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ArcanistSupreme
2013-08-06, 10:08 AM
So let's say that a bunch of players are throwing together characters for a one-shot campaign (or they are just lazy), and they don't want to spend much time going through books to pick out gear. Are there magic item bundles out there similar to the starting bundles in PHB II? What items are considered necessities for characters of various levels? If none exists, I'd like to compile such bundles here in one handy place. Is this feasible? At what level does this become impractical?

Would a chart like this work?
{table=head]Level|Melee|Arcane|Divine|Skilled
2|masterwork weapon, masterwork breastplate, heavy steel shield, 200 gp|Wizardy stuff|Cleric/Druidy stuff|masterwork weapon, masterwork studded leather, masterwork tool, 250 gp
3|Melee stuff|Wizardy stuff|Cleric/Druidy stuff|Skill Monkey stuff
4|+1 weapon, +1 breastplate, +1 heavy steel shield, 600 gp|Wizardy stuff|Cleric/Druidy stuff|Skill Monkey stuff
5|Melee stuff|Wizardy stuff|Cleric/Druidy stuff|Skill Monkey stuff
6|Melee stuff|Wizardy stuff|Cleric/Druidy stuff|Skill Monkey stuff
7|Melee stuff|Wizardy stuff|Cleric/Druidy stuff|Skill Monkey stuff
8|+2 Weapon, +3 breastplate, +1 heavy steel shield, gauntlets of ogre power, cloak of resistance +1, brooch of shielding, 350 gp|Wizardy stuff|Cleric/Druidy stuff|Skill Monkey stuff
9|Melee stuff|Wizardy stuff|Cleric/Druidy stuff|Skill Monkey stuff
10|Melee stuff|Wizardy stuff|Cleric/Druidy stuff|Skill Monkey stuff
11|Melee stuff|Wizardy stuff|Cleric/Druidy stuff|Skill Monkey stuff
12|Melee stuff|Wizardy stuff|Cleric/Druidy stuff|Skill Monkey stuff
etc.|Melee stuff|Wizardy stuff|Cleric/Druidy stuff|Skill Monkey stuff[/table]

EDIT: Started adapting stuff from PHB II

Palanan
2013-08-06, 11:03 AM
If I'm not swordsage'd, allow me to suggest Shax's Indispensible Haversack (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148101), by the Playground's own indispensible Darrin.

ArcanistSupreme
2013-08-06, 11:13 AM
If I'm not swordsage'd, allow me to suggest Shax's Indispensible Haversack (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148101), by the Playground's own indispensible Darrin.

While I am a big fan of that thread, it is my understanding that it is more for providing the non-essentials; the stuff that is really good and high in utility, but not what you would consider core items to a character. I'm talking about stuff like +1 weapons, rings of protection +X, and stat boosters. These are all things that, especially for melee, make it difficult to face an appropriate CR challenge without because they are factored into monster design.

gorfnab
2013-08-06, 12:24 PM
Fill that Slot! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149464) has some nice suggestions for equipping gear.

Tegannie
2013-08-06, 12:35 PM
The near the end of Magic Item Compendium there are rules for selecting equipment by item/character level instead of by price. Each item has a level and each character gets a certain number of items of each level based on there character level.

IIRC, it's two items of each level, up to character level, so a level 5 character would have two level 1 items, two level 2 items, etc up to two level 5 items. And you can trade (I think) two level lower level items for a higher level item. It might work in reverse too (trading one item of a higher level for two items of a lower level).

The MIC has tables of all of the items in the MIC and DMG by item level to make it easier.

ArcanistSupreme
2013-08-06, 04:35 PM
So is my dream too ambitious/lazy?

Kuulvheysoon
2013-08-06, 04:47 PM
There's something like this at the end of the PHB2, but I can't recall if it's for NPC wealth or PC wealth.

sleepyphoenixx
2013-08-06, 04:55 PM
There's also the handy List of necessary magic items (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187851). That should list everything essential aside from weapons/armor.

Vedhin
2013-08-06, 05:01 PM
Don't forget to stop by Bunko's (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=1002)!

And this (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=477) is handy for making class abilities better.

Grod_The_Giant
2013-08-06, 05:07 PM
So is my dream too ambitious/lazy?
It's a great, great dream, but a pretty ambitious one.

If someone (not me) were to try, I'd say to start with the quick NPC tables in the PHB 2 and update them for PC wealth. (Being sure to leave a decent-sized discretionary fund for wands, wondrous items and the like)

Edit:
There's something like this at the end of the PHB2, but I can't recall if it's for NPC wealth or PC wealth.
NPC, sadly.

ArcanistSupreme
2013-08-06, 06:32 PM
Okay, so I took a look at the table in PHB II and am using it as a starting point for my table. Now I just want to incorporate this

Shax's Indispensible Haversack (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148101)

this


Fill that Slot! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149464)

more of this


PHB2

and these


Bunko's (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=1002) and this (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=477)

into my table. I am open to any and all suggestions for tweaks and improvements.


It's a great, great dream, but a pretty ambitious one.

If someone (not me) were to try, I'd say to start with the quick NPC tables in the PHB 2 and update them for PC wealth. (Being sure to leave a decent-sized discretionary fund for wands, wondrous items and the like)

Don't be bashful! Even if you could tweak just one or two entries in the PHB II for me to copy paste into my table, that would be incredibly helpful! Crowd-sourcing makes for light work.