Robilar's Gambit questions

[GlorinSteampike]

I'm under the impression that most people think Robilar's gambit doesn't get multiple AoO from someone attacking them more than once per turn.

ie, someone attacks you 3 times, you still only get 1 AoO because of the same action clause. The text is confusing and says every strike provokes, but every time you exit a threatened square you provoke, but you can still only make 1 AoO for that action type correct?

Also, someone once said there's an FAQ that says Karmic Strike and Robilar's Gambit and Riposte AoOs don't stack, but the feats all have slightly different requisites concerning whether the opponent provokes(ie, One is attacking you, One is hitting you, and one is missing you).

Also, Riposte says the first opponent to attack and miss you, does this mean RAW the first opponent full attacks and miss 3 times, that's 3 AoO?

And last but not least, opponent uses a ranged attack. Robilar's says 'swing' which implies melee, but also says 'strike' which can be any attack. Would a character using a bow within your reach provoke twice?

[Tantaburs]

As far as I can interpret you get as many AoOs as they get attacks against you. However these are still limited by the rules regarding AoOs (one per turn without Combat Reflexes) as gambit requires Reflexes you would get as many as your dexterity mod.

[prufock]

ie, someone attacks you 3 times, you still only get 1 AoO because of the same action clause.
When rules conflict, specific trumps general. Robilar's Gambit text is more specific than AoO general rules, so it overrides. You get an attack of opportunity every time they attack at you. Even generally, each individual action should be considered separate, ie casting 2 spells in a threatened area should provoke 2 AoOs.


Also, someone once said there's an FAQ that says Karmic Strike and Robilar's Gambit and Riposte AoOs don't stack, but the feats all have slightly different requisites concerning whether the opponent provokes(ie, One is attacking you, One is hitting you, and one is missing you).
The wording seems clear enough that they should stack, since they are specific rules overriding the AoO rules. Robilar's Gambit makes an attack an AoO. Karmic Strike makes hitting you an AoO. Riposte makes missing you an AoO. Because of the way they are worded, they're each providing you with a separate opportunity.

I can see an argument that a successful/unsuccessful attack is also a "swing" under Robilar's, but reading the feats they all seem to me to supply different opportunities.


Also, Riposte says the first opponent to attack and miss you, does this mean RAW the first opponent full attacks and miss 3 times, that's 3 AoO?
Nope, the wording says an (one) AoO vs the first opponent that misses you. If Bob the fighter misses you three times, that still only an (one) AoO from Riposte.


And last but not least, opponent uses a ranged attack. Robilar's says 'swing' which implies melee, but also says 'strike' which can be any attack. Would a character using a bow within your reach provoke twice?
As long as they are within your threatened space, you should get the AoO from Robilar's as well as the AoO for using a bow. I would say you also get the AoO from using the bow. Robilar's uses different rules from "normal" attacks of opportunity.

Whether this is reasonable or not could be argued.

[Fouredged Sword]

Gambit provokes an AOO. You still need an AOO to use if you want to take advantage of that. Just because someone provokes an AOO doesn't mean you get to make one.

[prufock]

Rules Compendium quote for reference:

"Some abilities allow you to make more than one attack of opportunity per round. Most such abilities, unless they say otherwise, don't let you make more than one attack for a given opportunity. If the same opponent provokes two attacks of opportunity from you, however, you could make two separate attacks of opportunity. Each provoking act represents a different opportunity. Multiple attacks of opportunity otherwise follow the rules for normal attacks of opportunity."

Note it doesn't say "for a given action." My understanding is that the feats each provide you with new opportunities that you don't get without the feats.
Opponent attacks - AoO from Robilar's
Opponent hits - AoO from Karmic Strike
Opponent misses - AoO from Riposte
In exchange you're getting essentially a total -8 to your AC/attacks for the round.

[ddude987]

In the general rules for AoO it says you cannot AoO someone more than once in a given round IIRC

[Segev]

In the general rules for AoO it says you cannot AoO someone more than once in a given round IIRC

I believe those are the rules regarding characters normally only getting one AoO per round. Combat Reflexes changes this number.

[Fouredged Sword]

That is why you get stormguard warrior to give you something each time they provoke without using up an AOO attempt. You forgo a bunch of AOO's then attack the next round with a power attack for massive damage.

This works well on a monk / warblade with focused attack and wielding a quarterstaff as a two handed weapon. Stormguard grants static bonuses so they double when you double your damage. You can add up to 16 points of damage for each passed AOO this way if you use power attack and focuses attack.

[Segev]

Doesn't Stormguard require you to expend the AoO when you forgo it?

So a guy with 3 AoOs can't get bonuses for 20 he forsook even if 20 were provoked, because he only has 3 to forsake?

[Fouredged Sword]

It requires you to " refrain from making one or more available attacks of opportunity against a single opponent"

You can choose to not make a possible AOO without using an AOO.

You do need to keep at least 1 AOO attempt though, or you can't make AOO's if you don't have an attempt left, and thus can't choose to not make an AOO.