter.
I love your sig :P

[ElectricMadman]

Just look at mongrelfolk for proof that humans are Rule 34 personified.

[ElectricMadman]

Rule 3d4 : If it exists in D&D , a human will produce offspring with it.

[ElectricMadman]

I think that lab assistants are the ancestors of many a strange descendent.

[ElectricMadman]

(scrubbed. Don't double and triple step and never post just to bump a thread.)

[NeoPhoenix0]

You probably shouldn't be bumping like that, at least not for a day or two.

We probably exhausted most of the ancestries without listing every single inherited template. I will mention that the kingdoms of kalamar campaign setting splits up the human race by various regions.

[Telok]

Wait... Somebodys' been porking the shrubbery? Some adventurer was desperate enough to go after a yellow musk zombie? What?

Ok, nevermind. Drove through part of town that has a drunk problem. Next to a bank there was a guy, pants around his ankles, riding an ornamental bush. Apparently this is a thing with real life examples.

I got nothin...

[Thurbane]

Half-Janni - the aftermath of the "I Dream of Jeanie" marriage episode. :P

[Gildedragon]

Nah Jeannie isn't Jann, wish granting after all. She is either an efreeti or a noble Djinn

[ElectricMadman]

Lets come up with humorous scenarios for hybridization!

[ArqArturo]

Well, one could argue that Sorcerers have some sort of unusual ancestry by definition.

[Perseus]

I always liked the idea that Humans and Dragons are one race due to their mating habits. Like at one point there was one race of Draumans that walked the earth porking everything in sight... So much that Bacchus and whatever gods of fertility got disgusted and split the race as punishment.

Boom

Dragons (high floor/low ceiling)
Humans (low floor/high ceiling)

Of course both races kept right on porking everything and the gods just threw up their hands in a huffed and said *fine whatever*

Then proceeded not to change them back into one race.

[ElectricMadman]

What does high floor/low ceiling and low floor/ high ceiling mean?

[NeoPhoenix0]

Optimization levels. Dragons have some strong inherent traits but their level adjustment makes them top out fast. Humans can be horrible commoners or god level wizards. Even better humans can be tier zero sorcerers.

[ElectricMadman]

Got it. Let's think of humorous crossbreeding scenarios now.......

[gurgleflep]

Got it. Let's think of humorous crossbreeding scenarios now.......

Something like these?
Three-quarterling:
Human thought the halfling was a midget little person.

Half-goblin:
Human got drunk, goblin was sober - goblin has a thing for taller races.

Or more like this?
So, an orc walks into a tavern and sees a lovely, auburn haired woman sitting at the bar...

[Norin]

Hagspawn is just nasty. Eww. :smalleek:


Hags usually use charms and/or coercion to get male humans to mate with them as only the most depraved (and suicidal) individual would be willing to mate with a hag.

[ElectricMadman]

Something like these?
Three-quarterling:
Human thought the halfling was a midget little person.

Half-goblin:
Human got drunk, goblin was sober - goblin has a thing for taller races.


Like those!

[Thurbane]

Half-lings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_ling) are actually the results of humans breeding with fish...

Rather than furry footed mini-humans, you'd think they'd look like this:
http://www.dotd.com/mm/kuotoa.gif

[ElectricMadman]

Part-Aberration:
" One day, your eccentric bookworm (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TomeOfEldritchLore) friend , Edgar-Nyarl (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast) "Eddie" Howard Quercy ,
casually tells you a funny story about how his great-great-great-grandparents (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DidYouJustRomanceCthulhu) met....... "




No-one may steal Eddie's concept.

[ElectricMadman]

After telling the story, Eddie's friend started stepping back warily .

[Roland St. Jude]

Sheriff: This thread is riddled with double posts and inappropriateness. Inappropriate discussion seems the unavoidable track of the thread now. Thread locked.