Can a player be cleric 1/ cloistered cleric 1?

[Arael666]

Well, the title is pretty self explanatory?

After the fisrt level as a claric or cloistered cleric, can a player advange in the other class?

If he can, would he benefit from those 2 classes separately? As in, would he be able to selec 2 domains from his deity and, as he advances another level, he would get to select another 2 domains?

[Jormengand]

Well, the title is pretty self explanatory?

After the fisrt level as a claric or cloistered cleric, can a player advange in the other class?

If he can, would he benefit from those 2 classes separately? As in, would he be able to selec 2 domains from his deity and, as he advances another level, he would get to select another 2 domains?

There is nothing to say you can't, and they're separate classes, so you gain the class features separately. The net result being that you have twice your normal number of low-level spells and no high-level ones, but...

[Fax Celestis]

Multiclassing And Variant Classes
Multiclassing between variants of the same class is a tricky subject. In cases where a single class offers a variety of paths (such as the totem barbarian or the monk fighting styles), the easiest solution is simply to bar multiclassing between different versions of the same class (just as a character can't multiclass between different versions of specialist wizards). For variants that are wholly separate from the character class—such as the bardic sage or the urban ranger—multiclassing, even into multiple variants of the same class, is probably okay. Identical class features should stack if gained from multiple versions of the same class (except for spellcasting, which is always separate).

In any case, only the first version of a favored class is treated as favored; a halfling rogue/wizard who later begins gaining levels in the wilderness rogue variant class can't treat both the rogue and wilderness rogue classes as favored, only the class gained first (in this case, rogue). Under no circumstances does spellcasting ability from multiple classes (even variants of the same class) stack. A character with levels of bard and levels of bardic sage has two separate caster levels and two separate sets of spells per day, even though the classes are very similar.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm

[Grod_The_Giant]

Multiclassing And Variant Classes
Multiclassing between variants of the same class is a tricky subject. In cases where a single class offers a variety of paths (such as the totem barbarian or the monk fighting styles), the easiest solution is simply to bar multiclassing between different versions of the same class (just as a character can't multiclass between different versions of specialist wizards). For variants that are wholly separate from the character class—such as the bardic sage or the urban ranger—multiclassing, even into multiple variants of the same class, is probably okay. Identical class features should stack if gained from multiple versions of the same class (except for spellcasting, which is always separate). (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm#clericVariantCloistere dCleric)
So in this case, probably yes-- though I don't know why you'd want to, since casting is explicitly called out as not stacking.

EDIT: Swordsage'd!

[Arael666]

There is nothing to say you can't, and they're separate classes, so you gain the class features separately. The net result being that you have twice your normal number of low-level spells and no high-level ones, but...

actualy, this is an idea I had for some time to increase the number of tuning pools for DMM. Since the ACF "Destroy Undead" states that I can only get it at first level, and the "Rebuke Dragons" ACF states that I only need 1st level cleric.

By that logic I could go 1st level in CC get Destroy Undead, the second level I would go Cleric 1 and get Rebuke Dragons. After that it would be just a matter of getting into sacred exorcist to get turn undead.

Voila, 3 separate turning pools, 4 domains, ECL 8.

[sleepyphoenixx]

So in this case, probably yes-- though I don't know why you'd want to, since casting is explicitly called out as not stacking.

EDIT: Swordsage'd!

Sacrificing a CL for 2 additional domains is not that bad of deal. There's a reason cleric is a favorite for dips.

[SowZ]

Would you get double uses of turn undead? I could see it being worthwhile for a handful or DMM builds.

[LTwerewolf]

You don't get 2 pools, the levels simply stack for your effective turning level. If you want multiple pools, you'll need to get rebuking or abuse nightsticks.

[Elricaltovilla]

You don't get 2 pools, the levels simply stack for your effective turning level. If you want multiple pools, you'll need to get rebuking or abuse nightsticks.

Be neutral and choose Turning for one cleric and Rebuking for the other?

[LTwerewolf]

Be neutral and choose Turning for one cleric and Rebuking for the other?

I don't recall anything that says this wouldn't work.

[Firechanter]

Rule legalese aside, this is exactly the kind of cheese I wouldn't allow, as liberal as I'm generally are in questions of character-customization.

Anyway, for the record, the alternative Cleric vs Cloistered Cleric is very clearly an instance of this:

In cases where a single class offers a variety of paths (such as the totem barbarian or the monk fighting styles), the easiest solution is simply to bar multiclassing between different versions

and not "totally different versions". The only difference is the chassis. Domains, Spells, Turning etc work exactly the same way. No double-classing with that. It's bad enough that CCl is such a superior 1-level dip anyway.

[Elricaltovilla]

I don't recall anything that says this wouldn't work.

Yay! I finally contributed to breaking 3.5!

*waits for someone to come along and tell me I'm wrong*

[awa]

the cloistered cleric also has some abilities the regular cleric does not and i consider a chassis change to be a pretty substantial difference far more then the minor differences of a wilderness rogue

[kulosle]

Or you can switch out one of them for destroy undead as stated before. So what i'm going to love the most about this is the different levels of bard. I love bards, and now i have to reconsider everything I ever knew about them. Multiple levels in level one Bard variants might be awesome.

Oh if i can get arcane hierophant two level up divine bard and sublime chord, that would be awesome.

[Silva Stormrage]

Yay! I finally contributed to breaking 3.5!

*waits for someone to come along and tell me I'm wrong*

Nope that works, I personally enjoy getting a cleric with rebuke into sacred exorcist for that trick.

[mattie_p]

Don't forget Death Delver. A 1 level dip grants rebuke (and some minor spellcasting), even for good-aligned characters. Combine with above for all the turning.