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killem2
2013-08-10, 09:51 PM
I've seen the list for familiar usage, but are there any that good for a full 1-20 HD character like myself?

I'm already 6hd now, at the rate our sessions progress probably be 7 or 8 soon enough.

nm max 5hd :(

Humble Master
2013-08-10, 09:55 PM
If you are a Magical Beast: Blink Dog.

Blueiji
2013-08-10, 10:32 PM
Purely from the SRD you've got these.


Ankheg: Bite attack 2d6, +9 natural armor, 20 ft. burrow speed, large size.

Aranea: Bite attack 1d6, +1 natural armor, 25 ft. climb speed, Iron Will feat, +2 jump, +2 listen, +2 spot, +8 climb, medium size.

Blink Dog: Bite attack 1d6, +3 natural armor, 40 ft. movement speed, Track feat, medium size.

Cockatrice: Bite attack 1d4, 60 ft. flight speed (poor maneuverability), Weapon Finesse feat, small size.

Darkmantle: Slam attack 1d4, +6 natural armor, 30 ft. flight speed (poor maneuverability), +4 hide, small size.

Giant Eagle: Two claw attacks 1d6, bite attack 1d8, 80 ft. flight speed (average maneuverability), +3 natural armor, +4 spot, large size.

Ethereal Marauder: Bite attack 1d6, +3 natural armor, 40 ft. movement speed, +2 listen, +2 move silently, +2 spot, medium size.

Hippogriff: two claw attacks 1d4, bite attack 1d8, 50 ft. movement speed, 100 ft. flight speed (average maneuverability), +4 natural armor, +4 spot, large size.

Five-Headed Hydra: Five bite attacks 1d10, +6 natural armor, 20 ft. swim speed, Combat Reflexes feat, +2 spot, +2 listen, +8 swim to avoid hazards or perform special actions, huge size.

Krenshar: Two claw attacks 1d4, bite attack 1d6, 40 ft. movement speed, +3 natural armor, +4 jump, +4 move silently, Track feat, medium size.

Giant Owl: Two claw attacks 1d6, bite attack 1d8, +3 natural armor, 70 ft. flight speed (average maneuverability), +8 listen, +4 spot, +8 move silently when flying, large size.

Owlbear: Two claw attacks 1d6, bite attack 1d8, +5 natural armor, large size.

Pegasus: Two hoove attacks, bite attack, +3 natural armor, 60 ft. movement speed, 120 ft. flight speed (average maneuverability), +4 listen, +4 spot, large size.

Phase Spider: Bite attack 1d6, 40 ft. movement speed, 20 ft. climb speed, +8 climb, +3 natural armor, large size.

Shocker Lizard: Bite attack 1d4, 40 ft. movement speed, 20 ft. climb speed, 20 ft. swim speed, +3 natural armor, +4 hide, +2 listen, +2 spot, +8 climb, +8 swim to avid hazards or perform special actions, small size.

Spider Eater: Sting attack 1d8, 60 ft. flight speed (good maneuverability), +4 natural armor, +4 listen, +4 spot, large size.

Stirge: 40 ft. flight speed (average maneuverabilit), Weapon Finesse feat, tiny size.

Unicorn: Horn attack 1d8, 2 hoove attack 1d4, +6 natural armor, 60 ft. movement speed, +4 move silently, +3 survival within their own forests, large size.

Worg: Bite attack 1d6, 50 ft. movement speed, +1 listen, +1 move silently, +1 spot, +2 hide, +4 survival if tracking by scent, medium size.

Assuming you're of medium size, you can't change into a Five-Headed Hydra or Stirge, everything else is fair game.

I'm actively working on this list, I just wanted to post what I have so far so you know I'm working on it.

mattie_p
2013-08-10, 10:50 PM
There's a handbook (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=2811.0) for that, too.

killem2
2013-08-10, 11:15 PM
I'm actively working on this list, I just wanted to post what I have so far so you know I'm working on it.

Nice, I was just checking in general but that was because I forget it only goes upto 5hd. I knew of the handbook.

I created my own monster bible (yes like the other, bibles that float around on the internet) for my own personal use, but I was just trying to save time.

I will have to do some searching. :smallfrown: (5150 pages).