LGBTAitp #40: Technicolor Partyboat

[Lady Serpentine]

Hello, all! This is the fortieth incarnation of the LGBTAitP thread! The thread is to support, celebrate and discuss anything that falls outside the bounds of what is hetero/cisnormative. It is first of all a support thread, and then an education thread. If you want answers about some of the more difficult and trigger inducing aspects of LGBTA, there are a number of people listed below who can answer questions - though no-one should feel like they can't post their question more publicly because of this.

Please note that although the title of the thread names only the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, and Asexual communities, it is intended as an all inclusive environment. Everyone is welcome. L, G, B,T, A, Q, I, A, N, V, P, R, Q, Ω, ♅, all combinations of those letters and symbols, everyone. As long as they behave themselves.

If you have a question or two about LGBTA+ matters, you can ask it here! You can ask for advice and support in here. And you can just hang out with all of the lovely people, too, if you like.

In addition, many members are willing to give private advice one on one, either through email or PM. The best way to do this is asking for PM help in thread, or else to PM one of the following people:

Name: Especially familiar with the topic(s) of
KenderWizard: General/basics, gender and feminism, bisexuality
Musashi: General/basics, asexuality/demisexuality, depression
noparlpf: General/basics, asexuality, greysexuality, biology, Skype
Lea Plath: Genderfluidity
Lycunadari: Genderqueer and agendered
Eldest: General/basics, bisexuality, polyamory, pansexuality will Skype(voice if needed, no video)
Karen Lynn: General/basics, pansexuality, polyamory, will Skype(no voice or video, however)
HMS Sophia: Trans stuff (esp hormones)
Lix Lorn: General/basics
Tanail: Trans stuff (esp emotional issues), Skype(no voice or video, however)
Absol197: Gender identity issues
Warkitty: Academic/technical discussions
Lentrax: General/basics, depression, bullying
Wormwood74: Transgender legal issues, transgender outside contacts
Astrella: GSRM rights, feminism, trans stuff, Skype
Asteron Questar: Relationships, depression
Mystic Muse: Skype-y goodness.
Socratov: Skype-ness
Chess435: Skype
Irish Musician: PM, Rants/Venting
Metditto: PM/Skype for L, T, GQ, BDSM(Off-thread or Spoiler Triggered), demisexual, feminism, therapy, depression, dissociative identities
inuyasha: Shoulder on which to cry, someone to listen
Partysan: PM/Skype, polyamory, pansexuality, BDSM(Off-thread or Spoiler Triggered), Rants/Venting

Some people are also willing to talk off-board, through Skype or email or other means, this is especially useful if your question involves board-forbidden topics such as religion or politics. Also, we can't (and ethically shouldn't!) give medical advice. If you need medical advice, please see a professional!


Here are the rules of this thread!


Everyone is welcome. Let's try to keep from seeming otherwise.
Keep this topic free of politics and religion. (so, don't violate the board rules, plz)
It's beyond the scope of this thread to discuss whether LGBT is "Right." (And really, most discussions probably should avoid moralizing too much anyway)
Please refrain from posting sexually explicit content. (Keep it friendly as well as board safe :smallsmile:)
If you know something's a trigger for someone, please put it in a spoiler with a relevant tag in front of it.


Here are the links for the previous threads, where much of use or interest may be found:
LGBT people in the playground (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62225)

LGBT people in the playground - part II (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86066)

LGBTitp - part III (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5663140#post5663140)

LGBTitp 4: We are a family? (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129235)

LGBTitp - Part Five (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143424)

LGBTitp - Part Six (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147832)

LGBTitp - Part Seven (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157312)

LGBTitp - Part Eight (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167395)

LGBTitp - Part Nine (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172747)

LGBTAitp - Part Ten (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177253)

LGBTAitp - Part Eleven (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181683)

LGBTAitp - Part Twelve (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10335967#)

LGBTAitp - Part Thirteen (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192714)

LGBTAitp - Part Fourteen (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200329)

LGBTAitp - Part Fifteen (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207987)

LGBTAitp - Part Sixteen (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11820872#)

LGBTAitp - Part Seventeen (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219966)

LGBTAitp - Part Eighteen! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223792)

LGBTAitp - Part Nineteen (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=227182)

LGBTAitp - Part Twenty - Critical Hit! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12613347)

LGBTAitp - Part Twenty-One - BLACKJACK! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233833)

LGBTAitP Part 22: The Best There Is (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236828)

LGBTAitP Part 23: Et tu, ~Bianca? (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=239610)

LGBTAitP: Alphabet Soup-with 24 different Vitamins! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13243754)

LGBTAitP part 25: Doing Away With Subtitles (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249030)

LGBTAitP 26: No Time For Snappy Titles (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=253352)

LGBTAitP 27: Of Shoes, and Ships, and Sealing Wax (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256951)

LGBTAitP #28: Come Taste the Rainbow! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14110484#post14110484)

LGBTAitP #29: The Rainbow Outreach Program (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262926)

LGBTAitP 30: Free Cuddles (Enquire Within) (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=267638)

LGBTAitP #31: Cuddles Are On Back Order. Have Some Snuggles! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=272099)

LGBTAitp #32: The Great Plushie Invasion! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=275839)

LGBTAitp #33: The Thread at the End of the Rainbow! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=278799)

LGTAitP #34: <3!! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281021)

LGBTAitp #35: What Midlife Crisis? :3 (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284121)

LGBTAitp #36: May Contain Bites! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286734)


LGBTAitP #37: Once upon a time... (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288693)

URL="http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=290671"LGBTAitP #38: Once More With Feeling!![/URL]

And, for reference, here is the Thousand&Wordster Dictionary of Commonly Used LGBTAitp Words and Phrases

Lagerbeta: A fine brewski to be drunk by queers and allies.
LGBT: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans*
Trans*: Transsexual and Transgender
LGBTA: LGBT+Asexual/Allies
QUILTBAG: Q - Queer and Questioning
U - Unidentified
I - Intersex
L - Lesbian
T - Transgender, Transexual
B - Bisexual
A - Asexual
G - Gay, Genderqueer
Allies: Straight people that support equality for sexuality and gender minorities.
MtF: Male-to-Female: A woman born with male nibblies, who may or may not be seeking HRT and/or SRS. (AKA: trans woman)
FtM: Female-to-Male: A man born with female nibblies, who may or may not be seeking HRT and/or SRS. (AKA: trans man)
GQ: Genderqueer.
CS: Cis-sexual: sex and gender match (a male with male nibblies, a female with female nibblies.
TS: Transsexual: Sex and gender disparity.
HRT: Hormone replacement therapy. MtF's take more progestrogens and oestrogens and FtM's take more testosterone (I think?)
SRS: Sex Reassignment Surgery: Surgery to replace/transform a vagina into a penis, or vice versa depending on direction. Mastectomies or plastic surgery may be used on breasts.
FFS: Facial Feminization Surgery: Plastic surgery to reduce chin/nose/cheekbones. not very common.
AFAB/AMAB: Assigned Female/Male at Birth
FAAB/MAAB: Female/Male Assigned at Birth.


Man: A cisman or transman. Male.
Woman: A ciswoman or transwoman. Female.
Androgyne: Gender Identity with male and female aspects.
Genderfluid: Someone who fluctuates between male and female.
Agendered: Someone who feels neither male nor female.
Third-gendered: Someone who fits in a local society's third gender, usually male performing female tasks, occasionally vice versa.
Masculine: Something generally associated with men.
Feminine: Something generally associated with women.

Lesbian: A woman who is attracted to women.
Gay: A man who is attracted to men.
Homosexual: A person who is attracted to members of their gender.
Heterosexual: A person who is attracted to members of the opposite gender.
Bisexual: A person who is attracted to two genders (usually men and women, sometimes transgender instead of one of those).
Pansexual: A person who is attracted to people regardless of gender.
Asexual: A person who does not feel any/some sexual attraction.
Demisexual: A person who is sexually attracted to someone(s) they have formed an intense emotional relationship with.
Polyamorous: A person who is interested in a relationship with more than one person.
Radosexual: A person who is only attracted to rad people.
Pomosexual: A person who avoids SO labels.

Sexual Orientation: How one identifies who they are attracted to. (SO)
Gender Identity: How one feels inside society's idea of "man, woman, or other". (GI)
Gender Expression: How one expresses their GI to society. (GE)
Significant Other(s): Person you are in a relationship with. (SO)


Webcomics that touch on... Well, everything related to the thread.

Venus Envy. (http://www.venusenvycomic.com/) Long dead webcomic. The creator has chosen not to continue it and move forward in life.
Rain. (http://rain.thecomicseries.com/comics/first/) A story of a MtF girl in high school.
Khaos Komix. (http://www.khaoskomix.com/)As the creator puts it(from his site): "A complete GLBTWTFBBQ comic about gender and sexuality. (Trigger warnings for EVERYTHING and nothing is safe for work.)"
Always Raining Here. (http://alwaysraininghere.com/index.php/first-page/) "Adrian is heartsick, Carter is horny. This is a story about their misadventures as awkward teenagers as they fumble through unrequited romances."
Tripping over you. (http://trippingoveryou.com/comic/gmorning-sunshine/)An awkward blind date leads to better options.
Questionable Content. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/) The LGBTA characters are well done, and not stereotypes.
What's normal anyway. (http://whatsnormalanyway.net/?p=93) An FtM webcomic. Seems decent so far.

I know I missed a few webcomics, and if anyone finds more, feel free to PM them to me with a brief description, and I will add them.


The Brand New LGBTA Arts & Crafts Thread! (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288941)

The thread title is credit of the lovely Gail, who I would have allowed to have the honor this time, save that, unfortunately, she was not online and we really did need to get it up.

And thanks for picking me, everyone~

[turkishproverb]

Technicolor Partyboat? Isn't that that terror Wonka used?

*sets out punch and cookies*

[noparlpf]

I didn't see a link in the old thread, so I added one. Unfortunately, that bumped our post count up to 1501. It would have been a perfect run of 1500 posts and I ruined it.

[Lady Serpentine]

I was called away from the computer, sadly. But thank you. :smallsmile:

[Morcleon]

Technicolor Partyboat? Isn't that that terror Wonka used?

*sets out punch and cookies*

Nah, a search for Technicolor Partyboat on Google only brings up this thread. However, a search for Technicolor Dreamboat brings up this musical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_and_the_Amazing_Technicolor_Dreamcoat). :smalltongue:

Still, I like the title. :smallsmile:

~Setsuna~

[Raineh Daze]

I didn't see a link in the old thread, so I added one. Unfortunately, that bumped our post count up to 1501. It would have been a perfect run of 1500 posts and I ruined it.

You did. I'm ashamed. :smallwink:

[turkishproverb]

Nah, a search for Technicolor Partyboat on Google only brings up this thread. However, a search for Technicolor Dreamboat brings up this musical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_and_the_Amazing_Technicolor_Dreamcoat). :smalltongue:

Still, I like the title. :smallsmile:

~Setsuna~

I never said I didn't like the title, just couldn't resist the joke :smallsmile:

[Morcleon]

I never said I didn't like the title, just couldn't resist the joke :smallsmile:

I know. But I didn't get the joke, so I just looked it up. :smalltongue:

~Setsuna~

[turkishproverb]

Fair enough.

Now, what to do...

[Fyermind]

See I go away for a bit and I come back to a new thread! This is new and different to me. Anyway, how would I end up on that list of people to PM/Skype for issues related to Dancing?

Also, I should have a blog running by tuesday about dancing as a male follower titled "The Fairer Steps" It seemed really clever after being awake for 23 hours and I went at took it from google so it's mine now and I guess I should probably keep it. I'll post a link here when it gets going because I could really use some feedback. I haven't been in quantity in well, ever.

Finally, I'm on a boat.

[turkishproverb]

See I go away for a bit and I come back to a new thread! This is new and different to me. Anyway, how would I end up on that list of people to PM/Skype for issues related to Dancing?

Nice of you to do.


Also, I should have a blog running by tuesday about dancing as a male follower titled "The Fairer Steps" It seemed really clever after being awake for 23 hours and I went at took it from google so it's mine now and I guess I should probably keep it. I'll post a link here when it gets going because I could really use some feedback. I haven't been in quantity in well, ever.

Sounds interesting. I wouldn't mind reading it.


Finally, I'm on a boat.

Must...resist...song...lyrics...

[MetDitto]

I got told I was pretty by a trans guy and also that it bothered him how one person at the dungeon we both frequent refers to me with male pronouns and how he would talk to them about it... It was the first time in a while where someone told me I was pretty and I believed then... Stupid, I know. :smallredface:

[turkishproverb]

Congrats Ditto! :smallsmile: And yea, it takes some people a while to behave. Just remember, sometimes they still mean well.

[Absol197]

So new thread, same issues. I'm dying of nerves for tomorrow. My therapist called me this morning and asked for my birthday, because she needed to put it in the letter. That sounds promising, because at least she's working on it, but how much time will she have to go see her supervisor between then and tomorrow morning?

Also, I had the day off today, because the managers were having the employee meetings about me. I'm officially out at the office. It's going to be only slightly terrifying going back in tomorrow. Hopefully everyone is alright...I used the day to get fingerprinted, so now I just need to send the prints off to the FBI and CBI to do a background check on me. Once I get that back, I'll be off and running.

And finally...I got called "ma'am" today! In public! I was going into my favorite restaurant to get lunch, and the host called me "ma'am"! That was...I can't describe how happy that made me. :smallsmile::smallredface:


~Phoenix~

[turkishproverb]

congrats Pheonix!

[MetDitto]

Congrats Ditto! :smallsmile: And yea, it takes some people a while to behave. Just remember, sometimes they still mean well.

Oh, I just haven't talked to her about it yet, she'll be fine with it. It bothers him more than me I guess :P

[Fyermind]

Phoenix! Yay. stuff. Also meh stuff, but like YAY! Also, that moment when you realize you are going to spend all of your money at one place because they really seem to care for you and are capable of being civil.

Ditto: woo! I love it when I trust people.

[Eirala]

Nah, a search for Technicolor Partyboat on Google only brings up this thread. However, a search for Technicolor Dreamboat brings up this musical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_and_the_Amazing_Technicolor_Dreamcoat). :smalltongue:

Still, I like the title. :smallsmile:

~Setsuna~

It's a really nice musical, at least the version i went to a year ago or so :smallsmile:


So new thread, same issues. I'm dying of nerves for tomorrow. My therapist called me this morning and asked for my birthday, because she needed to put it in the letter. That sounds promising, because at least she's working on it, but how much time will she have to go see her supervisor between then and tomorrow morning?

Also, I had the day off today, because the managers were having the employee meetings about me. I'm officially out at the office. It's going to be only slightly terrifying going back in tomorrow. Hopefully everyone is alright...I used the day to get fingerprinted, so now I just need to send the prints off to the FBI and CBI to do a background check on me. Once I get that back, I'll be off and running.

And finally...I got called "ma'am" today! In public! I was going into my favorite restaurant to get lunch, and the server called me "ma'am"! That was...I can't describe how happy that made me. :smallsmile::smallredface:


~Phoenix~


I got told I was pretty by a trans guy and also that it bothered him how one person at the dungeon we both frequent refers to me with male pronouns and how he would talk to them about it... It was the first time in a while where someone told me I was pretty and I believed then... Stupid, I know. :smallredface:

Double *weeeeeeee*
I'm happy for you two, Ditto and Phoenix ^_^

I'm currently finishing my thesis, the night's already over so no sleep for me today (or if i'm lucky i get about 30 min ^^). Gonna turn it in in about 3-4 hours, depending on when it's complete. But at least i'm pretty much happy with the thesis ^.^ The birthday party later will be interesting though :smallbiggrin: But i certainly won't miss it. Perhaps i'll sleep a few hours though and come late.
I'm already much less stressed out than in the last months :smallsmile:

~Katharina~

[Fyermind]

I'm currently finishing my thesis, the night's already over so no sleep for me today (or if i'm lucky i get about 30 min ^^). Gonna turn it in in about 3-4 hours, depending on when it's complete. But at least i'm pretty much happy with the thesis ^.^ The birthday party later will be interesting though :smallbiggrin: But i certainly won't miss it. Perhaps i'll sleep a few hours though and come late.
I'm already much less stressed out than in the last months :smallsmile:

~Katharina~

Yay for stress reduction. Also sleep is for the human. Make of that what you will. Parties are fun when sleepy because you don't have to drink to legitimately act drunk.

[Eirala]

Yay for stress reduction. Also sleep is for the human. Make of that what you will. Parties are fun when sleepy because you don't have to drink to legitimately act drunk.

I certainly hope i don't act like i'm drunk when i'm tired, because i'm totally annoying when i'm drunk. At least i was the one time i was drunk. ^^

[golentan]

I think I'm getting a crush on a guy in my RPG group. He's physically unattractive to me, but he's very sweet and seems to fit my "shy guy" archetype. Anyway, that's it for me today.

[turkishproverb]

I think I'm getting a crush on a guy in my RPG group. He's physically unattractive to me, but he's very sweet and seems to fit my "shy guy" archetype. Anyway, that's it for me today.

You're adorable when you get all "crushy", you know that?

[Eldest]

I was gone for 18 hours and there were four pages and a new OOTS! AHHHHH! :smalleek:

Annnnyway.

Stuff from last thread

i know it's a bit of a shift and i don't hang around here often, but i have something to ask.

some of the trans (-sex, -gender and -vestite) folks I volunteer with can't seem to figure out how to convincingly fake breasts. does anyone have advice or links to guides?

edit: ok that sounded awkward, this is part of a conversation i got dragged into because im one of the only cis-males that's around consistently.

Unrelated, where do you work because I kind of want to do something similar for volunteering. It'd be nice, I think?


The number of people on the internet that're tall seems to be more than the number that're small. Some people have got to be lying. :smalltongue:

I am tall and I have Karen to verify! :smalltongue:

[golentan]

You're adorable when you get all "crushy", you know that?

I know. It's my secret weapon to keep people from realizing how awful I truly am. :smalltongue:

[Kittenwolf]

I am tall and I have Karen to verify! :smalltongue:

I'm 5'7 or 5'8, which I think works well for both boy & girl mode :)

[Silverrida]

I'm 5'7 or 5'8, which I think works well for both boy & girl mode :)

I can confirm that this would be fine regardless of gender.

Not that that needs confirming, I just like typing.

[Chess435]

I'm a hair under 6 feet, but can't put any meat on these bones to save my life. No matter how much I eat, my ribs still stick out a bit. :smalleek:

[hoverfrog]

I'm a hair under 6 feet, but can't put any meat on these bones to save my life. No matter how much I eat, my ribs still stick out a bit. :smalleek:I used to have the same problem but your metabolism changes as you get older. Now all I have to do to put on weight is think about not eating salad. :smallmad:

Well, it's not so bad. I've dropped 70lbs over the last two years by eating healthily and exercising and it took over a decade to gain that much.

[Mina Kobold]

I got told I was pretty by a trans guy and also that it bothered him how one person at the dungeon we both frequent refers to me with male pronouns and how he would talk to them about it... It was the first time in a while where someone told me I was pretty and I believed then... Stupid, I know. :smallredface:


So new thread, same issues. I'm dying of nerves for tomorrow. My therapist called me this morning and asked for my birthday, because she needed to put it in the letter. That sounds promising, because at least she's working on it, but how much time will she have to go see her supervisor between then and tomorrow morning?

Also, I had the day off today, because the managers were having the employee meetings about me. I'm officially out at the office. It's going to be only slightly terrifying going back in tomorrow. Hopefully everyone is alright...I used the day to get fingerprinted, so now I just need to send the prints off to the FBI and CBI to do a background check on me. Once I get that back, I'll be off and running.

And finally...I got called "ma'am" today! In public! I was going into my favorite restaurant to get lunch, and the host called me "ma'am"! That was...I can't describe how happy that made me. :smallsmile::smallredface:


~Phoenix~

Congrats! I'm happy that two awesome people got rightfully complimented. Hope it continues. ^_^


I'm 5'7 or 5'8, which I think works well for both boy & girl mode :)

Jelly, I'm 188 cm (6'2 and 1/64 inches) tall. :(

Totally unfitting for a Kobold, really. Plus, probably going to make it difficult to get people to clock me correctly. Stupid gender norms. >_<


I'm a hair under 6 feet, but can't put any meat on these bones to save my life. No matter how much I eat, my ribs still stick out a bit. :smalleek:

Hmm, if that is not the desired state, then that's awful. Wish I could help, but my metabolism is not exactly the same and skinny is usually my preferred state... ^_^'

[WarKitty]

'Splaining privilege can be a massive headache. Just saying.

[Xodion]

New thread, woo!

It's been a little heated around here lately, some friends have fallen out and I am trying to look after both sides without upsetting the other. Another pair of friends have broken up and I'm trying to comfort both of them without upsetting the other. Our Tuesday night D&D group had a falling out, thankfully the one to leave was the obnoxious guy who was really intolerant of playing genders other than the one you were presenting as (I've known him for years, even though he is a bit of a jerk), rather than my friend that I am out to.

Also I was too scared to go to Pride on Sunday, instead I hid under the duvet and cried :smallfrown:

[HMS Sophia]

New thread, woo!

It's been a little heated around here lately, some friends have fallen out and I am trying to look after both sides without upsetting the other. Another pair of friends have broken up and I'm trying to comfort both of them without upsetting the other. Our Tuesday night D&D group had a falling out, thankfully the one to leave was the obnoxious guy who was really intolerant of playing genders other than the one you were presenting as (I've known him for years, even though he is a bit of a jerk), rather than my friend that I am out to.

Also I was too scared to go to Pride on Sunday, instead I hid under the duvet and cried :smallfrown:

Ooh, that's always an awful situation to be in :(

Come to Manchester Pride late in August? I'll probably end up going, though I don't know whether I'll be dressing or not.

[Sabeki]

Sniffs thread

MMMMmmmm, still has that new thread smell. I wonder how long this one will last!

[Triscuitable]

Sniffs thread

MMMMmmmm, still has that new thread smell. I wonder how long this one will last!

Fifty pages.

[Lauren]

Skeppio, we can always meet up again to get that good vibe going. Have you been able to read through your book and find anything particularly pertinent to show your mum?

Height: I'm 5'7", which is about four inches above average for an Australian woman (yeah, I just googled it out of curiosity). I weigh more than I should but less than my highest ever weight, and for the last year I've been either losing or maintaining but not gaining weight. I kind of got a crappy draw in the genetic lottery: heavy build, frizzy hair, bad eyesight, and of course the lovely mental health issues (depression, maybe bipolar maybe not, and anxiety).

Um. Rambled there. Sorry.

On topic: I just got linked on Twitter to this video (http://colourfulchange.com.au/entries/view/27), which is an entry for the 'Colourful Change' competition through the Royal Australian Mint, focusing on marriage equality. It's just 45 seconds long and very cute.

[Skeppio]

Skeppio, we can always meet up again to get that good vibe going. Have you been able to read through your book and find anything particularly pertinent to show your mum?

Possibly... I'm busy this weekend though, so it'd have to wait until after then. :smallfrown:
I haven't read all of it yet. The first section (out of three) is pretty good though.

[Xodion]

Ooh, that's always an awful situation to be in :(

Come to Manchester Pride late in August? I'll probably end up going, though I don't know whether I'll be dressing or not.

Pretty much everyone IRL I'm out to was going to be there (couple of dozen people) and I couldn't face it, so going to another one without them seems even scarier, but thanks for the offer.

I'm feeling better now anyway - one of my friends who I have a big crush on messaged me last night, to check I was okay after not showing on Sunday, which was nice :smallredface:

Also, speaking of dressing up, now I've found my camera I took some photos of my favourite outfit combo to post (vaaaaaaain), but now I'm at work and left them at home! :smallsigh:

[Hazuki]

Also, speaking of dressing up, now I've found my camera I took some photos of my favourite outfit combo to post (vaaaaaaain), but now I'm at work and left them at home! :smallsigh:Nothing wrong with being vain. :3

[Philemonite]

Well, that was not fun. I did (very) heavy lifting all night, from 10PM to almost 6AM. Then I went to sleep and slept until 1PM. Still so tired, but I have to go to work soon.

Hugs and cake for everyone.

[Thattaman]

Sorry for the following short rant: Why can't I seem to figure anything out. Anytime I think I know my own sexuality I do or think all these conflicting thoughts and actions. God, it's frustrating. :smallannoyed: I'd rather not say what I've been doing, but it is against everything I thought I was both as person and my sexuality. I really just want to be gay, without all these weird thoughts about girls and stuff. It's making me question everything and setting my back months of introversion. :smallmad:

Sorry about that.

[ImperiousLeader]

Wow, these threads move fast.

[Irish Musician]

@Phee - HOLYCRAPTHATISAWESOMEIMSOEXCITEDFORYOU!!!!!


I think I'm getting a crush on a guy in my RPG group. He's physically unattractive to me, but he's very sweet and seems to fit my "shy guy" archetype. Anyway, that's it for me today.
:smallamused: Well, attraction isn't all about physical prowess anyway. You can be attracted to someone's personality or mind, but not to their body. Who knows, with time you might by physically attracted to them, the more you know them. :smallsmile:

I was gone for 18 hours and there were four pages and a new OOTS! AHHHHH! :smalleek:

Annnnyway.

Stuff from last thread


Unrelated, where do you work because I kind of want to do something similar for volunteering. It'd be nice, I think?
MY wife works at a barn that does Riding Therapy for kids with physical and mental disabilities. Awesome volunteer opportunity there if you have one in your area, and like horses or want to learn more about them.

I know. It's my secret weapon to keep people from realizing how awful I truly am. :smalltongue:
Bollocks! I call bollocks on "how awful I truly am"!! :smallwink:

Fifty pages.
huehuehuehuehue, that made me giggle in a less manly way than I would care to admit :smalltongue:

Sorry for the following short rant: Why can't I seem to figure anything out. Anytime I think I know my own sexuality I do or think all these conflicting thoughts and actions. God, it's frustrating. :smallannoyed: I'd rather not say what I've been doing, but it is against everything I thought I was both as person and my sexuality. I really just want to be gay, without all these weird thoughts about girls and stuff. It's making me question everything and setting my back months of introversion. :smallmad:

Sorry about that.
Well, don't put so much pressure on yourself, you might be Bisexual, or you might just be going through a curious phase or something. Point is, don't feel like you have to be something, we are an ever changing people and are always figuring out more about ourselves the more we live. I know that doesn't help the frustration at the moment, but you will figure out what is going on with you and as Rafiki says, "You can either run from it....or, learn from it!":smallsmile:

Wow, these threads move fast.
Like Lightning!

~Matthew~

[Lentrax]

Whelp. Like I said last thread, I'm not going anywhere.
Even though the dramatic entrance was denied me. :P
Phee: So happy to hear that work is finally getting done on your letter, though my offer to make some harassing phone calls is still valid.

[Karen Lynn]

Blarg.

I've decided I'm just going to stay male. Not bother with transition. Hope y'all have a wonderful time. I'm out.

[Philemonite]

Blarg.

I've decided I'm just going to stay male. Not bother with transition. Hope y'all have a wonderful time. I'm out.

Something wrong?

[Lady Serpentine]

Blarg.

I've decided I'm just going to stay male. Not bother with transition. Hope y'all have a wonderful time. I'm out.

*Hugs tightly*

What happened, love? Anything I can do to help? :smallfrown:

[Mono Vertigo]

*briefly pops in*
Hi, this is the Hug Deliverywoman. Sorry for the wait. Luckily, the policy of the house is that if I'm 30 pages late or more, you don't pay for the hugs.
You don't pay the rest of the time, either, actually. I should ask the manager to take another look at that policy. Hey, Self, don't fire me, but I think the policy might needs to be revised or reworded, thank you.
Here is henceforth your order:
*hugs*
*hugs*
*hugs!*
*more hugs*
*some more hugs!*

EDIT: oh nonono. You stay here, please, we'll miss you.
Well, that, or you come back whenever you want.
And you tell us what's going on.
If or when you want, of course.
I'm... not optimal at comforting people, perhaps.

[Karen Lynn]

I just quit. I've been disowned, I got a complaint filed for having my nails painted, I can't be happy. Every time I get closer, something stupid happens and it's just too much. I can't handle it anymore. It isn't worth the effort. Any more.

-Joseph

[Irish Musician]

I just quit. I've been disowned, I got a complaint filed for having my nails painted, I can't be happy. Every time I get closer, something stupid happens and it's just too much. I can't handle it anymore. It isn't worth the effort. Any more.

-Joseph

Simply all of the hugs dear.....every, single, one of them.

M

[Mono Vertigo]

About the complaint, there is something we could do.
Complain about the complaint.
Spread the word, boycott the company as much as possible, and let management appreciate the ratio of complaints vs. counter-complaint.
You don't have to fight alone, you know.

[Philemonite]

I just quit. I've been disowned, I got a complaint filed for having my nails painted, I can't be happy. Every time I get closer, something stupid happens and it's just too much. I can't handle it anymore. It isn't worth the effort. Any more.

-Joseph

Please don't give up Karen, we all love you.

[Lentrax]

I just quit. I've been disowned, I got a complaint filed for having my nails painted, I can't be happy. Every time I get closer, something stupid happens and it's just too much. I can't handle it anymore. It isn't worth the effort. Any more.

-Joseph

Karen, honey. I love you. I want you to know that before I go on.

You have already endured so much, why quit now? We love you, and will support you however we can, but we can help you fight this.

A lot of the things that have gone wrong for you can be mitigated or even written off, and I know I for one want to help you continue becoming who you want to be.

For some inspiration:

http://s15.postimg.org/fck13j0qj/image.jpg

[Durmatagno]

I just quit. I've been disowned, I got a complaint filed for having my nails painted, I can't be happy. Every time I get closer, something stupid happens and it's just too much. I can't handle it anymore. It isn't worth the effort. Any more.

-Joseph

Come here and take the hugs of someone who'll listen. This world is stupid and cruel, don't give in just because of that. If you do, your just another victim of this cruel world, and the people in it. A chance at happiness that would come with the transition should be worth more than any obstacle should stop. I know you don't know me, and I don't know you, but I like to try and help, and a friend of mine showed me the thread.

[Raineh Daze]

I just quit. I've been disowned, I got a complaint filed for having my nails painted, I can't be happy. Every time I get closer, something stupid happens and it's just too much. I can't handle it anymore. It isn't worth the effort. Any more.

-Joseph

Even I, that's barely talked to you at all, think you're worth far more than that. And you've got everyone on here that loves you, too.

[hoverfrog]

Blarg.

I've decided I'm just going to stay male. Not bother with transition. Hope y'all have a wonderful time. I'm out.I'm certainly not an expert but I'm pretty sure that it doesn't work like that. Whether your genitals are on the outside or the inside doesn't determine your gender identity. Having said that everyone here seems really supportive so I would think that there would be no problem supporting you whatever your decision.

[Kneenibble]

Budgie hugs for the new thread.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/9cf31e45ddded0038c0f3259f5264eff/tumblr_mr8x3yYMzV1suj4ejo6_500.jpg



Sorry for the following short rant: Why can't I seem to figure anything out. Anytime I think I know my own sexuality I do or think all these conflicting thoughts and actions. God, it's frustrating. :smallannoyed: I'd rather not say what I've been doing, but it is against everything I thought I was both as person and my sexuality. I really just want to be gay, without all these weird thoughts about girls and stuff. It's making me question everything and setting my back months of introversion. :smallmad:

Sorry about that.

If it comforts you, I find a refreshing and delicious irony in your situation. The very reverse of myself in ages past.

[golentan]

I just quit. I've been disowned, I got a complaint filed for having my nails painted, I can't be happy. Every time I get closer, something stupid happens and it's just too much. I can't handle it anymore. It isn't worth the effort. Any more.

-Joseph

I hope things work out, and you find your happy place whatever you decide. And please keep coming here at least? All of the hugs to you.

[The Succubus]

Blarg.

I've decided I'm just going to stay male. Not bother with transition. Hope y'all have a wonderful time. I'm out.

I remember, once upon a time a time, there was a transwoman at a truck stop. A bunch of guys were mocking her and making her feel like crap. She probably felt like giving up and that she should never have transitioned. Another transwoman came along, kissed her and held her.

We are here to kiss you and hold you, Karen. And we will never let you go.

[Karen Lynn]

Stupid world not letting me feel bad. Just accidentally got called ma'am at a drop. "Sorry, I saw long hair and purple shirt."

Why must everything try to make me feel better when I'm down? Sucks. :3

Thank you all.

[Lady Serpentine]

Stupid world not letting me feel bad. Just accidentally got called ma'am at a drop. "Sorry, I saw long hair and purple shirt."

Why must everything try to make me feel better when I'm down? Sucks. :3

Thank you all.

Because you deserve it.

And you're welcome. :3

[Durmatagno]

Stupid world not letting me feel bad. Just accidentally got called ma'am at a drop. "Sorry, I saw long hair and purple shirt."

Why must everything try to make me feel better when I'm down? Sucks. :3

Thank you all.

Glad your feeling better. You can thank C'nor for me stopping by, real friend they are. :3

Seeing as I'm a pansexual, I may as well stick around anyway. :smalltongue:

[Raineh Daze]

Stupid world not letting me feel bad. Just accidentally got called ma'am at a drop. "Sorry, I saw long hair and purple shirt."

Why must everything try to make me feel better when I'm down? Sucks. :3

Thank you all.

Because making you feel better when you're already happy might cause a cheersplosion and we don't want to have to clean up the mess? :smalltongue:

[Lentrax]

Stupid world not letting me feel bad. Just accidentally got called ma'am at a drop. "Sorry, I saw long hair and purple shirt."

Why must everything try to make me feel better when I'm down? Sucks. :3

Thank you all.

'Cause we love you silly. *bops nose*

[Irish Musician]

Stupid world not letting me feel bad. Just accidentally got called ma'am at a drop. "Sorry, I saw long hair and purple shirt."

Why must everything try to make me feel better when I'm down? Sucks. :3

Thank you all.

Silly lady, of course we are going to make you feel better! :smallamused:

M

[Zorg]

@ Karen - everyone's said it better, but I'm glad you're sticking around.


@ Thattaman - took me a while to come to grips with my sexuality, I wanted to be a lesbian, but had to accept that I'm attracted physically to boys too (though not romantically 'cause boys smell :smalltongue: )

@ Phee - great news :smallsmile:


@ Me - Heard in a rather circuitous manner at work that "there's a rumour going around that [I'm] transgender".

Going to make the meeting about gender identity discrimination (when it eventually happens) ~awesome~ :smallsigh:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mebcg12n0M1qc6yaxo1_250.gif

[Lentrax]

Hey Zorg, don't tell anyone you heard it from me, but there's another rumor going around you should hear.

*leans in and whispers*

You're awesome. And cute.

[Philemonite]

Hey Zorg, don't tell anyone you heard it from me, but there's another rumor going around you should hear.

*leans in and whispers*

You're awesome. And cute.

I heard that rumor too.:smalltongue:

[Astrella]

I'm glad you're feeling a bit better at least, Karen, please don't give up.

[Lady Serpentine]

Whoops, should have space cleared in a moment, Lena, sorry~

[Zorg]

Hey Zorg, don't tell anyone you heard it from me, but there's another rumor going around you should hear.

*leans in and whispers*

You're awesome. And cute.


I heard that rumor too.:smalltongue:

Yeah, yeah :smalltongue:

Most irritating thing is that it's happening and I'll have to deal with it, not the subject of the rumour per se. Not a huge fan of people talking about my business [/michaelcorleone]
Isn't really a big deal, just another annoyance.

Also possibly going to attempt to talk to my daughter on Monday. Maybe.

[The Succubus]

Going to make the meeting about gender identity discrimination (when it eventually happens) ~awesome~ :smallsigh:

Yes but you are a fantastic example of how successful transitioning can be, so don't lose heart. :smallsmile:

[HMS Sophia]

Going out in Manchester tonight! ^^ Okay, so I'm presenting male, but I don't care, I havn't been out in so long.

[Lady Serpentine]

Going out in Manchester tonight! ^^ Okay, so I'm presenting male, but I don't care, I havn't been out in so long.

Aww, too bad you have to present male, but glad you're going out~ Have fun!

[Raineh Daze]

Going out in Manchester tonight! ^^ Okay, so I'm presenting male, but I don't care, I havn't been out in so long.

I'm not sure whether to be impressed or pity you for the location. :smallamused:

[HMS Sophia]

I'm not sure whether to be impressed or pity you for the location. :smallamused:

:smalltongue: Ther is nothing... okay, not that much... not a huge amount wrong with manchester. And hey, it's actually accepting of people unlike various other northern places.

[Raineh Daze]

:smalltongue: Ther is nothing... okay, not that much... not a huge amount wrong with manchester. And hey, it's actually accepting of people unlike various other northern places.

I will admit that my view of the North mostly consists of the M6, seeing as I haven't been there properly since I was three. :smalltongue:

Oh, wait, and Sheffield for a funeral last year. Does that count? I can't remember.

[Hazuki]

Is it wrong of me for feeling bad for wanting to share good news? It feels like it would be inappropriate of me to do so, or bragging, when so many people here are going through difficult stages in their lives.


Going out in Manchester tonight! ^^ Okay, so I'm presenting male, but I don't care, I havn't been out in so long.I hope you have fun~

[Raineh Daze]

Is it wrong of me for feeling bad for wanting to share good news? It feels like it would be inappropriate of me to do so, or bragging, when so many people here are going through difficult stages in their lives.

Yes, it's wrong to feel bad for wanting to remind people that there's good things in the world as well as bad. Too much negativity is never a good thing if it's not balanced out.

[Lentrax]

Is it wrong of me for feeling bad for wanting to share good news? It feels like it would be inappropriate of me to do so, or bragging, when so many people here are going through difficult stages in their lives.

I hope you have fun~

Good news gives us something to cheer about.

Commiserating is good, but too much is not.

[Thattaman]

I will admit that my view of the North mostly consists of the M6, seeing as I haven't been there properly since I was three. :smalltongue:

Oh, wait, and Sheffield for a funeral last year. Does that count? I can't remember.

Hey, the north of England is the best part! Although, Manchester isn't nearly as good as Leeds. :smallbiggrin:

@Everyone, I know I'm probably bi/pan but also homoromantic, so being attracted to girls but not wanting a relationship can be irritating. I'd rather just be attracted physically to people I'm also emotionally attracted too. Also, would anyone mind having an off-forum discussion about less forum appropriate stuff?

[Lady Serpentine]

Is it wrong of me for feeling bad for wanting to share good news? It feels like it would be inappropriate of me to do so, or bragging, when so many people here are going through difficult stages in their lives.


Feel free to share good news, dear. We don't mind~

[Astrella]

Hey, the north of England is the best part! Although, Manchester isn't nearly as good as Leeds. :smallbiggrin:

@Everyone, I know I'm probably bi/pan but also homoromantic, so being attracted to girls but not wanting a relationship can be irritating. I'd rather just be attracted physically to people I'm also emotionally attracted too. Also, would anyone mind having an off-forum discussion about less forum appropriate stuff?

Feel free to pm me for contact info.

[Chess435]

Yay, my internets have returned! :smallbiggrin:

[Lentrax]

Chessie!

*tackleglompsnuggles*

[PairO'Dice Lost]

Also, would anyone mind having an off-forum discussion about less forum appropriate stuff?

You can PM me for contact info as well.


By the way, hello again everyone. Long time no post...two threads, I think? I've been really busy, but things have been mostly all right aside from some drama over Fourth of July weekend (party + crazy homophobes + alcohol = :smallannoyed:). Hugs and cookies (store bought, sorry, can't bake worth a damn) to those who need them.

[Chess435]

Chessie!

*tackleglompsnuggles*

^_^ *snuggles back* It's so nice to know that you guys care. :smallredface::smallsmile:

[Raineh Daze]

You can PM me for contact info as well.


By the way, hello again everyone. Long time no post...two threads, I think? I've been really busy, but things have been mostly all right aside from some drama over Fourth of July weekend (party + crazy homophobes + alcohol = :smallannoyed:). Hugs and cookies (store bought, sorry, can't bake worth a damn) to those who need them.

You can buy and bake hugs? :smallconfused:

[Lentrax]

^_^ *snuggles back* It's so nice to know that you guys care. :smallredface::smallsmile:

Always. I'm the creepy stalker who follows you everywhere, but then turns out to be the guy who knows exactly the information you need to solve a huge crisis right in your path, and after that one meeting, he isnt so creepy anymore.

That's me.

C nor, you dpcwnn do such things, but only on the fouthtuesday of the last
Month yourmembered boring the ipad for your ,brother and musing kit onto ...


Failing asleep is not best tie time to post I apologize for not speaking goad.
Z

[Irish Musician]

You can buy and bake hugs? :smallconfused:
Yeah, haven't you ever seen Titus, the play? :smallamused:

[Triscuitable]

Dropkick puppies and then I type the words in my head.

Submit post

[turkishproverb]

I know. It's my secret weapon to keep people from realizing how awful I truly am. :smalltongue:

Well if you're half as adorable in person they might have to keep me off of you at a meetup some time. :smallamused:





Also, speaking of dressing up, now I've found my camera I took some photos of my favourite outfit combo to post (vaaaaaaain), but now I'm at work and left them at home! :smallsigh:

Nothing wrong with being vain. :3

At least a little bit vain. A lot is a bad thing.

Also, glad you're feeling better Xodion.


Sorry for the following short rant: Why can't I seem to figure anything out. Anytime I think I know my own sexuality I do or think all these conflicting thoughts and actions. God, it's frustrating. :smallannoyed: I'd rather not say what I've been doing, but it is against everything I thought I was both as person and my sexuality. I really just want to be gay, without all these weird thoughts about girls and stuff. It's making me question everything and setting my back months of introversion. :smallmad:

Sorry about that.

Just let things flow and don't worry about labels too much.


Blarg.

I've decided I'm just going to stay male. Not bother with transition. Hope y'all have a wonderful time. I'm out.

I just quit. I've been disowned, I got a complaint filed for having my nails painted, I can't be happy. Every time I get closer, something stupid happens and it's just too much. I can't handle it anymore. It isn't worth the effort. Any more.

-Joseph


*GIANT HUGS!*

Sorry things are bad for you right now.



Karen, honey. I love you. I want you to know that before I go on.

You have already endured so much, why quit now? We love you, and will support you however we can, but we can help you fight this.

A lot of the things that have gone wrong for you can be mitigated or even written off, and I know I for one want to help you continue becoming who you want to be.

For some inspiration:

http://s15.postimg.org/fck13j0qj/image.jpg
Did you ever actually watch the show?


Stupid world not letting me feel bad. Just accidentally got called ma'am at a drop. "Sorry, I saw long hair and purple shirt."

Why must everything try to make me feel better when I'm down? Sucks. :3

Thank you all.

See, that's a good thing.


The world doesn't hate you, it's just got some annoying people in it.


Glad your feeling better. You can thank C'nor for me stopping by, real friend they are. :3

Seeing as I'm a pansexual, I may as well stick around anyway. :smalltongue:

Welcome!

[Xodion]

I hope everyone is feeling better, some sad things on here today :smallfrown: *hugs and cakes for everyone that wants them*

I am feeling better, so that's good. Also I keep forgetting to leave my name at the bottom - Xodion is my go-to online profile name, but it's an old D&D character and I'd rather be called Jay here because it's my real name :smallsmile: (but not the name on my birth certificate :smalltongue:).

Just had an awesome D&D game, we had a couple of weeks free while a couple of players were away so we invited some other friends and our DM pre-built characters for a two-week mini campaign. Pre-built characters was my idea, to test our roleplaying skills - we had no idea who or what we would be playing - and it worked really well. I was playing one half of a married couple in the party, both female IC, and we got such a great vibe going. I even decided that I used Shield Other on our wedding rings every morning, because I'm the tough paladin and they are the squishy rogue :smallbiggrin:

And finally, I'm at home now! Spoilered for photo and clothes waffling:

http://s23.postimg.org/8x6porzvr/Fav_outfit.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/8x6porzvr/)
This is my corset, steel-boned and awesome, and my favourite skirt. It was donated by a friend and is a bit big, but I love the colours :smallsmile:. I'm also a little heavy on the makeup, but I have thick dark stubble that even shows up through my skin :smallsigh:

Bonus game - identify the geeky stuff in the background!

~Jay~

[Lauren]

Possibly... I'm busy this weekend though, so it'd have to wait until after then. :smallfrown:
I haven't read all of it yet. The first section (out of three) is pretty good though.

Yeah, I'm busy this weekend anyway, and then next week I'm working five days (yay, money!) and only have Sunday free at this stage.


Nothing wrong with being vain. :3

I've been preening a little over the compliments on my new Facebook photo, so while we're being vain, here it is:

http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee415/notalwaysweak/My%20Photos/P8020572.jpg

Taken by Neo_Leviathan a few minutes before he dyed my hair purple!



Sorry for the following short rant: Why can't I seem to figure anything out. Anytime I think I know my own sexuality I do or think all these conflicting thoughts and actions. God, it's frustrating. :smallannoyed: I'd rather not say what I've been doing, but it is against everything I thought I was both as person and my sexuality. I really just want to be gay, without all these weird thoughts about girls and stuff. It's making me question everything and setting my back months of introversion. :smallmad:

Sorry about that.

Alfie, it's okay. You are young yet; you have time to figure it out, and change your mind again and again and again. When I was your age, I didn't know there was a word for what I was. When I was sixteen I knew I was bisexual. A few months ago, I knew I was pansexual. Right now, I just ID as queer (as I've mentioned, terminology fights on Tumblr... *sighs*). It's okay to not know, and to keep changing your mind, and to not have a label at all.

I'm sorry you're feeling bad about it, but please believe me when I say that you don't have to feel bad, that it's okay to not settle on one label forever.


Blarg.

I've decided I'm just going to stay male. Not bother with transition. Hope y'all have a wonderful time. I'm out.

Oh no you don't. Well, okay, how much you do or don't transition is up to you - I sure can't come over there and change it - but please, please don't leave the thread over what's happened. We love you and care about you.


I remember, once upon a time a time, there was a transwoman at a truck stop. A bunch of guys were mocking her and making her feel like crap. She probably felt like giving up and that she should never have transitioned. Another transwoman came along, kissed her and held her.

We are here to kiss you and hold you, Karen. And we will never let you go.

This legit made me tear up. You're wonderful support, Succubus.


Yay, my internets have returned! :smallbiggrin:

Hey Cody, welcome back!


I hope everyone is feeling better, some sad things on here today :smallfrown: *hugs and cakes for everyone that wants them*

I am feeling better, so that's good. Also I keep forgetting to leave my name at the bottom - Xodion is my go-to online profile name, but it's an old D&D character and I'd rather be called Jay here because it's my real name :smallsmile: (but not the name on my birth certificate :smalltongue:).

Just had an awesome D&D game, we had a couple of weeks free while a couple of players were away so we invited some other friends and our DM pre-built characters for a two-week mini campaign. Pre-built characters was my idea, to test our roleplaying skills - we had no idea who or what we would be playing - and it worked really well. I was playing one half of a married couple in the party, both female IC, and we got such a great vibe going. I even decided that I used Shield Other on our wedding rings every morning, because I'm the tough paladin and they are the squishy rogue :smallbiggrin:

And finally, I'm at home now! Spoilered for photo and clothes waffling:

http://s23.postimg.org/8x6porzvr/Fav_outfit.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/8x6porzvr/)
This is my corset, steel-boned and awesome, and my favourite skirt. It was donated by a friend and is a bit big, but I love the colours :smallsmile:. I'm also a little heavy on the makeup, but I have thick dark stubble that even shows up through my skin :smallsigh:

Bonus game - identify the geeky stuff in the background!

~Jay~

Oooh, the Shield Other spell sounds adorable and practical at the same time!

I love your skirt so much, and your tights (stockings?). I can't find nice patterned tights like that in my size. Needless to say, your corset is lovely. Altogether, an excellent ensemble; you're looking great!

I've forgotten if I mentioned this here before, and I apologise if I'm double-pimping, but there's currently a survey being done (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/12lKu-LVSXw0QXYeop7hahQoO8rDARsLIl6Dj-XgoNTo/viewform) for someone's potential phD on 'Women Who Game'. I was made aware of it via a RT on Twitter by a person whose friend is the one running the survey, so I can't cite the exact college/university the person is writing the phD thesis for, but it certainly looks legitimate and thorough. It is targeted at female gamers but there is an option to select male as gender (and there's an 'Other' option!) when filling it out so I suppose they're also looking for male POVs on women gamers.

Anyhow, I thought it would be pretty relevant to some people here, so if you have the time, pop over and share your thoughts.

[Raineh Daze]

Hm. I feel like staring at this thread title for ages and seeing what comes to mind. Not the most productive desire.

[Durmatagno]

Grrrr, I'm getting a little tired of hiding my pansexuality from my very, very, very religious family. Frustrates me (I can't even let them know I'm dating, due to some stupid religious thing. They won't let me date under their roof till I'm twenty one so I have to hide the dates with both girlfriends, and before someone makes something bad with that, they know, in fact it was the one I've been dating longer idea to bring the other girl in.)

Anywho, enough about my problems, I try not to complain to much, how you peoples doing? :3

[Eldest]

Grrrr, I'm getting a little tired of hiding my pansexuality from my very, very, very religious family. Frustrates me (I can't even let them know I'm dating, due to some stupid religious thing. They won't let me date under their roof till I'm twenty one so I have to hide the dates with both girlfriends, and before someone makes something bad with that, they know, in fact it was the one I've been dating longer idea to bring the other girl in.)

Anywho, enough about my problems, I try not to complain to much, how you peoples doing? :3

That is called Polyamority (sp?), and seeing as a decent chunk of the thread is poly, you are not going to get shamed for it. :smalltongue:

Note: decent chunk relative to the general population.

[Durmatagno]

That is called Polyamority (sp?), and seeing as a decent chunk of the thread is poly, you are not going to get shamed for it. :smalltongue:

Note: decent chunk relative to the general population.

Didn't say I was, and first shot at it. Just always put that in there because most people auto-jump to "YOU CHEATING *insert explicit here*

[Raineh Daze]

Grrrr, I'm getting a little tired of hiding my pansexuality from my very, very, very religious family. Frustrates me (I can't even let them know I'm dating, due to some stupid religious thing. They won't let me date under their roof till I'm twenty one so I have to hide the dates with both girlfriends, and before someone makes something bad with that, they know, in fact it was the one I've been dating longer idea to bring the other girl in.)

Anywho, enough about my problems, I try not to complain to much, how you peoples doing? :3

I can see how that would be a problem. More of a problem than normal, even.

Me? I'm eating cereal at nearly one in the morning because I've got my priorities and body clock all screwed up right now. Sleep at four, get up at twelve, make a sandwich or something, have dinner at six, have breakfast after midnight. XD

[turkishproverb]

Grrrr, I'm getting a little tired of hiding my pansexuality from my very, very, very religious family. Frustrates me (I can't even let them know I'm dating, due to some stupid religious thing. They won't let me date under their roof till I'm twenty one so I have to hide the dates with both girlfriends, and before someone makes something bad with that, they know, in fact it was the one I've been dating longer idea to bring the other girl in.)


I feel for you, I'm so deep in the closet to my family I think I found Narnia.

So, yea, if you need to vent, I'm here.


Anywho, enough about my problems, I try not to complain to much, how you peoples doing? :3

Lonely. very Lonely. :smallfrown::smallfrown: I don't drink and don't like loud music, so meeting people isn't the easiest for me, plus my friends are all slowly pairing up. The timing of it does make one feel like they're never going to meet someone, sometimes.

[Durmatagno]

I feel for you, I'm so deep in the closet to my family I think I found Narnia.

So, yea, if you need to vent, I'm here.



Lonely. very Lonely. :smallfrown::smallfrown: I don't drink and don't like loud music, so meeting people isn't the easiest for me, plus my friends are all slowly pairing up. The timing of it does make one feel like they're never going to meet someone, sometimes.

I know that feeling, most of my relationships the other party starts, and because I can't drink yet, I don't have those popular hangout spots to meet new people. For now I spend most of my non-internet free time in weapon and game shops meeting people. As for venting, ehh, when I vent its because I'm pissed off (messed up my arm, still need it in a sling, broke the hook for my punching bag >_<) but all in all life's /decent/ I have a few other problems that stop it from being good, but those are psychological and medical (I hate insomnia BTW)

[Raineh Daze]

I DO drink, but on the other hand I have no money and the one time I've been out on my own it was for a prom, so eh. And I have no social life to speak of. XD

[turkishproverb]

I know that feeling, most of my relationships the other party starts, and because I can't drink yet, I don't have those popular hangout spots to meet new people. For now I spend most of my non-internet free time in weapon and game shops meeting people. As for venting, ehh, when I vent its because I'm pissed off (messed up my arm, still need it in a sling, broke the hook for my punching bag >_<) but all in all life's /decent/ I have a few other problems that stop it from being good, but those are psychological and medical (I hate insomnia BTW)

Well, that's not the worst way to spend time. And if you're ticked off, I'm willing to lend an ear. Past that, I can't say too much, except that I have indeed been there.

[golentan]

Well if you're half as adorable in person they might have to keep me off of you at a meetup some time. :smallamused:


:smallredface: :smallsmile: :smallredface:

You could always come visit me...


Grrrr, I'm getting a little tired of hiding my pansexuality from my very, very, very religious family. Frustrates me (I can't even let them know I'm dating, due to some stupid religious thing. They won't let me date under their roof till I'm twenty one so I have to hide the dates with both girlfriends, and before someone makes something bad with that, they know, in fact it was the one I've been dating longer idea to bring the other girl in.)

Anywho, enough about my problems, I try not to complain to much, how you peoples doing? :3

Ouch. That is some harsh rules there. No chance things would work themselves out if you just ripped off the bandaid, is there?

[Durmatagno]

:smallredface: :smallsmile: :smallredface:

You could always come visit me...



Ouch. That is some harsh rules there. No chance things would work themselves out if you just ripped off the bandaid, is there?

Not really, so I just keep both that, the fact that I'm agnostic, and a multitude of other things hidden. Phobias, relationships, and the like, hidden. Once I'm out of the house, I could care less what they know, but why'll I have to live with them, it'd be terrible.

[Reality Glitch]

Iiii'm back.

[Durmatagno]

Iiii'm back.

Hello person I don't know, welcome back to...insanity? Yes, insanity. :P

[Raineh Daze]

I'm still here! :O

... this is worthy of a post because I'm not sure anyone has replied to a post I've made in this thread yet and I'm beginning to question if they're visible. That, or my tendency for non sequitur has reached new heights. Or lows. One or the other. :smallconfused:

[Durmatagno]

I'm still here! :O

... this is worthy of a post because I'm not sure anyone has replied to a post I've made in this thread yet and I'm beginning to question if they're visible. That, or my tendency for non sequitur has reached new heights. Or lows. One or the other. :smallconfused:

I'm sorry but I cannot process this post right now. Please contact a administrator at your nearest convince. I am sorry for this delay, please be patient.

:P

[Reality Glitch]

I'm still here! :O

... this is worthy of a post because I'm not sure anyone has replied to a post I've made in this thread yet and I'm beginning to question if they're visible. That, or my tendency for non sequitur has reached new heights. Or lows. One or the other. :smallconfused:I've only skimmed the posts above my first one, do you mean the post about drinking?

[Morcleon]

Yay, I just got 0.17 % of my skeletal structure ripped out! :smalltongue: And now I need to go through post-wisdom-teeth-removal pains. >.<

~Setsuna~


I just quit. I've been disowned, I got a complaint filed for having my nails painted, I can't be happy. Every time I get closer, something stupid happens and it's just too much. I can't handle it anymore. It isn't worth the effort. Any more.

-Joseph

I remember, once upon a time a time, there was a transwoman at a truck stop. A bunch of guys were mocking her and making her feel like crap. She probably felt like giving up and that she should never have transitioned. Another transwoman came along, kissed her and held her.

We are here to kiss you and hold you, Karen. And we will never let you go.

Stupid world not letting me feel bad. Just accidentally got called ma'am at a drop. "Sorry, I saw long hair and purple shirt."

Why must everything try to make me feel better when I'm down? Sucks. :3

Thank you all.

I met you as Karen, and I've always known you as Karen. Just fight through it sweetie. And remember, all of us care for you. :smallsmile:

~Setsuna~


Going out in Manchester tonight! ^^ Okay, so I'm presenting male, but I don't care, I havn't been out in so long.

Well, yay for going out, I suppose. Tell us how it goes, okay? :3

~Setsuna~


Is it wrong of me for feeling bad for wanting to share good news? It feels like it would be inappropriate of me to do so, or bragging, when so many people here are going through difficult stages in their lives.

Of course not. We won't judge you. :smallsmile:

~Setsuna~


@Everyone, I know I'm probably bi/pan but also homoromantic, so being attracted to girls but not wanting a relationship can be irritating. I'd rather just be attracted physically to people I'm also emotionally attracted too. Also, would anyone mind having an off-forum discussion about less forum appropriate stuff?

Well, you could simply be able to enjoy the sight of female, but only want to actually be in a relationships with male. I kinda sorta understand the frustration though.

~Setsuna~


Yay, my internets have returned! :smallbiggrin:

That's wonderful! *glomp* ^_^

~Setsuna~


By the way, hello again everyone. Long time no post...two threads, I think? I've been really busy, but things have been mostly all right aside from some drama over Fourth of July weekend (party + crazy homophobes + alcohol = :smallannoyed:). Hugs and cookies (store bought, sorry, can't bake worth a damn) to those who need them.

Aww... *hugs for you too* Is everything better now, at least?

~Setsuna~


I hope everyone is feeling better, some sad things on here today :smallfrown: *hugs and cakes for everyone that wants them*

I am feeling better, so that's good. Also I keep forgetting to leave my name at the bottom - Xodion is my go-to online profile name, but it's an old D&D character and I'd rather be called Jay here because it's my real name :smallsmile: (but not the name on my birth certificate :smalltongue:).

Just had an awesome D&D game, we had a couple of weeks free while a couple of players were away so we invited some other friends and our DM pre-built characters for a two-week mini campaign. Pre-built characters was my idea, to test our roleplaying skills - we had no idea who or what we would be playing - and it worked really well. I was playing one half of a married couple in the party, both female IC, and we got such a great vibe going. I even decided that I used Shield Other on our wedding rings every morning, because I'm the tough paladin and they are the squishy rogue :smallbiggrin:

And finally, I'm at home now! Spoilered for photo and clothes waffling:

http://s23.postimg.org/8x6porzvr/Fav_outfit.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/8x6porzvr/)
This is my corset, steel-boned and awesome, and my favourite skirt. It was donated by a friend and is a bit big, but I love the colours :smallsmile:. I'm also a little heavy on the makeup, but I have thick dark stubble that even shows up through my skin :smallsigh:

Bonus game - identify the geeky stuff in the background!

~Jay~

It seems bird names are a theme. We have Phoenix and Raven and now Jay. :smaltongue:

On the D&D thing, that's adorable. ^_^

On the corset thing, you're adorable. :3

~Setsuna~


Grrrr, I'm getting a little tired of hiding my pansexuality from my very, very, very religious family. Frustrates me (I can't even let them know I'm dating, due to some stupid religious thing. They won't let me date under their roof till I'm twenty one so I have to hide the dates with both girlfriends, and before someone makes something bad with that, they know, in fact it was the one I've been dating longer idea to bring the other girl in.)

Anywho, enough about my problems, I try not to complain to much, how you peoples doing? :3

Well, that sucks. Just try to keep it a secret, okay? Paranoia helps in this regard. :smalltongue:

And polyamory is fine. A not insignificant number of people here are polyamorous as well.

~Setsuna~


I'm still here! :O

... this is worthy of a post because I'm not sure anyone has replied to a post I've made in this thread yet and I'm beginning to question if they're visible. That, or my tendency for non sequitur has reached new heights. Or lows. One or the other. :smallconfused:

*replies to your post* :3

I know how you feel. Sometimes, my posts get lost in the maelstrom as well. If it makes you feel better, in the future, I'll always try to respond to you. ^.^

~Setsuna~

[KenderWizard]

((hugs)) for all who want them, especially Phee and Karen.

I want to hear good news in this thread, Hazuki! I love love love when people have good news to share. Means we all have more emotional energy for when we need to support each other through bad news.



Height: I'm 5'7", which is about four inches above average for an Australian woman (yeah, I just googled it out of curiosity). I weigh more than I should but less than my highest ever weight, and for the last year I've been either losing or maintaining but not gaining weight. I kind of got a crappy draw in the genetic lottery: heavy build, frizzy hair, bad eyesight, and of course the lovely mental health issues (depression, maybe bipolar maybe not, and anxiety).


Me too! I'm 170cm (about 5'7"), I weigh more than I should from 2 years of bad times with my ME (fatigue and appetite problems - I didn't feel full for 2 years- and antidepressants), but I'm slowly returning to the weight I should be at. I didn't do too badly in the genetic looks department; straight blonde hair and pretty okay bone structure, but I did somehow manage to be a sickly child born to perfectly healthy parents! I've got ME (chronic fatigue syndrome), asthma, ALL the "mild" allergies (like, no anaphylactic shock, just rashes and swollen eyelids and stuff), eczema, IBS, and chronic recurring infections. And lots of that stuff runs in families, but I guess it has to start somewhere! (In fairness, my mother's family has some IBS and my father had mild asthma and has recurring sinusitis, but the rest is out of nowhere!)

Btw, is the average height of Australian women really 5'3"? That seems kind of small!

Okay, according to wikipedia, the average Australian woman is 1.634m (5'4.5") and the average Irish woman is 1.635m. I knew ye were shorter than us. :smalltongue: (Interestingly, Irish men are an entire inch taller than Australian men, but the women are basically the same height.)

[Thattaman]

Okay, according to wikipedia, the average Australian woman is 1.634m (5'4.5") and the average Irish woman is 1.635m. I knew ye were shorter than us. :smalltongue: (Interestingly, Irish men are an entire inch taller than Australian men, but the women are basically the same height.)

What Sorcery is this? :smallbiggrin:

[Philemonite]

I feel for you, I'm so deep in the closet to my family I think I found Narnia.

So, yea, if you need to vent, I'm here.



Lonely. very Lonely. :smallfrown::smallfrown: I don't drink and don't like loud music, so meeting people isn't the easiest for me, plus my friends are all slowly pairing up. The timing of it does make one feel like they're never going to meet someone, sometimes.

That's great, we can meet up in Narnia.:smallwink:

I know that feeling. I don't go out, since I hate crowds, and constant moving around has left me without any close friends. At least I have you guys.:smallbiggrin:


Iiii'm back.

There's a glitch on my screen.:smalltongue:

[turkishproverb]

:smallredface: :smallsmile: :smallredface:

You could always come visit me...

Life's too busy now. Maybe another time. :smallwink:


Not really, so I just keep both that, the fact that I'm agnostic, and a multitude of other things hidden. Phobias, relationships, and the like, hidden. Once I'm out of the house, I could care less what they know, but why'll I have to live with them, it'd be terrible.

Sensible.


Iiii'm back.

Welcome back.


I'm still here! :O

... this is worthy of a post because I'm not sure anyone has replied to a post I've made in this thread yet and I'm beginning to question if they're visible. That, or my tendency for non sequitur has reached new heights. Or lows. One or the other. :smallconfused:

I see you. Not sure what to say, but I see you. feel free to speak up any time. I won't always respond, but I try.


That's great, we can meet up in Narnia.:smallwink:

I know that feeling. I don't go out, since I hate crowds, and constant moving around has left me without any close friends. At least I have you guys.:smallbiggrin:

We're happy to be around. Any time you want to talk. :smallsmile:

[Mina Kobold]

I've forgotten if I mentioned this here before, and I apologise if I'm double-pimping, but there's currently a survey being done (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/12lKu-LVSXw0QXYeop7hahQoO8rDARsLIl6Dj-XgoNTo/viewform) for someone's potential phD on 'Women Who Game'. I was made aware of it via a RT on Twitter by a person whose friend is the one running the survey, so I can't cite the exact college/university the person is writing the phD thesis for, but it certainly looks legitimate and thorough. It is targeted at female gamers but there is an option to select male as gender (and there's an 'Other' option!) when filling it out so I suppose they're also looking for male POVs on women gamers.

Anyhow, I thought it would be pretty relevant to some people here, so if you have the time, pop over and share your thoughts.

I do not believe you have posted it before, but I answered it and it was nice. Really liked that the gender option specified that it is asking for what gender you see yourself as, and not what you are assigned. ^_^

Thank you for posting it. :smallsmile:


Hm. I feel like staring at this thread title for ages and seeing what comes to mind. Not the most productive desire.

Letting your imagination loose is never a bad thing. It'll produce ideas and thoughts that could be useful and it will at least be relaxing and let you learn a bit about your mind. ^_^


Grrrr, I'm getting a little tired of hiding my pansexuality from my very, very, very religious family. Frustrates me (I can't even let them know I'm dating, due to some stupid religious thing. They won't let me date under their roof till I'm twenty one so I have to hide the dates with both girlfriends, and before someone makes something bad with that, they know, in fact it was the one I've been dating longer idea to bring the other girl in.)

Anywho, enough about my problems, I try not to complain to much, how you peoples doing? :3

Eek, that sounds like a terrible situation to be in with your family. Hope you can get out of there soon. ;_;

Doing pretty well, will be eating luncheon stuff, drawing stuff, listening to podcast stuff, playing Pokémon stuff and generally be doing silly things soon. :3


I'm still here! :O

... this is worthy of a post because I'm not sure anyone has replied to a post I've made in this thread yet and I'm beginning to question if they're visible. That, or my tendency for non sequitur has reached new heights. Or lows. One or the other. :smallconfused:

Sophia replied last page about the Manchester pitying and I certainly see your posts. Certainly is a problem, though... Oh, I know, Badgermoles! They can solve it! X3

[Lady Serpentine]

...playing Pokémon stuff...


Heh, Durm and I have been doing that too~

[HMS Sophia]

Okay... So I had a fantastic night. Bar, Gay pub, Gay bar, Rock club (When someone's playing Korn, the disturbed and slipknot, you know its right).

However... I should probably not drink cocktails, shots and mixers and go to bed around 0630 the day before I pick up and look after my child.... Honestly its a less than fantastic idea... I'm capable and all, but by god am I tired.

[Lauren]

Btw, is the average height of Australian women really 5'3"? That seems kind of small!

Okay, according to wikipedia, the average Australian woman is 1.634m (5'4.5") and the average Irish woman is 1.635m. I knew ye were shorter than us. :smalltongue: (Interestingly, Irish men are an entire inch taller than Australian men, but the women are basically the same height.)

Oh, I went off this site (http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/0/E11CED5FB86D178ACA257AA30014C059?opendocument) (2011-12 census data), and I think I mentally rounded 161.8 cm down to 161 instead of up to 162.

[Jormengand]

My internet is finally fixed, so I can actually communicate with you lovely people on a regular basis. :D

[Xodion]

I love your skirt so much, and your tights (stockings?). I can't find nice patterned tights like that in my size. Needless to say, your corset is lovely. Altogether, an excellent ensemble; you're looking great!


On the corset thing, you're adorable. :3

~Setsuna~

Thank you both :smallredface:


playing Pokémon stuff

Everyone loves Pokemon stuff! :smallsmile:


Okay... So I had a fantastic night. Bar, Gay pub, Gay bar, Rock club (When someone's playing Korn, the disturbed and slipknot, you know its right).

Damn right it is :3. Have you ever been to Wendy House in Leeds?


My internet is finally fixed, so I can actually communicate with you lovely people on a regular basis. :D

Yay! :smallsmile:

~Jay~

[Durmatagno]

My internet is finally fixed, so I can actually communicate with you lovely people on a regular basis. :D

Hello Jor, welcome a back to the world of the living.


Heh, Durm and I have been doing that too~

More than just us.

[Lady Serpentine]

More than just us.

Oh, right. Gail is too, of those in the thread. :smallsmile:

[Irish Musician]

Okay... So I had a fantastic night. Bar, Gay pub, Gay bar, Rock club (When someone's playing Korn, the disturbed and slipknot, you know its right).

However... I should probably not drink cocktails, shots and mixers and go to bed around 0630 the day before I pick up and look after my child.... Honestly its a less than fantastic idea... I'm capable and all, but by god am I tired.
Wait......Gay PUBS??!!!!! I need to go play these pubs! I bet all my lovely LGBTA people would sing and participate to the music (a lot better than my fellow stuffy straight people :smallwink:)!! :smallbiggrin:

My internet is finally fixed, so I can actually communicate with you lovely people on a regular basis. :D
Yay!! :D

~Matthew~

[Jormengand]

Yay!
Yay!!Yay!!!


Hello Jor, welcome a back to the world of the living.So says the man with the zombie avatar.

[Moonwolf727]

I'm caught in something of a conumdrum at the moment. I've had more time to dress up and generally enjoy myself this week and I decided to take some pictures, all but one of them with my face either not in it to begin with or cropped out. I would share them but I haven't sized them down and I can't take any smaller ones with people being around today. The size isn't urgent its just that they're blurry at full size. Also I don't really think you'd want to see them, I really don't look very good.


Oh, right. Gail is too, of those in the thread. :smallsmile:

Huh?

Oh, right. I exist don't I? What a bother, but yes, I'm doing that too. :smallsmile:

[Kindablue]

An open letter from Stephen Fry to David Cameron and the International Olympic Committee. (http://www.stephenfry.com/2013/08/07/an-open-letter-to-david-cameron-and-the-ioc/single-page/#)

[Lentrax]

Is it wrong of me to comment on this letter that I heard Stephen Fry reading it in my head?

Such a sexy voice...

[Raineh Daze]

Is it wrong of me to comment on this letter that I heard Stephen Fry reading it in my head?

Such a sexy voice...

You are not the only one to hear it in his voice. @_@

[Lentrax]

I mean, not that he doesn't make a very good point, but I uhh...

:smallredface:

[Kindablue]

I've always thought of him as being more paternal or professorial than sexy, but I guess Freud couldn't have been wrong about everything...

[Fyermind]

I'm sorry for the non sequitur.
People who have worked jobs for an extended period of time, what do you do when it seems like you can't be good enough and you are just costing your boss money without producing results?

My boss asked me to come back in again at 5 to work more (it being 2 now) and I haven't been able to do anything right. It is a temp job to help her finish a painting project, and I finished the ceiling, the part she hired me to do. The wall is probably going to need two coats, but I'm very bad at it. She's my friend, but she is better at all of this than I am by far and she keeps yelling at me for not being good enough. I am trying my hardest, and it's not up to either of our standards. Should I tell her I'm sorry but I can't keep working for her in this environment? I mean, it's probably two days (of two weeks of work) left before she finishes her part whether or not I help. I just really want some advice or something here. I feel so helpless.

[HMS Sophia]

Wait......Gay PUBS??!!!!! I need to go play these pubs! I bet all my lovely LGBTA people would sing and participate to the music (a lot better than my fellow stuffy straight people :smallwink:)!! :smallbiggrin:

~Matthew~

One of several. And also the only gay friendly drinking establishment in york is a pub.

[Raineh Daze]

One of several. And also the only gay friendly drinking establishment in york is a pub.

There are drinking establishments in York that aren't pubs?

[Eldest]

An open letter from Stephen Fry to David Cameron and the International Olympic Committee. (http://www.stephenfry.com/2013/08/07/an-open-letter-to-david-cameron-and-the-ioc/single-page/#)

I had goosebumps. Not from the voice, from the words.

[HMS Sophia]

There are drinking establishments in York that aren't pubs?

There's... two clubs? One is a chinese restaurant during the day. And not a good one.

[Irish Musician]

Is it wrong of me to comment on this letter that I heard Stephen Fry reading it in my head?

Such a sexy voice...
I am a straight, cis male......and I can't say with all confidence that Stephen Fry is super attractive to me. It isn't that I want to bounce him into bed (well, maybe) it is just that he is super intelligent and witty, not to mention he has some damn good ideas about how the world should work :smallsmile:

One of several. And also the only gay friendly drinking establishment in york is a pub.
Whoo! I love pubs, they are my favorite thing in the world. They are such an awesome place to sit, have a great time with friends (or alone honestly) and feel comfortable. A place to sing and to clap your hands with the music and for a little while, forget your worries of the world and just live int he moment.

At least, that is how I see them. :smallredface:

M

[Lentrax]

I've only ever been to one real pub.

It was in California. No idea how it compares, but I have never been anywhere else where the barman remembers my name, my drink, and gave me what he called the "big boy glass."

I miss that place...

[turkishproverb]

My internet is finally fixed, so I can actually communicate with you lovely people on a regular basis. :D

Welcome back.


I'm sorry for the non sequitur.
People who have worked jobs for an extended period of time, what do you do when it seems like you can't be good enough and you are just costing your boss money without producing results?

My boss asked me to come back in again at 5 to work more (it being 2 now) and I haven't been able to do anything right. It is a temp job to help her finish a painting project, and I finished the ceiling, the part she hired me to do. The wall is probably going to need two coats, but I'm very bad at it. She's my friend, but she is better at all of this than I am by far and she keeps yelling at me for not being good enough. I am trying my hardest, and it's not up to either of our standards. Should I tell her I'm sorry but I can't keep working for her in this environment? I mean, it's probably two days (of two weeks of work) left before she finishes her part whether or not I help. I just really want some advice or something here. I feel so helpless.

I'm not sure what to suggest. Maybe she sees potential?

[Reality Glitch]

I'm sorry for the non sequitur.
People who have worked jobs for an extended period of time, what do you do when it seems like you can't be good enough and you are just costing your boss money without producing results?

My boss asked me to come back in again at 5 to work more (it being 2 now) and I haven't been able to do anything right. It is a temp job to help her finish a painting project, and I finished the ceiling, the part she hired me to do. The wall is probably going to need two coats, but I'm very bad at it. She's my friend, but she is better at all of this than I am by far and she keeps yelling at me for not being good enough. I am trying my hardest, and it's not up to either of our standards. Should I tell her I'm sorry but I can't keep working for her in this environment? I mean, it's probably two days (of two weeks of work) left before she finishes her part whether or not I help. I just really want some advice or something here. I feel so helpless.I know exactly how you feel; I feel as though I never get anything right work-wise, but I've been getting better at it. My secret? I keep trying. My advice is to finish what you can, then apologize for any inability and look for work that isn't as hard. Take little steps (i.e. things that are only a little bit beyond your capability rather than a lot) to make getting better easier.

[Hazuki]

An open letter from Stephen Fry to David Cameron and the International Olympic Committee. (http://www.stephenfry.com/2013/08/07/an-open-letter-to-david-cameron-and-the-ioc/single-page/#)I love Stephen Fry. He's one of my idols, and I only have two, outside of my family.

[Reality Glitch]

And who, pray tell, is the other one?

[Hazuki]

Shamus Young. Not an idol in the same way, but still.

Also, relevant to the article; one of my moms is Russian. I'm suddenly reminded of how proud I am of her. :3

[Xodion]

Shamus Young. Not an idol in the same way, but still.

Shamus is a legend :3 (as is Stephen Fry). The gaming community needs more like him.

[Sabeki]

My internet is finally fixed, so I can actually communicate with you lovely people on a regular basis. :D

I just git time off, so I'm in the same boat as you! Who'd a thunk?

In other news, my Dad just got married! Again!

Towards Hazuki, Who's Stephen Fry? I feel like I should know him, but whenever I try to find out, my mind just says "Oh, it's that guy from Futurama!":smallbiggrin:

[TaiLiu]

In other news, my Dad just got married! Again!

Hooray! How was the marriage?

[Sabeki]

It was short and sweet! It took maybe 15 minutes for the ceremony, than we had dinner, than my new brothers and I slept at my new grandparents house after copious amounts of Minecraft.

[TaiLiu]

It was short and sweet! It took maybe 15 minutes for the ceremony, than we had dinner, than my new brothers and I slept at my new grandparents house after copious amounts of Minecraft.
Nice! It sounds like a grand time!

[Sabeki]

It was fun. Even if one of them is a bit racist.

[hoverfrog]

An open letter from Stephen Fry to David Cameron and the International Olympic Committee. (http://www.stephenfry.com/2013/08/07/an-open-letter-to-david-cameron-and-the-ioc/single-page/#)Stephen Fry is an inspiration that will influence many mainstream groups into paying attention to the issues in Russia where they would otherwise remain indifferent. I sincerely doubt that the Winter Olympics will change venue but Fry's voice will resonate with many others that will hopefully lead to some kind of action to curb Putin's anti-gay fervour.


I'm sorry for the non sequitur.
People who have worked jobs for an extended period of time, what do you do when it seems like you can't be good enough and you are just costing your boss money without producing results?

My boss asked me to come back in again at 5 to work more (it being 2 now) and I haven't been able to do anything right. It is a temp job to help her finish a painting project, and I finished the ceiling, the part she hired me to do. The wall is probably going to need two coats, but I'm very bad at it. She's my friend, but she is better at all of this than I am by far and she keeps yelling at me for not being good enough. I am trying my hardest, and it's not up to either of our standards. Should I tell her I'm sorry but I can't keep working for her in this environment? I mean, it's probably two days (of two weeks of work) left before she finishes her part whether or not I help. I just really want some advice or something here. I feel so helpless.As I say to everybody at work who complains of stress and overwork: do the best you can in the time you have available. You can't do any more and if the work doesn't get done then the bosses need to hire more people or better skilled people. It says much about you that you want to do a better job but if you haven't got the skills then there's nothing you can do except gain those skills for next time.

A secret from my temping days though is to do all the fiddly edging stuff first on a big paint job and then the large areas. It looks like you won't finish on time but if you do the edging then going over the walls with a roller is really quick. Also there are unskilled things that make the skilled person's job that much faster. Laying out splash sheets, filling paint trays, making cups of tea for breaks, opening and closing windows to air, moving furniture, holding ladders, cleaning brushes, etc all take time away from the skilled person's area of expertise. If you can't be helpful in the way your boss wants then be helpful in the way that will help your boss.

[Kindablue]

Towards Hazuki, Who's Stephen Fry? I feel like I should know him, but whenever I try to find out, my mind just says "Oh, it's that guy from Futurama!":smallbiggrin:

Stephen Fry is a very funny comedian (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8U7GKdbiA2c&feature=related) and writer known for his eloquence and talent with words, who, dispite being wracked by sometimes crippling bipolar depression, produces work with a rare warmth and honesty. I've heard him repeat Shakespeare when talking of Oscar Wilde, "not only witty in [himself], but the cause that wit is in other men," and I think the same fits wonderfully with Fry.

If you're going to have an idol, I can't think of many better.

[Castaras]

He's also exceedingly gay. :smallbiggrin:

He's our wonderful national treasure of Britain.

[Raineh Daze]

He's our wonderful national treasure of Britain.

I don't think the 'of Britain' bit was necessary. :p

[hoverfrog]

I don't think the 'of Britain' bit was necessary. :pOh, let us keep him. We'll make sure that he's on the telly enough to satisfy everyone.

[Raineh Daze]

Oh, let us keep him. We'll make sure that he's on the telly enough to satisfy everyone.

If he's already a national treasure, why clarify that it's Britain? XD

I see we've left Northern Ireland out, too.

[Eldest]

If he's already a national treasure, why clarify that it's Britain? XD

I see we've left Northern Ireland out, too.

Some people are silly and don't know somebody's nationality nor have looked it up? (ME!)

[Zorg]

Hit a really low point, cut my wrist up pretty bad. Not going to die from it, more ashamed than anything.

Feeling so alone, and can't see how anyone could ever love me. And I'm terrified of coming out to my daughter because it feels like she's the only thing that stops me doing a more thorough job of it.

[Mina Kobold]

Hit a really low point, cut my wrist up pretty bad. Not going to die from it, more ashamed than anything.

Feeling so alone, and can't see how anyone could ever love me. And I'm terrified of coming out to my daughter because it feels like she's the only thing that stops me doing a more thorough job of it.

*All hugs possible*

I know it doesn't say much, and it hurts that I am too far away to be of much help, but I do love you. You are fun, smart, inspiring and all kinds of amazing. I can't see why your daughter wouldn't love that either, but we'll be here if there is anything you need. :smallsmile:

There is no need to feel ashamed for hitting a low point, only to hope that things will soon be much brighter. You are far too nice and awesome to not have people love you.

[Lentrax]

~unhappies~

Zorg, honey, I don't know why this melancholy funk has been going around to everyone lately, but I am here.

In my seat. In America.

I know, not very helpful, but you know what is?

Surprise hugs!

http://www.scenicreflections.com/files/Surprise_Hug_Wallpaper_xh8al.jpg

And for the record, I may be in America, I may not be able to give you this surprise hug in person, but I love you, sweetie.

Heck, I adore you, worship you.

And if I could, I would stalk, no wait, follow you every, no still not right... stand outside your window at, hmm... still not right...

I would love you.

Because you are a person worth loving.

[The Succubus]

I agree with Lentrax's sentiments. I'm also clogging up your PM box again.

[golentan]

Hit a really low point, cut my wrist up pretty bad. Not going to die from it, more ashamed than anything.

Feeling so alone, and can't see how anyone could ever love me. And I'm terrified of coming out to my daughter because it feels like she's the only thing that stops me doing a more thorough job of it.

ALL OF THE HUGS~!

Please don't do anything rash. I know your daughter would miss you, I would miss you, and lots of people love you. You are a good and loveable person, even if you are a human. If you want to talk about it, my PM's open.

[turkishproverb]

Hit a really low point, cut my wrist up pretty bad. Not going to die from it, more ashamed than anything.

Feeling so alone, and can't see how anyone could ever love me. And I'm terrified of coming out to my daughter because it feels like she's the only thing that stops me doing a more thorough job of it.

*hugs*

Look, I don't even know where to start. I'm deeply in the closet to all the family i have, and don't know how i'd ever consider coming out to them. But I don't have kids, and that adds another layer to things i can scarcely think about.

Just know we'd miss you, and as others have said, My PM box is open should you need it.

[Reality Glitch]

Hit a really low point, cut my wrist up pretty bad. Not going to die from it, more ashamed than anything.

Feeling so alone, and can't see how anyone could ever love me. And I'm terrified of coming out to my daughter because it feels like she's the only thing that stops me doing a more thorough job of it.I never understood why people would want to harm themselves when they feel blue, nevertheless, I sympathize w/ the nobody-likes-who-I-am routine and am confident that your own flesh and blood will understand, or at least accept and tolerate.

[Lentrax]

On Zorg:


She's a fox. In French, she would be called "la renarde" and she would be hunted with only her cunning to protect her.


*hugs, so many hugs*

PM me if you need anything anything, love.

[Reality Glitch]

Same here, if you need to talk,
I'm listening.

[Fyermind]

Hit a really low point, cut my wrist up pretty bad. Not going to die from it, more ashamed than anything.

Feeling so alone, and can't see how anyone could ever love me. And I'm terrified of coming out to my daughter because it feels like she's the only thing that stops me doing a more thorough job of it.

I am sorry it hurts. I am so proud of you though because you told us. It can be so hard to tell people. Please get it properly bandaged and treated and stuff. I would be sad if you couldn't type. Don't do anything else that keeps you from typing either okay?

You are surrounded by people who love you.

[TaiLiu]

It was fun. Even if one of them is a bit racist.
Ah. That is good, I suppose.

Hit a really low point, cut my wrist up pretty bad. Not going to die from it, more ashamed than anything.

Feeling so alone, and can't see how anyone could ever love me. And I'm terrified of coming out to my daughter because it feels like she's the only thing that stops me doing a more thorough job of it.
My condolences, comrade. Do remember, though, that we love you, as well as your daughter and family.

Hug?

[KenderWizard]

Oh, I went off this site (http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/0/E11CED5FB86D178ACA257AA30014C059?opendocument) (2011-12 census data), and I think I mentally rounded 161.8 cm down to 161 instead of up to 162.

Ah, I see. I guess we should each just start measuring the women around us and come up with our own averages? :smalltongue::smalltongue:


Hit a really low point, cut my wrist up pretty bad. Not going to die from it, more ashamed than anything.

Feeling so alone, and can't see how anyone could ever love me. And I'm terrified of coming out to my daughter because it feels like she's the only thing that stops me doing a more thorough job of it.

You're alright. Keep on top of it. What age is she?

[Morcleon]

Hit a really low point, cut my wrist up pretty bad. Not going to die from it, more ashamed than anything.

Feeling so alone, and can't see how anyone could ever love me. And I'm terrified of coming out to my daughter because it feels like she's the only thing that stops me doing a more thorough job of it.

Well, we all love you, so you certainly aren't alone. Please try to see the good in the world. And don't hurt yourself! *hugs*

~Setsuna~

[Lauren]

Hit a really low point, cut my wrist up pretty bad. Not going to die from it, more ashamed than anything.

Feeling so alone, and can't see how anyone could ever love me. And I'm terrified of coming out to my daughter because it feels like she's the only thing that stops me doing a more thorough job of it.

If we are ever in the same state, which is not an unreasonable thought, we're hanging out and I'm giving you hugs. In the meantime, *hugs*, please look after yourself, and know that we care.


Ah, I see. I guess we should each just start measuring the women around us and come up with our own averages? :smalltongue::smalltongue:

Oh, absolutely! I'm probably below average given my genetics anyway; my dad and cousins and brother are all over six foot.

[SiuiS]

I don't think the 'of Britain' bit was necessary. :p

Sure it was! He's not our national treasure, after all.


Hit a really low point, cut my wrist up pretty bad. Not going to die from it, more ashamed than anything.

Feeling so alone, and can't see how anyone could ever love me. And I'm terrified of coming out to my daughter because it feels like she's the only thing that stops me doing a more thorough job of it.

Wow. Well, I'm here for you luv. I don't know much what to say; you're an adult, and you are smart, and you seem to be able to handle this better than anything I could suggest. But then, I also know how hard, how painful, it is to think clearly through this kind of emotional caul. My email is open if you care for more detail? W1z4rdp0ny@l1v3, but with no numbers at all and a dotcom at the end (caution in case of spambots, you understand).

You'll be fine. I think your daughter wil be able to handle it, if not immediately then with time. This is just like any other parenting hurdle. You are showing her basic human respect for others. You've done a bang up job so far and you'll continue to do so.

You are loved, whatever choice you make.


Ah, I see. I guess we should each just start measuring the women around us and come up with our own averages? :smalltongue::smalltongue:


Snerk.



You're alright. Keep on top of it. What age is she?

I admire that you've consistently had the ovaries to handle with aplomb things i chicken out of. I owe you a hug, someday.


If we are ever in the same state, which is not an unreasonable thought, we're hanging out and I'm giving you hugs. In the meantime, *hugs*, please look after yourself, and know that we care.

"What? No, honey, Zorg doesn't live in ameri— oh, neither do y— Australia has states?!"

[Absol197]

...

...

I finally got my letter!!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: You have no idea how happy I am! I faxed it in to my endo on my lunch break Friday. She apparently doesn't work on Fridays (found that out when I called to confirm that they got it), but hopefully she'll review it on Monday and send out the prescription...just a few...more...days...

And on top of that, it seems like everybody at my work was perfectly fine after the coming out process. My manager even said it had been discussed, and I can even use the ladies' room! Although I will admit it still makes me nervous, simply because I worry that I'm going to be making other people uncomfortable.


Hit a really low point, cut my wrist up pretty bad. Not going to die from it, more ashamed than anything.

Feeling so alone, and can't see how anyone could ever love me. And I'm terrified of coming out to my daughter because it feels like she's the only thing that stops me doing a more thorough job of it.

:eek::frown::frown::eek:
Oh, no, Zorg! I hope you're okay! I know you don't know me very well, but please, don't hurt yourself. I care about you very deeply, and I don't want to lose you :smallfrown: ...


~Phoenix~

[TaiLiu]

...

...

I finally got my letter!!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: You have no idea how happy I am! I faxed it in to my endo on my lunch break Friday. She apparently doesn't work on Fridays (found that out when I called to confirm that they got it), but hopefully she'll review it on Monday and send out the prescription...just a few...more...days...

And on top of that, it seems like everybody at my work was perfectly fine after the coming out process. My manager even said it had been discussed, and I can even use the ladies' room! Although I will admit it still makes me nervous, simply because I worry that I'm going to be making other people uncomfortable.
Hooray! This is excellent news!

[Moonwolf727]

...

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I finally got my letter!!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: You have no idea how happy I am! I faxed it in to my endo on my lunch break Friday. She apparently doesn't work on Fridays (found that out when I called to confirm that they got it), but hopefully she'll review it on Monday and send out the prescription...just a few...more...days...

And on top of that, it seems like everybody at my work was perfectly fine after the coming out process. My manager even said it had been discussed, and I can even use the ladies' room! Although I will admit it still makes me nervous, simply because I worry that I'm going to be making other people uncomfortable.

Thats great! Congratulations on it finally happening. :smallsmile:

[Absol197]

:smallfrown:

This is just horrible...
[trigger warning: severe homophobia/transphobia]
http://news.yahoo.com/jamaica-transgender-teen-murdered-mob-070446416.html

The complete misgendering only makes it worse, at least to me.


~Phoenix~

[golentan]

:smallfrown:

This is just horrible...
[trigger warning: severe homophobia/transphobia]
http://news.yahoo.com/jamaica-transgender-teen-murdered-mob-070446416.html

The complete misgendering only makes it worse, at least to me.


~Phoenix~

I saw that. It made me very sad. :smallfrown:

[TaiLiu]

I saw that. It made me very sad. :smallfrown:
Indeed. Both the article and the event are saddening.

[Moonwolf727]

:smallfrown:

This is just horrible...
[trigger warning: severe homophobia/transphobia]
http://news.yahoo.com/jamaica-transgender-teen-murdered-mob-070446416.html

The complete misgendering only makes it worse, at least to me.


~Phoenix~

............... there are no words for this :smalleek: :smallfrown:

[Morcleon]

...

...

I finally got my letter!!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: You have no idea how happy I am! I faxed it in to my endo on my lunch break Friday. She apparently doesn't work on Fridays (found that out when I called to confirm that they got it), but hopefully she'll review it on Monday and send out the prescription...just a few...more...days...

And on top of that, it seems like everybody at my work was perfectly fine after the coming out process. My manager even said it had been discussed, and I can even use the ladies' room! Although I will admit it still makes me nervous, simply because I worry that I'm going to be making other people uncomfortable.

That's awesome! I'm so happy for you. Didn't we always say that it would turn out well if you could fight through it? :smallsmile:

Also, you deliberately used the ellipses to build anticipation, didn't you? :smalltongue:

~Setsuna~


:smallfrown:

This is just horrible...
[trigger warning: severe homophobia/transphobia]
http://news.yahoo.com/jamaica-transgender-teen-murdered-mob-070446416.html

The complete misgendering only makes it worse, at least to me.


~Phoenix~

...this makes me sad... why does the world have to be this way...? :smallsigh::smallfrown:

~Setsuna~

[golentan]

...this makes me sad... why does the world have to be this way...? :smallsigh::smallfrown:

~Setsuna~

Because nobody at the planning committee would LISTEN to me! :smallsigh:

[Morcleon]

Because nobody at the planning committee would LISTEN to me! :smallsigh:

It's alright, hon. I'll go take over the world and let you lead the next planning committee. :3

~Setsuna~

[SiuiS]

...

...

I finally got my letter!!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: You have no idea how happy I am! I faxed it in to my endo on my lunch break Friday. She apparently doesn't work on Fridays (found that out when I called to confirm that they got it), but hopefully she'll review it on Monday and send out the prescription...just a few...more...days...

And on top of that, it seems like everybody at my work was perfectly fine after the coming out process. My manager even said it had been discussed, and I can even use the ladies' room! Although I will admit it still makes me nervous, simply because I worry that I'm going to be making other people uncomfortable.

About time! :)


Because nobody at the planning committee would LISTEN to me! :smallsigh:

And then half of 'me where distracted by the dip tray when it came to voting, yeah?

Man. Whoever was contracted for this planet left a bit too much up to emergence...

[Zorg]

Hi all, thanks for all the support. Doing better today. Talked to my daughter (who's almost 11) and we're currently sitting on the couch watching Muppet Treasure Island. So went well I guess, she didn't say much, but early days now.

[turkishproverb]

Hi all, thanks for all the support. Doing better today. Talked to my daughter (who's almost 11) and we're currently sitting on the couch watching Muppet Treasure Island. So went well I guess, she didn't say much, but early days now.



Well, good luck to you. Not sure how much more than that I can think to say.

Just remember, when you're a professional pirate...:smallsmile:

[golentan]

Hi all, thanks for all the support. Doing better today. Talked to my daughter (who's almost 11) and we're currently sitting on the couch watching Muppet Treasure Island. So went well I guess, she didn't say much, but early days now.

Yay! Have faith, plan for error, and work ceaselessly towards your goal and things tend to work out if you can outwait any ensuing complications, is my motto.

Come to think of it, that's probably not that helpful. :smallsigh: But it does seem to be true!

[Kittenwolf]

Hi all, thanks for all the support. Doing better today. Talked to my daughter (who's almost 11) and we're currently sitting on the couch watching Muppet Treasure Island. So went well I guess, she didn't say much, but early days now.

Excellent movie choice there :)
Glad to hear it went well, and fingers crossed she takes it with the same "Oh, ok, can I have a cookie?" attitude that I keep hearing about kids dealing with homosexuality have.


Well, good luck to you. Not sure how much more than that I can think to say.

Just remember, when you're a professional pirate...:smallsmile:

You don't have to wear a suit!

Shiver my timbers shiver my soul...

[Lentrax]

Hi all, thanks for all the support. Doing better today. Talked to my daughter (who's almost 11) and we're currently sitting on the couch watching Muppet Treasure Island. So went well I guess, she didn't say much, but early days now.

That's good! At least for now, and I am sure that it will get better. Just be prepared for some very weird questions.

What they will be, I don't know. I am not an 11 year old girl...

But best of wishes to you Zorg! And remember, we all love you.

[SiuiS]

Hi all, thanks for all the support. Doing better today. Talked to my daughter (who's almost 11) and we're currently sitting on the couch watching Muppet Treasure Island. So went well I guess, she didn't say much, but early days now.

Good stuff!



Shiver my timbers shiver my soul...

One weird D&D session and now I can never hear pirate talk without invariably associating it with kinks.

[The Succubus]

Hi all, thanks for all the support. Doing better today. Talked to my daughter (who's almost 11) and we're currently sitting on the couch watching Muppet Treasure Island. So went well I guess, she didn't say much, but early days now.

I'm really glad you're doing okay, hun. I admit I was really worried.

[Fyermind]

Good Luck Zorg. Happy to know you're doing better. But what are you doing on GitP when you're watching films with your daughter? :smalltongue: there are worlds to explore and play to be done.

[hoverfrog]

I see we've left Northern Ireland out, too.Northern Ireland is part of Britain, just as England, Scotland and Wales are part of Britain.

[Zorg]

Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Britain is the main island plus a few bits like the Hebrides and so on.

@ Phee - great news indeed :smallsmile:



And a really big thank you to everyone's kind words and thoughts yesterday. Luckily it seems it was messier than damaging, so shouldn't be any long lasting effects. Still hurting inside, but it's not so dark any more *hugs thread*

Also, quote from my daughter "It'll take a while to get used to, but I get used to a lot of things."
And we have a tradition of sorts where when driving her home we sing along to either Alestorm or Shiver My Timbers on the iPod :smallsmile:

[razovor]

Northern Ireland is part of Britain, just as England, Scotland and Wales are part of Britain.

Sort of. 'Britain' is used to mean either 'Great Britain' which doesn't contain Northern Ireland, or the 'United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland', which does.

[BayardSPSR]

Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Britain is the main island plus a few bits like the Hebrides and so on.

@ Phee - great news indeed :smallsmile:



And a really big thank you to everyone's kind words and thoughts yesterday. Luckily it seems it was messier than damaging, so shouldn't be any long lasting effects. Still hurting inside, but it's not so dark any more *hugs thread*

Also, quote from my daughter "It'll take a while to get used to, but I get used to a lot of things."
And we have a tradition of sorts where when driving her home we sing along to either Alestorm or Shiver My Timbers on the iPod :smallsmile:

I'm really happy for you!

Also, your daughter sounds awesome.

[hoverfrog]

We can be inclusive about Northern Ireland. You're Brits as far as I'm concerned.

[Castaras]

And America and other such colonies are just lost and will one day come back to the loving embrace of the empire, therefore we can call them brits too! :smallbiggrin: :smallbiggrin: :smalltongue:

[hoverfrog]

And America and other such colonies are just lost and will one day come back to the loving embrace of the empire, therefore we can call them brits too! :smallbiggrin: :smallbiggrin: :smalltongue:No. Just...no.

[The Succubus]

And America and other such colonies are just lost and will one day come back to the loving embrace of the empire, therefore we can call them brits too! :smallbiggrin: :smallbiggrin: :smalltongue:

I don't know why but upon reading this, I had the most curious mental image...

An American man is walking through Central Park under a starry sky. He steps out from under the shade of the trees and the light of the full moon falls upon him. He collapses to the floor, a strange feeling gripping him. His immaculate teeth become distorted. The cap on his head turns into a bowler hat and a monocle leaps from out of nowhere and fastens itself to his right eye. His aggression becomes more of a polite insistence and he feels an unquenchable lust for a dark liquid, with sugar and milk.

He is the WereBrit.

[SiuiS]

No. Just...no.

Aye. You're more likely to be our 53rd state than anything. :smallwink:

[Mina Kobold]

And a really big thank you to everyone's kind words and thoughts yesterday. Luckily it seems it was messier than damaging, so shouldn't be any long lasting effects. Still hurting inside, but it's not so dark any more *hugs thread*

Also, quote from my daughter "It'll take a while to get used to, but I get used to a lot of things."
And we have a tradition of sorts where when driving her home we sing along to either Alestorm or Shiver My Timbers on the iPod :smallsmile:

Sounds like very good news, congrats on having an awesome daughter. ^_^

[Lentrax]

And we have a tradition of sorts where when driving her home we sing along to either Alestorm or Shiver My Timbers on the iPod :smallsmile:

Best. Tradition. Ever.

[Hazuki]

And America and other such colonies are just lost and will one day come back to the loving embrace of the empire, therefore we can call them brits too! :smallbiggrin: :smallbiggrin: :smalltongue:


Aye. You're more likely to be our 53rd state than anything. :smallwink:Look upon your true future!

http://what-if.xkcd.com/imgs/a/53/drain_nl.png

[Lentrax]

Pfft.

I moved to the New Netherlands ages ago... :smalltongue:

[Lady Serpentine]

Look upon your true future!

http://what-if.xkcd.com/imgs/a/53/drain_nl.png

Heh, nice~ :smallbiggrin:

[Reality Glitch]

Look upon your true future!

http://what-if.xkcd.com/imgs/a/53/drain_nl.pngActually Canada becomes North Montana, the British Isles become Air Strip One, and people vacation in the Antarctic Amazon.

[Irish Musician]

:smallfrown:

This is just horrible...
[trigger warning: severe homophobia/transphobia]
http://news.yahoo.com/jamaica-transgender-teen-murdered-mob-070446416.html

The complete misgendering only makes it worse, at least to me.


~Phoenix~
First, Phee, so excited for you about your letter and the fact that things seems to be moving in the right direction.

This article is so sad and just makes my heart hurt so much. :smallfrown:

weird D&D session and now I can never hear pirate talk without invariably associating it with kinks.
Funn how many sessions like this make me associate random crap with kinks now :smalltongue:

Hi all, thanks for all the support. Doing better today. Talked to my daughter (who's almost 11) and we're currently sitting on the couch watching Muppet Treasure Island. So went well I guess, she didn't say much, but early days now.


And a really big thank you to everyone's kind words and thoughts yesterday. Luckily it seems it was messier than damaging, so shouldn't be any long lasting effects. Still hurting inside, but it's not so dark any more *hugs thread*

Also, quote from my daughter "It'll take a while to get used to, but I get used to a lot of things."
And we have a tradition of sorts where when driving her home we sing along to either Alestorm or Shiver My Timbers on the iPod :smallsmile:
So, so, so, so, so, so, so very glad that you are doing better Zorg, I too was greatly worried. You aren't allowed to scare us like that again. We took a vote...:smallwink: But seriously, we are always here if you need us!

I also love children's reactions to things like this. "Huh, well that is kinda weird but ok. So what's for dinner?!"...is usually the reaction I see from children when they are told about LGBTA people. The world could really learn from their innocence and their ability to accept people for who they are(generally speaking). I just wish adults could get all the crap out of their heads and let go of the feeling that they have to "protect" something and that the LGBTA community will somehow destroy their little bubble if they accept the community as actual people, and not just "weirdos." But, very glad that she seems to not think its a big deal at all, the best reaction I think that could have happened!

I love you all, hugs and cookies for the thread!

~Matthew~

[Skeppio]

Also, quote from my daughter "It'll take a while to get used to, but I get used to a lot of things."
And we have a tradition of sorts where when driving her home we sing along to either Alestorm or Shiver My Timbers on the iPod :smallsmile:

Aww, sometimes kids can be so nice. :smallsmile:

[hoverfrog]

I don't know why but upon reading this, I had the most curious mental image...

An American man is walking through Central Park under a starry sky. He steps out from under the shade of the trees and the light of the full moon falls upon him. He collapses to the floor, a strange feeling gripping him. His immaculate teeth become distorted. The cap on his head turns into a bowler hat and a monocle leaps from out of nowhere and fastens itself to his right eye. His aggression becomes more of a polite insistence and he feels an unquenchable lust for a dark liquid, with sugar and milk.

He is the WereBrit.That's awesome.

[Jormengand]

Hit a really low point, cut my wrist up pretty bad. Not going to die from it, more ashamed than anything.

Feeling so alone, and can't see how anyone could ever love me. And I'm terrified of coming out to my daughter because it feels like she's the only thing that stops me doing a more thorough job of it.I saw your later posts saying that all was well, but I wanted to say this: Everyone here would be sad if you kept hurting yourself. Hugs are available on request.


...this makes me sad... why does the world have to be this way...? :smallsigh::smallfrown:

A wise man once said "Because people are stupid." Then, I kept saying it.

[Irish Musician]

a dark liquid, with sugar and milk.[/I]
This reminds me of a song lyric I know.

"It's a mystery to me, why some people drink the tea. It's just another bitter form of rain..."
:smallsmile:

You might guess that is it about beer
:smallwink:

M

[golentan]

I want someone to cuddle. :smallfrown:

[Lentrax]

I want someone to cuddle. :smallfrown:

Would I do, Golly?

[golentan]

Would I do, Golly?

Can you physically come cuddle with me?

[Lentrax]

Unless you live in a reasonable distance of South Dakota, no.

Sorry.

:smallfrown:

[golentan]

:smallsigh: Well, life can be like that... Thank you, though.

[Lentrax]

:smallsigh: Well, life can be like that... Thank you, though.

Well, since I didnt take into account, you know, internet distances or anything, I am sorry.

Anything else I can do?

[KenderWizard]

I admire that you've consistently had the ovaries to handle with aplomb things i chicken out of. I owe you a hug, someday.


I assume you're talking to Zorg here? Or do I impress you with my ability to ask people questions?


...

...

I finally got my letter!!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: You have no idea how happy I am! I faxed it in to my endo on my lunch break Friday. She apparently doesn't work on Fridays (found that out when I called to confirm that they got it), but hopefully she'll review it on Monday and send out the prescription...just a few...more...days...

And on top of that, it seems like everybody at my work was perfectly fine after the coming out process. My manager even said it had been discussed, and I can even use the ladies' room! Although I will admit it still makes me nervous, simply because I worry that I'm going to be making other people uncomfortable.


I love it when a plan comes together! :smallbiggrin:


Hi all, thanks for all the support. Doing better today. Talked to my daughter (who's almost 11) and we're currently sitting on the couch watching Muppet Treasure Island. So went well I guess, she didn't say much, but early days now.

I'm so pleased to hear that! I think 10/11 is a good age to get this kind of thing; old enough to understand and young enough to accept. Older people can be very unaccepting, and I know my friend (who is turning 5 soon) completely accepts her mother's transgender friend but doesn't completely understand it yet.

[Morcleon]

And a really big thank you to everyone's kind words and thoughts yesterday. Luckily it seems it was messier than damaging, so shouldn't be any long lasting effects. Still hurting inside, but it's not so dark any more *hugs thread*

Also, quote from my daughter "It'll take a while to get used to, but I get used to a lot of things."
And we have a tradition of sorts where when driving her home we sing along to either Alestorm or Shiver My Timbers on the iPod :smallsmile:

That's great! *hugs back* :smallbiggrin:

~Setsuna~


A wise man once said "Because people are stupid." Then, I kept saying it.

This is true... although what's that last bit supposed to mean? :smallconfused:

~Setsuna~

[TaiLiu]

Also, quote from my daughter "It'll take a while to get used to, but I get used to a lot of things."
That is great!

I want someone to cuddle. :smallfrown:
My condolences, comrade. We'll try to perfect the internet cuddle machine as quickly as possible!

[Jormengand]

I want someone to cuddle. :smallfrown:

Unfortunately, I cannot give physical hugs. Would you like moral support instead?


This is true... although what's that last bit supposed to mean? :smallconfused:A wise man once said it, and then I kept saying it after the wise man said it. Is what I meant.

[TaiLiu]

A wise man once said it, and then I kept saying it after the wise man said it. Is what I meant.
Hm. Would that make you the wise man?

[Jormengand]

Hm. Would that make you the wise man?

No, the wise man said it first. Then, afterwards, I said it lots.

[TaiLiu]

No, the wise man said it first. Then, afterwards, I said it lots.
Indeed. Does saying that make you wiser?

[Jormengand]

Indeed. Does saying that make you wiser?

Probably not, but it doesn't make it any less true either.

[Heliomance]

Aye. You're more likely to be our 53rd state than anything. :smallwink:

Upstart colonists >_>
:P

[Lauren]

...

...

I finally got my letter!!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: You have no idea how happy I am! I faxed it in to my endo on my lunch break Friday. She apparently doesn't work on Fridays (found that out when I called to confirm that they got it), but hopefully she'll review it on Monday and send out the prescription...just a few...more...days...

And on top of that, it seems like everybody at my work was perfectly fine after the coming out process. My manager even said it had been discussed, and I can even use the ladies' room! Although I will admit it still makes me nervous, simply because I worry that I'm going to be making other people uncomfortable.


Yay Phee! So happy for you!


Hi all, thanks for all the support. Doing better today. Talked to my daughter (who's almost 11) and we're currently sitting on the couch watching Muppet Treasure Island. So went well I guess, she didn't say much, but early days now.

Huzzah! More hugs and cheesecake are available if needed.


I don't know why but upon reading this, I had the most curious mental image...

An American man is walking through Central Park under a starry sky. He steps out from under the shade of the trees and the light of the full moon falls upon him. He collapses to the floor, a strange feeling gripping him. His immaculate teeth become distorted. The cap on his head turns into a bowler hat and a monocle leaps from out of nowhere and fastens itself to his right eye. His aggression becomes more of a polite insistence and he feels an unquenchable lust for a dark liquid, with sugar and milk.

He is the WereBrit.

You are amazing :smallbiggrin:

[turkishproverb]

Congrats Absol197

Congrats Zorg


I want someone to cuddle. :smallfrown:

If you ever get to the American south, I might take you up on that. Though I might say we should try dinner first. I've been getting lonely a lot lately.

In the meantime, *moral support internet hug*

[Fyermind]

Anyone in upstate New york who can provide their own transportation is welcome to hugs, food, music, gaming, and dancing in their favorite combinations and balance. Golly, cuddles are available upon request.

I will also go anywhere with a west coast swing dance scene if someone finds me a job. I'll come in four months when my dance class ends.

Also Zorg, I am so happy to hear that you told your daughter and that she took it like only a child (and so few adults) can. When I told my ex, and she took it similarly I was stunned and so relieved.
Spoiled for possibly triggerish?
After my mother had told me that I was still hetero in her eyes as long as I was dating girls so it was "ok"


Also cookies for everyone since I found you guys on the 4th I am very grateful.
stuff about me nobody really needs to know that I still feel like sharing. It's not all pretty
I've been surviving some of the worst depression I've had in the past six years of struggle. It's basically been a war since puberty. With the combination of a lack of decent guys apart from my father in my life and a lot of very anti-LGTB guys I went to school with who among other things stoned me during gym class for being silent during day of silence. At this time I was calling myself an ally. I can still count on one hand the number of people who I've told I'm not just joking around when I call a guy hot or say I'd sleep with him. I'm rust rambling here. But thank you. This thread has helped me feel a little less alone.

[Selpharia]

Zorg, I'm so glad that your daughter reacted well! And it's also good to hear that you're doing better. *Cuddles* for golly and anyone else who wants or needs them.

I've been kind of up and down recently. Like I managed to get up the courage to present on my birthday, despite the presence of a bunch of my less accepting relatives, but on the same day I was harshly reminded that I still can't wear a dress properly because my body is shaped all wrong, and the hormones haven't really done a lot for my chest yet. And being out felt so good that I kind of just want to say "screw it" and go full time, but I'm graduating in a few months and I don't want to screw it up and then have to worry about being able to find a job if I'm out as trans, let alone one that pays enough that I could start saving up for surgeries.

Mrrrrr.

~Laura

[celtois]

I hope this isn't too close to politics. But it is very relevant to this thread.

*Sigh*

The olympics (http://instinctmagazine.com/post/olympic-committee-confirms-it-will-punish-athletes-who-support-lgbt-rights-russia) :smallfrown:

[golentan]

Hope we don't get locked, but I have to get this off my chest. I realize that almost everything is in some way political, because politics is basically just the different ways we negotiate living in a world with other people. But it drives me crazy when someone stomps on someone's foot and then accuses the stompee of being political for asking them to kindly remove their boots from the injured toes, and that's the image that keeps coming to mind with this whole chain of events.

[Morcleon]

Also cookies for everyone since I found you guys on the 4th I am very grateful.
stuff about me nobody really needs to know that I still feel like sharing. It's not all pretty
I've been surviving some of the worst depression I've had in the past six years of struggle. It's basically been a war since puberty. With the combination of a lack of decent guys apart from my father in my life and a lot of very anti-LGTB guys I went to school with who among other things stoned me during gym class for being silent during day of silence. At this time I was calling myself an ally. I can still count on one hand the number of people who I've told I'm not just joking around when I call a guy hot or say I'd sleep with him. I'm rust rambling here. But thank you. This thread has helped me feel a little less alone.


*gives you hugs* You're a very brave person for fighting though all that. :smallbiggrin:

~Setsuna~


Hope we don't get locked, but I have to get this off my chest. I realize that almost everything is in some way political, because politics is basically just the different ways we negotiate living in a world with other people. But it drives me crazy when someone stomps on someone's foot and then accuses the stompee of being political for asking them to kindly remove their boots from the injured toes, and that's the image that keeps coming to mind with this whole chain of events.

I know... this is going to be a defining moment in human rights. Let's just hope that, as a whole, we make the right decision. :smallsmile:

~Setsuna~

[Eldest]

I hope this isn't too close to politics. But it is very relevant to this thread.

*Sigh*

The olympics (http://instinctmagazine.com/post/olympic-committee-confirms-it-will-punish-athletes-who-support-lgbt-rights-russia) :smallfrown:

I shoulda gone to bed... :smallfrown:

[SiuiS]

Look upon your true future!

http://what-if.xkcd.com/imgs/a/53/drain_nl.png

Hmm. I could believe it.


:smallsigh: Well, life can be like that... Thank you, though.

Sorry, hon. :smallfrown:

I think Braz and I (well, and Po'DL) are closest to your physical location, but I think spontaneous arrival and ensuing politics with my filly would be more bane than boon...


I assume you're talking to Zorg here? Or do I impress you with my ability to ask people questions?

No, to you! Your response is what I wanted to say, but worried about howdo say without seeming mean. You do that a lot. It's good to know that one can have an opinion viewed as dissenting without being mean. It shows me that my word choice is not often optimal.


Upstart colonists >_>

Yeah. You wouldn't believe our revisionist history either; kids think that we ran away from you guys to make our own country on purpose! And by the time we get to the whole "war of separation" deal, that sank in enough that one doesn't notice the obvious issues between "allowed to leave" and "war for independence".

Our education system is a mess...


Hope we don't get locked, but I have to get this off my chest. I realize that almost everything is in some way political, because politics is basically just the different ways we negotiate living in a world with other people. But it drives me crazy when someone stomps on someone's foot and then accuses the stompee of being political for asking them to kindly remove their boots from the injured toes, and that's the image that keeps coming to mind with this whole chain of events.

Hmm... Yeah. I suppose I see where that's coming from.


Hasn't... Hasn't the Olympics been a repeated font of political and social change? And yet there's a statute against that? How bizarre.

[Socratov]

Look upon your true future!

http://what-if.xkcd.com/imgs/a/53/drain_nl.png

Oh damn, my plans have been found out! Who leaked my plans of world dutchification?

[razovor]

Oh damn, my plans have been found out! Who leaked my plans of world dutchification?

Randall Munroe.

http://what-if.xkcd.com/53/

[hoverfrog]

I hope this isn't too close to politics. But it is very relevant to this thread.

*Sigh*

The olympics (http://instinctmagazine.com/post/olympic-committee-confirms-it-will-punish-athletes-who-support-lgbt-rights-russia) :smallfrown:Any idea which of the athletes who are set to attend are out of the closet LGB or publicly avowed allies? Their very presence would seem to be a political statement in Russia whether they intend it or not.
:smallfurious:

[The Succubus]

You know what I'd love to see? Two athletes kissing each other on the podium - a proper kiss. That would say more than any amount of flag waving or rainbow banners. :smallredface:

[Jormengand]

You know what I'd love to see? Two athletes kissing each other on the podium - a proper kiss. That would say more than any amount of flag waving or rainbow banners. :smallredface:

So much this.

On a completely unrelated note, random me stuff. Minor TW for mention of homophobia, transphobia.
So, recently I'm really realising how uncomfortable I feel in a male body. The joke on me, of course, is that I would feel equally uncomfortable in a female body. The punchline is that I'd feel plain weird in a neutered one. So yeah, genderless and it sucks. Yay! :smallsigh:

I'm not sure whether to say anything about it to family and other people I know or not. To be honest, it doesn't change what they end up having to do (I don't really care which pronouns you use, call me she or even it all day and I'm not sure I'll be able to give a damn) so they don't need to know, but I hate keeping everything in me.

There's also the chance of them taking it badly. I get the feeling that I'll end up having a shockingly similar conversation to the one about being bisexual...

"Yeah, I get that you can like the same sex, but how can you like BOTH?"
Swiftly becoming...
"Yeah, I get that you can be the opposite gender, but how can you be NEITHER?"

Or, they'll just straight-up be stupid about it. There's probably a lot more ignorance of trans issues than LGB issues (as in, four years ago I knew the latter existed. A year ago, I learned of the former) which could mean less acceptance - although I suppose it could also mean more.

God damn it reality, why did you have to keep throwing random stuff at me?

The worst thing being, Reality can't really be attacked so I can't use Smite Stupid on it.

[Urist]

You know what I'd love to see? Two athletes kissing each other on the podium - a proper kiss. That would say more than any amount of flag waving or rainbow banners. :smallredface:

I'd rather not see them throw their lives away like that, honestly.

Hi thread! Haven't checked in in a long time, stuff has been really rough emotionally. Congratulations/hugs to all who need them, however! :smallsmile:

So, my life recently:(Trigger Warning:Biphobia, Homophobia, mental anguish, discussion of rape/anti-LGBT violence, severe misogyny)

So, I was working at a summer camp this year as a cabin counselor and lifeguard. This camp, an all-boys YMCA camp I've been attending since I was nine, has always been like a second home to me. However, this year, being closer to senior staff, I noticed an immense amount of homophobia from them, as from my colleagues among the cabin staff. Luckily, I wasn't out at camp, but the number of times they made derogatory comments about LGBT people made me incredibaly uncomfortable. I heard that LGBT people shouldn't be working at summer camps because they would rape the children and make them gay, i heard suggestions that lesbians at our sister camp "weren't really gay" and that they should be re-introduced to men to "fix" them, and apparently all LGBT people deserve to be locked up in asylums, or deported to islands in the Pacific. Also, Russia apparently has the right idea.

So, as you can imagine, this environment was rather toxic. Combined with my already existing anxiety/emotional issues, I was a wreck. Fine around the kids, but at night I essentially cried myself to sleep every night. When we had candlelight ceremonies, I burned myself with the candles, and purposefully dropped rocks or other things on my feet at the waterfront as methods of self-harm. I'm lucky my girlfriend, who was working at our sister camp, was here for me; it could have been a lot worse. I am getting better, although my mother threatens to make it worse with her controlling behavior.


Had to get that off my chest. Sorry folks...

[Jormengand]

I'd rather not see them throw their lives away like that, honestly.

Hi thread! Haven't checked in in a long time, stuff has been really rough emotionally. Congratulations/hugs to all who need them, however! :smallsmile:

So, my life recently:(Trigger Warning:Biphobia, Homophobia, mental anguish, discussion of rape/anti-LGBT violence, severe misogyny)

So, I was working at a summer camp this year as a cabin counselor and lifeguard. This camp, an all-boys YMCA camp I've been attending since I was nine, has always been like a second home to me. However, this year, being closer to senior staff, I noticed an immense amount of homophobia from them, as from my colleagues among the cabin staff. Luckily, I wasn't out at camp, but the number of times they made derogatory comments about LGBT people made me incredibaly uncomfortable. I heard that LGBT people shouldn't be working at summer camps because they would rape the children and make them gay, i heard suggestions that lesbians at our sister camp "weren't really gay" and that they should be re-introduced to men to "fix" them, and apparently all LGBT people deserve to be locked up in asylums, or deported to islands in the Pacific. Also, Russia apparently has the right idea.

So, as you can imagine, this environment was rather toxic. Combined with my already existing anxiety/emotional issues, I was a wreck. Fine around the kids, but at night I essentially cried myself to sleep every night. When we had candlelight ceremonies, I burned myself with the candles, and purposefully dropped rocks or other things on my feet at the waterfront as methods of self-harm. I'm lucky my girlfriend, who was working at our sister camp, was here for me; it could have been a lot worse. I am getting better, although my mother threatens to make it worse with her controlling behavior.


Had to get that off my chest. Sorry folks...

Why do people even...

No, I'm the one who should have the answer to that. (w.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15806081&postcount=208) :smallsigh: I can offer you hugs, and we can go down the rabbit hole together.

[Miraqariftsky]

Urist?
Really sorry to hear that, friend.

Although things were bleak
Love and light and liberty will find a way
Rest easy, don't worry
You have my shoulder beside you,
Turn from the night, the sun has risen, turn from the dark, the silvern lights are here...
! as well.

[hoverfrog]

So, I was working at a summer camp this year as a cabin counselor and lifeguard. This camp, an all-boys YMCA camp I've been attending since I was nine, has always been like a second home to me. However, this year, being closer to senior staff, I noticed an immense amount of homophobia from them, as from my colleagues among the cabin staff. Luckily, I wasn't out at camp, but the number of times they made derogatory comments about LGBT people made me incredibaly uncomfortable. I heard that LGBT people shouldn't be working at summer camps because they would rape the children and make them gay, i heard suggestions that lesbians at our sister camp "weren't really gay" and that they should be re-introduced to men to "fix" them, and apparently all LGBT people deserve to be locked up in asylums, or deported to islands in the Pacific. Also, Russia apparently has the right idea.

So, as you can imagine, this environment was rather toxic. Combined with my already existing anxiety/emotional issues, I was a wreck. Fine around the kids, but at night I essentially cried myself to sleep every night. When we had candlelight ceremonies, I burned myself with the candles, and purposefully dropped rocks or other things on my feet at the waterfront as methods of self-harm. I'm lucky my girlfriend, who was working at our sister camp, was here for me; it could have been a lot worse. I am getting better, although my mother threatens to make it worse with her controlling behavior.


Had to get that off my chest. Sorry folks...The real concern for me is the threat of rape. If there is any chance that they are remotely serious then this should be reported because that's seriously messed up. Also if you don't say anything and they do something then you'll never forgive yourself. Is there someone who will take your complaint confidentially?

[Jormengand]

The real concern for me is the threat of rape. If there is any chance that they are remotely serious then this should be reported because that's seriously messed up. Also if you don't say anything and they do something then you'll never forgive yourself. Is there someone who will take your complaint confidentially?

They seem to be assuming, from the text as written, that gay people would do the raping, of the small children, apparently, not that they were the ones who "needed" it. Though, the stuff about "Re-introducing" lesbians to men does sound minorly dodgy.

[Miraqariftsky]

@^^ and^ : INDEED. Some scum thattaways do need to be dealt with, lest more innocents be hurt.

[Durmatagno]

I'd rather not see them throw their lives away like that, honestly.

Hi thread! Haven't checked in in a long time, stuff has been really rough emotionally. Congratulations/hugs to all who need them, however! :smallsmile:

So, my life recently:(Trigger Warning:Biphobia, Homophobia, mental anguish, discussion of rape/anti-LGBT violence, severe misogyny)

So, I was working at a summer camp this year as a cabin counselor and lifeguard. This camp, an all-boys YMCA camp I've been attending since I was nine, has always been like a second home to me. However, this year, being closer to senior staff, I noticed an immense amount of homophobia from them, as from my colleagues among the cabin staff. Luckily, I wasn't out at camp, but the number of times they made derogatory comments about LGBT people made me incredibaly uncomfortable. I heard that LGBT people shouldn't be working at summer camps because they would rape the children and make them gay, i heard suggestions that lesbians at our sister camp "weren't really gay" and that they should be re-introduced to men to "fix" them, and apparently all LGBT people deserve to be locked up in asylums, or deported to islands in the Pacific. Also, Russia apparently has the right idea.

So, as you can imagine, this environment was rather toxic. Combined with my already existing anxiety/emotional issues, I was a wreck. Fine around the kids, but at night I essentially cried myself to sleep every night. When we had candlelight ceremonies, I burned myself with the candles, and purposefully dropped rocks or other things on my feet at the waterfront as methods of self-harm. I'm lucky my girlfriend, who was working at our sister camp, was here for me; it could have been a lot worse. I am getting better, although my mother threatens to make it worse with her controlling behavior.


Had to get that off my chest. Sorry folks...

Great, people are making the Dwarves that kill dragons with socks look sane. (Yeah huh, I get where the name and picture come from, ALL HAIL ARMOK)

I don't really have much to say here other than that its horrible. At least you know somewhere you'll find support and people that can help, and understand, or at least sympathize with your situation.

[Eirala]

...

...

I finally got my letter!!! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: You have no idea how happy I am! I faxed it in to my endo on my lunch break Friday. She apparently doesn't work on Fridays (found that out when I called to confirm that they got it), but hopefully she'll review it on Monday and send out the prescription...just a few...more...days...

And on top of that, it seems like everybody at my work was perfectly fine after the coming out process. My manager even said it had been discussed, and I can even use the ladies' room! Although I will admit it still makes me nervous, simply because I worry that I'm going to be making other people uncomfortable.

Finally! :smallsmile:



Also, quote from my daughter "It'll take a while to get used to, but I get used to a lot of things."
And we have a tradition of sorts where when driving her home we sing along to either Alestorm or Shiver My Timbers on the iPod :smallsmile:

Yay, glad it turned out well :smallsmile:



I don't know why but upon reading this, I had the most curious mental image...

An American man is walking through Central Park under a starry sky. He steps out from under the shade of the trees and the light of the full moon falls upon him. He collapses to the floor, a strange feeling gripping him. His immaculate teeth become distorted. The cap on his head turns into a bowler hat and a monocle leaps from out of nowhere and fastens itself to his right eye. His aggression becomes more of a polite insistence and he feels an unquenchable lust for a dark liquid, with sugar and milk.

He is the WereBrit.

XD



:smallfrown:

This is just horrible...
[trigger warning: severe homophobia/transphobia]
[spoiler]http://news.yahoo.com/jamaica-transgender-teen-murdered-mob-070446416.html

The complete misgendering only makes it worse, at least to me.

Ugh. :smallfrown: And yeah, the misgendering...


Anyway, Friday i handed in my bachelor's thesis so that's mostly over. I'm so much less stressed out now, finally i can relax a bit. Also the birthday party from a friend of mine was great. Almost always people adressed me correctly, even all the people i saw for the first time (and the aunt of my friend, she greetes me right away with my name which was awesome and also a bit weird). I also talked with his sister a bit about boobs and it was just a really awesome evening :3 Besides the one guy who thought it was a good idea to touch my (not yet real) boobs :smallsigh: (another guy at least asked so i could say no)

Now i'm just looking forward to first october where i have my second appointment at my therapist. I hope i can start hormones shortly after that :3

[SiuiS]

Randall Munroe.

http://what-if.xkcd.com/53/

That bastard! The idea was clearly Socratov's!


Urist: wow. :smalleek:
I uh. I don't know what to say.

Hoverfrog: I didn't get that impression.

The issue was the implication (... Direct assertion?) that all gay men were pedophile rapists, not that any actual raping to set the women straight would be done. Clear language difference, although the alternate interpretation is still pretty crap.

[hoverfrog]

They seem to be assuming, from the text as written, that gay people would do the raping, of the small children, apparently, not that they were the ones who "needed" it. Though, the stuff about "Re-introducing" lesbians to men does sound minorly dodgy.It sounds incredibly dodgy. That was the threat of rape that I was referring to. Even said in jest it would warrant some sort of disciplinary action...not the good kind.

[Irish Musician]

I'm so pleased to hear that! I think 10/11 is a good age to get this kind of thing; old enough to understand and young enough to accept. Older people can be very unaccepting, and I know my friend (who is turning 5 soon) completely accepts her mother's transgender friend but doesn't completely understand it yet.
A lot of adults don't completely understand it either, even the ones who are completely cool with it. I, for one, don't understand it, but I don't think I can because I am not feeling when my lovely trans people are feeling. However, that doesn't mean we can't be supportive and help them in any way we can and not judge them for some imagined slight. I, for one, hope more adults take the queue from children and just accept people for who they are.

Upstart colonists >_>
:P
:smallyuk: 'Mercia!
:-P

You know what I'd love to see? Two athletes kissing each other on the podium - a proper kiss. That would say more than any amount of flag waving or rainbow banners. :smallredface:
That would definitely make a statement :smallwink:

EDIT: @Urist - I am so sorry :smallfrown: All I can say is hang in there and give internet hugs. There are people out there that love you for who you are, just remember that :smallsmile:

~Matthew~

[Jormengand]

On a completely unrelated note, random me stuff. Minor TW for mention of homophobia, transphobia.
So, recently I'm really realising how uncomfortable I feel in a male body. The joke on me, of course, is that I would feel equally uncomfortable in a female body. The punchline is that I'd feel plain weird in a neutered one. So yeah, genderless and it sucks. Yay! :smallsigh:

I'm not sure whether to say anything about it to family and other people I know or not. To be honest, it doesn't change what they end up having to do (I don't really care which pronouns you use, call me she or even it all day and I'm not sure I'll be able to give a damn) so they don't need to know, but I hate keeping everything in me.

There's also the chance of them taking it badly. I get the feeling that I'll end up having a shockingly similar conversation to the one about being bisexual...

"Yeah, I get that you can like the same sex, but how can you like BOTH?"
Swiftly becoming...
"Yeah, I get that you can be the opposite gender, but how can you be NEITHER?"

Or, they'll just straight-up be stupid about it. There's probably a lot more ignorance of trans issues than LGB issues (as in, four years ago I knew the latter existed. A year ago, I learned of the former) which could mean less acceptance - although I suppose it could also mean more.

God damn it reality, why did you have to keep throwing random stuff at me?

The worst thing being, Reality can't really be attacked so I can't use Smite Stupid on it.

Guys, can I have some hugs/cookies/moral support/asterisk-clad emotes/advice?