[PF] Pistolero/Trench Fighter - All your Dex are belong to us

[IronFist]

OK, time to get silly.

Gunslingers have the Gun Training (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/gunslinger#TOC-Gun-Training-Ex-) ability at 5th level, which gets you Dex to damage with a gun you choose. Let's choose pistols.
Trench Fighters (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo---fighter-archetypes/trench-fighter)get Trench Warfare. Choose a firearm (say, pistols) and get a bonus to damage equal to Dex. It's unnamed, so it stacks. Dex x2 to damage.
Pistolero (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/gunslinger/archetypes/paizo---gunslinger-archetypes/pistolero) gets Dex to damage with pistols. However, the text never says it removed the Gun Training feature, surprisingly. This is abusing bad editing, but here we go: Dex x3 to damage.
At level 8, our pistolero could have a Dex of 24 (starting with 20, +2 from levels, +2 from an item). That's +21 damage. Once we consider Deadly Aim, that's +25 damage per shot, with already high accuracy and targetting touch AC. You can even double wield pistols, since you have so many free feats (you only need Deadly Aim and then again all Gunslingers do), for a total of 4 attacks each at base damage +25.

[Crasical]

Trench fighter is pretty clearly intended to be used in a 'Guns everywhere+' setting where trench warfare is, y'know, a thing.
You might as well give your character a ray gun, since you're already breaking the setting for more power.

[Raven777]

Pathfinder does have ray guns. They're in Numeria, with the robots and shoggoths.

[Crasical]

Pathfinder does have ray guns. They're in Numeria, with the robots and shoggoths.

..... Are there printed stats for the ray guns?

[Raven777]

No. But here's a lightsaber (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons/magic-weapon-special-abilities/brilliant-energy) as a distraction.

[JusticeZero]

Darn. I'd have liked to see the ray gun stats as a possible thing to let the gunslingers in my game have. (The guns in that setting all channel inherent psionic power only possessed by those with a grit pool anyways, so the fluff of "but where do they find that tech and what happens when other people find out" isn't a real worry.)

[IronFist]

Btw, forgot to mention Up Close and Deadly. Our gunslinger can add +4d6 damage if he feels inclined to spend 1 grit. Since you recover grit on kills, you should start with that in your first shot. Considering a pair of +1 pistols as your weapons, we're looking at 30.5 average damage per hit for a total of 122 damage plus 14 from Up Close and Deadly for 136. No creature below CR 10 can survive that.

[theIrkin]

that's mean, and i may have to do this for the pathfinder game that should be starting soon

[ArqArturo]

Trench fighter is pretty clearly intended to be used in a 'Guns everywhere+' setting where trench warfare is, y'know, a thing.
You might as well give your character a ray gun, since you're already breaking the setting for more power.

For example, let's say, Iron Kingdom.

[IronFist]

Considering Trench Fighter is part of a Pathfinder Adventure Path, I'd say it fits pretty well in Golarion. Of course, you might disagree with the Reign of Winter writers, but that would be stretching.

[Eyclonus]

For example, let's say, Iron Kingdom.
Where the main protagonist kingdom names its largest regular combat units as Trenchers.

Also not sure about pulling this from 3.5, but play as a Githzerai for a +6 Dex bonus...

[zimmerwald1915]

Considering Trench Fighter is part of a Pathfinder Adventure Path, I'd say it fits pretty well in Golarion. Of course, you might disagree with the Reign of Winter writers, but that would be stretching.
Reign of Winter spoilers:
That's funny. My copy of Rasputin Must Die explicitly points out the differences between Golarion and Earth, saying that, unlike on Golarion, on Earth "guns are everywhere. Early firearms are seen as antiques, and advanced firearms are widespread. Firearms are considered simple weapons, and the gunslinger loses the gunsmith class feature and instead gains the gun training class feature at 1st level." The Trench Fighter archetype is also described in the book as modeling a "modern soldier" of the "twentieth century". The way I read that text, I get the impression that the Trench Fighter archetype would not fit well into Golarion, at least not unless you make guns much more common when you use the setting.

[IronFist]

I thought it was in Golarion since it's in a Pathfinder Adventure Path, never knew they had any on Earth. Read it from pfd20srd.

[zimmerwald1915]

I thought it was in Golarion since it's in a Pathfinder Adventure Path, never knew they had any on Earth. Read it from pfd20srd.
Oops. Sorry if I spoiled Reign of Winter for you :smallredface:

[Raven777]

Reign of Winter has a large part of the adventure where you planet and dimension hop in search for Baba Yaga across the multiverse. You eventually end up fighting Rasputin on Earth around WWI, in the 5th book (http://paizo.com/products/btpy8yv5). It's kind of crazy.

[ArqArturo]

Reign of Winter has a large part of the adventure where you planet and dimension hop in search for Baba Yaga across the multiverse. You eventually end up fighting Rasputin on Earth around WWI, in the 5th book (http://paizo.com/products/btpy8yv5). It's kind of crazy.

That. Is. Awesome!.

And Gunslingers would go nuts.