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Finn Solomon
2013-08-19, 03:51 AM
Hello everyone! I've hosted a tournament like this way back in 2009 (my goodness) to determine the best female character in all of fiction. I think the time is ripe to try again! For those interested, please check out the link below.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112970

One of the things I liked best about the previous tournament is that it introduced me to a whole host of new awesome characters that I never heard of before. Hopefully we'll have the same interest this time around.

Here are the rules:

1. Every character nominated must be fictional, or a fictionalised version of a real world woman. (For example merely naming Queen Elizabeth doesn't count, but Queen Elizabeth as played by Cate Blanchett will)

2. Non-humans are fine, as long as they have recognisable female qualities. (Like GLaDOS from Portal)

3. Your nominations will be drawn according to a series of categories, to make sure an even spread across all of fiction. (See below for more details)

4. There will be 80 nominations, the reason being a permutation of 4 is needed for the knockout rounds. (If there is enough interest, I will increase the number of nominations)

5. After 80 nominations have been collected, I will close the nominations and begin randomly dividing our girls into pairs, through an intricate process known as "drawing names out of a hat".

6. We shall then vote the winner of each pair, and knock out the loser until one girl will emerge as champion and reigning Queen of the playground. Everyone is welcome to join in writing up their endorsements of their favourite character to make sure she survives each vote.

7. Vote for the girl you like best, not just who'd win in a fight.

8. I'll start things off by nominating eight girls. I would appreciate it if you guys followed the same style I used in your own nominations. (Name followed by the source) Please don't nominate a character that has already been nominated. Feel free to post up pics, just not too big. Also if you like, post a short write-up introducing your pick and why you chose her.

Literature: Lisbeth Salander, The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8818/tumblrltslicjwka1qgh7jg.jpg

Comics (Eastern and Western): Death of the Endless, Sandman

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/79/11/0a/79110aa28a4c65c40406639c36362b35.jpg

Animation (Eastern and Western): Chihiro, Spirited Away

http://postfiles5.naver.net/20110207_20/flskjj1_1297085823487VJc3F_JPEG/1.jpg?type=w2

Movies: Marla Singer, Fight Club

http://www.quotesworthrepeating.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Marla-Singer.jpg

TV: River Tam, Firefly

http://captaintightpants.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/tumblr_mjl1ouV7Nt1s22p0qo1_-234x300.jpg

Video Games: Commander Jane Shepard, Mass Effect

http://johnmoyer.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/mass-effect-fem-shep-600x300.jpg

Free pick (Any medium): Professor River Song, Doctor Who

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uWAzZhhM1_I/URJwA7r4r9I/AAAAAAAAB6Y/rO9YLr0_aIg/s640/river+song.jpg

Free pick: Lilly Satou, Katawa Shoujo

http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/My+my+a+little+bit+sassy+are+we+_492491bac054cd176 de7f2fce0f1796e.jpg

RCgothic
2013-08-19, 04:11 AM
Commander Shepherd as played by Jennifer Hale. Although I see you've already got that one. :smallwink:

Olinser
2013-08-19, 08:51 AM
You're missing a couple big names:

From the Manga front:

Erza from Fairy Tail

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/20800000/erza-scarlet-erza-scarlet-20854302-517-600.jpg

From the video game front:

Lightning from Final Fantasy XIII

http://www.cheatcc.com/imagesfeatures/top10badasswomenofvideogames_10.jpg

Kerrigan from Starcraft

http://www.cheatcc.com/imagesfeatures/top10badasswomenofvideogames_9.jpg

Samus from Metroid

http://www.cheatcc.com/imagesfeatures/top10badasswomenofvideogames_5.jpg


My own personal nomination I'll thrown in from Tower of God, a Korean webcomic that is fairly popular, and I love it.

Ha Yuri Zahard

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130129031823/towerofgod/images/1/19/YuriArrives.jpg

Raimun
2013-08-19, 09:05 AM
Video Games: The Boss.

http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/The_Boss

Haleyintraining
2013-08-19, 09:23 AM
Television: Echo, Dollhouse

http://blogs.pioneerlocal.com/entertainment/eliza-dollhouse.jpg

Movies: Penny, Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg197/renziebaluyut/My%20Blogging%20Efforts/therenzieman%20blogspot/DrHorriblesSing-alongBlog-Penny02.png?t=1216877903

Literature: Minerva McGonagall, Harry Potter

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q73/s320x320/1014194_500230463403835_912508534_n.jpg

Video Games: Saria, Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

http://s3.zerochan.net/Saria.240.803908.jpg

Comics: Black Widow, Marvel Comics

http://www.espressogossip.com/files/articles/77/1366846763.jpg

Free pick - Television: Kaylee Frye, Firefly

http://www.g33kpron.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Kaylee-Frye-Parasole.jpg

pita
2013-08-19, 09:27 AM
Pretty much because I want to see how long before she's kicked out:
Television: Skyler White (Breaking Bad)
http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/arts/tv_club/2013/08/130815_TVC_BreakingBadSkylerS5.jpg.CROP.multipart-medium.jpg

Serious character choices, though...
Comics: Tulip O'Hare (Preacher)
The character who kicks the most rear end in a series of people who all kick rear end is a woman. Not much more to say about her.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nJ2laoxDnfI/TTYaORDoYeI/AAAAAAAAAEw/4WYFpcLjVwQ/s320/Tulip_Preacher.jpg
Film/Novel (Both applicable): Clarice Starling (Silence of the Lambs)
I find it hard to explain exactly why I like her - She's very much a female white knight. She's also the only person (if you exclude the atrocity that is Hannibal) who manipulated Hannibal Lecter.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Tgysim-hYw0/UGjwIV0CLdI/AAAAAAAAAu8/l_guQgGb8pA/s200/Clarice-Starling.gif
Novel: Monzcarro Murcatto (Best Served Cold)
My personal favorite out of all of these characters - Since when has any character been so bloody-minded merely because of inertia? She makes an ill-considered resolution at the beginning of the book, and is drawn to it not because it's right, or it'll help her, or it's what she wants, but because she made the decision and she's not going to back down. I can think of no other literary character like that. Added points because Best Served Cold is like Joss Whedon with extra nihilism. Pic spoiled for size.
http://philnorris63.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/best-served-cold-sub-press.jpg

Dienekes
2013-08-19, 10:08 AM
Literature: Arya Stark (A Song of Ice and Fire)
"Weese, Dunsen, Chiswyck, Polliver, Raff the Sweetling, the Tickler, the Hound, the Mountain, Amory Lorch, Ilyn Payne, Meryn Trant, Prince Joffrey and Queen Cersei."
-Arya Stark's hit list


Comic: Harley Quinn (Batman) [Because Death was already picked]
"You think after living with Mistah J I'd be used to a little pain"

TV: Atia of the Julii (Rome)
"I know who you are, I can see you. You’re swearing now that someday you’ll destroy me. Remember, far better women than you have sworn to do the same. Go and look for them now."

Animation: Mulan (Mulan)
"I see you're sword. I have one too, they're very manly and... tough!"

Movie: Ellen Ripley (Alien and Aliens)
"Get away from her YOU BITCH!"

Video Game: Lara Croft (Tomb Raider) [Probably only here cause I enjoyed that last game so much]
"Grunt/howl of pain"

[Kerrigan would have been my pick for video game if they didn't pull that ridiculous turning her good nonsense. She was the Queen Bitch of the Universe! What happened?]

Free Pick: Hit Girl (Kick-Ass)
"I'm just f***ing with you, Daddy! Look, I'd love a Benchmade model 42 butterfly knife."

Free Pick: The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz)
"I'll get you my pretty, and you're little dog too!"

Eldan
2013-08-19, 10:08 AM
I feel as if I have to nominate someone written by Robin Hobb, simply because I can't think of any other author that does character development quite as well. Of course, barely anyone seems to read her, so here's a character to drop out round 1:

Novel: Ronica Vestrit (The Liveship Traders)
I would have said Althea, but upon re-reading, I found out that I actually like her a lot less now than the first time around, because this time, I'm admitting that other characters might actually be right about her.

TV, since I used novel already: Arya Stark
Come on, she's fun.
Nevermind, ninjas.

Free pick, since I used novel already: Esmeralda "Granny" Weatherwax (Discworld)

Comics: Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
Since Death is already taken.
I'll try to think of someone for the other categories.

And for the Oh-god-how-could-I-forget-that-I-just-watched-this factor, afte rI read the list from the last contest:
Animated: Balsa (Seirei no Moribito/Guardian of the Spirit)

tensai_oni
2013-08-19, 10:21 AM
Are you going to limit how many characters can a single person nominate? Or how many can we nominate from a single piece of media - before all the Katawa Shoujo girls get nominated? Not that I mind that.

Comic Books (Eastern and Western): Tomoko Kuroki from No Matter How You Look At It, It's Your Fault I'm Not Popular (Wata Mote for short)
http://images.sgcafe.net/2013/05/watamote-1.jpg

There is also a WataMote anime but the manga came first hence the category. Tomoko is an asociable and unpleasant otaku girl who really wants to become popular, find a boyfriend and get laid - but harsh reality has something else to say in that matter. Her adventures in awkwardness and absolute lack of social skills balance on a fine line between making you feel sorry for her, and thinking she had that one coming (because she can be quite a jerk and/or pervert at times).

Video Games: Tali'Zorah from the Mass Effect series
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100106125312/masseffect/images/2/2f/Talicharactershotme2.jpg

One of the two Mass Effect characters to be available as party members in all three games, and for a good reason. Tali is a quarian, an alien race whose members must stay inside bio-isolated suits at all times, because their immunological systems are so weak. When you first meet her, she is young, inexperienced and on a lone journey that all quarians must pass to be considered adults. Despite her age, she is a very skilled engineer. Also, she has a shotgun. She is a bit nerdy and gets socially awkward at times, especially if Shep decides to pursue a romantic relationship with her.

Animation (Eastern and Western): Mami Tomoe from Puella Magi Madoka Magica
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_max581UdYV1qj4y8qo1_400.jpg

Mami is a magical girl - she was one day approached by a strange creature known as Kyubei, who offered her a wish in exchange for giving her powers to fight evil witches. That wish was to save her life, because she was in a car accident at the time, an accident that she was the only survivor of. Despite her dramatic past, she is a classy and composed young lady, who likes tea and really big (magical) guns. But except for Kyubei, she was always alone. At least, until she meets the protagonist of the show.
I literally cannot say anything else, because spoilers.

Free pick - visual novel: Hanako Ikezawa from Katawa Shoujo
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101102031361/katawashoujo/images/c/cf/Char_hanako.png

Hanako is a girl who was very hurt by her past. A tragic accident left half of her body severely burned, she also has huge anxiety issues and can barely talk to people outside her social circle of... roughly, 2 individuals. Rather than dealing with others, she'd rather spend the whole day in the library, reading books. And she is absolutely adorable. But make no mistake, if you treat her as a fragile flower to be protected and shielded from the world, the sentiment will come bite you in the ass. Katawa Shoujo's message is that everyone, no matter what kind of problems and disabilities they may have, is a person - and should be treated as a person first, with their own strengths and weaknesses.

endoperez
2013-08-19, 10:25 AM
I read lots of fantasy books, but can't think of a female character that has made a bigger impression than one of the more numerous male characters. Some female side characters are interesting, but so far out of the focus that I don't feel like nominating them would be justified. That said, here are my two nominations from web fiction.

Edit: after reading the ninja nominations, I was reminded of Esme Weatherwax and Mami Tomoe, those are indeed nice characters. Both Discworld and PMMM have some other good female characters I could pick from if I absolutely had to, I guess, but I feel like it's better to have characters from many different creators. That said, I did recall some more characters just now...


There are only the character images and sometimes a line of explanation inside the spoiler boxes, nothing spoileriffic otherwise.

Literature: Sophie Hatter, from Howl's Moving Castle
She appears on Dianna Wynne Jones' book and in the Ghibli animated movie of the same name, with some differences. She's a young woman magically changed into an old woman, and even though she discovers magical powers of her own she still has self-esteem issues which her elder exterior mirrors. The books handle her subtle and powerful magic really extremely well.

Comics: Antimony "Annie" Carver, from Gunnerkrigg Court
Gunnerkrigg Court is a webcomic also printed on paperbacks. The protagonist of the story, Annie, starts out as a precocious brat who hides away all her feelings, and as of now is a young woman who has many friends despite her occasional emotional outbursts. She's grown during the series beautifully. There's so much character in her, and in the story.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/91ea36d4952f2cada9be8cc1c88aa700/tumblr_mirperaGrr1r0pucbo1_500.png

Animation: Katara, from Avatar: The Last Airbender
She's a temperamental big sister to her whole group of friends, literally or figuratively. She is a capable warrior, hard-working and gifted waterbender (water controller), etc.
http://www.freewebs.com/zutarachick/katara03.jpg

(edit: changed the suggested name so people could actually find info about the character by googling this...)
Free pick: Taylor "Skitter" Hebert, from Worm
Worm (http://parahumans.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/1-1/) is an online story, with a larger wordcount than that of many fantasy series. I doubt Taylor will win, but she deserves a nomination.
Worm is a superhero story where the people with the powers are vulnerable are human and faulty, and things don't go well. Then things go worse. Go straight to worse, do not pass go.
The story never becomes totally cynic, because Taylor never gives up. She's a pragmatic, and possibly an optimist - she will do everything in her power to do everything she can to make what she thinks is right, even when the situation seems hopeless. She is often wrong about what is right, and what is the best course of action. She becomes a violent, scary person, known and respected and feared. Her power, to control bugs, is examined in detail. The details make it one of the most clever, most useful powers I've seen anywhere.

Here Taylor meets a new friend. Because first impressions matter, Taylor is kicking her while she's down. This is before things got worse.
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/177/b/b/worm_commission_wip_by_drunkfu-d54mtuy.jpg (http://drunkfu.deviantart.com/art/Worm-Commission-WIP-310114474)

Eldan
2013-08-19, 10:37 AM
Heh. I had forgotten that piece of fanart. And yes, Taylor needs to be on this list.

Finn Solomon
2013-08-19, 11:31 AM
Are you going to limit how many characters can a single person nominate? Or how many can we nominate from a single piece of media - before all the Katawa Shoujo girls get nominated? Not that I mind that.

I intended you guys to follow my example in the first post, so each person can nominate up to 8 characters, according to the categories listed. Guess I should have made that clearer!

Terraoblivion
2013-08-19, 11:32 AM
Sure jumping in as well.

Litterature: Holo the Wise Wolf, Spice and Wolf
http://taylorramage.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/1.png
A harvest deity suffering from reduced relevance in the face of a rising monotheistic religion, Holo decides to leave it all behind and hitch a ride with a passing merchant to try and get back to her old home far to the north. From here she finds a new purpose in life as a merchant, using her divine ability to see through lies and her cleverness to help the merchant she's traveling with earn money, in exchange for his help in finding her way home. Every bit as smart as she's billed at, she's got amazing wit in a conversation regardless of topic, is excellent at scheming and a true connoisseur of human cuisine.

Animation: Akemi Homura, Puella Magi Madoka Magica
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/homuhomu_5349.png
It's limited how much I can say, since Homura is more or less a walking collection of spoilers. However, I can say that as the show goes on, she reveals herself to be one of the most impressively badass characters and an excellent example of a deeply flawed person who is still undeniably heroic. Cold, aloof and yet clearly deeply emotionally involved and concerned for the other characters, she is quite interesting even before her deal is explained and only gets more so from there.

Video Games: Tezuka Rin, Katawa Shoujo
http://wallpoper.com/images/00/35/01/55/sunsets-visual_00350155.png
An eccentric, armless painter Rin has lived her life being hailed as a prodigy for her art, yet as talented as she is at art, she is absolutely incompetent at ordinary social skills. She seems to really only have one friend and that friend keeps misunderstanding her completely and hurt her deeply due to it, though unless you get to know her well those misunderstandings are easy to make. Similarly, nobody actually gets her art or what she tries to do with it, instead treating her as something between a novelty and someone who only has worth due to being able to produce it, ignoring what she is actually trying to communicate in painting. Yet for all this, her arc is ultimately hopeful, at least if you manage to understand it well enough to make the right choices, and she is deeply relatable for anybody who has experienced being gravely misunderstood by people around them or failing to communicate their thoughts and ideas to others.

Free Pick - Literature or animation: Kato Marika, Bodacious Space Pirates
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121231012611/mouretsupirates/images/8/87/Marika_~_Captain_01.png
With a name like Bodacious Space Pirates and a story about a teenage girl inheriting a space pirate ship, you wouldn't expect much from the main character. However, you'd be wrong, Marika is not only hardworking and determined, but also thoughtful about major decisions, genuinely smart and cool under fire. And though all this she remains relatable thanks to ordinary little things she enjoys and meaningful friendships with much of the rest of the cast. However, what makes Marika truly remarkable is her growth, which makes it clear how she's growing into her role, rather than magically perfect at it from the start.

Free Pick - Animation: Sumiregawa Nenene, Read or Die: The TV
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/nenene_2697.jpg
I know that Nenene is also in both the novels and the manga, but they're three separate continuities and she's a notably different character in the anime and I think it's by far the superior version. Nenene is a world famous writer suffering from depression after the disappearance of a woman who she was probably quite deeply in love with, leading to a writer's block that simply makes her depression worse. Often rude and abrasive and always stubborn, she's nonetheless very caring towards what few friends she has and as the show develops and she starts recovering she also quickly shows herself to be both the smartest and most levelheaded among the heroes in the show. She is also noteworthy in that she's an unpowered nerd in pretty questionable shape in a show about superheroes who still manages to be vital and come off badass, all without being a Batman-style genius. The ruder side of her personality also tends to hit the villains, making her quite effective in telling them to shove it with their grand speeches.

Olinser
2013-08-19, 11:42 AM
Bodacious Space Pirates

Is that a hentai? Cause it sounds like a hentai.

tensai_oni
2013-08-19, 11:44 AM
Is that a hentai? Cause it sounds like a hentai.

It's the very opposite of a hentai. Not only does it have no adult-oriented material, it has pretty much no fanservice.

Terraoblivion
2013-08-19, 11:55 AM
Like the oni said, Bodacious Space Pirates is about as non-hentai as you can get in a show aimed at adults. It's a space opera about privateers who have adapted to life in peacetime and a girl finding her way into her adult life as one of them.

Drascin
2013-08-19, 11:57 AM
It's the very opposite of a hentai. Not only does it have no adult-oriented material, it has pretty much no fanservice.

You have to admit, though, nothing with that title has any right of being as good as BSP is :smalltongue:.

ArlEammon
2013-08-19, 12:04 PM
Murder, She Wrote/Jessica Fletcher
For Senior Citizen Females:

http://imageshack.us/a/img850/8968/xm68.jpg

Hawriel
2013-08-19, 12:10 PM
I would like to suggest another rule. If a character crosses genre, then they must be listed in the category they appeared in first.

For example River Tam was both in a TV show and a movie. However the TV show came first. Lord of the Rings is a book series, that wad turned into a movie. So characters from there should be listed under literature.

Unless it's the actresses performance that made the character for the poster.

Movie:
Princess Leia
Star Wars

http://theincredibletide.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/leia.jpg

Comics:
Selina kyle, Catwoman.
DC comics, Batman's foil, and fem fetal in Batman comics.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cd/AnneHathawayCatwoman.jpg/220px-AnneHathawayCatwoman.jpg

http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images/AUTOIMAGES/DC110246lg.jpg

Video games:
Jade
Beyond Good and Evil

http://bestgamewallpapers.com/files/beyond-good-evil/jade.jpg

Literature:
Verin Mathwin of the Brown Adja
The Wheel of Time

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/uploads/gallery/album_204/med_gallery_22960_204_136479.jpg

TV:
Aeryn Sun
Farscape

http://www.farscapefantasy.com/index.2003/graphics/art.gallery/Kali/Aeryn.Sun.jpg


Animation:

Free pick 1
TV
Susan Ivanova
Babylon 5

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10900000/Susan-Ivanova-babylon-5-10931951-304-380.jpg


free pick 2
Literature
Eowyn
Lord of the Rings

http://www.alquier.org/linfa/create/files/2004/01/833175366_182f8a90aa_o.jpg

Man on Fire
2013-08-19, 12:13 PM
Literature: The Lady (Black Company)
“I do not want to die, Croaker. All that I am shrieks against the unrighteousness of death. All that I am, was, and probably will be, is shaped by my passion to evade the end of me.”
http://durkbricknell.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/glitteringstone1.jpg?w=500&h=719

Comics (Eastern of Western): Nico Minoru (Runaways)
Victor: You guys have some kind of rallying cry? You know, "Avengers assemble?" "It's clobberin' time?" "Hulk smash?"
Nico: "Try not to die".
http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/img/s/SisterGrimm.jpg

Animation (Eastern of Western): Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass)
"What the hell's that mean?! There's no need to apologize! It's either right or wrong! You think you can flip on the good-guy routine whenever you like?! Not when I'm this pissed off! Kallen Kōzuki's a soldier, not a sideshow!"
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/68345/3209841-sample20466d691c171c2aa.jpg

Movies:

TV:

Video Games: Jaheira (Baldur' Gate)
Baron Ployer: Jaheira, you and your claims brought me shame and suffering, and today I am going to exact payment. For your slanderous accusations I am going to...
Jaheira: Well, the slander is going a bit far. You actually were a slaver, you know. It's not slander if it's proven.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070428203446/forgottenrealms/images/0/09/Jaheira_-_Baldur%27s_Gate_2.jpg

Free Pick - Comics: AmandaWaller (John Ostrander's Suicide Squad)
(Facing the full investigative might of the Senate, with a scary grin) “Hey, it’s just another fight for survival. It’s what I’m good at."
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/ostrander6.jpg
http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo271/queenursulalj/suicidesquad/SuicideSquad34-1.png

Free Pick - Eastern Animation/Literature: Saber (fate/zero and ony fate/zero as I don't know Fate/Stay Night)
I only joined this war to avoid spilling rivers of blood. Fight for the Holy Grail, no meaningless bloodshed, minimize sacrifices, one person taking up the mission of fate instead of armies of men and competing here… this is what we Servants should do

http://thug-geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Saber-Fate-Zero.jpg

I'll add something to those three I left later.

Stake A Vamp
2013-08-19, 12:17 PM
Literature: Holly Short from Artemis Fowl


Comic: I have nothing

TV: Willow from Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Animation: Weiss Schnee (I think i spelled that right) from RWBY

Movie: Penny from DR.Horribles Sing Along Blog

Video Game: i have nothing to contribute in this category


Free Pick: Amelia Pond from Doctor Who

dps
2013-08-19, 12:19 PM
Willow, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Really, she's a more interesting character than Buffy herself.

Tengu_temp
2013-08-19, 12:24 PM
Video Game: Celes Chere, Final Fantasy 6

Animation: Ayumu "Osaka" Kasuga, Azumanga Daioh

Both of those characters are well-known enough that I doubt elaboration is necessary.

Dienekes
2013-08-19, 12:35 PM
Video Game: Celes Chere, Final Fantasy 6

Animation: Ayumu "Osaka" Kasuga, Azumanga Daioh

Both of those characters are well-known enough that I doubt elaboration is necessary.

Heh, amusingly I don't know either of them. I never liked the Final Fantasy franchise and I have never even heard of Azumanga Daioh.

You don't really need to explain them, since I didn't for mine, but I just found your assessment of how well known they were amusing.

Edit: Also, the Hell is wrong with me? I forgot Toph Beifong! I need to go switch my animation answer now.

Hawriel
2013-08-19, 12:37 PM
Video Game: Celes Chere, Final Fantasy 6

Animation: Ayumu "Osaka" Kasuga, Azumanga Daioh

Both of those characters are well-known enough that I doubt elaboration is necessary.

You would be wrong. I have no idea who or what you are talking about.

Zevox
2013-08-19, 12:41 PM
Video Games: Naoto Shirogane, Persona 4.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/square_small/4/47703/3023250-5330985230-Naoto.png
A young girl from a family with a long line of detectives, Naoto struggles with reconciling the reality that her chosen profession is both dominated by men in practice and idealized as a male one in the popular consciousness in her home country of Japan with the fact that she is herself a woman. This leads to her posing as a man more often than not - even her name is one she assumed to help her pass herself off as a male ("Naoto" being a male name in Japan). She is very hard-working, and will go extreme lengths to discover the truth of a mystery if any doubt about it remains, which garnered her a reputation as a genius investigator. But her work-oriented nature also causes her to struggle with personal relationships, and she can be very awkward in casual social situations.

Video Games (Free Pick): Mitsuru Kirijo, Persona 3
http://www.popanime.net/megami/wiki/images/thumb/4/4e/Mitsuru.jpg/180px-Mitsuru.jpg
The heiress of a wealthy and powerful business group, Mitsuru is one of the leaders of (arguably the leader of, especially after a certain event in the game) the group SEES, a group of high school students possessing the gift of Personas, dedicated to exploring the mysterious Dark Hour and the tower Tartarus that appears during it, and protecting the world from the creatures called Shadows that inhabit it. She later goes on to found and lead a government-funded anti-shadow group, the Shadow Operatives. She is a skilled fencer and very driven at her work, but also very sheltered.

Video Games (Free Pick): Labrys, Persona 4 Arena
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120823231221/megamitensei/images/9/98/P4ALabrys.jpg
Labrys was one of the fifth-generation of robots created by the Kirijo group in an attempt to create an anti-Shadow weapon capable of wielding the power of Persona.
While not the first of this group to develop a personality and feelings successfully, she was ultimately the first to successfully develop a Persona. But her near-successful rebellion and escape from the facility where she was created lead to her being sealed away for some time. She is the central character of Persona 4 Arena, the story of which sees her dealing with the psychological scars that the cruel experiments used on her left her with. She dreams of one day meeting the young girl who served as the basis for her and her generation of robots' personality.

Animation: Toph Bei Fong, Avatar: The Last Airbender
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2641/3905754208_6e523b268e.jpg
A 12-year-old blind girl, Toph possesses incredible talent as an earth-bender, which she uses to help overcome her disability by "seeing" through vibrations in the ground around her. She is a very rebellious character, who ran away from home to accompany Avatar Aang on his journey and teach him earthbending. While raised as a proper noble girl, she prefers to act very much as a tomboy, with little regard for etiquette or rules, and has a bluntness to her way of speaking that can come across as rude. She was also the first earthbender to discover a way to bend metal, which was previously thought impossible.

Man on Fire
2013-08-19, 12:47 PM
I was under the impression it's one character per cathegory for each poster. How it is in the end?

Terraoblivion
2013-08-19, 12:50 PM
I was under the impression it's one character per cathegory for each poster. How it is in the end?

People also have two free picks, so it's entirely possible to have three characters from a category.

Also holy spoiler warning Batman. You might want to edit what you wrote about Naoto and Labrys, Zevox. Also as much as I love Naoto and see them as a girl, a good case can be made for them being a trans dude or non-binary queer, so I'm not sure putting them here is appropriate.

Spiryt
2013-08-19, 12:54 PM
Margarita from Master and Margarita as far as literature goes...

And that's sole pick that comes to my mind right now, I have a hard time 'judging' fictional characters, but I think it will do.

Zevox
2013-08-19, 12:59 PM
People also have two free picks, so it's entirely possible to have three characters from a category.

Also holy spoiler warning Batman. You might want to edit what you wrote about Naoto and Labrys, Zevox. Also as much as I love Naoto and see them as a girl, a good case can be made for them being a trans dude or non-binary queer, so I'm not sure putting them here is appropriate.
It's awfully hard to discuss Naoto or Labrys without spoilers, that's certainly true. Hell, even nominating Naoto here is sort of a spoiler, all things considered. But her especially I definitely want to nominate, as she's probably my favorite female character in fiction at this point. I will put their portions in spoiler boxes, though.

Hawriel
2013-08-19, 01:03 PM
I was under the impression it's one character per cathegory for each poster. How it is in the end?

Stick board rule number 1. ignore what the OP asked for and do what ever you want.

bguy
2013-08-19, 01:15 PM
Literature: Laurana Kanan from Dragonlance.

Television: Agent 99 from Get Smart.

Animation: April O'Neil from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Video Game: Visas Marr from Knights of the Old Republic II.

Free Pick: Cersei Lannister from A Song of Ice and Fire.

Zevox
2013-08-19, 01:18 PM
I was under the impression it's one character per cathegory for each poster. How it is in the end?
If that's the case, the OP didn't specify it. He asked that we specify which category they fit into and where they come from, but didn't put other restrictions on it explicitly. I suppose you could take the "free pick" reference in his own nomination listings as implying that, though. For safety's sake, I'll put "free pick" next to my nominations for Mitsuru and Labrys.

Hiro Protagonest
2013-08-19, 01:33 PM
Animation (Eastern/Western): Kim Possible
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/704/kpepicpb4.jpg
http://www.savekimpossible.com/kim-possible-graduation.jpg
A parody show of superspy and pulp action genres as well as a high school dramedy (and a really good one at that; it's not just a teen sitcom with a convoluted soap opera plot), the show manages to be both lighthearted and serious. At the center of this is a cheerleader who knows kung fu and fights supervillains, with the help of a preteen whizkid that gives her info and gadgets, and her best friend for twelve years, a guy whose biggest strength is defying the odds. Never brought down by the condition known as "role-model", she's a very human character, but also a strong woman who can keep a cool head.

You can watch pretty much the whole thing between this (http://video.disney.com/shows/kim-possible-4ba34a96fd91059e961b9666) (out of order; cross-reference the episode list (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kim_Possible_episodes)) and this (http://sharetv.org/shows/kim_possible/watch) for episodes not found on the other page (a good chunk of season 2 is missing on the other one).

Terraoblivion
2013-08-19, 02:05 PM
And for some reason I forgot one earlier. I'll put her here and edit the previous post to keep my number of picks and such tidier to look over.

Free Pick - Animation: Sumiregawa Nenene, Read or Die: The TV
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/nenene_2697.jpg
I know that Nenene is also in both the novels and the manga, but they're three separate continuities and she's a notably different character in the anime and I think it's by far the superior version. Nenene is a world famous writer suffering from depression after the disappearance of a woman who she was probably quite deeply in love with, leading to a writer's block that simply makes her depression worse. Often rude and abrasive and always stubborn, she's nonetheless very caring towards what few friends she has and as the show develops and she starts recovering she also quickly shows herself to be both the smartest and most levelheaded among the heroes in the show. She is also noteworthy in that she's an unpowered nerd in pretty questionable shape in a show about superheroes who still manages to be vital and come off badass, all without being a Batman-style genius. The ruder side of her personality also tends to hit the villains, making her quite effective in telling them to shove it with their grand speeches.

Tengu_temp
2013-08-19, 02:20 PM
Heh, amusingly I don't know either of them. I never liked the Final Fantasy franchise and I have never even heard of Azumanga Daioh.

You don't really need to explain them, since I didn't for mine, but I just found your assessment of how well known they were amusing.

You would be wrong. I have no idea who or what you are talking about.

"Well-known enough" means "if you don't know who this character is, you probably won't vote for her anyway". Which is actually true for all of them, because most people won't vote for characters they don't know.

Geddoe
2013-08-19, 03:56 PM
Comics: Captain Marvel/Carol Danvers
Video Games: Lenneth Valkyrie(Valkyrie Profile)
Literature: Balsa (seirei no moribito)
Live Action TV: Nina Myers

Kitten Champion
2013-08-19, 04:04 PM
I can't decide on literature and comics for now.

Animation: Edward Wong Hau Pepelu Tivrusky IV, Cowboy Bebop

Movies: Ellen Ripley, Alien

Television: C.J. Cregg, West Wing

Video Games: Ellie, The Last of Us.

Free pick: Kino, Kino's Journey.

Edit: Huh, I've been spelling her name wrong for a while then.

Barnabi
2013-08-19, 05:05 PM
Literature:
Susannah Dean (http://darktower.wikia.com/wiki/Susannah_Dean), The Dark Tower series
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110324045852/darktower/images/thumb/2/24/Susannah.jpg/190px-Susannah.jpg

Tanuki Tales
2013-08-19, 06:20 PM
Manga: No love for Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)?

http://cortesdemangas.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/integra-smaller.jpg

Integra started her life's path as nothing more than mere slip of a girl who had always relied on her father for everything. She was raised and taught to become the next head of the Hellsing Organization, the illustrious clandestine group employed by the British Crown to eliminate all supernatural threats that would threaten the sanctity of the Empire and put in jeopardy the lives of the normal populace. But she is timid and unsure of what she's learned and being groomed for, very much a wide eyed innocent who doesn't know the true depths of the abyss she's going to plunge into one day.

Then her father dies when she's twelve and before even his body is truly cold she finds herself on the run and fighting for her life as her own uncle is trying to brutally murder her in an attempted coup of the organization. Without a single friend or ally she manages to elude all capture until she finally finds herself in her family mansion's basement, where her father had told her to seek refuge when she had nowhere else to turn and no one else to call on.

Even when her Uncle confronts her in that basement cell she defies her dismal fate with as best a stiff upper lip as she can. It was there that she found herself suddenly the mistress of Hellsing ultimate bioweapon, the vampire Alucard. The culmination of decades upon decades of experimentation on the elder vampire Dracula, Alucard had become more of a cthonic abomination than a vampire. His willpower is incredible and more than enough to completely steam roll lesser individuals, but Integra would prove she was more than enough in the coming decade.

With the death of both her father and uncle, Integra would see herself ascend to the throne of power in her organization and through her own force of will and brilliant intellect she found herself on equal standing with every other member of The Convention of Twelve (made up of politicians, nobles, and high ranking military members loyal to Queen Elizabeth II). This is an Illuminati-esque organization that was made exclusively of men with the title of Lord and yet her was this young spit of a girl who begrudgingly made them all meet her eye to eye and refer to her by her proper title of 'Lord" by the tender age of 22.

The events of Hellsing would see her plummet into a practical Hell as the remnants of Hitler's occult super soldier program, the Letzte Bataillon, would begin to make their move to their ultimate goal of a war to end all wars and the death of Alucard. But even as her very will and body are tested by everything around her, Integra never loses her iron clad will and acts as proper of a woman and a person of her status would and should be expected to act. Just a list of things she needs to deal with are:

Going toe to toe with Father Alexander Anderson in the Badrick incident. Here is a Vatican agent who is as much a monster as anything he hunts who has injured her latest subordinate, Seras Victoria, gravely, who effortlessly slaughtered the two highly trained men she brought with her and even claimed to have killed Alucard himself like he was just gutter trash. She, a normal human by all regards, holds him off with nothing but a pistol and a saber and just sneers in his face that he thinks that he actually killed her most faithful servant by doing something banal as cutting his head off and mocks him for being just a monster himself.
Dealing with the invasion of her mansion by Luke and Jan Valentine during the Convention of Twelve meeting. She doesn't bat an eye when her men are effortlessly slaughtered, her escape helicopter destroyed and threats being levied towards her that Jan would rape her to death. She shows no mercy towards Jan after he is reduced to a basic cripple and only loses her composure once she sees Seras slaughtered the re-animated ghouls of her own lost staff. But not because of the horror of the situation but because she feels for Seras and knows how much her losing her humanity in such a display would shake the girl to her core. [Mind you, I feel like this is an OOC moment, but it might be a rare slip behind Integra's persona]
Mentally sparring (for the umpteenth time surely) with Alucard during the Rio incident. Alucard tries to provoke and psychologically break down his master, pointing out that his killing of misguided Brazilian SWAT members who are being thrown into his waiting jaws by corrupt Brass doesn't mean a thing to him, that he is just a weapon to be pointed and shot by her will. She berates him in a rageful declaration that Alucard should know better than to question her resolve, that she gave him his orders to seek and destroy anything that is an enemy to Hellsing and the Crown, including any obstacles in his way.
Being one of the major players in the Battle of London. The world suddenly finds itself gripped in bloodshed on a global scale as the machination of Major Montana Max finally come to a culmination. Vampire agents had infiltrated governments of the world at every level and threw them into chaos and wide spread destruction as the Major and his 1000 vampire troops attacked London proper. Along with the 13th Crusade of the Vatican, London quickly becomes a sea of spilt blood and defiled flesh with Integra lost in the middle. She must leave Walter behind, potentially losing one of her most trusted servants, friends and her essential father figure and must carry on. She stands up against being pursued by Nazi supersoldiers, giving them as good as she gets during the whole chase before being "saved" by Alexander Anderson and his contingent, who are on orders to capture her. Not only is her composure not even ruffled, but she actually brow beats them into being her protection as she stubbornly continues onwards back to the Hellsing mansion. And when the battle reaches a fever pitch, with her, Seras and Alucard staring down Vatican and Nazi forces that far outnumber them, standing in the blood of the innocent, she doesn't have a qualm with unleashing Alucard's true power (which results in the re-animation of every live devoured by the vampire, a literal river of blood flowing through London and becoming an army of the undead) on the enemy combatants. And when Walter reveals himself to have been a mole for Max since before she had even been born and that he was the one behind much of the misfortune that had befallen her life in the recent past? Though hurt she shows her grit and resolve, ordering his death for his treason and leaving Alucard behind to fight as she goes to finish off Max and end this hellish nightmare in the land she calls home.
The seeming death of Alucard is another thing that made her resolve seem to slip, but she once again carried on, ignoring one of her eyes being ruined by Max's stray bullet and putting him down like the mad dog he was.

And even after the passing of thirty years she hasn't become less of the pinnacle of will, class and resolve that she had set out to become at the tender age of 12. At 52 her mind is just as much of a steel trap and her skills, mundane skills that let her fight vampires and monsters of god on even terms, were still superior to the young bucks of the new generation that had come to fruition in the intermittent decades between the end of the Battle of London and the return of Alucard from total oblivion.

If she is not a sterling example of a strong, independent female lead in fiction who is in no way inferior to any of her male compatriots and opposite numbers (and is even superior to many of them), than I don't know what you could say is.

LokeyITP
2013-08-19, 06:46 PM
Film: M (Dench, Bond films)
Literature: Eliza (The Baroque Cycle, Stephenson)
TV: Kelly (Misfits)
Free: Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon; Michelle Yeoh's character)

tensai_oni
2013-08-19, 06:59 PM
I think we either crossed the 80 character threshold or are very near to crossing it. Just saying.

Haleyintraining
2013-08-19, 07:21 PM
I think we either crossed the 80 character threshold or are very near to crossing it. Just saying.

We're at 95, if my quick count is correct (although I might have missed some of the duplicates if multiple people nominated the same character).

Ninjadeadbeard
2013-08-19, 08:48 PM
Character: Kreia, aka Darth Traya, aka Arren Kae
Work: Star Wars, Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m23agwylGx1r8iy24o1_500.jpg

Best written character of all time?

Weimann
2013-08-19, 09:16 PM
Not sure if I'm late or not, but since no one else has mentioned them, I am obligated by law.

Animation: Azula, from Avatar: the Last Airbender.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/8056/2383622-azula_is_a_spoiled_brat_by_aries888.jpg

Finn Solomon
2013-08-19, 09:22 PM
Here are your nominations so far! Due to increased interest, I will be increasing the number of nominees up to 100, after which the nominations will stop. If you're nominating anyone after this list, please start your count from the last number.

1. Lisbeth Salander
2. Death of the Endless
3. Chihiro
4. Marla Singer
5. River Tam
6. Commander Jane Shepard
7. Professor River Song
8. Lilly Satou
9. Erza
10. Lightning
11. Kerrigan
12. Samus Aran (2009 Best Female in the Playground 2nd Runner Up)
13. Ha Yuri Zahard
14. The Boss
15. Echo
16. Penny
17. Professor Minerva McGonagall
18. Saria
19. Black Widow
20. Kaylee Frye
21. Skyler White
22. Tulip O'Hare
23. Clarice Sterling
24. Monzcarro Murcatto
25. Arya Stark
26. Harley Quinn
27. Atia of the Julii
28. Mulan
29. Ellen Ripley
30. Lara Croft
31. Hit Girl
32. The Wicked Witch of the West
33. Ronica Vestrit
34. Granny Weatherwax (2009 Best Female in the Playground Runner Up)
35. Agatha Heterodyne
36. Balsa
37. Tomoko Kuroki
38. Tali'Zorah nar Rayya vas Neema vas Normandy
39. Mami Tomoe
40. Hanako Ikezawa
41. Sophie Hatter
42. Antimony Carver
43. Katara
44. Taylor Herbert
45. Holo the Wise Wolf
46. Akemi Homura
47. Rin Tezuka
48. Kato Marika
49. Sumiregawa Nenene
50. Jessica Fletcher
51. Princess Leia
52. Selina Kyle
53. Jade
54. Verin Mathwin
55. Aeryn Sun
56. Susan Ivanova
57. Eowyn
58. The Lady of Black Company
59. Nico Minoru
60. Kallen Kozuki
61. Jaheira
62. Amanda Waller
63. Saber
64. Holly Short
65. Willow Rosenberg
66. Weiss Schnee
67. Amelia Pond
68. Celes Chere
69. Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
70. Naoto Shirogane
71. Mitsuru Kirijo
72. Labrys
73. Toph Bei Fong (2009 Best Female in the Playground Grand Champion)
74. Margarita
75. Laurana Kanan
76. Agent 99
77. April O'Neil
78. Visas Marr
79. Cersei Lannister
80. Kim Possible
81. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)
82. Lenneth Valkyrie
83. Nina Myers
84. Edward Wong Hau Pepelu Tivrusky IV (She's a girl? Huh)
85. Ellen Ripley
86. C. J. Cregg
87. Ellie
88. Kino
89. Susannah Dean
90. Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Holy cow, I always thought he was a dude)
91. M
92. Eliza
93. Kelly
94. Yu Shu Lien
95. Kreia
96. Azula
97. Elizabeth Bennett
98. Viola
99. Jadzia Dax
100. Mako Mori

EDIT: Nominations are closed!

snoopy13a
2013-08-19, 09:39 PM
This list needs some old-fashioned comedy and romance.

97. Literature
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice)

98. Play and/or Wild Card
Viola (Twelfth Night)

SaintRidley
2013-08-19, 09:45 PM
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30500000/Jadzia-Dax-jadzia-dax-30538006-323-539.jpg

Jadzia Dax, Star Trek: Deep Space 9

CarpeGuitarrem
2013-08-19, 09:52 PM
Well then, let me wrap it up with Mako Mori from Pacific Rim.

ArlEammon
2013-08-19, 10:33 PM
http://girlslikegiants.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/how-to-be-awesome-like-jessica-fletcher-%E2%80%A6/

I have no idea if this blog means anything to anyone, but the fact that she was never a sex symbol during the Murder She Wrote Run, and yet was a real person with real wants, skills and competency, makes her a great female character in my book.

Finn Solomon
2013-08-19, 10:45 PM
VOTING - ROUND ONE

Here's how it works. The girls have been randomised, so look through each pairing and vote for the character you'd like to win. Not who you think would win in a fight, just who you like better. Then indicate your choice like so in your own post.

Somebody vs Someone
Anybody vs Noone

or

Somebody
Anybody
Someone

Etc. You don't have to vote for a match up if you feel you don't know the characters involved, although part of the fun of this tournament is discovering new characters. Feel free to write reasons why you're voting for a particular character. I'll check back to tally the votes in five days. So without further ado...

LET'S GET READY TO RRRRRRRRRRRRRRUMBLE!

First Ten

A water bender versus a Catwoman, and the battle of the Ms!

Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit) vs Tulip O'Hare (Preacher)
Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice & Wolf) vs The Boss (Metal Gear Solid)
The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Mako Mori (Pacific Rim) vs M (James Bond)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Second Ten

Two literary heroes, one Eastern and one Western, collide.

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad) vs Visas Marr (Knights of the Old Republic 2)
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Marla Singer (Fight Club)
Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)
Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings) vs Nico Minoru (Runaways)
Sumiregawa Nenene (Read or Die) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)

Third Ten

One impossibly cute student from Osaka versus one impossibly cute red-headed homeless shelter volunteer. The Persona Girls make their mark.

Naoto Shirogane (Persona 4) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh) vs Penny (Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog)
Mitsuru Kirijo (Persona 3) vs Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)
The Lady (Black Company) vs Kelly (Misfits)
Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars) vs Hanako Ikezawa (Katawa Shoujo)

Fourth Ten

The Gunslinger versus The Shieldmaiden of Rohan, a Valkyrie versus a Pond.

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
Lenneth Valkyrie (The Valkyrie) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Saria (Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
Ellie (The Last of Us) vs Clarice Sterling (Silence of the Lambs)

Fifth Ten

Two literary icons go head to head against two wildly popular modern day characters.

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Hit Girl (Kick Ass) vs Nina Myers (24)
Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Sixth Ten

Oh my word I wasn't expecting this, the battle of the b*tches!

Labrys (Persona 4) vs Lisbeth Salander (The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo)
Celes Chere (Final Fantasy) vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Lilly Satou (Katawa Shoujo) vs Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle)
Verin Mathwin (Wheel of Time) vs River Tam (Firefly)

Seventh Ten

A bodacious space pirate takes on a Faceless Man-in-training.

Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5) vs Mami Tomoe (Puella Magi)
C. J. Cregg (The West Wing) vs Margarita (The Master and the Margarita)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Akemi Homura (Puella Magi)
Monzcarro Murcatto (Best Served Cold) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)
Kato Marika (Bodacious Space Pirates) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Eighth Ten

A girl genius goes up against King Arthur herself!

Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Harley Quinn (Batman)
Lightning (Final Fantasy 13) vs Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!)
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) vs Saber (Fate Stay Night)
Ha Yuri Zahard (Tower of God) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs April O'Neil (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)

Ninth Ten

I think one of these matchups will be the toughest choice yet.

Jaheira (Forgotten Realms) vs [DATA EXPUNGED]
Jade (Beyond Good or Evil) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court) vs Kim Possible (Kim Possible)
Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)
Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics) vs Taylor 'Skitter' Hebert (Worm Web)

Final Ten

The battle of the Professors!

Weiss Schnee (RBWY) vs Eliza (The Baroque Cycle)
Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Agent 99 (Get Smart)

"Go and vote, it will make you feel big and strong." - Bob Schieffer

SuperPanda
2013-08-20, 12:41 AM
First Ten




The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Mako Mori (Pacific Rim) vs M (James Bond)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Ed of Cowboy Bebop is just too much fun. Wicked's witch really depends on the version of her for me, and in Oz I felt the characterization wasn't particularly strong for her - but I haven't watched it in forever. Musical Wicked might have one, book Wicked would have lost by default to anything (didn't like anyone in the novel).

M and her bull dog desk toy were amazingly awesome. So much character packed into that role.

The last one was a big toss up, but I really loved how Katara could be girly and badass, powerful and femine without needing to be a male fanasy as the same time. Yeah, she was Aang's love intrest through the series, but that was despite her character rather than a part of it.

Second Ten



Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)

Oh... that's evil. I love both characters... I'll have to pass because I can't vote for both of them.

Sumiregawa Nenene vs Ellen Ripley

Fourth Ten


Lenneth Valkyrie vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino

Sassy red-head who crashed the TARDIS by wearing a miniskirt and The Head-witch which the witches certainly haven't got because she doesn't approve of witches having head-witches and they don't want to upset the head-witch.



Fifth Ten



Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)

Awesome and strong while still being feminine.

Jadzia Dax vs Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing

my innner treky has claimed one vote foritself.

Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher

Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Another had choice here as PnP had a good story, I'd got with Azula for being a high-functioning sociopath (up until the very end) who was obviouly aware of her physical beauty but completely unaware that she could be considered an object by any lesser mortal.


Sixth Ten


Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Lilly Satou (Katawa Shoujo) vs Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle)

No vote for River because I'm not sure I like the implications of River's powers / kick-ass-i-tude. Strange men buy her from her parents and exploit her in all kinds of painful ways... and this turns her into a superhuman killing machine and psychic. Now the extreme mental trauma that comes with that just adds another flavor of disturbing to the whole thing for me.



Seventh Ten


Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Akemi Homura
Kato Marika vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)


Eighth Ten

Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) vs Saber (Fate Stay Night)

Saber was a well done character in general... but I don't like that making her a girl pretty much only happened to turn her into a love interest for the main character.


Ninth Ten


Jaheira vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
Jade (Beyond Good or Evil) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Final Ten

Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)

River would have won if this only included her appearancs up through Season 5 of NuWho, but I felt her character arc got worse as it went on until I lost my love of the character... which is a Shame because the River Song introduced in Silence in the Library would have won this hands down.

Zevox
2013-08-20, 01:11 AM
First Ten
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Love Avatar, never been a fan of Catwoman. Easy choice.

Third Ten
Naoto Shirogane vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Mitsuru Kirijo vs Yu Shu Lien

Do I even need to mention why I'm voting for these two? I'm only the guy who nominated them, after all. And heck, as brought up before, discussing why I like one of them would be spoiler-iffic as hell.

Fourth Ten
Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)

I'm a big LotR fan, so Eowyn's one I'll vote for. Simple enough.

Fifth Ten
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Again, big Avatar fan, and Azula is a personal favorite from the show. She's just such a great villain, clever and strong in equal measure. On top of that I'm kind of prejudiced (no pun intended) against anything connected to Jane Austen, after trying to read Northanger Abbey proved to me that it is actually physically possible to bore someone to sleep. No, that's not a joke or hyperbole, I'm completely serious.

Sixth Ten
Labrys vs Lisbeth Salander (The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo)

Again, no mystery here - I nominated her, after all. And hell, she's a big part of the reason why Persona 4 Arena was my personal Game of the Year last year, the first time since I started keeping track that something besides an RPG has held that title.

Ninth Ten

Jade (Beyond Good or Evil) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Again, I nominated her, so no surprise. This is a rare case where I'm actually familiar with her opponent though - and it doesn't make the decision any harder, honestly, since I found Beyond Good and Evil to be pretty mediocre, and Jade herself never struck me as an impressive character.

Final Ten

Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)

Tali was a very likeable character in Mass Effect. I don't like her nearly as much as some many others - heck, she wouldn't even be my favorite female character from Mass Effect (that'd be Jack) - but I certainly like her more than I expect I could ever like Lara Croft.
Sheesh, there's so many characters in here that I'm completely unfamiliar with. Though I guess that should be expected, since I'm a big video game player, but not especially big on the other mediums being drawn from here. I did pass up voting for some characters I am familiar with though, like Princess Leia or Mulan, usually because I don't like the character quite enough to be willing to vote for them despite not knowing anything about their opponent.

I did contemplate actively voting against one, but eh, I'll leave that for if she actually gets out of the first couple of rounds, which I wouldn't be too surprised if she doesn't.

RCgothic
2013-08-20, 02:40 AM
Is Ellen Ripley in there twice?

A lot of good choices going out in this first round. Personally I think I'd have said 'Pick 5' from the groups of 10.

First Ten

Balsa
Holo the Wise Wolf
Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
M (James Bond)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Second Ten

Visas Marr (Knights of the Old Republic 2)
Echo
Mulan (Legend, Disney)
Nico Minoru (Runaways)
Sumiregawa Nenene

Third Ten

Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
Yu Shu Lien
The Lady (Black Company)
Princess Leia (Star Wars)

Fourth Ten

Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld)
Saria
Clarice Sterling (Silence of the Lambs)

Fifth Ten

Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Hit Girl (Kick Ass)
Jadzia Dax
Samus Aran (Metroid)
Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Sixth Ten



Labrys
Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Lilly Satou (Katawa Shoujo)
River Tam (Firefly)

Seventh Ten

Susan Ivanova
C. J. Cregg (The West Wing)
Chihiro (Spirited Away)
Monzcarro Murcatto
Kato Marika

Eighth Ten

Kallen Kozuki
Tomoko Kuroki
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
Ha Yuri Zahard
Aeryn Sun (Farscape)

Ninth Ten


Ellen Ripley (Alien)
Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court)
Erza
Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics)

Final Ten

Weiss Schnee (RBWY)
Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)
Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo)

Silva Stormrage
2013-08-20, 03:24 AM
First Ten

Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice & Wolf) vs The Boss (Metal Gear Solid)
The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Mako Mori (Pacific Rim) vs M (James Bond)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Second Ten


Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)


Third Ten

Naoto Shirogane (Persona 4) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh) vs Penny (Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog)
Princess Leia (Star Wars) vs Hanako Ikezawa (Katawa Shoujo)

Fourth Ten



Lenneth Valkyrie (The Valkyrie) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)


Fifth Ten


Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Hit Girl (Kick Ass) vs Nina Myers
Jadzia Dax vs Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Sixth Ten


Seventh Ten


Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Akemi Homura


Eighth Ten

Kallen Kozuki vs Harley Quinn (Batman)
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) vs Saber (Fate Stay Night)
Ha Yuri Zahard vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)


Ninth Ten


Jade (Beyond Good or Evil) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Erza vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)


Final Ten

Weiss Schnee (RBWY) vs Eliza
Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)

Eldan
2013-08-20, 03:34 AM
First ten:
Well, that was easy. That was, like, five cases where I knew both characters.



1. Balsa.
She's well written. I know Preacher, but honestly, it's just not that good.

2. Holo
Don't know MGS, like Spice and Wolf. Easy.

3. Radical Edward
How anyone could vote against Bebop is beyond me, even if she's probably the least interesting of the core cast. Plus, no one in the Wizard of Oz has much character, really.

4. M
Pacific Rim really isn't a deep movie.

5. Selina Kyle
Don't know either well, but I tried watching Avatar and found it incredibly grating on my nerves.


Second ten:

1. -
No idea. Never heard of them.

2. Marla Singer
Not a great character, really, but I don't know Dollhouse.

3. Mulan
I guess. Again, a case of character I know vs. character I don't.

4. Ronica Vestrit
And again, but this time I actually like one of them.

5. Ellen Ripley
See the last three.


Third ten:

1. -
?

2. -
I like Doctor Horrible, sure. But Penny doesn't really have too much of a personality, so I don't feel comfortable voting for her. Don't know the other.

3. Yu Shu Lien.
Again, only know one of them.

4. -
Kelly who?

5. -
Nah. Never finished any of the Star Wars movies, they bore me. Never even heard of the other.


Fourth ten:

1. Eowyn
Honestly just mildly interesting, since characterization is not LotR's greatest strength, but I haven't read the Dark Tower.

2. Amelia Pond
Again, don't know the other, but at least I'm comfortable voting for Amy.

3. Granny Weatherwax
I nominated her and don't know the other.

4. -
Saria has character? No one in Zelda has much character!

5. Clarice Sterling
Haven't played Last of Us, yet, either.


Fifth Ten:

1. Kaylee Frye
Because she actually has a character.

2. Hit Girl
And another "Who's that opposing her?" moment.

3. -
Integra is not all that interesting and I don't know the other.

4. -
Another case where I don't know either all that well.

5. -
Meh.


Sixth Ten:

1. -
Guess.

2. Jane Shephard
I randomly made my Jane Shephard black and never played a male shep, so whenever I see a male Shephard, it just looks strange.

3. Cersei Lannister
Hey, an actual challenge. Book Cersei would probably lose. But since I've seen the series, I actually like her, a bit.

4. Sophie Hatter
Ghibli wins. No contestl.

5. River Tam
And another "who's that".


Seventh Ten:
1. -
And another "who's that".

2. -
And another "who's that".

3. Chihiro
And another "who's that".

4. Death of the Endless
Because, well. Who else.

5. Arya Stark
And another "who's that". Plus my nomination.

Eight Ten:
1. Kallen Kozuki
Difficult, this one. Like her more.

2. -
And another "who's that?"

3. Agatha Heterodyne
And another "who's that". Plus Agatha is a ton of fun.

4. -
Nope.

5. Aeryn Sun
Not a Turtles fan, even if I know her.

Ninth:

1. -
Ripley Clone! Ripley Clone! This one shouldn't count.

2. Jade
Another case of the character I know vs. the one I don't.

3. -
Don't know either.

4. -
Don't know either. One doesn't have her origin labelled.

5. Taylor Hebert.
She needs votes. She's my pick for winner.


Tenth Ten:

1. Eliza
I don't even know which Eliza this is, but bad fake German hurts my brain.

2. Minerva McGonagall
Not all that deep. But I came to really dislike River Song in her later appearances.

3. Tali'Zorah
I mean, perhaps the new game really changes that, but Lara doesn't have character. Just assets.

4. Willow Rosenberg
Haven't played KotoR, but not a fan of Star Wars in general.

5. -
Don't know either.

Kato
2013-08-20, 04:11 AM
Okay, let's rumble then!

First Ten

Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice & Wolf) vs The Boss (Metal Gear Solid)
Haven't seen much of S&W but it's The Boss, come on.
The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
I don't think she'll make it far but better than the witch anytime.
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)
I don't even know which Catwoman this is... easy win for Katara.

Second Ten

Echo (Dollhouse) vs Marla Singer (Fight Club)
I don't care that much about either of them but Echo's slightly ahead
Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)
Meh, I like her well enough.
Sumiregawa Nenene (Read or Die) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
No hardly anything about RoD but it's Ellen Ripley. Definitely one for the finals.


Third Ten


Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh) vs Penny (Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog)
I don't know Osaka that well but.. I'll leave that open for now.
(huh, few notes here... And yeah, I'm not going to vote for Leia. Sue me :smalltongue:)

Fourth Ten

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
About the one girl who does something in LotR...
Lenneth Valkyrie (The Valkyrie) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)
Pretty sure Granny won the last Girls only tournament... or got into the finals, at least.
Ellie (The Last of Us) vs Clarice Sterling (Silence of the Lambs)
Haven't played Last of Us... so I guess I'll leave that open, too.


Fifth Ten

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Kaywinnet Lee, please :smalltongue:
Hit Girl (Kick Ass) vs Nina Myers
She was pretty good... we'll have to see if the second movie ruins her.
Jadzia Dax vs Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)
Damn, two people I REALLY like... but Integra easily wins, still.
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
It's been forever since I saw anything with Fletcher... but Samus, again, is probably going to to make it far.
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)
That could actually be interesting... for people who have more interest in Jane Austen books. For me it's easy.


Sixth Ten

Celes Chere vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Okay, knowing the ME fandom this may be the only vote for Celes but I love her anyway. Someone could at least put FF VI behind her name, really...
Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Wow, battle of the bitches indeed... Too hard to pick, really.
Verin Mathwin vs River Tam (Firefly)

Seventh Ten

Susan Ivanova vs Mami Tomoe
What's with the lack of sources? Babylon Five vs Puella Magika Madoka, come on. I actually didn't like Mami that much, meh.
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Akemi Homura
Okay, PMMM gets my vote on this one.
Kato Marika vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
Yeah... even with the name, I'll have to admit, I didn't like Bodacious that much.

Eighth Ten

Kallen Kozuki vs Harley Quinn (Batman)
Harley is fun and all... close one, but Kallen kicked quite some ass.
Lightning vs Tomoko Kuroki
I'll have to admit to not knowing WataMote... but I don't like Lightning THAT much.
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) vs Saber (Fate Stay Night)
Kind of the same for Saber here...
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs April O'Neil (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)
Ugh... two very nostalgic ones. I guess April gets my vote because she's more nostalgic?


Ninth Ten

Jaheira vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
WAIT. Ellen again? She's good but not that good :smallconfused:
Jade (Beyond Good or Evil) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Melon Lord!
Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court) vs Kim Possible (Kim Possible)
Meh, the show wasn't that bad.
Erza vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)
Assuming this is Erza Scarlet....


Final Ten


Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Not that easy as I kind of like both but don't love either of them... I just like Who more than Potter.
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)
Meh, Kreia wasn't that interesting... not bad but no Willow.



Okay, so... what's with the lack of sources on some of them? Just assuming we know where they are from?

And... why is Ripley twice in there?

endoperez
2013-08-20, 04:55 AM
For some characters, I've indicated the series in Italics, when I thought it'd be easier to place them or avoids confusion.


First Ten

A water bender versus a Catwoman, and the battle of the Ms!

Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit) vs Tulip O'Hare (Preacher)
Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice & Wolf) vs The Boss (Metal Gear Solid)
The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Mako Mori (Pacific Rim) vs M (James Bond)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Second Ten

Two literary heroes, one Eastern and one Western, collide.

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad) vs Visas Marr (Knights of the Old Republic 2)
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Marla Singer (Fight Club)
Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)
Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings) vs Nico Minoru (Runaways)
Sumiregawa Nenene (Read or Die) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)

Third Ten

One impossibly cute student from Osaka versus one impossibly cute red-headed homeless shelter volunteer. The Persona Girls make their mark.

Naoto Shirogane (Persona 4) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh) vs Penny (Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog)
Mitsuru Kirijo (Persona 3) vs Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)
The Lady (Black Company) vs Kelly
Princess Leia (Star Wars) vs Hanako Ikezawa (Katawa Shoujo)

Fourth Ten

The Gunslinger versus The Shieldmaiden of Rohan

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
Lenneth Valkyrie (The Valkyrie Chronicles) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Saria (Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
Ellie (The Last of Us) vs Clarice Sterling (Silence of the Lambs)

Fifth Ten

Two literary icons go head to head against two wildly popular modern day characters.

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Hit Girl (Kick Ass) vs Nina Myers (24)
Jadzia Dax (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine) vs Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Sixth Ten

Oh my word I wasn't expecting this, the battle of the b*tches!

Labrys (Persona 4) vs Lisbeth Salander (The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo)
Celes Chere vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Lilly Satou (Katawa Shoujo) vs Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle)
Verin Mathwin (Wheel of Time) vs River Tam (Firefly)

Seventh Ten

A bodacious space pirate takes on a Faceless Man-in-training.

Susan Ivanova vs Mami Tomoe
C. J. Cregg (The West Wing) vs Margarita (The Master and the Margarita)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Akemi Homura
Monzcarro Murcatto vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)
Kato Marika(Bodacious Space Pirates) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

I decided not to vote for two characters from Puella Magi Madoka Magica, and chose Mami over Homura because knowing about Mami spoils less about the series. A bit meta, but then, so is only voting for one of them.

Eighth Ten

A girl genius goes up against King Arthur herself!

Kallen Kozuki vs Harley Quinn (Batman)
Lightning vs Tomoko Kuroki
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) vs Saber (Fate Stay Night)
Ha Yuri Zahard vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs April O'Neil (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)

Ninth Ten

I think one of these matchups will be the toughest choice yet.

Jaheira vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
Jade (Beyond Good or Evil) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court) vs Kim Possible (Kim Possible)
Erza (Fairy Tail) vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)
Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics) vs Taylor Herbert

Wow, you weren't kidding, some of these were very tough!

It seems impossible to find any information on Taylor Hebert (no 'r', it was my mistake on the original suggestion) because it's such a normal name. Listing her as Taylor "Skitter" Hebert would let people to find some info about her. Sorry, I'm a fan. :smalltongue:

Final Ten

The battle of the Professors!

Weiss Schnee (RBWY) vs Eliza
Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Agent 99

Tanuki Tales
2013-08-20, 05:47 AM
First Ten


The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

As will be the trend for me in this competition, I'm only weighing in when I'm aware enough of characters to make an informed decision. Even if I read up on other characters, I feel like I'd need to get into the fiction to fully understand them enough to judge.

I chose Ed because WWW only really becomes interesting in the peripheral and non-canonical Oz works (such as Wicked and Oz: The Great and Powerful) and I don't see it as fair to use such an amalgated version to judge the character.

I chose Selina Kyle because she's just more interesting to me than Katara.


Second Ten

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad) vs Visas Marr (Knights of the Old Republic 2)
Sumiregawa Nenene (Read or Die) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)

I love both Visas and Ripley, but I find their match ups more interesting unfortunately.

Third Ten

No opinions here.

Fourth Ten


Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)


I'm breaking my own rule here, but only because I'd find it hard to vote for anyone over ol' Esme. She's the reason I refused to finish Equal Rites after all.

Fifth Ten

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Jadzia Dax vs Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Kaylee is just a bubbly ray of sunshine who always made me laugh and always made me feel warm inside. I can't really say I've ever been that attached to Natasha.

Well, I made the case for Integra, so do you think I wouldn't vote for her unless she was up against someone spectacular? :smallwink:

In all seriousness, I kind of liked Jadzia but then I didn't. Deep Space Nine is my favorite Trek series, but I always found that Jadzia was more riding the coat tails of Kurzon (who sounded infinitely more interesting) and kind of only existed to finally give Worf a woman (for a time) and Alexander another mother figure. Her actress never made her really fit as anything more than, "Let's make a female character who's really more of a colorful old man who's as good or better than a lot of the guys and is just one of the guys! That'll totally work!"

The next two are just mismatches. I went with my gut with Samus and I feel like Azula was a bit too one dimensional to stand up against Elizabeth.

Sixth Ten


Celes Chere vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)


Breaking my rule again, but this time for the opposite. The default Shepard is male and all the rumors I've come across having Shepard be male for the eventual movie. So I feel like the compelling and interesting things that could be attributed to Shepard (and not his/her players) are rightfully the merits of the male Shepard and not the female Shepard, who is more a reflection and nothing more. *shrugs*

Seventh Ten

I don't know enough people here.

Eighth Ten


Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs April O'Neil (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)

80s April O'Neil was not very interesting in my eyes compared to the epic space opera that was Farscape.

Ninth Ten



Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court) vs Kim Possible (Kim Possible)


I love Kim, but Antimony is definitely more interesting.

And why was Ripley listed twice?

Final Ten

The battle of the Professors!


Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)

I hate Matt Smith. I hate him for being what we were expected to watch after both Eccleston and Tennant. I have absolutely refused to even finish Tennant's run until I've watch Doctors 1 through 8 (I'm a good deal into the Third's tenure right now). But even I know Song is more interesting than McGonagall.

Lara Croft always bored me to be honest, so Tali is a no-brainer.

Willow is another favorite of mine who I feel was matched against someone she can't hold a candle to.

Tengu_temp
2013-08-20, 06:31 AM
First Ten

Having to choose between Holo and The Boss? Gah! I'll go with Holo because I suspect she's less popular.
Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit) vs Tulip O'Hare (Preacher)
Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice & Wolf) vs The Boss (Metal Gear Solid)
The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Mako Mori (Pacific Rim) vs M (James Bond)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Second Ten

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad) vs Visas Marr (Knights of the Old Republic 2)
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Marla Singer (Fight Club)
Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)
Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings) vs Nico Minoru (Runaways)
Sumiregawa Nenene (Read or Die) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)

Third Ten

Naoto Shirogane (Persona 4) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh) vs Penny (Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog)
Mitsuru Kirijo (Persona 3) vs Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)
The Lady (Black Company) vs Kelly
Princess Leia (Star Wars) vs Hanako Ikezawa (Katawa Shoujo)

Fourth Ten

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
Lenneth Valkyrie (The Valkyrie) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Saria (Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
Ellie (The Last of Us) vs Clarice Sterling (Silence of the Lambs)

Fifth Ten

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Hit Girl (Kick Ass) vs Nina Myers
Jadzia Dax vs Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Sixth Ten

Celes vs Shep? Gah again! No vote on this one.
Labrys (Persona 4) vs Lisbeth Salander (The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo)
Celes Chere vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Lilly Satou (Katawa Shoujo) vs Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle)
Verin Mathwin vs River Tam (Firefly)

Seventh Ten

Susan Ivanova vs Mami Tomoe
C. J. Cregg (The West Wing) vs Margarita (The Master and the Margarita)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Akemi Homura
Monzcarro Murcatto vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)
Kato Marika vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Eighth Ten

Lightning vs Mokocchi? Agatha vs Saber? Holy tough choices Batman! Not gonna pick any of those yet.
Kallen Kozuki vs Harley Quinn (Batman)
Lightning vs Tomoko Kuroki
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) vs Saber (Fate Stay Night)
Ha Yuri Zahard vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs April O'Neil (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)

Ninth Ten

Jade vs Toph. Come on.
Jaheira vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
Jade (Beyond Good or Evil) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court) vs Kim Possible (Kim Possible)
Erza vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)
Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics) vs Taylor Herbert

Final Ten

Weiss Schnee (RBWY) vs Eliza
Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Agent 99

I'll probably make my mind on some of the choices I didn't make yet, later.

Also, Ripley is on the list twice.

tensai_oni
2013-08-20, 06:33 AM
First Ten
Augh! Why you make me choose between Holo and the Boss so early? No vote.
Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit) vs Tulip O'Hare (Preacher)
The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Mako Mori (Pacific Rim) vs M (James Bond)

Second Ten
No real preferences here. I was torn on Nenene vs Ripley, but in the end not voting.

Third Ten

Naoto Shirogane (Persona 4) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh) vs Penny (Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog)
Mitsuru Kirijo (Persona 3) vs Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)
Princess Leia (Star Wars) vs Hanako Ikezawa (Katawa Shoujo)

Fourth Ten
Once again. Kino vs Granny? y u do dis
... Granny it is.

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
Lenneth Valkyrie (The Valkyrie) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)
Ellie (The Last of Us) vs Clarice Sterling (Silence of the Lambs)

Fifth Ten
Literary classic vs video game classic.
Sorry, I was always a Samus fan.


Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)


Sixth Ten
Celes vs Shep. Why do you make me choose?
... No vote.

Labrys (Persona 4) vs Lisbeth Salander (The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo)
Lilly Satou (Katawa Shoujo) vs Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle)

Seventh Ten
Hey, first group where I can find a preferred candidate in all matchups.

Susan Ivanova vs Mami Tomoe
C. J. Cregg (The West Wing) vs Margarita (The Master and the Margarita)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Akemi Homura
Monzcarro Murcatto vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)
Kato Marika vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Eighth Ten
Looks like Mokocchi ain't getting out of the elimination round. No matter how you look at it, it's your fault she won't win! (Yes, even if she does win with Lightning)

Kallen Kozuki vs Harley Quinn (Batman)
Lightning vs Tomoko Kuroki


Ninth Ten
Why is Ripley here again?

Jaheira vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
Erza vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)

Final Ten
I ran out of witty things to say.


Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Agent 99

Avilan the Grey
2013-08-20, 07:06 AM
Some of these images are LARGE!

Literature:

Isana, Codex Alera

Comics:

Power Girl, pre New52
http://backissuebin.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/power-girl-v2-1.jpg

Animation:

Sgt. Calhoun, Wreck-it Ralph
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121111204805/protagonist/images/1/18/Detona-Ralph-31.jpeg

Movies:

Layla, Sky High
http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv265/Sky_High_Bucket/Danielle%20Panabaker%20as%20Layla%20Williams/skyhigh5076.jpg

TV:

Pippilotta Viktualia Rullgardina Krusmynta Efraimsdotter Lĺngstrump, Pippi Longstocking
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8207/8198329431_211c86ba70_o_d.jpg

Video Games:

Jack, Mass Effect 3
http://i47.tinypic.com/2crk5k8.jpg

Free Pick #1:

Commander Shepard, Mass Effect 3

http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/08/Mass-Effect-3-the-real-female-shepard.jpg

Free Pick #2:

Sarah Walker, Chuck
http://media.ove.cybermage.se/2010/07/Sarah-Walker-Chuck-female-ass-kickers-4056147-2560-1707.jpg

Tengu_temp
2013-08-20, 07:10 AM
You're a bit late to the party, nominations are over. We're voting now!

Avilan the Grey
2013-08-20, 07:29 AM
Fine. Was a damn short admission period I must say.

Kitten Champion
2013-08-20, 07:39 AM
So, yeah.



Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
I only vaguely remember Preacher, but Balsa's such an interesting character within one of my favourite fantasy epics.

Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice & Wolf)
Holo's the better written of the two.

Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Fun and chaos incarnate, the wicked witch was just a sublimation of anxiety towards Dorothy's supposedly mean neighbour as far as I'm concerned. I'm surprised the person who voted for her didn't pick Dorothy.

M (James Bond)
Dame Judy Dench is awesome, and M really moved beyond archetypal boss lady in Skyfall.

Selina Kyle (Batman)
I've loved some written, televised, and movie versions of this character as much as I've hated others. I like morally ambiguous characters and ones with a strong sense of self esteem.

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad)
I don't know either.

Echo (Dollhouse)
Marla's not a terrible character, not a terrific one either. Echo simply had more growth and character development - as well as being the nominal hero of a bizarre SF action series.

I'm surprised no one voted in Buffy.

Mulan (Legend, Disney)
I don't care for Shakespeare's women, and Mulan is probably my favourite Disney movie and character in general - which is not elaborate praise - but still, she is. I like her reasoning, her ability to act, and the way the movie concluded.

Nico Minoru (Runaways)
She's an excellently made character in a comic series about well rounded characters who happen to have superpowers.

Ellen Ripley (Alien)
Weaver's journey from space trucker to beleaguered hero is still the best in movies.

Naoto Shirogane (Persona 4)
One of the best female characters in gaming, her identity issues were some of the better written in a game I'd praise highly.

Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh) vs Penny (Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog)
I've never seen Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog.

Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)
I loved her character in the movie, Mitsuru's a bit too archetypal compared to some of the better Persona characters.

The Lady (Black Company) vs Kelly
Kelly who?

Princess Leia (Star Wars) vs Hanako Ikezawa (Katawa Shoujo)
I like the premise to Katawa Shoujo but I haven't played it. I don't really like Leia as a character. So no vote.

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
I don't know. LotR characters are too simple for me, but I haven't read enough of The Dark Tower to compare.

Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
She and husband were the only companions I could stand, she's a well written character.

Kino (Kino's Journey)
I love Kino's subtle characterization and calm confidence. Granny Weatherwax got annoying after the second book.

Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance)
I'd prefer Goldmoon, but Saria doesn't have enough character to compare.

Ellie (The Last of Us)
My favourite video game character of any gender at the moment.

Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
I love the offbeat personality she was given, somewhere between starry-eyed girl and hay-chewing rustic turn amature tech genius.

Hit Girl (Kick Ass)
I like Nina, but Hit Girl is the best thing in those comics.

Jadzia Dax
I like how un-Star Trek she is, and I really felt terrible when she died.

Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
I love what Samus represents as an early game character, but she's better as a power fantasy guys and girls can revel in as a silent protagonist than as a character... apparently. I'd rather vote for Jane Marple since Murder She Wrote was a mediocre mystery show, but how can you not love Angela Lansbury in that role?

Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice)
One of the best characters from British literature, certainly one of the best female literary characters.

Labrys (Persona 4) vs Lisbeth Salander (The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo)
I don't know, haven't played P4 arena and I'm fairly ambivalent towards Lisbeth.

Celes Chere
I like her character arc. More to the point, Shepard is by its nature an inconsistent and over-glorified character. I suppose I prefer the results of linear story-telling with an interesting character than choose-your-own adventure loose characterization with a Mary Sue.

Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
I don't know. Skyler is better written but Cersei is more compelling conceptually.

Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle)
I love Wynn's protagonists, they're firm, strong, and yet subtle and quirky. Sophie in particularly resides in my heart.

Verin Mathwin (Wheel of Time)
I like the idea of River, but she more or less feels like a plot device much of the time. Verin gives credence to the idea that there's more than meets the eye to a person, and her story ends so surprisingly, it truly touched me.

Susan Ivanova
I like how she's portrayed, as an earnest and hardworking military officer with hidden depth. Mami feels like she existed to set up the show, for you to instantly grow to like her for the shock value.

C. J. Cregg (The West Wing)
One of the best women in television history, probably because she's based on an equally interesting real-life equivalent. Outside of the writing for the show being wonderful, she's such a likeable and human character. Her ability to speak truth to power, and hold her own under any situation, the show benefitted so much from her presence.

Akemi Homura
After going back and watching Madoka again, you realize just how well written her character was. Her capacity to hold your interest cannot be understated.

Monzcarro Murcatto vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)
I've yet to read Best Served Cold, and given that I love Joe Abercrombie I don't think it's fair to just jump to Death.

Kato Marika
I like the way she interacts with others more than the character herself, but I still appreciate her subtle development.

Harley Quinn (Batman)
I don't care for her current comic appearences in the least, but DCAU Harley is delightful with interesting dark overtones.

Lightning
As much as I don't like the mai waifu complex a certain employee working in Square Enix creative team seems to have for her, and wish she was put into a better video game, Lightning is still my favourite Final Fantasy character.

Saber (Fate Stay Night)
Taken out of the H-game stuff, I really like this character. I like the way she's balanced between the feminine with the chivalrous and develops as a character

Ha Yuri Zahard vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)
I haven't read Tower of God, or played Heart of the Swarm for that matter.

Aeryn Sun (Farscape)
I love this character, and my view of April is somewhat dimmed by the fact that she's always a damsel in distress in the original cartoons.

Ellen Ripley (Alien)
Again, for the reasons above.

Jade (Beyond Good or Evil)
I'd say this is just preference, I love Jade.

Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court) vs Kim Possible (Kim Possible)
Don't really know either really.

Erza vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)
I find Mashima's characters to be pretty thin, but I've never seen Rome before/

Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics)
Carol has had a lot of poorly written comics about her, but Captain Marvel in her current incarnation is wonderful.

Weiss Schnee (RBWY) vs Eliza
Do you mean Eliza Dolittle?

Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter)
I didn't like the River Song arc in the show, and Maggie Smith is awesome.

Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
I'm refraining from voting until I play the reboot.

Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)
Never played Kotor 2, I'm going to refrain here as well.

Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Agent 99
Haven't had any experience with either.

Finn Solomon
2013-08-20, 07:47 AM
Okay, so... what's with the lack of sources on some of them? Just assuming we know where they are from?

Sorry about that, I was updating the sources while in a lecture and the professor walked over.

Every character's updated to include their source, so you can do a search and see which girl is cooler. :smallwink:


And... why is Ripley twice in there?

Argh I totally should have caught that! Making an executive decision now to kick the Second Ripley out of the tournament, which means Jaheira of the Forgotten Realms gets a bye.

Show the good people how happy you are, Jaheira.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070428203344/forgottenrealms/images/5/5c/Jaheira_-_Baldur%27s_Gate_1.jpg

Keep voting! Interesting to see the results roll in. I'll put up a table soon so y'all can see what the standings are like so far.

Keep in mind - If you wanna change your vote, or add more votes now that you've gotten to know the characters better, please edit your ORIGINAL post, since that's what I will be looking at when I tally up all the votes.

pita
2013-08-20, 07:57 AM
First Ten
Mostly voting for the ones I know
Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit) vs Tulip O'Hare (Preacher)
Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice & Wolf) vs The Boss (Metal Gear Solid)
The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Mako Mori (Pacific Rim) vs M (James Bond)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Second Ten

One of those cases where I know most of the subjects.

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad) vs Visas Marr (Knights of the Old Republic 2)
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Marla Singer (Fight Club)
Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)
Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings) vs Nico Minoru (Runaways)
Sumiregawa Nenene (Read or Die) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)

Third Ten

I've got nothing here. I KNOW NOTHING, JON SNOW (and why did no one mention her?)

Fourth Ten

It's spelled Starling, actually. I know more characters in this group, I just don't like them.


Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)
Ellie (The Last of Us) vs Clarice Sterling (Silence of the Lambs)

Fifth Ten

The four characters I know are the ones fighting each other in this group.

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Hit Girl (Kick Ass) vs Nina Myers

Sixth Ten

I was kidding when I said Skyler, you people shouldn't take me seriously. Not a River Tam fan.


Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)

Seventh Ten

It's not fair to put one of my favorite literary characters up against another one of my favorite literary characters.

Monzcarro Murcatto vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)
Kato Marika vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Eighth Ten

For these purposes I'm assuming Brood War Kerrigan, not what happened to her in SC2


Ha Yuri Zahard vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)

Ninth Ten

Ellen Ripley appears to be listed twice. For fairness sake I'm voting for her rival this time. Assuming it's Jaheira from Baldur's Gate 2 and not Jaheira from Friends. God what a terrible character

Jaheira vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
Erza vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)

Final Ten

I'd vote for McGonagall, but I'd much rather be voting for Hermione instead. Can't believe I didn't think of her yesterday, she's the true protagonist of the series. It could be the Harry Potter series, and it could be the Hermione Granger Gets **** Done series

I made you open a spoiler for no reason.
ETA- Second ripley is out, Jaheira is in! Woo! Not editing my post, I accuse Finn of ninja'ing me

Hiro Protagonest
2013-08-20, 08:01 AM
First Ten

Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang The Last Airbender) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Fourth Ten

Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)

Fifth Ten

Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Sixth Ten

Celes Chere vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Verin Mathwin vs River Tam (Firefly)

Seventh Ten


Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Akemi Homura

Ninth Ten

Jade (Beyond Good or Evil) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang The Last Airbender)
Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court) vs Kim Possible (Kim Possible)
What's Captain Marvel doing in this? :smallconfused:

Final Ten

Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)

Terraoblivion
2013-08-20, 08:14 AM
First Ten
Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit) vs Tulip O'Hare (Preacher)
Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice & Wolf) vs The Boss (Metal Gear Solid)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)
I don't really have a whole lot of comments here. Balsa was the best part of Moribito, a show that I very much wanted to like, but which never clicked for me. And Holo was a very easy choice for me, given how unlike a lot of other people I didn't like The Boss very much, so having one of my all time favorite characters against her was trivially easy to choose.

Second Ten
Sumiregawa Nenene (Read or Die) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
Only one vote here and it feels kinda odd to vote against one of the most iconic characters of all time. That said, Nenene is an amazing character and one of the three that I identify strongly with and is in quite iconic in her own right, at least within the yuri fandom.

Third Ten
Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh) vs Penny (Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog)
Mitsuru Kirijo (Persona 3) vs Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)
Princess Leia (Star Wars) vs Hanako Ikezawa (Katawa Shoujo)
The main one I really have anything to say about here is, the Hanako vs Leia match. Hanako might have my least favorite route of Katawa Shoujo and might also be my least favorite character of the VN, but that doesn't mean that I don't like her and unlike Leia she actually has a real sense of character and identity. Also, as much as I love Naoto, I don't feel comfortable voting for her for reasons I gave back on page one.

Fourth Ten
Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)

Again just one vote, going to fan favorite Granny Weatherwax. I never really liked Kino's Journey that much and I feel that Kino as a character is drowned out by the sheer amount of allegory she gets hammered with all the time.

Edit: And the oni convinced me to vote for Susannah. Not like I particularly care about Eowyn either way.

Fifth Ten
Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)


Sixth Ten
Labrys (Persona 4) vs Lisbeth Salander (The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo)
Celes Chere vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Lilly Satou (Katawa Shoujo) vs Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle)

Labrys story might not be the most original, in fact it very much isn't, it was still told well and Labrys herself is both adorable and badass and an awesome enough robot that I named my computer after her. For Celes, I'll go with the greater consistent, actually being created to be female and having what might be the two best individual scenes in the entire Final Fantasy series. Finally, Lilly is once again not one of my favorites in Katawa Shoujo, but she's not only a likable person, her way of dealing with her life situation is both quite interesting and very understandable and easily a cut about what most fiction would do with it.

Seventh Ten
Susan Ivanova vs Mami Tomoe
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Akemi Homura
Kato Marika vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
Two characters from one of my favorite shows, including one of my absolutely favorite characters whose characterization only gets better with rewatches that show how beautifully it all fits together. On top of that, there is Marika who has some of the most subtle character development I've ever seen and some amazing friendships, making this an all-around amazing set for me. A character from a movie most remarkable for the setting, animation and artistry and a character for whom people confuse sociopathy with heroism really can't compete.

Eighth Ten
Lightning vs Tomoko Kuroki
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) vs Saber (Fate Stay Night)

And here come the two trickiest votes in the entire round for me. First we have one of my favorite video game characters, who is also one of my favorite heroic badasses against a character who is so effective at what they're made to be and so relatable for me that trying to read or watch her story makes me too depressed to continue. Next we have a character I don't like that much against a character I love and hate at the same time. While Saber as she is is awesome and I love her, the way both Fate/Zero and Fate/Stay Night treats her is despicable as far as I'm concerned and is an integral part of her, making it very hard to come to a decision.

Ninth Ten
Nothing here that I'm invested enough in to try to decide one way or another.

Final Ten

Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Agent 99
And finally an easy one. Tali is cool, funny and cute enough while also having some interesting plot that I doubt there's anything the new Tomb Raider could do to make Lara better than her. Similarly, pretty much any character is good enough that I'd vote for them to get the passive-aggressive, philosophically muddled jerk that's Kreia out of the turnament. And finally, Rin is my all time favorite character and after going through her route it took me a full week to digest it all.

bguy
2013-08-20, 08:32 AM
First Ten

The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Second Ten

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad) vs Visas Marr (Knights of the Old Republic 2)
Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)

Third Ten

Princess Leia (Star Wars) vs Hanako Ikezawa (Katawa Shoujo)

Fourth Ten

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Saria (Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)

Fifth Ten

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Jadzia Dax) vs Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)

Sixth Ten

Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)

Seventh Ten

Susan Ivanova vs Mami Tomoe
Kato Marika vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Eighth Ten

Kallen Kozuki vs Harley Quinn (Batman)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs April O'Neil (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)

Ninth Ten

Erza vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)

Final Ten

Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Agent 99

Dienekes
2013-08-20, 08:37 AM
I'm gonna try to only vote where I know both parties involved.

First Ten


The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Edward always annoyed me.
Mako Mori (Pacific Rim) vs M (James Bond)
Judi Dench always wins
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)
Katara was always the boring one of Team Avatar, and while Selina can be a mess of a character at times she has a few good stories under her belt.

Second Ten

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad) vs Visas Marr (Knights of the Old Republic 2)
The Wall is such a fun character it's hard to beat her.
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Marla Singer (Fight Club)
Marla wins this, I guess. She was an insane, fairly unlikeable hanger on, but Echo was boring. Point for Marla then.
Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)
Girl pretends to be a guy to go to war is more interesting to me than girl pretends to be a guy to deliver messages back and forth


Third Ten



Huh did not know one guy in each of the others. A bit annoying.
The Lady (Black Company) vs Kelly (Misfits)
Huh a bit of an odd verses. I don't think I finished either of these series. But I thought Kelly was the most interesting girl in her stories while I liked the Lady's sister more in hers, so I guess I give it to Kelly.

Fourth Ten

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)


Fifth Ten

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Dear God, Kaylee loses. I'm sorry her will they/won't they with Simon was the least interesting part of Firefly. How long does it take her to get the hint that Simon isn't good at talking to people? Jeez. Black Widow on the otherhand is one of the more badass characters in Marvel Comics.
Hit Girl (Kick Ass) vs Nina Myers (24)
Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing): Huh a weird one where I know both characters but don't really have an opinion either way.
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
Now that's just mean. I want both of these characters to make it to round two. I give it to Fletcher because Other M is I guess canonically part of Samus' character now.
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Elizabeth gets a lot of points for being a realistic and sarcastic strong willed woman without overdoing it to the point of nonsense as people are prone to do. And though Azula got less interesting at the end her high points were hilarious and devious and I like that in a villain.

Sixth Ten


Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Heh, I'm one who doesn't hate Skyler she's a normal person in a pretty ridiculous and impossible situation. But Cersei is just fun to watch whether she is being a manipulative bitch or completely insane.


Seventh Ten

Monzcarro Murcatto (Best Served Cold) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)
I am so sorry Monza. You're Abercrombie's best female character, but Death is one of my favorites.
Kato Marika (Bodacious Space Pirates) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
It annoys me so much I have never heard of Bodacious Space Pirates because I really want to vote for Arya. Ahh well.

Eighth Ten

Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Harley Quinn (Batman)

Ninth Ten

Annoyingly didn't know a lot in this one. Pity about Atia, I have a feeling I'd be the only one who would vote for her.

Final Ten



Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)

CarpeGuitarrem
2013-08-20, 08:59 AM
You are evil, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil! I take it "random" really means "split my loyalties like my heart". I've left no-votes unbolded.

First Ten
Honestly, this is probably gonna be the easiest set to vote for, and it's still not easy.

Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit) vs Tulip O'Hare (Preacher)
Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice & Wolf) vs The Boss (Metal Gear Solid)
The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop) (XD that's a matchup I wanna see)
Mako Mori (Pacific Rim) vs M (James Bond)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Second Ten
Okay, maybe this one's not too bad in the "being forced to choose" category...

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad) vs Visas Marr (Knights of the Old Republic 2)
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Marla Singer (Fight Club) (UGGGGGGGGGH. WHY.)
Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)
Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings) vs Nico Minoru (Runaways)
Sumiregawa Nenene (Read or Die) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)

Third Ten
Hrm. That's annoying. Seriously, why are some of these vs. one another already? *curses the RNG*

Naoto Shirogane (Persona 4) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh) vs Penny (Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog)
Mitsuru Kirijo (Persona 3) vs Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)
The Lady (Black Company) vs Kelly (Misfits)
Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars) vs Hanako Ikezawa (Katawa Shoujo)

Fourth Ten
Mm, this one isn't too bad. I like not knowing enough stuff so that I can vote up personal favorites. :smalltongue:

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
Lenneth Valkyrie (The Valkyrie) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Saria (Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
Ellie (The Last of Us) vs Clarice Sterling (Silence of the Lambs)

Fifth Ten
WHAT. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. MY HEART BELONGS TO KAYLEE. *ahem*

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Hit Girl (Kick Ass) vs Nina Myers (24)
Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Sixth Ten
Well this one is unusual.

Labrys (Persona 4) vs Lisbeth Salander (The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo)
Celes Chere (Final Fantasy) vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Lilly Satou (Katawa Shoujo) vs Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle)
Verin Mathwin (Wheel of Time) vs River Tam (Firefly)

Seventh Ten
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. IT'S ALL MY FAVORITE GALS IN ONE BRACKET!

Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5) vs Mami Tomoe (Puella Magi)
C. J. Cregg (The West Wing) vs Margarita (The Master and the Margarita)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Akemi Homura (Puella Magi) (sorry, miss, but there is very little that tops Homura.)
Monzcarro Murcatto (Best Served Cold) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)
Kato Marika (Bodacious Space Pirates) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Eighth Ten
Hmmmmmmmmmm....

Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Harley Quinn (Batman)
Lightning (Final Fantasy 13) vs Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!)
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) vs Saber (Fate Stay Night) (I'M SORRY ARTHUR BUT AGATHA)
Ha Yuri Zahard (Tower of God) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs April O'Neil (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)

Ninth Ten
There are times when I'm glad I'm not familiar enough with certain fictional characters.

Jaheira (Forgotten Realms) vs [DATA EXPUNGED]
Jade (Beyond Good or Evil) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court) vs Kim Possible (Kim Possible)
Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)
Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics) vs Taylor 'Skitter' Hebert (Worm Web)

Final Ten
Whew. Got a toughie or two in here.

Weiss Schnee (RBWY) vs Eliza (The Baroque Cycle)
Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Agent 99 (Get Smart) (Okay, this one? Not easy. Not cool, RNG, not cool. But hey--Rin broke my heart, so I guess she has to get the win here.)

tensai_oni
2013-08-20, 09:19 AM
I'd like to make a case for Susannah Dean here. Hear me out:

We have a character who is a quadruple minority (black, female, disabled, AND a split personality). Written by Stephen King from all people. And as a character, she is treated well. While minorities she is a part of obviously have a huge influence on her life, she is NOT defined by them. She is her own character and a well-rounded person, and in fact is both extremely badass and very feminine at the same time.

Just something to consider.

Haleyintraining
2013-08-20, 10:12 AM
First Ten

Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit) vs Tulip O'Hare (Preacher)
Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice & Wolf) vs The Boss (Metal Gear Solid)
The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Mako Mori (Pacific Rim) vs M (James Bond)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

I don't really have enough emotional investment in any of the characters in this bracket to have any added comments.

Second Ten

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad) vs Visas Marr (Knights of the Old Republic 2)
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Marla Singer (Fight Club)
Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)
Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings) vs Nico Minoru (Runaways)
Sumiregawa Nenene (Read or Die) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)

First off, any character written by Joss Whedon tends to be awesome. Just a general trend. Secondly, I'm not the biggest Mulan fan (aside from the song "I'll Make a Man Outta You", but it's just so irresistibly singable). Twelfth Night is one of my fave Shakespeare plays, on the other hand, and I played the role of Viola in a production, so I can't not vote for her.

Third Ten

Naoto Shirogane (Persona 4) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh) vs Penny (Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog)
Mitsuru Kirijo (Persona 3) vs Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)
The Lady (Black Company) vs Kelly (Misfits)
Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars) vs Hanako Ikezawa (Katawa Shoujo)

Holly Short was a childhood hero, so she gets my vote there. Penny vs Osaka is tough, but I've got to go with Felicia Day for this one. I found her character so powerful... just an ordinary person trying to make a difference.

Fourth Ten

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
Lenneth Valkyrie (The Valkyrie) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Saria (Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
Ellie (The Last of Us) vs Clarice Sterling (Silence of the Lambs)

In retrospect, I should have nominated Clara, but aside from her Amy is my favourite New Who Companion, so she wins this matchup easily. And I can't not vote for Saria; she's my favourite Zelda character.

Fifth Ten

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Hit Girl (Kick Ass) vs Nina Myers (24)
Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Elizabeth definitely has more depth... and sorry Samus, it's no contest there either. And I know I nominated both of them, but Black Widow has nothing on Kaylee; honestly, there's only maybe one or two other characters in this contest that it'd be a tough choice for me if they were paired with Kaylee. She's such an amazing character.

Sixth Ten

Labrys (Persona 4) vs Lisbeth Salander (The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo)
Celes Chere (Final Fantasy) vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Lilly Satou (Katawa Shoujo) vs Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle)
Verin Mathwin (Wheel of Time) vs River Tam (Firefly)

River's not my favourite Firefly girl (as mentioned previously), but I think if the show had lasted longer she'd really have developed past 'Convenient Plot Object Girl'. The episode "Objects in Space" alone raises her above the majority of the other nominees, in my opinion. Also, Howl's Moving Caste is just lovely.

Seventh Ten

Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5) vs Mami Tomoe (Puella Magi)
C. J. Cregg (The West Wing) vs Margarita (The Master and the Margarita)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Akemi Homura (Puella Magi)
Monzcarro Murcatto (Best Served Cold) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)
Kato Marika (Bodacious Space Pirates) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Spirited Away is also lovely.

Eighth Ten

Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Harley Quinn (Batman)
Lightning (Final Fantasy 13) vs Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!)
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) vs Saber (Fate Stay Night)
Ha Yuri Zahard (Tower of God) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs April O'Neil (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)

Nothing really to say here.

Ninth Ten

Jaheira (Forgotten Realms) vs [DATA EXPUNGED]
Jade (Beyond Good or Evil) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court) vs Kim Possible (Kim Possible)
Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)
Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics) vs Taylor 'Skitter' Hebert (Worm Web)

Again, no added comments.

Final Ten

Weiss Schnee (RBWY) vs Eliza (The Baroque Cycle)
Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Agent 99 (Get Smart)

I think McGonagall vs Song is the toughest matchup here. I kind of detested season six River, though, so the witch wins the day (twice).

Olinser
2013-08-20, 10:19 AM
Fourth Ten

The Gunslinger versus The Shieldmaiden of Rohan, a Valkyrie versus a Pond.

Lenneth Valkyrie (The Valkyrie) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)

Fifth Ten

Two literary icons go head to head against two wildly popular modern day characters.


Hit Girl (Kick Ass) vs Nina Myers (24)
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Sixth Ten

Oh my word I wasn't expecting this, the battle of the b*tches!


Celes Chere (Final Fantasy) vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)

Eighth Ten

A girl genius goes up against King Arthur herself!


Lightning (Final Fantasy 13) vs Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!)
Ha Yuri Zahard (Tower of God) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)

Ninth Ten

I think one of these matchups will be the toughest choice yet.


Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)

My votes for matchups I'm interested in.

Man on Fire
2013-08-20, 11:33 AM
First Ten

Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit) vs Tulip O'Hare (Preacher)
Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice & Wolf) vs The Boss (Metal Gear Solid)
The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Mako Mori (Pacific Rim) vs M (James Bond)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Second Ten

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad) vs Visas Marr (Knights of the Old Republic 2)
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Marla Singer (Fight Club)
Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)
Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings) vs Nico Minoru (Runaways)
Sumiregawa Nenene (Read or Die) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)

I'll be back here to make a case for Amanda and Nico later. For now know this
Amanda Waller once told Batman he can go and @#$% himself.
AND HE DID!

Third Ten

Naoto Shirogane (Persona 4) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh) vs Penny (Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog)
Mitsuru Kirijo (Persona 3) vs Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)
The Lady (Black Company) vs Kelly (Misfits)
Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars) vs Hanako Ikezawa (Katawa Shoujo)

I'll be back here to mae case for Lady.

Fourth Ten

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
Lenneth Valkyrie (The Valkyrie) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Saria (Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
Ellie (The Last of Us) vs Clarice Sterling (Silence of the Lambs)

Fifth Ten

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Hit Girl (Kick Ass) vs Nina Myers (24)
Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Sixth Ten

Labrys (Persona 4) vs Lisbeth Salander (The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo)
Celes Chere (Final Fantasy) vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Lilly Satou (Katawa Shoujo) vs Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle)
Verin Mathwin (Wheel of Time) vs River Tam (Firefly)

Seventh Ten

Wow, that is hard - Ivanova vs Mami is a hard match but Monza vs Death is even worse.

Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5) vs Mami Tomoe (Puella Magi)
C. J. Cregg (The West Wing) vs Margarita (The Master and the Margarita)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Akemi Homura (Puella Magi)
Monzcarro Murcatto (Best Served Cold) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)
Kato Marika (Bodacious Space Pirates) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Eighth Ten

Poor Kallen, she might not get out of this one.

Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Harley Quinn (Batman)
Lightning (Final Fantasy 13) vs Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!)
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) vs Saber (Fate Stay Night)
Ha Yuri Zahard (Tower of God) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs April O'Neil (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)

I'll be here later to mae case for Kalle and Saber

Ninth Ten

Jaheira (Forgotten Realms) vs [DATA EXPUNGED]
Jade (Beyond Good or Evil) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court) vs Kim Possible (Kim Possible)
Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)
Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics) vs Taylor 'Skitter' Hebert (Worm Web)

Final Ten

Weiss Schnee (RBWY) vs Eliza (The Baroque Cycle)
Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Agent 99 (Get Smart)

bguy
2013-08-20, 11:51 AM
I'd like to make a case for Susannah Dean here. Hear me out:

We have a character who is a quadruple minority (black, female, disabled, AND a split personality). Written by Stephen King from all people. And as a character, she is treated well. While minorities she is a part of obviously have a huge influence on her life, she is NOT defined by them. She is her own character and a well-rounded person, and in fact is both extremely badass and very feminine at the same time.

Just something to consider.

Well I voted for Eowyn, but I'm not rock solid on that vote and given that my favorite fictional character, Laurana Kanan, is currently losing in her match, do you have any interest in making a deal? If so then if you will vote for Laurana in her match against Saria, I will switch my vote in the Eowyn vs Susannah Dean match to Susannah Dean.

Eldan
2013-08-20, 12:01 PM
Can someone explain to me what people see in Saria? I mean, Ocarina of Time was a very good game, but not for the characters, surely. As in, no one really had any and the story was barely there. Is there a second zelda game with her in it, or did I just miss something?

Tengu_temp
2013-08-20, 12:05 PM
Can someone explain to me what people see in Saria? I mean, Ocarina of Time was a very good game, but not for the characters, surely. As in, no one really had any and the story was barely there. Is there a second zelda game with her in it, or did I just miss something?

She's cute and I don't care about Dragonlance. That's literally my whole reason.

CarpeGuitarrem
2013-08-20, 12:27 PM
Poor Kallen, she might not get out of this one.

I intend to see her through as far as possible. Until my loyalties are again fractured. (With my luck, if she wins, she'll face Homura.)

Terraoblivion
2013-08-20, 12:38 PM
I intend to see her through as far as possible. Until my loyalties are again fractured. (With my luck, if she wins, she'll face Homura.)

Given that Homura is losing badly to Chihiro, that sounds pretty unlikely. Which incidentally is something that kinda puzzles me, Chihiro never really struck me a terribly interesting, complex or developed character.

CarpeGuitarrem
2013-08-20, 01:14 PM
Given that Homura is losing badly to Chihiro, that sounds pretty unlikely. Which incidentally is something that kinda puzzles me, Chihiro never really struck me a terribly interesting, complex or developed character.
My money's on Miyazaki popularity + ubiquity. I'm pretty sure Spirited Away is one of the most well-known Miyazaki films nowadays; Madoka is something that only seems to be popular in circles of regular anime-watchers. (I could be wrong; that's just my impression.)

(Mind you, I don't discount those who would like Chihiro better, having seen both. That's certainly a preference thing, though I also agree that Homura is an incredibly high-caliber character.)

Randomguy
2013-08-20, 01:22 PM
First Ten


Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

I don't know/can't decide on any of the characters in the next few tens, so let's jump to number 7.

Seventh Ten


Kato Marika (Bodacious Space Pirates) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Eighth Ten


Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) vs Saber (Fate Stay Night)


Ninth Ten


Jade (Beyond Good or Evil) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court) vs Kim Possible (Kim Possible)

I think Antimony has more depth of character than Kim Possible, and has a more interesting backstory.


Final Ten


Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)

I'm surprised that Hermione Granger wasn't nominated. Also, I wish I could have gotten here in time to nominate one of the female characters from Homestuck.

Sanguine
2013-08-20, 01:55 PM
First Ten
Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit) vs Tulip O'Hare (Preacher)
Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice & Wolf) vs The Boss (Metal Gear Solid)
The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Mako Mori (Pacific Rim) vs M (James Bond)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Second Ten

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad) vs Visas Marr (Knights of the Old Republic 2)
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Marla Singer (Fight Club)
Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)
Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings) vs Nico Minoru (Runaways)
Sumiregawa Nenene (Read or Die) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)

Third Ten

Naoto Shirogane (Persona 4) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh) vs Penny (Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog)
Mitsuru Kirijo (Persona 3) vs Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)
The Lady (Black Company) vs Kelly (Misfits)
Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars) vs Hanako Ikezawa (Katawa Shoujo)

Fourth Ten

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
Lenneth Valkyrie (The Valkyrie) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Saria (Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
Ellie (The Last of Us) vs Clarice Sterling (Silence of the Lambs)

Fifth Ten

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Hit Girl (Kick Ass) vs Nina Myers (24)
Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Sixth Ten

Labrys (Persona 4) vs Lisbeth Salander (The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo)
Celes Chere (Final Fantasy) vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Lilly Satou (Katawa Shoujo) vs Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle)
Verin Mathwin (Wheel of Time) vs River Tam (Firefly)

Seventh Ten

Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5) vs Mami Tomoe (Puella Magi)
C. J. Cregg (The West Wing) vs Margarita (The Master and the Margarita)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Akemi Homura (Puella Magi)
Monzcarro Murcatto (Best Served Cold) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)
Kato Marika (Bodacious Space Pirates) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Eighth Ten

Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Harley Quinn (Batman)
Lightning (Final Fantasy 13) vs Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!)
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) vs Saber (Fate Stay Night)
Ha Yuri Zahard (Tower of God) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs April O'Neil (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)

Ninth Ten

Jaheira (Forgotten Realms) vs [DATA EXPUNGED]
Jade (Beyond Good or Evil) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court) vs Kim Possible (Kim Possible)
Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)
Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics) vs Taylor 'Skitter' Hebert (Worm Web)

Final Ten

Weiss Schnee (RBWY) vs Eliza (The Baroque Cycle)
Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Agent 99 (Get Smart)

snoopy13a
2013-08-20, 02:05 PM
First Ten


Mako Mori (Pacific Rim) vs M (James Bond)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Voting for Catwoman and voting against M. Not a huge Judi Dench fan.


Second Ten
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Marla Singer (Fight Club)
Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)

Shakespearean cross-dressers beat Disney cross-dressers. I liked Marla in Fight Club and thought Dollhouse was poor, so that vote was easy.

Third Ten


Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars) vs Hanako Ikezawa (Katawa Shoujo)

Princess Leia is the only one I'm familiar with; plus I like her. I did watch Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon but didn't like it.

Fourth Ten

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)

Not the biggest Eowyn fan, but she's ok.

Fifth Ten

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Kaylee is alright, and I nominated Eliza Bennett.

Sixth Ten

Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Verin Mathwin (Wheel of Time) vs River Tam (Firefly)

Keeping Cersei around would be fun. I like River in most of Firefly (the turning her into a superhero in Serenity was a bit odd, however).

Seventh Ten

Kato Marika (Bodacious Space Pirates) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Maybe the most interesting GoT character.

Eighth Ten

Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Harley Quinn (Batman)

Harley is kinda fanservicey in my opinion, but I guess she gets my vote.

Ninth Ten

Abstain on all

Final Ten

Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)

I dislike Willow's sanctimonious entitlement, but I thoroughly despise Kreia.

Tengu_temp
2013-08-20, 02:16 PM
I added two votes where previously I was undecided, with possible more to come.

Man on Fire
2013-08-20, 03:52 PM
So, lets try to raise some votes.

Nico Minoru is a rare character in fiction. She's Asian, Catholic and Goth, yet none of these qualities define her. She's intelligent and open-minded, maybe a bit confused abotu her sexuality, and most of all full of care and self-sacrifice. After events from first Runaways series, Nico took leadership of the group, through, like she herself states, she's more of a den mother than traditional leader. She is capable of holding the team together and filling role of mother figure for younger team members - Molly, and later Klara. It is clear she, like all Runaways, has been damaged by events that wrecked her life, which often shows.

She has problems with showing trust, especially to superheroes and adults, Spider-Man learned it hard way, when she once knocked him down, and when Runaways had to look for help at Avengers Academy, she would rather sneak into it that aks for help, and until very end had problems trusting staff and students of Academy. But how can you blame her? Her first ecounter with superheroes ended with Cloak &Dagger throwing her into dimension full of lovecraftian monstrorities, second with Captain America separating her from her friends by force, and third with Darkhawk almost choking her to death.

She lacks experience, which she could feel when she lost negotiations with Kingpin, but he manages to make up for it with determination. To protect her friends she is willing to regurally inflict self harm (which she has to do, to summon her magic staff) even through she hates it and was willing to go through loads of pain, to become stronger, just to save her friends. Her team is her family, but that doesn't mean she trusts them completely - she has prepared ways to kill both Xavin and Victor, would they go the wrong way. She was also prepared to die herself, asking Gret to carry on for her if she would. Sometiems she needs to relief stress by kissing somebody, through she udnerstands it's wrong and had lead to few trouble.

She had been hurt and betrayed by boys in her life (more in spoiler because they're spoilerific examples), more than once, and is trying to take it slowly, when building relationships now.

She falls for a guy named Topher. Turns out he's an evil vampire and wants to turn her.
She falls for previous team leader, Alex. turns out he was working for the bad guys and manipulating them all the time.
She slept with Victor and even through they both felt it was a mistake and bad decision, they tried to make their relationship work. It felt apart when he feel for another girl and even through Nico let him go, feeling their relationship wasn't working anyway, she was still hurt.

Staff of One requires her to memorize all spells she already casted, as she cannot reuse any spell more than once, and she does. Not only that, but she gets creative with her spells and she even try using different languages to walk over this limitation (she once asked Vision during a team-up to supply her words in latin), and isn't above getting into violence, if she has. She can kick you in the face or use her staff as meele weapon - she once smacked Cyclops of X-men in the face with it, because he was colossal prick. There are suggestions the Staff of One may be slowly corrupting her, or amplifying her own, cumulative anger - in Josh Whedon's run she did pretty villainous thing to
Gret's parents,
even through they deserved it.

What's speaks of Nico's strength as a character is that she is the web connecting her entire team. Currenty marvel isn't treating her well, placing her in worst book they ever published, Avengers Arena. When it looked like she was killed (in pretty stupid way. Luckily she came back and icked ass of story's villain. And considering that said villain is biggest Mary Sue since Red Hulk, it speaks how strong Nico is) fans were quick to point out that without her there are no Runaways. There can be X-Men without Charles Xavier. There can be Avengers without Captain America. There can be Fantastic Four withou Reed Richards. There can be Inhumans without Black Bolt. But without Nico, there ae no Runaways.

ArlEammon
2013-08-20, 04:51 PM
First Ten


Mako Mori (Pacific Rim) vs M (James Bond)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Voting for Catwoman and voting against M. Not a huge Judi Dench fan.


Second Ten
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Marla Singer (Fight Club)
Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)

Shakespearean cross-dressers beat Disney cross-dressers. I liked Marla in Fight Club and thought Dollhouse was poor, so that vote was easy.

Third Ten


Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars) vs Hanako Ikezawa (Katawa Shoujo)

Princess Leia is the only one I'm familiar with; plus I like her. I did watch Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon but didn't like it.

Fourth Ten

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)

Not the biggest Eowyn fan, but she's ok.

Fifth Ten

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Kaylee is alright, and I nominated Eliza Bennett.

Sixth Ten

Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Verin Mathwin (Wheel of Time) vs River Tam (Firefly)

Keeping Cersei around would be fun. I like River in most of Firefly (the turning her into a superhero in Serenity was a bit odd, however).

Seventh Ten

Kato Marika (Bodacious Space Pirates) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Maybe the most interesting GoT character.

Eighth Ten

Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Harley Quinn (Batman)

Harley is kinda fanservicey in my opinion, but I guess she gets my vote.

Ninth Ten

Abstain on all

Final Ten

Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)

I dislike Willow's sanctimonious entitlement, but I thoroughly despise Kreia.


You chose Jessica Fletcher over Samus Aran? I think I'm in love. I don't know very much about fictional females, but I know Samus Aran and I know Jessica Fletcher.

Fifth Ten:

Samus Aran vs Jessica Fletcher

Zevox
2013-08-20, 05:27 PM
Labrys story might not be the most original, in fact it very much isn't, it was still told well and Labrys herself is both adorable and badass and an awesome enough robot that I named my computer after her.
Yeah, that's probably the most remarkable thing about it. Larbys' story is one you've likely heard plenty of times before in one form or another, and I was certainly able to foresee basically all the "twists" to it while watching it. And yet, that didn't matter. It's so well written and engrossing, and Labrys herself such a lovable character, that it absolutely makes that game. It's one of a small handful of stories to make me cry, and the only one to do so without a fair few hours of setup to give me a pre-existing emotional attachment to the character. It's easily one of the best stories in its medium, and far stronger than many in other mediums as well, all despite being completely predictable.


You chose Jessica Fletcher over Samus Aran? I think I'm in love. I don't know very much about fictional females, but I know Samus Aran and I know Jessica Fletcher.
I don't know Jessica Fletcher, but to be honest I don't know why people would be voting for Samus over anyone with much of a story behind them anyway. Maybe I missed something since I've only played the Metroid Prime games, but from what I've heard the Metroid series never really had much of a story or any kind of character development for Samus until Other M, and its story is pretty near universally despised by all I've heard.

Samus to my knowledge is mostly remarkable because Nintendo chose to make her a woman even though there was no specific reason to. Which is admirable enough, but it doesn't really make her a great character, just one with a unique place in the history of video games as a medium.

Terraoblivion
2013-08-20, 05:33 PM
Yeah, that's probably the most remarkable thing about it. Larbys' story is one you've likely heard plenty of times before in one form or another, and I was certainly able to foresee basically all the "twists" to it while watching it. And yet, that didn't matter. It's so well written and engrossing, and Labrys herself such a lovable character, that it absolutely makes that game. It's one of a small handful of stories to make me cry, and the only one to do so without a fair few hours of setup to give me a pre-existing emotional attachment to the character. It's easily one of the best stories in its medium, and far stronger than many in other mediums as well, all despite being completely predictable.

Yeah, it's really remarkable. Really, it shows the skill Atlus has at writing when they really want to.

Man on Fire
2013-08-20, 07:04 PM
How long one round lasts? When is voting over?
I want to know how much time I have to write about Lady, Waller, Kallen and Saber.

Zevox
2013-08-20, 07:33 PM
How long one round lasts? When is voting over?
I want to know how much time I have to write about Lady, Waller, Kallen and Saber.
Our host said in the post that started this round of voting that he'd be tallying the votes in five days, so plenty of time.

dps
2013-08-20, 09:59 PM
First 10

M, James Bond
Selina Kyle, (Batman)--though it might make a difference which Selina Kyle we're talking about


Second 10

Ellen Ripley, Alien

Third 10

The Lady, Black Company
Princess Leia Organa, Star Wars


Fourth 10

Amelia Pond, Doctor Who--snd I could kick myself for not nominating Leela when I had the chance
Clarice Sterling, Silence of the Lambs


Fifth 10

Hit Girl, Kick Ass
Jadzia Dax, Star Trek Deep Space Nine
Jessica Fletcher, Murder She Wrote


Sixth 10

pass


Seventh 10

Susan Ivanova, Babylon 5


Eighth 10

Agatha Heterodyne, Girl Genuis
April O'Neil, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles


Ninth 10

Kim Possible, Kim Possible


Tenth 10

Willow Rosenburg, Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Agent 99, Get Smart


A lot of characters I wasn't familiar with, and several instances where I am familiar with the characters but don't particularly like either of the two in the pairing.

Forum Explorer
2013-08-20, 10:23 PM
Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit) vs Tulip O'Hare (Preacher)
Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice & Wolf) vs The Boss (Metal Gear Solid)
The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Mako Mori (Pacific Rim) vs M (James Bond)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Second Ten

Two literary heroes, one Eastern and one Western, collide.

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad) vs Visas Marr (Knights of the Old Republic 2)
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Marla Singer (Fight Club)
Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)
Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings) vs Nico Minoru (Runaways)
Sumiregawa Nenene (Read or Die) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)

Third Ten

One impossibly cute student from Osaka versus one impossibly cute red-headed homeless shelter volunteer. The Persona Girls make their mark.

Naoto Shirogane (Persona 4) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh) vs Penny (Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog)
Mitsuru Kirijo (Persona 3) vs Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)
The Lady (Black Company) vs Kelly (Misfits)
Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars) vs Hanako Ikezawa (Katawa Shoujo)

Fourth Ten

The Gunslinger versus The Shieldmaiden of Rohan, a Valkyrie versus a Pond.

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
Lenneth Valkyrie (The Valkyrie) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Saria (Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
Ellie (The Last of Us) vs Clarice Sterling (Silence of the Lambs)

Fifth Ten

Two literary icons go head to head against two wildly popular modern day characters.

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Hit Girl (Kick Ass) vs Nina Myers (24)
Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Sixth Ten

Oh my word I wasn't expecting this, the battle of the b*tches!

Labrys (Persona 4) vs Lisbeth Salander (The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo)
Celes Chere (Final Fantasy) vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Lilly Satou (Katawa Shoujo) vs Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle)
Verin Mathwin (Wheel of Time) vs River Tam (Firefly)

Seventh Ten

A bodacious space pirate takes on a Faceless Man-in-training.

Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5) vs Mami Tomoe (Puella Magi)
C. J. Cregg (The West Wing) vs Margarita (The Master and the Margarita)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Akemi Homura (Puella Magi)
Monzcarro Murcatto (Best Served Cold) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)
Kato Marika (Bodacious Space Pirates) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Eighth Ten

A girl genius goes up against King Arthur herself!

Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Harley Quinn (Batman)
Lightning (Final Fantasy 13) vs Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!)
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) vs Saber (Fate Stay Night)
Ha Yuri Zahard (Tower of God) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs April O'Neil (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)

Ninth Ten

I think one of these matchups will be the toughest choice yet.

Jaheira (Forgotten Realms) vs [DATA EXPUNGED]
Jade (Beyond Good or Evil) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court) vs Kim Possible (Kim Possible)
Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)
Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics) vs Taylor 'Skitter' Hebert (Worm Web)

Final Ten

The battle of the Professors!

Weiss Schnee (RBWY) vs Eliza (The Baroque Cycle)
Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Agent 99 (Get Smart)

votes are in bold.

oblivion6
2013-08-20, 10:27 PM
Let me just go through and do those I actually know. Disappointed you didn't mention Tattletale there Eldan(or any other Worm fan). I would likely mention every Worm character I could think of :smalltongue:

First Ten

Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Second Ten

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad) vs Visas Marr (Knights of the Old Republic 2)

Third Ten

Naoto Shirogane (Persona 4) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)

I could comment on the Princess Leia one, but I didn't really like her and I don't know anything about the other.

Fourth Ten

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Saria (Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)

Fifth Ten

Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Sixth Ten

Celes Chere (Final Fantasy) vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)

Seventh Ten

Kato Marika (Bodacious Space Pirates) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Eighth Ten

Lightning (Final Fantasy 13) vs Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!)

Ninth Ten

vs Taylor 'Skitter' Hebert (Worm Web)

Final Ten

Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)

Fable Wright
2013-08-20, 11:01 PM
First Ten

Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Second Ten

Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)


Third Ten
Naoto Shirogane (Persona 4) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh) vs Penny (Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog)

Fourth Ten
Lenneth Valkyrie (The Valkyrie) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)


Fifth Ten
Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Sixth Ten
Celes Chere (Final Fantasy) vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Verin Mathwin (Wheel of Time) vs River Tam (Firefly)

Seventh Ten
Monzcarro Murcatto (Best Served Cold) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)

Eighth Ten
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) vs Saber (Fate Stay Night)


Ninth Ten
Jade (Beyond Good or Evil) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court) vs Kim Possible (Kim Possible)
Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)

Final Ten
Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)

PhantomDennis
2013-08-20, 11:12 PM
VOTING - ROUND ONE

First Ten

A water bender versus a Catwoman, and the battle of the Ms!

Tulip O'Hare (Preacher)
The Boss (Metal Gear Solid)
Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
M (James Bond)
Selina Kyle (Batman)

Second Ten

Two literary heroes, one Eastern and one Western, collide.

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad)
Echo (Dollhouse)
Mulan (Legend, Disney, ONCE UPON A TIME)
Sumiregawa Nenene (Read or Die) )

Third Ten

One impossibly cute student from Osaka versus one impossibly cute red-headed homeless shelter volunteer. The Persona Girls make their mark.

Naoto Shirogane (Persona 4)
Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh)
Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)
The Lady (Black Company)
Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars) )

Fourth Ten

The Gunslinger versus The Shieldmaiden of Rohan, a Valkyrie versus a Pond.

Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
)

Fifth Ten

Two literary icons go head to head against two wildly popular modern day characters.

Black Widow (Marvel Comics)
Hit Girl (Kick Ass)
Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)
Samus Aran (Metroid)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice)

Sixth Ten

Oh my word I wasn't expecting this, the battle of the b*tches!

Labrys (Persona 4)
Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Skyler White (Breaking Bad)
River Tam (Firefly)

Seventh Ten

A bodacious space pirate takes on a Faceless Man-in-training.

Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5)
Margarita (The Master and the Margarita)
Kato Marika (Bodacious Space Pirates) )

Eighth Ten

A girl genius goes up against King Arthur herself!

Harley Quinn (Batman)
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
Ha Yuri Zahard (Tower of God) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)
April O'Neil (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)

Ninth Ten

I think one of these matchups will be the toughest choice yet.

Jaheira (Forgotten Realms) vs [DATA EXPUNGED]
Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Kim Possible (Kim Possible)
Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail)
Captain Marvel (Monica Rambeau) (Marvel Comics) )

Final Ten

The battle of the Professors!

Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter)
Agent 99 (Get Smart)

"Go and vote, it will make you feel big and strong." - Bob Schieffer


How did April O'Neil make the List but not Lois Lane?

Terraoblivion
2013-08-20, 11:15 PM
How did April O'Neil make the List but not Lois Lane?

Presumably because the list is an eclectic collection of the favorite characters of a variety of people who felt responsible to nothing other than their own tastes. Or put more bluntly, it's pretty random. But I don't really think there's anything wrong with that, we're not trying to do any kind of advanced science, after all.

RCgothic
2013-08-21, 02:50 AM
I'm kicking myself that I didn't manage to get Rainbow Dash or Princess Luna into the nominations. With the pony fanbase in the playground I'm sure they'd have done well!:smallsigh:

Talieth
2013-08-21, 06:31 AM
First Ten

Mako Mori (Pacific Rim)
Selina Kyle (Batman)


Second Ten

Visas Marr (Knights of the Old Republic 2)
Echo (Dollhouse)
Ellen Ripley (Alien)


Third Ten

The Lady (Black Company)


Fourth Ten

Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld)


Fifth Ten

Kaylee Frye (Firefly)


Sixth Ten

Celes Chere (Final Fantasy) vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
River Tam (Firefly)

Arg, the two hardest choices in this sixth serie !
As much as I like Shepard, Celes is as much badass AND a fabulous opera diva !
And then, one brown sister vs an adorable lunatic ballet dancer ? sorry Verin, but you shall continue your quest for knowledge elsewhere; the Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills...

Seventh Ten

Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)


Eighth Ten

Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass)
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
Kerrigan (Starcraft)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape)


Ninth Ten

Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail)


Final Ten

Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)
Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)

RCgothic
2013-08-21, 07:48 AM
I also forgot to nominate Eponine from Les Miserables. Kicking myself for that now!

CarpeGuitarrem
2013-08-21, 09:54 AM
See, Lois, the ponies, and Eponine can all team up and swear vengeance for the next time the competition is held.

Zevox
2013-08-21, 10:16 AM
I'm kicking myself that I didn't manage to get Rainbow Dash or Princess Luna into the nominations. With the pony fanbase in the playground I'm sure they'd have done well!:smallsigh:
I had considered nominating Rainbow Dash, but I didn't want to nominate too many, since there was good turnout and our host said there'd only be 80 entrants originally. And it turns out I couldn't have anyway, since I used my animation nomination on Toph and my free picks for Mitsuru and Labrys.

Man on Fire
2013-08-21, 01:42 PM
Let me tell you who is the Lady.
Imagine Sauron if he was a woman. And was more strongwilled and determined, so he never slipped from his original goals into full-blown generic "evil". Imagine him creating strong bureaucratic system, that not only kept in control regular army but also was so well-devised to survive longer than it's creator. Imagine him using nazguls tto patrol the roads and have estabilished rules so hard on crime and so effective guard works that even lone woman can safely travel throug Mordor.

That' The Lady.

Or rather, that's the Lady in first few books.

WARNING, UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD!

Lady is immortal sorcerress who once was part of Domination - dark era in history of the world, in which mad sorcerer Dominator ruled the known world, with her at his side, as a wife. Both him and Lady, as well as their servants, another group of powerful and immortal magicians, called Those Who Were Taken (or just Taken for short, think of them as Forsaken from Wheel of Time, only much more effective) have been imprisoned by legendary chosen one, the White Rose. However, as it happens, thousands years later, anccient evil has awakened. Lady and Ten o the Taken were set free. But, instead of who you might think, she didn't tried to awae her husband. She hated the ground that crazy, hedonistic bastard walked on. Instead Lady took control over Ten Who Were Taken and started conruering nation after nation, until she estabilished her own empire (called sometime Empire of Charm, after stronghold in which Lady lived). At the same time she was leading campaign after campaign of conquest, defeating opponents not only with superior foce but also strategy. She teds to work on more subtle level than her husband, who ha enough power to steamroll over everything in his path.

Lady sees herself and necessary evil and quite frankly, it's implied her reing wasn't much worse than what was there before, most of peasants are even said to be better and rebels are lead by descendants or aristocracy she overthrew. In "Dreams of Steel", book written fron her perspective, she does a lot of work, trying to justify awful things she does.

She is both horribly creative and pagmatic, beign able to come with new solutions and tactis, like creating weapons to deal with murderous shadows. But she isn't above stealing ideas, even from ehr husband, like she did when she had to deal with priests of various religions of Taligos trying to manipulate her, put a pressure on her or outright remove from position of the army leader for being a woman.
She gathered them all in one place and ordered her archers to shoot until every single one of them was dead.

Lady fears death and she fears to become remembered as just generic evil overlord, which is why she gets close to Croaker, hopig he will write the truth in his Annals and later falls in love with him. But she never stops being herself, even after gettign depowered - she loves power and she loves being in charge and jumps at the opportunity to get new power, leeching it from evil godess, Kina. But she's not stupid and can recognize when somebody tries to seduce her into service, because she did it herself several times - she managed to manipulate the link between her and said godess to get the power but keep free will and yet strenghten it so much it would be extremely painful for Kina to break it. Even at the end of the seires she's restored to full power by yet another diety, but this time with a deal that if she ever starts walkign the path of conqueror, diety will release Soulcatcher.

Lady's relationship with Soulcatcher, most dangerous of the Taken, is pretty interesting and complicated - they are related, but despise and hate one another, trying to defeat and destroy the other at every opportunity. But they aren't above working together agaisnt common enemy (unless they can work with that enemy against the other) and there are hints they actually do care about one another in a very twisted way. As it's theorized in "Soldiers Live" their endless skirmishe are just amped up form of rivaly between Company's two wizards, Goblin and One-Eye - it's their insane way to show much much they need each other, they refraind to, because nobody ever taught them how to tell "I love you".

Whiel Lady has human feelings, they can actually make her more terrifing. When her daughter gets kidnapped by Deceivers, cult she though she could manipulate to her own needs, Lady goes on a rampage and spends years merciressly hunting any Deceiver possible, until she basically whipes the cult out of the face of Earth. Yet, once she finds her daughter she has a meltdown that shows there is a human being under all that cold pragmatism. But in the end, when she cannot save the girl fom Kina's influence and has to kill her, she is devasted. But she still does it.

And that' why you should vote for Lady in her fight in Third Ten.

Eldan
2013-08-21, 02:00 PM
"Sauron as a woman but more efficient" is not very compelling. Because Sauron is not very compelling. He's menacing and atmospheric in the book, sure. But then? Describe his personality. I'll wait.

Tanuki Tales
2013-08-21, 02:05 PM
Huh.

Jadzia and Integra are dead even at 7 votes each (unless I missed someone). And here I thought Jadzia being a Trek girl would mean she'd win for sure.

Man on Fire
2013-08-21, 03:03 PM
"Sauron as a woman but more efficient" is not very compelling. Because Sauron is not very compelling. He's menacing and atmospheric in the book, sure. But then? Describe his personality. I'll wait.

Lady' personality is in the spoilered part, several paragraphs.
Plus, several things that are wrong with you boiling my pot down to "Sauron but more efficent"
- As I pointed out, Lady actually haven't descended into full-blown evil like he did
- There is a difference between what she is doing and what Sauron was Doing, that doesn't end on efficency. Sauron's problem wasn't that he wasn't efficent, but that he didin't care enough to actually manage his servants. Lady is not only efficent, she actually has a goal and vision of world ruled by her, Sauron didn't gave a two inches of dead dog's @#$% about that, he just wanted to rule the world.
- Lady in the end sees herself as a hero who does evil deeds out of necessity, while Sauron is openly evil.
- Sauron willingly served Morgoth, Lady was enslaved by Dominator, betrayed him and left to rule herself and she even teamed up with her enemies to make sure he is imprisoned.

And that' all based on first three books (Black Company, Shadows Linger, The White Rose), her personality develops in the later six quite lot (Shadow Games, Dreams of Steel, Grim Seasons, She is The Darkness, Water Sleeps, Soldiers Live).

Also, found nice quote from lady, warningy, BIT SPOILERIFIC
I looked them over, Blade, Swan, Ram, Naryan, the two arm-holders. Seven of us. As Swan had observed, the obligatory number for a company on a quest. A totally mixed bag. By his own standards each was a good person. By the standards of others everyone, excepting Swan, was a villain.

CarpeGuitarrem
2013-08-21, 03:06 PM
In fairness, you started your post with "Imagine if Sauron was a woman"...

Man on Fire
2013-08-21, 03:12 PM
In fairness, you started your post with "Imagine if Sauron was a woman"...

That is kinda important part, entire point of the first book is to play with exceptations typical to standard fantasy - book is written from bad guys' point of view, rebels aren't much better than the empire, choosen one is a lie and Sauron stand-in is actually a person just like everybody else. Powerful and ruthless, but stil a human being, not some 100% evil for the sake of evil monster. It goes from there and explores Lady's personality more and more with each book, but the starting point is still important.

Plus, compaision like these are easy way to hook person into the reading, but maybe you should read more than that before passing a judgment.

Eldan
2013-08-21, 03:37 PM
So, nothing at all like Sauron? From your description (and I don't really want to open the spoiler), I fail to see what she has in common with Sauron at all. She's a human, not a god. She's not totally evil. She has more personality. She has better defined goals.

Forum Explorer
2013-08-21, 06:00 PM
Huh.

Jadzia and Integra are dead even at 7 votes each (unless I missed someone). And here I thought Jadzia being a Trek girl would mean she'd win for sure.

That's because Sir Integra is a bad*** vampire hunter who controls the greatest vampire of all time. As a young child she escaped from assassins and awoke Alucard with her own blood.

Alternatively if you go by Hellsing Abridged she's the hilarious and long-suffering administrator who has to deal with Alucard with whom she has no practical means of control. She's still a bad***.

Tanuki Tales
2013-08-21, 06:30 PM
That's because Sir Integra is a bad*** vampire hunter who controls the greatest vampire of all time. As a young child she escaped from assassins and awoke Alucard with her own blood.

Alternatively if you go by Hellsing Abridged she's the hilarious and long-suffering administrator who has to deal with Alucard with whom she has no practical means of control. She's still a bad***.

I know. I'm the one who nominated her and made the case for her. :smallbiggrin:

Man I love Hellsing Abridged.

Fri
2013-08-21, 10:12 PM
A character from a movie most remarkable for the setting, animation and artistry and a character for whom people confuse sociopathy with heroism really can't compete.


If I actually vote that's exactly why I'd vote for Arya, just fyi. :smalltongue:

I'm still sad that nobody got the mind to put Marceline here :smallfrown:

Eldan
2013-08-22, 03:42 AM
Surely no one really thinks of Arya as heroic. She's fun to read about, but she's no hero.

Blue1005
2013-08-22, 03:47 AM
What about Aeris from FF7? Most heroic chic ever.

CarpeGuitarrem
2013-08-22, 09:08 AM
Surely no one really thinks of Arya as heroic. She's fun to read about, but she's no hero.
Right. She's driven, defiant, and never stops going. And hey--she does come into the story as a very affable sort of character, the plucky tomboy type.

Man on Fire
2013-08-22, 06:23 PM
So, nothing at all like Sauron? From your description (and I don't really want to open the spoiler), I fail to see what she has in common with Sauron at all. She's a human, not a god. She's not totally evil. She has more personality. She has better defined goals.

You're a sworn enemy of all things fun, aren't you?

SaintRidley
2013-08-22, 08:01 PM
Second Ten

Two literary heroes, one Eastern and one Western, collide.


Echo (Dollhouse) vs Marla Singer (Fight Club)
Sumiregawa Nenene (Read or Die) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)

Third Ten

One impossibly cute student from Osaka versus one impossibly cute red-headed homeless shelter volunteer. The Persona Girls make their mark.


Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh) vs Penny (Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog)

Fourth Ten

The Gunslinger versus The Shieldmaiden of Rohan, a Valkyrie versus a Pond.


Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Saria (Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)


Fifth Ten

Two literary icons go head to head against two wildly popular modern day characters.

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Hit Girl (Kick Ass) vs Nina Myers (24)
Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)


Seventh Ten

A bodacious space pirate takes on a Faceless Man-in-training.


C. J. Cregg (The West Wing) vs Margarita (The Master and the Margarita)

Eighth Ten

A girl genius goes up against King Arthur herself!

Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Harley Quinn (Batman)
Ha Yuri Zahard (Tower of God) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)


Ninth Ten

I think one of these matchups will be the toughest choice yet.


Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court) vs Kim Possible (Kim Possible)


Final Ten

The battle of the Professors!


Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)

Taet
2013-08-22, 10:31 PM
First Ten

Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit) vs Tulip O'Hare (Preacher)
Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice & Wolf) vs The Boss (Metal Gear Solid)
The Wicked Witch of the West (Wizard of Oz) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Mako Mori (Pacific Rim) vs M (James Bond)
Katara (Avatar Legend of Aang) vs Selina Kyle (Batman)

Second Ten

Amanda Waller (Suicide Squad) vs Visas Marr (Knights of the Old Republic 2)
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Marla Singer (Fight Club)
Mulan (Legend, Disney) vs Viola (Twelfth Night)
Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings) vs Nico Minoru (Runaways)
Sumiregawa Nenene (Read or Die) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)

Third Ten

Naoto Shirogane (Persona 4) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh) vs Penny (Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog)
Mitsuru Kirijo (Persona 3) vs Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon)
The Lady (Black Company) vs Kelly (Misfits)
Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars) vs Hanako Ikezawa (Katawa Shoujo)

Fourth Ten

Susannah Dean (The Dark Tower) vs Eowyn (Lord of the Rings)
Lenneth Valkyrie (The Valkyrie) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Kino (Kino's Journey)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Saria (Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
Ellie (The Last of Us) vs Clarice Sterling (Silence of the Lambs)

Fifth Ten

Black Widow (Marvel Comics) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Hit Girl (Kick Ass) vs Nina Myers (24)
Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Sir Integra Fairbrook Wingates Hellsing (Hellsing)
Samus Aran (Metroid) vs Jessica Fletcher (Murder She Wrote)
Elizabeth Bennett (Pride and Prejudice) vs Azula (Avatar Legend of Aang)

Sixth Ten

Labrys (Persona 4) vs Lisbeth Salander (The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo)
Celes Chere (Final Fantasy) vs Commander Jane Shepard (Mass Effect)
Skyler White (Breaking Bad) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Lilly Satou (Katawa Shoujo) vs Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle)
Verin Mathwin (Wheel of Time) vs River Tam (Firefly)

Seventh Ten

Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5) vs Mami Tomoe (Puella Magi)
C. J. Cregg (The West Wing) vs Margarita (The Master and the Margarita)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Akemi Homura (Puella Magi)
Monzcarro Murcatto (Best Served Cold) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)
Kato Marika (Bodacious Space Pirates) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Eighth Ten

Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Harley Quinn (Batman)
Lightning (Final Fantasy 13) vs Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!)
Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) vs Saber (Fate Stay Night)
Ha Yuri Zahard (Tower of God) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs April O'Neil (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)

Ninth Ten

Jaheira (Forgotten Realms) vs [DATA EXPUNGED]
Jade (Beyond Good or Evil) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar Legend of Aang)
Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court) vs Kim Possible (Kim Possible)
Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Atia of the Julii (Rome)
Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics) vs Taylor 'Skitter' Hebert (Worm Web)

Final Ten

Weiss Schnee (RBWY) vs Eliza (The Baroque Cycle)
Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter) vs Professor River Song (Doctor Who)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)
Kreia (Knights of the Old Republic 2) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Agent 99 (Get Smart)

Eldan
2013-08-23, 03:25 AM
You're a sworn enemy of all things fun, aren't you?

Yes. My day job is assassinating comedians and my hobby is trampling cute little animals. I founded a company dedicated to putting salt and coffee grounds into children's ice cream. I hired a man to use weather control to ruin people's holidays. I once carved the word "FUN" into the Earth's second moon with a giant laser only so I could destroy it later.

Man on Fire
2013-08-23, 07:02 AM
“Somewhere, somehow, someone’s gotten the idea I’ve gotten soft. Get that idea right out of your brains while your brains are still inside your head. I will kill you stone dead if you play games with me now, and I’ve got enough muscle here to keep Rover there occupied until I do it.”

If yo are superbeing in DC Universe, there is one person you should fear. And no, it's not Batman. It's Amanda Waller. There is a reason why people call her "The Wall" and that's not because of her size, but because of courage and iron will. If you go against this woman, you are going to crash into the Wall and die and she won't even shrug.

“I ain’t letting these damn streets have no more of my family. By God in Heaven, I swear I’ll get them out or kill myself trying.”

When half of her family was murdered, Waller decided she won't just take it like a good girl, but fight bac. She started career as political aide and found about two previous incarnations of Suicide Squad, which inspired her to create completely new one. As she herself describes it:

“I’m a practical woman. I see a problem, I wanted it solved. There are things, here and abroad, that need doing, but for one reason or another, the government cannot do them. That’s fine. I understand that. But those things still need doing. What’s needed is a covert group of agents — utterly ruthless, totally expendable. Prisons are full of those kind of people and it costs to keep them there. Especially the super-villains. So why not let them contribute to their country ? Make them a deal : do what needs doing, succeed and survive, and keep your trap shut, and we’ll commute your sentences to time served.”

Waller quickly became woman in charge of both Suicide Squad and Checkmate and proved to have everything needed for the position. Her iron will and courage proved to be stronger than what some of the biggest names in the DC could bring to the table. She won a stare-down with Batman himelf, forcing him to back down and once told off Darkseid and lived to tell the tale. She always did everything to keep the Squad out of the politial missions, going so far to dig dirt on a blackmailer who tried to force Squad into helping his friend, corrupted senator, win the election, and blackmail him into backing down. Ruthless pragmatism and thendency to distrust others have bought her toruble few times, but she always managed to come on top in the end. Duging Janis Directive she manipulated other intelligence agencies into waging war on each other, to discover who wanted to do it i nthe first place, then place moles in that organiation and turn the tables to destroy them. When Squads' cover was blown off, she fought to save it and cooked another intrigue that ended in her coming on top.

She is generally a non-combatant but proved she can kick butts when faced against Granny Goodness of the New Gods (and for those who think Granny is weak, shee took down Big Bard AND Poison Ivy in the same story).

Officially called the sexiest fight in comics history:

1 (http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo271/queenursulalj/suicidesquad/SuicideSquad34p20.jpg)
2 (http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo271/queenursulalj/suicidesquad/SuicideSquad35p09.jpg)
3 (http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo271/queenursulalj/suicidesquad/SuicideSquad35p10.jpg)

Avilan the Grey
2013-08-23, 07:55 AM
I don't like that they revamped her into a tall sexy black woman. But then it only proves the 90ies are back.

On the other hand I have never really liked her; it doesn't help that I LOATHE Suicide Sqad...

Man on Fire
2013-08-23, 09:39 AM
I don't like that they revamped her into a tall sexy black woman. But then it only proves the 90ies are back.

On the other hand I have never really liked her; it doesn't help that I LOATHE Suicide Sqad...

Why? I'm only halfway through it and love every single page. Don't tell me you're one of those Batgod fanboys wh ocannot accept Waller made him back down and Flag beat the living turd out of him.

bguy
2013-08-23, 09:46 AM
I don't like that they revamped her into a tall sexy black woman. But then it only proves the 90ies are back.

Really? That's weak. One of the things that was so distinctive about Amanda Waller is that she was one of the few women in Comic Books that didn't look like a supermodel.

Anyway to put in a few words for Ms. Waller's opponent, Visas Marr endured being the sole survivor of the destruction of all life on her homeworld and then a year of torture and slavery at the hands of the most monstrous Sith Lord of them all, and still went on to become a great hero who helped defeat that same Sith Lord. That shows strength of character and courage greater than Amanda Waller has ever demonstrated, so Visas deserves your vote.

Tanuki Tales
2013-08-23, 11:02 AM
Why? I'm only halfway through it and love every single page. Don't tell me you're one of those Batgod fanboys wh ocannot accept Waller made him back down and Flag beat the living turd out of him.

Appeal to Motive fallacy.

I'm sure the actual reason, along with mine, is that she wasn't some ridiculous ill-proportionate or forced "sexy" female character and didn't need to be.

Avilan the Grey
2013-08-23, 11:41 AM
Why? I'm only halfway through it and love every single page. Don't tell me you're one of those Batgod fanboys wh ocannot accept Waller made him back down and Flag beat the living turd out of him.


Appeal to Motive fallacy.

I'm sure the actual reason, along with mine, is that she wasn't some ridiculous ill-proportionate or forced "sexy" female character and didn't need to be.

Before and after:

http://journeyintoawesome.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/amanda-waller-dc-comics.jpg

The actual reasons are:

1. Everything DC touches now is destroyed. It's called "New 52"
2. Suicide Squad, or the "Let's make Harley Quinn a Porn Star" Comic.
3. Haha the 90ies Dork Age was the peak of Comics and we really should emulate it as much as possible.

Man on Fire
2013-08-23, 12:46 PM
Appeal to Motive fallacy.

I'm sure the actual reason, along with mine, is that she wasn't some ridiculous ill-proportionate or forced "sexy" female character and didn't need to be.

But he's saying he loathes Suicide Squad from 1987. the one in which Waller is round and the one which made her walking awesomness I keep praising. It's completely different comics from New 52 revamp that did horrible things to everyone involved.

Kitten Champion
2013-08-23, 01:09 PM
Before and after:

http://journeyintoawesome.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/amanda-waller-dc-comics.jpg

The actual reasons are:

1. Everything DC touches now is destroyed. It's called "New 52"
2. Suicide Squad, or the "Let's make Harley Quinn a Porn Star" Comic.
3. Haha the 90ies Dork Age was the peak of Comics and we really should emulate it as much as possible.

Wait... that's Amanda Waller? I liked her in the DCAU. If nothing else, she definitely stood out. CCH Pounder gave her real vitality, and her expressions in the animation had a lot of visual impact. When I tried the first issue of the New 52 Suicide Squad I didn't even connect the two.

They've turned her into that? I'm not even a DC fan and I still feel like that's a slap in the face. What a horrible message they're conveying, and I thought the fetishized Harley Quinn was the worst of it.

Man on Fire
2013-08-23, 01:32 PM
Wait... that's Amanda Waller? I liked her in the DCAU. If nothing else, she definitely stood out. CCH Pounder gave her real vitality, and her expressions in the animation had a lot of visual impact. When I tried the first issue of the New 52 Suicide Squad I didn't even connect the two.

They've turned her into that? I'm not even a DC fan and I still feel like that's a slap in the face. What a horrible message they're conveying, and I thought the fetishized Harley Quinn was the worst of it.

Funny because both of them happened in New 52 Suicide Squad (I will reffer to it as Suicide Squad 2011 from now on), boo kthat is slap to the face to all fans of 1987 Suicide Squad, the one I was talking about. And I did specified which Waller I put on the list.

Here, have some bits of real Amanda Waller
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2012/05/squad10.jpg
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2012/05/squad10.jpg
http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/8/88/Amanda_Waller_004.jpg
http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/6/6b/Amanda_Waller_005.jpg

Forum Explorer
2013-08-23, 03:08 PM
Why? I'm only halfway through it and love every single page. Don't tell me you're one of those Batgod fanboys wh ocannot accept Waller made him back down and Flag beat the living turd out of him.

Well what they did to Waller is pretty unacceptable. I don't even read comics and I'm insulted by it.

Regardless she is awesome enough (past Waller) to get my vote now that I recognize her.

Porthos
2013-08-23, 03:09 PM
Looks like they toning it down slightly:

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/rsz_imagesamandawallernew52_6920.jpg

As well as trying to pull a "this is when she's young and early in her career" card.

I'll see if they start putting weight on her as the issues go by. I remain... skeptical. :smallsmile:

As is, yeah this was a pretty stupid change to attract everyone who now thinks The Wall is Angela Bassett from the Green Lantern movie for no good reason.

Man on Fire
2013-08-23, 03:41 PM
Well what they did to Waller is pretty unacceptable. I don't even read comics and I'm insulted by it.

I meant Suicide Squad from 1987, not the book from 2011. How could I even be halfway through an ongoing book with no visible end?

Forum Explorer
2013-08-23, 03:57 PM
I meant Suicide Squad from 1987, not the book from 2011. How could I even be halfway through an ongoing book with no visible end?

I mean what they changed in the 2011 book was insulting and I haven't even read either of the series.

Kitten Champion
2013-08-23, 04:04 PM
Looks like they toning it down slightly:

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/rsz_imagesamandawallernew52_6920.jpg

As well as trying to pull a "this is when she's young and early in her career" card.

I'll see if they start putting weight on her as the issues go by. I remain... skeptical. :smallsmile:

As is, yeah this was a pretty stupid change to attract everyone who now thinks The Wall is Angela Bassett from the Green Lantern movie for no good reason.

She just seems like Maria Hill now, the meanest version thereof. At least that was my thought before I knew who she was supposed to be rebooting.

Anyways, I've edited my vote. Although I'd rather vote for CCH Pounder or Angela Bassett.

Man on Fire
2013-08-23, 04:22 PM
I mean what they changed in the 2011 book was insulting and I haven't even read either of the series.

I highly recommend 1987 series, I'm aroung 37th out of 67 issues and it's been fantastic co far.

Tanuki Tales
2013-08-24, 08:16 AM
But he's saying he loathes Suicide Squad from 1987. the one in which Waller is round and the one which made her walking awesomness I keep praising. It's completely different comics from New 52 revamp that did horrible things to everyone involved.


No, he said he...hated what the New 52 one did.

Which is what I responded to.

He doesn't like Suicide Squad as a whole and just didn't care for her. That's completely different.

Finn Solomon
2013-08-24, 01:02 PM
SELECTED MATCH COMMENTARY:

The Wicked Witch of the West vs Radical Edward

"You're my prisoner! That means you'll do what I say!" yelled Elphaba, shaking her fist at the skinny girl with the crazy red hair and goggles and who reminded her of one of her flying monkeys with its wings cut off.

Edward Wong Hau Pepelu Tivrusky the Fourth completely ignored the funny lady with the green skin and rolled over to a bucket of water. Laughing happily, she snatched it up and sloshed it everywhere just because she wanted to.

The Wicked Witch of the West started to melt into a pile of goo. "I'll get you my pretty, and your little dog too!"

"Mm, more pudding!"

Princess Leia Organa vs Hanako Ikezawa

The Princess of Alderaan knew she wasn't as good a shot as Han, or the skill of her brother Luke with a lightsaber, but she hadn't reckoned on the strange girl with long purple hair and horrible burn scars all around the left side of her body to put up a fight as much as she did. They stalked each other through the dark corridors, each straining every sense not to be taken unawares.

"How did you get those scars anyway?" asked Leia, trying to draw the girl out of seclusion. "Did you get burned up on Mustafar like my father?"

There was a sharp intake of breath, then Hanako rushed at her.

"Get out! Get out!"

Whether it was Han's coaching or her Jedi senses she wouldn't know, but Leia got off a shot just in time. Breathing heavily, she prepared herself for the next bout.

Black Widow vs Kaylee Frye

Natasha stood alone by herself at the bar, swirling her drink irritably. She thought she had this contest in the bag. After all she was sexy, Russian-accented, also had red-hair, and was wearing a slinky little black thing. But apparently all the guys would rather listen to the cheerful mechanic go on about starships and engines for hours.

Elizabeth Bennett vs Princess Azula

"...so in the end I realised that even though I thought I hated Mr Darcy for perfectly good reasons, I was in actual fact head-over-heels in love with him, as much as any one woman could, and I was absolutely elated when he -"

The pretty young English lady was promptly turned into a small pile of ash.

"I don't care," said the Terror of the Fire Nation.

Skyler White vs Cersei Lannister

"Why are you here?" asked the Queen Regent irritably. She hated court business at the best of times, and dealing with supplicants was the most hated part of it.

The other blonde woman approached the Iron Throne nervously. "Your Grace, I beg you to do something about my husband, who has stopped his peaceful life of teaching chemistry and begun dealing in meth instead."

"Your husband?"

"Yes."

"The bald fellow with the moustache?"

"Yes, your Grace."

"A fine jape indeed," snapped Cersei. "He looks as though he couldn't hurt a fly. Guards, bring her to Lord Qyburn immediately!"

Professor Minerva McGonagall vs Professor River Song

The woman with the big hair, jodhpurs and most importantly, a big gun had appeared suddenly in the Hogwarts Library, claiming to be looking for someone. Madam Pince had fled shrieking out of the library and when Professor McGonagall had gone in to investigate, the woman had taken aim and fired at her, and she had barely managed to get out of the way.

"Who are you?" demanded Minerva, her glasses knocked askew, her own hair coming out of its normally neat bun.

"Professor River Song. Archaeologist. Love a tomb."

"This isn't a tomb, as you might have noticed. It's a library!"

"I hate libraries."

There was one way to end this. McGonagall launched herself at the other Professor, who was shocked at the sudden direct attack and didn't react in time. Turning into a cat while still in the air, Minerva darted between River's legs and changed back to human on the other side. River had enough time to turn around before being blasted by McGonagall's hex.

The Professor of Transfiguration picked herself up and dusted herself off. There were still some people who thought her Animagus of a tabby cat wasn't all that threatening. Those people were wrong.

THANK YOU ALL FOR VOTING! There were a lot of close matches, some absolute blow-outs, and every single nominee managed at least one vote, with the exception of poor Skyler White. Where there were ties, I flipped a coin. The hundred become fifty, and here are your survivors!

Balsa
Holo the Wise Wolf
Radical Edward
M
Katara
Amanda Waller
Echo
Mulan
Ronica Vestrit
Ellen Ripley
Holly Short
Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
Yu Shu Lien
The Lady
Princess Leia Organa
Eowyn
Amelia Pond
Granny Weatherwax
Laurana Kanan
Clarice Starling
Kaylee Frye
Hit Girl
Jadzia Dax
Samus Aran
Azula
Labrys
Celes Chere
Cersei Lannister
Sophie Hatter
River Tam
Susan Ivanova
C. J. Cregg
Chihiro
Death of the Endless
Arya Stark
Kallen Kozuki
Tomoko Kuroki
Agatha Heterodyne
Kerrigan
Aeryn Sun
Jaheira
Toph Bei Fong
Antimony Carver
Erza Scarlet
Captain Marvel
Weiss Schnee
Professor Minerva McGonagall
Tali'Zorah
Willow Rosenberg
Rin Tezuka

I was legit shocked that the Boss didn't survive, as I consider her one of the best written female characters of all time, of any medium. And Commander Shepard didn't survive? Nooooooo!

Without further ado, the Random Number God shall determine the next round of voting.

The First Ten

Can a Pond beat the Princess of Fire? And the master of Headology versus a Master of the Force!

Amelia Pond (Doctor Who) vs Princess Azula (Avatar)
Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh)
Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!) vs Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars)

The Second Ten

Snarky gun-wielding Peacekeeper versus a snarky gun-wielding secret agency head. Two fantasy heroines go head to head.

Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5) vs Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf)
Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Weiss Schnee (RBWY)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)

The Third Ten

The Waterbender goes up against the best darn Transfiguration expert there is.

Katara (Avatar) vs Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Samus Aran (Metroid)
Clarice Starling (Silence of the Lambs) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings)
Jaheira (Forgotten Realms) vs Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass)

The Fourth Ten

A genius takes on a Girl Genius! Two girls with daddy issues!

The Lady (Black Company) vs Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine)
Hit Girl (Kickass) vs Mulan (Disney)
River Tam (Firefly) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
M (James Bond) vs Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court)
Labrys (Persona 4) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)

The Fifth Ten

Biggest match-up (in terms of popularity) to date!

Arya Stark (Game of Thrones) vs C. J. Cregg (The West Wing)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop) vs Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics)
Ellen Ripley (Alien) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)

Voting is open guys! You have five days!

Haleyintraining
2013-08-24, 02:33 PM
The First Ten

Amelia Pond vs Azula
Willow Rosenberg vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
Yu Shu Lien vs Balsa
Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet
Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa

The Second Ten

Susan Ivanova vs Holo the Wise Wolf
Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee
Aeryn Sun vs Amanda Waller
Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn
Sophie Hatter vs Celes Chere

The Third Ten

Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall
Chihiro vs Samus Aran
Clarice Starling vs Cersei Lannister
Rin Tezuka vs Ronica Vestrit
Jaheira vs Kallen Kozuki

The Fourth Ten

The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
Hit Girl vs Mulan
River Tam vs Agatha Heterodyne
M vs Antimony Carver
Labrys vs Kerrigan

The Fifth Ten

Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg
Tali'Zorah vs Holly Short
Radical Edward vs Captain Marvel
Ellen Ripley vs Kaylee Frye
Echo vs Death of the Endless

Tanuki Tales
2013-08-24, 02:46 PM
Well, my interest is lost.

Have fun with the contest everyone. :smallsmile:

Hiro Protagonest
2013-08-24, 02:53 PM
The First Ten

Amelia Pond vs Azula
Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa

The Second Ten

As much as I want to like Weiss' character, it's just not deep enough yet. RWBY is too young.

Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee

The Third Ten

Chihiro vs Samus Aran

Terraoblivion
2013-08-24, 02:53 PM
Well, Holo is an incredibly beloved character by pretty much everyone who has ever read or watched Spice and Wolf, while the Boss is somewhat more controversial, so I'm not sure that it was shocking. Except maybe the part where a lot of people actually knows Spice and Wolf.

The First Ten
Amelia Pond vs Azula
Willow Rosenberg vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
Yu Shu Lien vs Balsa
Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet
Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa

The Second Ten
Susan Ivanova vs Holo the Wise Wolf
Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee
Aeryn Sun vs Amanda Waller
Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn
Sophie Hatter vs Celes Chere

The Third Ten
Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall
Chihiro vs Samus Aran
Clarice Starling vs Cersei Lannister
Rin Tezuka vs Ronica Vestrit
Jaheira vs Kallen Kozuki

The Fourth Ten
The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
Hit Girl vs Mulan
River Tam vs Agatha Heterodyne
M vs Antimony Carver
Labrys vs Kerrigan

The Fifth Ten
Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg
Tali'Zorah vs Holly Short
Radical Edward vs Captain Marvel
Ellen Ripley vs Kaylee Frye
Echo vs Death of the Endless

God, so many of my favorites gone in a single round. :smalltongue:

Although, mostly in battles with very worthy opponents. I mean, as much as I might have loved to see Lightning continue, I voted against her because she went up against someone I like even better and Nenene losing to most iconic female action hero of all time isn't really something I can complain much about either.

Sanguine
2013-08-24, 03:06 PM
The First Ten
Amelia Pond vs Azula
Willow Rosenberg vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
Yu Shu Lien vs Balsa
Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet
Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa

The Second Ten

Susan Ivanova vs Holo the Wise Wolf
Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee
Aeryn Sun vs Amanda Waller
Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn
Sophie Hatter vs Celes Chere

The Third Ten

Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall
Chihiro vs Samus Aran
Clarice Starling vs Cersei Lannister
Rin Tezuka vs Ronica Vestrit
Jaheira vs Kallen Kozuki

The Fourth Ten

The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
Hit Girl vs Mulan
River Tam vs Agatha Heterodyne
M vs Antimony Carver
Labrys vs Kerrigan

The Fifth Ten

Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg
Tali'Zorah vs Holly Short
Radical Edward vs Captain Marvel
Ellen Ripley vs Kaylee Frye
Echo vs Death of the Endless

Silva Stormrage
2013-08-24, 03:16 PM
The First Ten

Amelia Pond vs Azula
Willow Rosenberg vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
Yu Shu Lien vs Balsa
Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet
Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa

The Second Ten

Susan Ivanova vs Holo the Wise Wolf
Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee
Aeryn Sun vs Amanda Waller
Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn
Sophie Hatter vs Celes Chere

The Third Ten


Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall
Chihiro vs Samus Aran
Clarice Starling vs Cersei Lannister
Rin Tezuka vs Ronica Vestrit
Jaheira vs Kallen Kozuki

The Fourth Ten


The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
Hit Girl vs Mulan
River Tam vs Agatha Heterodyne
M vs Antimony Carver
Labrys vs Kerrigan

The Fifth Ten


Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg
Tali'Zorah vs Holly Short
Radical Edward vs Captain Marvel
Ellen Ripley vs Kaylee Frye
Echo vs Death of the Endless

Kitten Champion
2013-08-24, 03:27 PM
Amelia Pond vs Azula
Willow Rosenberg vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
Yu Shu Lien vs Balsa
Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet
Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa

Susan Ivanova vs Holo the Wise Wolf
Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee
Aeryn Sun vs Amanda Waller
Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn
Sophie Hatter vs Celes Chere

Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall
Chihiro vs Samus Aran
Clarice Starling vs Cersei Lannister
Rin Tezuka vs Ronica Vestrit
Jaheira vs Kallen Kozuki

The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
Hit Girl vs Mulan
River Tam vs Agatha Heterodyne
M vs Antimony Carver
Labrys vs Kerrigan

Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg
Tali'Zorah vs Holly Short
Radical Edward vs Captain Marvel
Ellen Ripley vs Kaylee Frye
Echo vs Death of the Endless

I have a real problem deciding between Captain Marvel and Edward, since I love both as characters. The fact that Captain Marvel keeps getting better as a character over time has pushed me in her direction.

bguy
2013-08-24, 03:27 PM
The First Ten

Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa

The Second Ten

Susan Ivanova vs Holo the Wise Wolf
Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn

Eowyn and Laurana are both brave fighters who have faced down and defeated seemingly much more powerful adversaries. But Laurana is also a brilliant military commander, so she is more talented and accomplished than Eowyn is. And besides,

Merry really did most of the work in taking out the Witch-King for Eowyn.

The Third Ten

Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall
Clarice Starling vs Cersei Lannister

The Fourth Ten

The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
Hit Girl vs Mulan

The Fifth Ten

Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg

Kato
2013-08-24, 03:38 PM
THANK YOU ALL FOR VOTING! There were a lot of close matches, some absolute blow-outs, and every single nominee managed at least one vote, with the exception of poor Skyler White.
Huh, I'm a bit surprised... I couldn't pick in that fight but I always consideres Skyler to be quite as unlikeable as Cersei...


I was legit shocked that the Boss didn't survive, as I consider her one of the best written female characters of all time, of any medium. And Commander Shepard didn't survive? Nooooooo!
I feel sorry for the Boss but really don't care about Shephard... I'm way too happy Celes made it.

The First Ten

Amelia Pond vs Azula
Effing RNG! I like Amy a lot but Azula just is more interesting and even more fun to watch.
Willow Rosenberg vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
Okay, I'll go for Willow here but... I guess Osaka's strong competition.

Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet
Have to go with Erza even if I don't know Kuroki... It's biased but I just like her.

Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa
Well, I'm definitely curious how THIS will end...


The Second Ten

Susan Ivanova vs Holo the Wise Wolf
I think I'll abstain on that one... My money's on Holo, though.

Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee
I... have no idea who Weiss Schnee is. *google* Ah, okay... I guess I really need to have a look at that show at some point...

Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn
I'd like to vote for Eowyn but... I don't feel strongly enough in her favor.

Sophie Hatter vs Celes Chere
I don't know Sophie but... it's Celes.

The Third Ten

Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall
Just... not that much of a Potter fan. But I guess this might be pretty even in the end.

Chihiro vs Samus Aran
Samus, clearly.

Clarice Starling vs Cersei Lannister
This time not a bitch battle...

Jaheira vs Kallen Kozuki

The Fourth Ten

The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
The Lady? How come I don't recall her from the last round? What Lady? The one whose name shall not be mentioned? :smallconfused:

Hit Girl vs Mulan
Hm... I can't decide.. both have their ups and downs...


The Fifth Ten

Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg
Radical Edward vs Captain Marvel
Okay, I was going not to vote on these two first but... Arya and Ed are just too entertaining to watch.

Ellen Ripley vs Kaylee Frye
Urgh, put thumbscrews on me, why don't you? :smallmad: Badass vs... Cuteass? Maybe later...

Forum Explorer
2013-08-24, 03:54 PM
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The First Ten

Can a Pond beat the Princess of Fire? And the master of Headology versus a Master of the Force!

Amelia Pond vs Azula
Willow Rosenberg vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
Yu Shu Lien vs Balsa
Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet
Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa

The Second Ten

Snarky gun-wielding Peacekeeper versus a snarky gun-wielding secret agency head.

Susan Ivanova vs Holo the Wise Wolf
Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee
Aeryn Sun vs Amanda Waller
Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn
Sophie Hatter vs Celes Chere

The Third Ten

The Waterbender goes up against the best darn Transfiguration expert there is.

Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall
Chihiro vs Samus Aran
Clarice Starling vs Cersei Lannister
Rin Tezuka vs Ronica Vestrit
Jaheira vs Kallen Kozuki

The Fourth Ten

A genius takes on a Girl Genius!

The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
Hit Girl vs Mulan
River Tam vs Agatha Heterodyne
M vs Antimony Carver
Labrys vs Kerrigan

The Fifth Ten

Biggest match-up (in terms of popularity) to date!

Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg
Tali'Zorah vs Holly Short
Radical Edward vs Captain Marvel
Ellen Ripley vs Kaylee Frye
Echo vs Death of the Endless

In the future can you make sure to include the source of the characters? With just the name I forget who they are sometimes.

Fable Wright
2013-08-24, 03:57 PM
The First Ten
Amelia Pond vs Azula
Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet
Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa

The Second Ten

Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee


The Third Ten

Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall

The Fourth Ten

River Tam vs Agatha Heterodyne
M vs Antimony Carver

The Fifth Ten


Tali'Zorah vs Holly Short
Echo vs Death of the Endless

Man on Fire
2013-08-24, 04:24 PM
Wow, I'm geniuqely suprised so many of my picks got through to the second round. I must say I was suprised to see Kallen defeating Harley, especially I didn't had time to write post about her. Last time I doubted you, Kallen. Shame for Nico and Saber, but don't worry, they'll be avenged.

The First Ten

Amelia Pond vs Azula
Willow Rosenberg vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
Yu Shu Lien vs Balsa
Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet
Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa

The Second Ten

I hope this spaceship too will crash agaisnt the Wall.

Susan Ivanova vs Holo the Wise Wolf
Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee
Aeryn Sun vs Amanda Waller
Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn
Sophie Hatter vs Celes Chere

The Third Ten

Jaheira vs Kallen. Why did you do this to me?!

Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall
Chihiro vs Samus Aran
Clarice Starling vs Cersei Lannister
Rin Tezuka vs Ronica Vestrit
Jaheira vs Kallen Kozuki

The Fourth Ten

The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
Hit Girl vs Mulan
River Tam vs Agatha Heterodyne
M vs Antimony Carver
Labrys vs Kerrigan

The Fifth Ten

Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg
Tali'Zorah vs Holly Short
Radical Edward vs Captain Marvel
Ellen Ripley vs Kaylee Frye
Echo vs Death of the Endless

Olinser
2013-08-24, 05:01 PM
The First Ten



Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet


The Second Ten


Sophie Hatter vs Celes Chere
The Third Ten


Chihiro vs Samus Aran


The Fourth Ten

Labrys vs Kerrigan

Zevox
2013-08-24, 05:10 PM
:smallfrown: Damn, Naoto and Mitsuru down in round 1? That's awful. At least Labrys and the Avatar girls survived, but sheesh, my favorite's out already.


And Commander Shepard didn't survive? Nooooooo!
I'm rather happy about that myself, honestly. Wouldn't want a character without any actual set character winning any awards, personally.


The First Ten

Amelia Pond vs Azula

Don't know her opponent, but Azula was a fantastic villain, so I'll be voting for her regardless. Only other character I recognize from this bunch is Princess Leia though, and I'm not fond enough of her to vote for her when I don't know her opponent.

The Second Ten

Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee
Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn

I know, the guy with the Toph ponytar voting for Toph, what a shocker. But yeah, beyond those two the only person in this batch I'm familiar with is Amanda Waller, and her only from the Justice League cartoon, which didn't really give me much reason to like her.

The Third Ten

Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall

And the last Avatar girl to vote for. Only other character in this bunch I'm familiar with is Samus, and well, I already gave my opinion on her last time. I think the only characters I'd vote for her over if she were paired with were eliminated already.

The Fourth Ten

Labrys vs Kerrigan

A lone survivor again, eh Labrys? This time of the Persona nominees for this competition. Rough opponent here too, popularity-wise. Though I'll admit I don't know why Kerrigan is so popular. I mean, I've played all of Starcraft save Heart of the Swarm, and she was an okay villain, but never anything I considered special.

Only other character I'm familiar with is Mulan, and again, since she's paired against someone I don't recognize and I'm not that big of a fan, I'll abstain from voting for her.

The Fifth Ten


Biggest match-up (in terms of popularity) to date!
:smallconfused: Which one would that be? I honestly have no idea.

Tali'Zorah vs Holly Short

Like Tali, don't know her opponent, but I do particularly want her to fail if only because I recognize her as the one that Naoto was up against last time.

Not familiar with anybody else in this batch, unless you count being vaguely aware of who Carrol Danvers (Captain Marvel) is from wikipedia articles, or having seen "Edward" in To Boldly Flee.

oblivion6
2013-08-24, 05:38 PM
I just knew Skitter wouldn't make it past Round One. Not enough support.

The First Ten
Amelia Pond vs Azula
Willow Rosenberg vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga

The Second Ten

Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee
Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn

The Third Ten

Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall(I refuse to choose!)
Clarice Starling vs Cersei Lannister

The Fifth Ten

Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg
Tali'Zorah vs [/b]Holly Short[/b]

SaintRidley
2013-08-24, 07:23 PM
The Second Ten

Snarky gun-wielding Peacekeeper versus a snarky gun-wielding secret agency head.


Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn


The Third Ten

The Waterbender goes up against the best darn Transfiguration expert there is.

Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall
Chihiro vs Samus Aran


The Fourth Ten

A genius takes on a Girl Genius!

The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
Hit Girl vs Mulan
Labrys vs Kerrigan

The Fifth Ten

Biggest match-up (in terms of popularity) to date!

Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg
Radical Edward vs Captain Marvel
Ellen Ripley vs Kaylee Frye
Echo vs Death of the Endless

Dienekes
2013-08-24, 08:10 PM
Well, my interest is lost.

Have fun with the contest everyone. :smallsmile:

I almost know how you feel. My favorite female character in any medium got knocked out against a manga character I never heard of. Only one person voted for poor Atia, one of the greatest schemers and manipulators during the rise of Caesar and Augustus. Oh well.

Alright keeping my vow to only vote when I know both characters. Let's do this.

The First Ten
Amelia Pond vs Azula
Azula has more depth, but I really lost interest in her when she went coocoo for cocoa puffs. I still like the Ponds, despite the poor showing of their last season. So Amelia gets it.

Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet
I really want to vote against Erza as revenge for Atia. But don't know either of them. I hope you burn Erza.

Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa
No contest. Leia was great for her time, the damsel princess taking complete charge of her rescue while back talking and pointing out the flaws in her rescuers plans? Brilliant. After that she was just sort of a generic good chick in a love triangle though. But Weatherwax is just great.



The Second Ten

Didn't know at least one in each fight.

The Third Ten

Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall
Katara's the boring one of Avatar. McGonagall isn't much better but she's gotten a laugh out of me at least.

Clarice Starling vs Cersei Lannister
Damn this one was tough. But ultimately Cersei is more fun to read, and her descent to stupid insanity can be downright hilarious. Though Clarice taking part in Hannibal's dietary habits was pretty fun too. Ehhh, I'm sticking with my gut on this one. The Lannister stays.


The Fourth Ten

The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
Hit Girl vs Mulan


The Fifth Ten

Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg
I really need to start watching West Wing.

Tali'Zorah vs Holly Short
Tali was ok. I know she's the most creepily popular character to come out of the ME series. But ehh, she never really did anything for me. And I enjoyed Holly's interactions with the rest of the Fowl cast.

Ellen Ripley vs Kaylee Frye
One of the strongest female protagonists who goes through hell several times over, or that girl whose major story arc involves being annoying to the guy she wants to lay. Yeah. No contest.

Echo vs Death of the Endless
Heh, one of the flatest characters Whedon's ever written vs the greatest interpretation of Death ever (yes that includes Discworld's). Death reaps Echo.

RCgothic
2013-08-25, 04:47 AM
The First Ten

Amelia Pond vs Azula
Willow Rosenberg vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
Yu Shu Lien vs Balsa
Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet
Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa

The Second Ten

Susan Ivanova vs Holo the Wise Wolf
Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee
Aeryn Sun vs Amanda Waller
Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn
Sophie Hatter vs Celes Chere

The Third Ten

Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall
Chihiro vs Samus Aran
Clarice Starling vs Cersei Lannister
Rin Tezuka vs Ronica Vestrit
Jaheira vs Kallen Kozuki

The Fourth Ten

The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
Hit Girl vs Mulan
River Tam vs Agatha Heterodyne
M vs Antimony Carver
Labrys vs Kerrigan

The Fifth Ten

Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg
Tali'Zorah vs Holly Short
Radical Edward vs Captain Marvel
Ellen Ripley vs Kaylee Frye
Echo vs Death of the Endless

SuperPanda
2013-08-25, 05:19 AM
Votes:
1.1 Amelia Pond vs Azula
1.2 Pass - Don't know enough to vote fairly
1.3 Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger) vs Balsa (Guardian)
1.4 Pass - Don't know enough to vote fairly
1.5 Granny Weatherwax (discworld) vs Princess Leia Organa (star Wars)

2.1 Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5) vs Holo the Wise Wolf (spice and wolf)
2.2 Toph Bei Fong (A:tlA) vs Weiss Schnee (RWYB)
2.3 Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs Amanda Waller (DC)
2.4 Laurana Kanan (dragonlance) vs Eowyn (LoTR)
2.5 Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle) vs Celes Chere (FFVI)

3.1 Katara (A:tLA) vs Professor Minerva McGonagall (HP)
3.2 Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Samus Aran (Metroid)
3.3 Clarice Starling (Silence of the lambs) vs Cersei Lannister (GoT)
3.4 Pass - Don't know enough to vote fairly
3.5 Jaheira (Baldur's Gate) vs Kallen Kozuki (Code Gaes)

4.1 The Lady (Black Company) vs Jadzia Dax (ST:DS9)
4.2 Hit Girl (KA) vs Fa Mulan (Mulan)
4.3 River Tam (Firefly) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
4.4 M (Bond) vs Antimony Carver Gunnerkrigg Court
4.5 Labrys ( Persona 4 Arena) vs Kerrigan (Star Craft)

5.1 Arya Stark (GoT)vs C. J. Cregg (West Wing)
5.2 Retcon - discussion on the forum made me realize I couldn't vote fairly for this as I'm not willing to read Tali's wiki and risk spoilers for Mass Effect when I finally have time to play (and copies of the games).

Original vote in spoiler for no good reason (including not being sure if I'm aloud to retcon a vote).
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)

5.3 Radical Edward (Cowboy Beebop) vs Captain Marvel (Marvel?)
5.4 Ellen Ripley (Alien) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
5.5 Echo (Doll House) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)


Comments: Everything stated below is entirely my oppinion and I'm more than happy to discuss it, not likely to change votes though.

1.1 - Hard choice, really hard. Amy worked really well as a contrast to Smith's Doctor and Rory. Azula on the other hand was a full on sociopath who was downright scary even when she was not physically imposing (When she recruited Ty Lee and the way she trapped Zuko in early Season 2 made her scary because she was a smart villain.

Azula wins because she managed to be physically intimidating, psychologically intimidating, mystically intimidating, and ultimately failed not because she was a girl but because she forgot that there is a limit to how far you can push people with fear. Her gender was never an important part of her character while "Hot girl" was a pretty important part of Amy's alot of the time. Very close one though.

1.5 While I still prefer Nanny Ogg and Tifany Aching as character's to Granny, she's got this one in the bag. About the only reason I'd have to vote for Leia is that she's the only important non-slave woman in the Star Wars movies apart from her mom.

2.2 Weiss might have a chance in a little bit for this, but Toph just has so much going for her. I love the fleeting moments where its clear she wants to be girly and attractive and the abrasive way she avoids those things out of insecurity. I've love a short series about her romance which we know happened at some point.

2.3 Really hard call. I like Farscape far better than DC, but a show / series focused on Waller would be awesome.

2.5 Was going to give this to Celes for FFVI's power on its own merit. Celes is an awesome character, one of the best from a game of fun memerable characters. But Sophie was just so interesting to watch. The strength of her character to find goodness in the world despite her horrible misfortune was amazing.

3.1 Evil choosing it is. McGonagle simply didn't get enough character to win over a full on protagonist like Katara. Yes, she was really annoying at different times in the story in that she was very bossy and work-focused, and serious... then again, they were on a quest to save the world and she'd grown up in terror of having her home wiped out because Aang was 100 years late to the party... and she has to deal with Sokka's laundry.

3.2 Neither character is of themselves really powerful to me. I like Chihiro, she's sweet and nice and has a big heart (and you can see above that I like that)... but she wins not because of being fantastic but because the only thing I know about Samus is that she has a big gun/arm/thing and likes to shoot flying brain critters (and is fun to eat as Kirby in Supersmash brothers). Even after playing some of her games (early ones) I know next to nothing about her.

3.3 Two manipulative women who manuver powerful men into vulderable positions. I like to root for the uderdog and while both women could fit that bill Clarice is the only one I can root for. Cersei is interesting and I sympathize with her to a point, but she's also just as nasty to others as people are to her.

4.2 Little girl who kills people (crime fighter style) because she's been taught to by her dad (Almost certainly mentally damaged in the process) or young woman who set out to fight in her aging father's place, serve her country, and find herself and subsequently turns out to be a Hero... With my tastes and preferences, no contest.

4.3 See above. I'm not a huge fan of traumatized children as characters. Someone like Gary from Alpha's who is just different can be really facinating... but abused children tends to make me feel too quesy to get excited about the interesting ways they are broken. Now with Hit Girl this would be arguable, but with River it isn't. She was sold by her parents, terribly violated to make her what she is, and then freed by her brother. If River was just a superhero whose downside was that she couldn't process information the same as others she'd be interesting. Its a shame though since I love so many of Whedon's women that River didn't work better for me. I'm sure I would have grown to love the character if she'd had a chance to get further through the healing process.

Now... I'm still going to vote for Arya, but I see the two as very different.

5.1 Arya... my possible exception to the Traumatized child thing above. Arya was beaten but (and this is important) not broken by the evils of her world. While she hasn't accomplished a great deal so far and what she has done as been with the help of others. She's driven by hate but not controlled by it, haunted by the horrors she's seen but not consumed by them.

5.4 Another hard choice. Kaylee is just plain better written than Ripley is for my tastes at the end of the day. I love Ripley for the awesome action hero she is (up until Aliens 4 at which point it was just plain silly). Kaylee as a character just has more range. I can imagine her pulling enough action hero stuff to survive (as she does in Serenity) while also having a desire for romance. She's strong, smart, and loyal if a little clumsy socially, she's still more than able to get the job done. My favorite character on Serenity short of Wash (who is no longer a leaf on the wind... turns out Whedon could take the sky from him).

Forum Explorer
2013-08-25, 05:28 AM
Votes:
1.1 Amelia Pond vs Azula
1.2 Pass - Don't know enough to vote fairly
1.3 Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger) vs Balsa (Guardian)
1.4 Pass - Don't know enough to vote fairly
1.5 Granny Weatherwax (discworld) vs Princess Leia Organa (star Wars)

2.1 Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5) vs Holo the Wise Wolf (spice and wolf)
2.2 Toph Bei Fong (A:tlA) vs Weiss Schnee (RWYB)
2.3 Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs Amanda Waller (DC)
2.4 Laurana Kanan (dragonlance) vs Eowyn (LoTR)
2.5 Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle) vs Celes Chere (FFVI)

3.1 Katara (A:tLA) vs Professor Minerva McGonagall (HP)
3.2 Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Samus Aran (Metroid)
3.3 Clarice Starling (Silence of the lambs) vs Cersei Lannister (GoT)
3.4 Pass - Don't know enough to vote fairly
3.5 Jaheira (Baldur's Gate) vs Kallen Kozuki (Code Gaes)

4.1 The Lady (Black Company) vs Jadzia Dax (ST:DS9)
4.2 Hit Girl (KA) vs Fa Mulan (Mulan)
4.3 River Tam (Firefly) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
4.4 M (Bond) vs Antimony Carver Gunnerkrigg Court
4.5 Labrys ( Persona 4 Arena) vs Kerrigan (Star Craft)

5.1 Arya Stark (GoT)vs C. J. Cregg (West Wing)
5.2 Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
5.3 Radical Edward (Cowboy Beebop) vs Captain Marvel (Marvel?)
5.4 Ellen Ripley (Alien) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
5.5 Echo (Doll House) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)



No comment on 5.2? Would you care to elaborate?

SuperPanda
2013-08-25, 05:45 AM
5.2 was a case of knowing both characters just a little (haven't had a chance to play Mass Effect yet and only having a passing awareness of Artimis Fowl) but of the little I knew Holly sounded more interesting. I probably should go back and remove my vote entirely from 5.2 because I don't really know either of them well enough to love or hate them. Off hand I'm more interested in Holly than Tali (though thats more about the medium than it is about character).

:smalltongue:

4.5 is the only other one where I don't know both characters terribly well (but in that case I genuinely want to get into Persona and haven't had the time yet while I was never felt story was a strong part of Starcraft).

bguy
2013-08-25, 08:51 AM
5.2 was a case of knowing both characters just a little (haven't had a chance to play Mass Effect yet and only having a passing awareness of Artimis Fowl) but of the little I knew Holly sounded more interesting. I probably should go back and remove my vote entirely from 5.2 because I don't really know either of them well enough to love or hate them. Off hand I'm more interested in Holly than Tali (though thats more about the medium than it is about character).

:smalltongue:

4.5 is the only other one where I don't know both characters terribly well (but in that case I genuinely want to get into Persona and haven't had the time yet while I was never felt story was a strong part of Starcraft).

What about 2.4? Any commentary on your vote for that one?

SuperPanda
2013-08-25, 09:37 AM
2.4 Laurana Kanan (dragonlance) vs Eowyn (LoTR)

Was a case of an impressive sounding character from a fictional world which never really caught me and a real feeling character who was one of the few who defied their role in life, thematically fit within the greater themes of the books she was part of, and was really an odd fit considering the time and genre conventions she was being written for.

Dragonlance as a setting never captured me, honestly no DnD setting has captured me (forgotten Realms, Ravenloft, grey sky, ...) Eberron at least makes me smile and look at it sideways but not for long. So part of the case here is the source material being vastly less engaging for me personally.

Now Eowyn gets shamefully little screen time (both films and book) when you consider how wonderfully she fits the greater theme of the story (even those we consider meek, weak, or worthless can change the course of history). Here is a woman who is not meek, weak, or worthless living in a world which thinks women are. She learns to ride and fight because "the women of the plains long ago learned that those who do not live by the sword can still die by them." When ordered to stay home she refuses because the fate the world is something that concerns everyone. Like Mulan she is doing this at a time when it could be disastrous for her (and possibly her family). Tolkein is writing in a time when it is not considered normal to view women as equals (especially as warriors).

This was a case of Laurana Kanan being Eowyn + 5 in terms of her character deeds and abilities, which aren't the part of Eowyn's character I liked her for, without the trials Eowyn had or the thematic imagery of her character resonating with a morality that I embrace. Also I find a normal and largely inexperience newbie standing their ground against an eldritch terror with no magical aid very impressive. I find choosing to go to war because the world needs all the help it can get better than following a boy to war for love. I know Eowyn liked Aaragon, and she later found Faramir, but her motive for going to war wasn't either man, it was to save the world.

Largely though Eowyn won my vote because Tolkien > Dragonlance for me.

While I ate up Tolkein's world (even while feeling he wrote characters other than the Hobbits as pretty bland, loved book Sam) I didn't get far in Dragonlance.

I'm somewhat worried that I come across as anti-action girl... but then there are very few male characters I like because "they punch stuff real good" or action variations on that theme. Sam was my favorite character from the Lord of the Rings. He beat the one ring with Elan like simplicity:

Because if the Ring granted his wish and made a world full of flowers there'd be no where to grow food, and besides a Garden that big would be much too much work for one hobbit to tend.

Tengu_temp
2013-08-25, 10:29 AM
The First Ten
Mokocchi vs Erza? And here I thought the hard choices will be gone in round Two! No vote about that for now.
Amelia Pond vs Azula
Willow Rosenberg vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
Yu Shu Lien vs Balsa
Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet
Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa

The Second Ten
Not much to say here. I'm surprised it's Celes and not Shep, though.
Susan Ivanova vs Holo the Wise Wolf
Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee
Aeryn Sun vs Amanda Waller
Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn
Sophie Hatter vs Celes Chere

The Third Ten
Jaheira got lucky and won by default, I consider it a matter of honor to make sure she drops off now.
Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall
Chihiro vs Samus Aran
Clarice Starling vs Cersei Lannister
Rin Tezuka vs Ronica Vestrit
Jaheira vs Kallen Kozuki

The Fourth Ten
I will consider it a sign of how bad the times have become if Kerrigan wins this. She didn't deserve to even win the first round if you ask me.
The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
Hit Girl vs Mulan
River Tam vs Agatha Heterodyne
M vs Antimony Carver
Labrys vs Kerrigan

The Fifth Ten
I don't know Cregg, but I'm voting against Arya. Also another tough choice with Ripley vs Kaylee, gah.
Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg
Tali'Zorah vs Holly Short
Radical Edward vs Captain Marvel
Ellen Ripley vs Kaylee Frye
Echo vs Death of the Endless

tensai_oni
2013-08-25, 10:33 AM
Hey Finn, for future rounds' resolutions, I suggest writing not only who won from each vs matchup, but what the matchup was just to refresh everyone's memory.

As much as I like Lilly and Hanako, I can live with them being out. Shame about Mami EDIT: Homura (See, this is why I suggested the matchup refreshing thing, I already forgot who was against who) losing to Generic Miyazaki Heroine #17 though. But wait, Mokocchi actually won her first round?

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/008/612/1320630085834.jpg

Now, my round two votes are in bold:

The First Ten

Amelia Pond vs Azula
Willow Rosenberg vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
Yu Shu Lien vs Balsa
Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet
Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa

The Second Ten

Susan Ivanova vs Holo the Wise Wolf
Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee
Aeryn Sun vs Amanda Waller
Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn
Sophie Hatter vs Celes Chere

The Third Ten

Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall
Chihiro vs Samus Aran
Clarice Starling vs Cersei Lannister
Rin Tezuka vs Ronica Vestrit
Jaheira vs Kallen Kozuki

The Fourth Ten

The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
Hit Girl vs Mulan
River Tam vs Agatha Heterodyne
M vs Antimony Carver
Labrys vs Kerrigan

The Fifth Ten

Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg
Tali'Zorah vs Holly Short
Radical Edward vs Captain Marvel
Ellen Ripley vs Kaylee Frye
Echo vs Death of the Endless

Finn Solomon
2013-08-25, 10:38 AM
In the future can you make sure to include the source of the characters? With just the name I forget who they are sometimes.

Sorry fella, it was really late and my eyes were crossing themselves from all the data. I'll do that now.



:smallconfused: Which one would that be? I honestly have no idea.

Ellen Ripley versus Kaywinnet Lee Frye, based on the votes cast.


Hey Finn, for future rounds' resolutions, I suggest writing not only who won from each vs matchup, but what the matchup was just to refresh everyone's memory.

Sure thing mate.

Eldan
2013-08-25, 10:42 AM
Taylor's out in round 1. Clearly, there's no justice in theworld. But then, that only fits a character from Worm, I guess.

The First Ten

Amelia Pond vs Azula
Amy was very good for a season. She might as well go on.

Willow Rosenberg vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
Go with what you know. And she's pretty.

Yu Shu Lien vs Balsa
Here's another one I'd actually like to see win.

Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet
?

Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa
Dull damsel from boring movies or Mistress Weatherwax? No contest.


The Second Ten

Susan Ivanova vs Holo the Wise Wolf
Holo's good. Don't know the other.

Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee
Spite vote. Couldn't stand the episode or two of Avatar I've seen, but that other name still hurts my brain.

Aeryn Sun vs Amanda Waller
Interesting how I still don't know half the people.

Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn
One of the more, well, characterized characters in LotR. Don't know the other.

Sophie Hatter vs Celes Chere
?

The Third Ten

Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall
Nah. McGonagall never did much that was interesting in those books I read.

Chihiro vs Samus Aran
I like that movie, kay?

Clarice Starling vs Cersei Lannister
While I never understood why Clarice gets that much hate, Cersei's more interesting.

Rin Tezuka vs Ronica Vestrit
I nominated her. She's good.

Jaheira vs Kallen Kozuki
Not finale material, but she can have another vote.

The Fourth Ten

The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
?

Hit Girl vs Mulan
Hmm. Now this one needed some thinking. Hit Girl is fun, but not exactly deep.

River Tam vs Agatha Heterodyne
Another one that needed a second or two of thinking. River is very well acted and written, but I think she actually loses a few points for the movie Serenity where she suddenly takes down hordes of cannibals with the power of gymnastics. And Agatha is a lot of fun.

M vs Antimony Carver
?

Labrys vs Kerrigan
?


The Fifth Ten

[SPOILER]Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg
Likeable actress, well-written and up against someone I don't know.

Tali'Zorah vs Holly Short
See above.

Radical Edward vs Captain Marvel
I don't really like Ed that much. She's the weakest character in Bebop, I think. But she's still in Bebop.

Ellen Ripley vs Kaylee Frye
Oooh. Difficult one number three. But I like characters that are fun and happy. Ripley isn't.

Echo vs Death of the Endless
Nooo contest.

paddyfool
2013-08-25, 10:49 AM
The First Ten


Amelia Pond vs Azula
Willow Rosenberg vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa

The Second Ten


Susan Ivanova vs Holo the Wise Wolf
Aeryn Sun vs Amanda Waller
Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn
Sophie Hatter vs Celes Chere

The Third Ten

Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall
Chihiro vs Samus Aran


The Fourth Ten

The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
Hit Girl vs Mulan
River Tam vs Agatha Heterodyne
M vs Antimony Carver


The Fifth Ten
Ouch! Ripley or Kaylee... I really had something of a Kaylee crush by the end of Firefly, but it's got to go to the steel-nerved 80s action heroine.

Ellen Ripley vs Kaylee Frye
Echo vs Death of the Endless

CarpeGuitarrem
2013-08-25, 10:51 AM
*cries*

THE MAHOU SHOUJO WILL BE AVENGED! Somehow.

The First Ten
Amelia Pond vs Azula (Guh. Not a matchup I wanted to vote on. Azula just strikes me as a tad too overdrawn...and I flat-out love Karen Gillian's portrayal of Amy, especially throughout Season 5.)
Willow Rosenberg vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Don't know either well enough to vote, honestly. Only seen a smattering of each character in action.)
Yu Shu Lien vs Balsa (Seems like a pretty similar matchup, but I've only seen Lien in action.)
Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet
Granny Weatherwax vs Princess Leia Organa (I feel as though I'd be doing this matchup a disservice since I am insufficiently schooled in Discworld. I can't feel justified in voting for a character I don't know well, and I can't feel justified in voting against a character in a series with a reputation that precedes it.)

The Second Ten
Susan Ivanova vs Holo the Wise Wolf
Toph Bei Fong vs Weiss Schnee (No contest.)
Aeryn Sun vs Amanda Waller (I haven't seen FS...yet...but I'm sold by the above links of Waller.)
Laurana Kanan vs Eowyn
Sophie Hatter vs Celes Chere (Abstaining. I'm not a big enough fan of Sophie to vote against an unknown.)

The Third Ten
Katara vs Professor Minerva McGonagall (Unabashed fan.)
Chihiro vs Samus Aran (Samus is no magical girl; I like Chihiro enough that I'm willing to forgive her triumph over Homura.)
Clarice Starling vs Cersei Lannister
Rin Tezuka vs Ronica Vestrit (People are like jellyfish.)
Jaheira vs Kallen Kozuki

The Fourth Ten

NOT FAIR NOT FAIR NOT FAIR NOT FAIR. :smallfurious: *cries*

The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
Hit Girl vs Mulan
River Tam vs Agatha Heterodyne (I. HATE. YOU.)
M vs Antimony Carver
Labrys vs Kerrigan

The Fifth Ten

*cries massive tears*

Arya Stark vs C. J. Cregg
Tali'Zorah vs Holly Short
Radical Edward vs Captain Marvel (RUGWUWJGHGJWGJWGJG.)
Ellen Ripley vs Kaylee Frye (...you can't make me choose.)
Echo vs Death of the Endless (At least this one was easy. I like Echo, but...)

Finn Solomon
2013-08-25, 11:10 AM
From now on I'm gonna be joining the voting. It's about time I used the ancient right that heroic man and women have fought and died for in this crucial contest. Analysis in spoilers.

FIRST TEN

Amelia Pond (Doctor Who) vs Princess Azula (Avatar)

Now I know Azula is a great character. The mark of her greatness is that I know how good she is by osmosis despite never really getting into Avatar. If she was battling someone I didn't know, I'd pick Azula. But she's up against Amy Pond, who despite being eye-candy, cheesecake, and all the other Doctor's Companion criticism...she still ended up being a darn watchable character and made me shed a little tear when she and Rory got back together in the Planet of the Daleks. Come along, Pond.

Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)

I'm a big fan of Michelle Yeoh, whom I think is one of the best Asian actresses around today.

Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!) vs Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail)

This is part of the reason why I love hosting these tournaments, I always end up being introduced to interesting new series. I knew nothing about Tomoko before this, now I think it's one of the more hilarious series I've ever seen.

Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars)

Leia isn't a bad character, but she's up against possibly the Apex Predator of this tournament.

SECOND TEN

Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5) vs Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf)

Another new series I've never heard of before and was surprised when she took down The friggin' Boss from MGS. But what I read of her, I like.

Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad)

Huge Claudia Black fan. I love Waller's character a lot, and the fact she's non-traditionally attractive which is a definite rarity in comics, but I'm still going with Claudia Black. It's the voice.

Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)

If LOTR is the first fantasy series ever written, it stands to reason that Eowyn is any fantasy girl's momma.

Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)

Ghibli over Square Enix all day erryday.

THIRD TEN

Katara (Avatar) vs Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter)

Katara's nice but not on Azula's level, and I want to see a McGonagall/Weatherwax matchup.

Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Samus Aran (Metroid)

Hey I nominated her. And I never played Metroid.

Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings)

Rin's arc in Katawa Shoujo is brilliant writing laden with heavy symbolism and non-conventional communication and art history and love and all sorts of good stuff, and she's the last Yamaku girl left to represent.

FOURTH TEN


Hit Girl (Kickass) vs Mulan (Disney)

Strong dislike for Mark Millar's work, he goes over the top ALL the time and it gets tiring and boring after a while.

River Tam (Firefly) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)

As a card carrying member of the Summer Glau Fan Club, it is my sworn duty to cast my vote for her.

M (James Bond) vs Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court)

M is very cool, especially in Skyfall, and Gunnerkrigg Court started out okay but I never got around to finishing it, which for me is rare.

FIFTH TEN

Arya Stark (Game of Thrones) vs C. J. Cregg (The West Wing)

You won't find a bigger Song of Ice and Fire fan than me, but Arya isn't my favourite character from that series (hello, Asha Greyjoy) and I love love LOVE the West Wing. Plus CJ is just about the only 'normal' human left in this tournament besides Clarice Starling, and that's a rarity in these kind of tournaments.

Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)

Never read a Fowl book that I liked, and Tali is too cute for words.

Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop) vs Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics)

Again, thanks to whoever nominated Edward Wong Hau Pepelu Tivrusky the Fourth, because not only is she my new favourite character of any medium, you got me into Cowboy Bebop.

Ellen Ripley (Alien) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)

I like Sigourney Weaver but come on. Sweetest girl in the Verse.

Echo (Dollhouse) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)

I nominated her, and Death is that rare fictional character that has had a profound impact on my real world life.

Terraoblivion
2013-08-25, 11:25 AM
Plus CJ is just about the only 'normal' human left in this tournament besides Clarice Starling, and that's a rarity in these kind of tournaments.

Rin is normal. Very talented, quite eccentric and has no arms, but all of that is within the range of possibility for plain old humans on modern Earth.

Finn Solomon
2013-08-25, 11:29 AM
Rin is normal. Very talented, quite eccentric and has no arms, but all of that is within the range of possibility for plain old humans on modern Earth.

Rin has special art powers. And she has mysterious vanishing parents. Enquiring minds want to know more.

Dienekes
2013-08-25, 11:38 AM
Ellen Ripley (Alien) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)

I like Sigourney Weaver but come on. Sweetest girl in the Verse.

So I have to ask this, because it's been bothering me for some time. How is Kaylee the sweetest girl in the Verse? I mean she's friendly, sure. But every other bit of dialogue between her and Simon involves Simon saying something unintentionally wrong and her taking it way out of proportion and then acting like a jerk to him.

She was the most annoying character in the show for me, but everywhere I go people keep going on about how sweet and adorable she was. She wasn't, she acted like a petulant child.

paddyfool
2013-08-25, 11:45 AM
[SPOILER]Susan Ivanova vs Holo the Wise Wolf
Holo's good. Don't know the other.

This minute might give you an inkling of what she's about. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaSmassvv4w)

(Although there was a lot of character development that went on before... watch Babylon 5 watch Babylon 5 watch Babylon 5).

Terraoblivion
2013-08-25, 11:50 AM
This minute might give you an inkling of what she's about. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaSmassvv4w)

(Although there was a lot of character development that went on before... watch Babylon 5 watch Babylon 5 watch Babylon 5).

So she's a Russian with distinctly non-Eastern European ancestry who cannot pronounce her own last name?

paddyfool
2013-08-25, 12:05 PM
So she's a Russian with distinctly non-Eastern European ancestry who cannot pronounce her own last name?

OK, that may partly be just because it's a US series, but on the other hand it's set in the year 2262. How pure do you expect ethnic bloodlines to stay for the next 250 years?

Haleyintraining
2013-08-25, 12:09 PM
So I have to ask this, because it's been bothering me for some time. How is Kaylee the sweetest girl in the Verse? I mean she's friendly, sure. But every other bit of dialogue between her and Simon involves Simon saying something unintentionally wrong and her taking it way out of proportion and then acting like a jerk to him.

She was the most annoying character in the show for me, but everywhere I go people keep going on about how sweet and adorable she was. She wasn't, she acted like a petulant child.

I obviously can't speak for what Finn sees in her, but I think this little blurb (http://such-heights.dreamwidth.org/314671.html) accurately summarizes why I think she's pretty great.

bguy
2013-08-25, 12:09 PM
Tolkein is writing in a time when it is not considered normal to view women as equals (especially as warriors).

True, but it's not like that problem had gotten much better by the time Laurana was first written. It was still very rare at that time to see women portrayed as warriors. (And it was almost unheard of then to show women commanding armies like Laurana did.)


This was a case of Laurana Kanan being Eowyn + 5 in terms of her character deeds and abilities, which aren't the part of Eowyn's character I liked her for, without the trials Eowyn had or the thematic imagery of her character resonating with a morality that I embrace.

I have to disagree on Laurana not facing trials. She faced the same trials that Eowyn did (sexism, heartbreak, inexperience, fighting in seemingly hopeless battles, the death of loved ones, and having to struggle between her own desires and the good of others), but she also had to face trials that Eowyn never did (racism, infidelity, ostracism, treachery, captivity, her people being conquered, and redemptive sacrifice.


Also I find a normal and largely inexperience newbie standing their ground against an eldritch terror with no magical aid very impressive.

Well admittedly the first time an inexperienced Laurana had to go up against a vastly more powerful foe (the arch-mage Feal-Thas), she didn't openly challenge him but instead tried to sneak up on him from behind while he was polymorphed into a wolf, but I think that's actually a point for Laurana. She isn't the strongest or the most technically skilled warrior, but she is still a very capable combatant because she fights with her brain and is willing to use ambushes, sneak attacks, and tricks to give her the advantage against otherwise more powerful foes. And when the world is on the line that's the kind of hero you want. The one who is resourceful enough to get the job done.


I find choosing to go to war because the world needs all the help it can get better than following a boy to war for love. I know Eowyn liked Aaragon, and she later found Faramir, but her motive for going to war wasn't either man, it was to save the world.

Did Eowyn go to war though to save the world or was it more because she was seeking personal glory (and death)? I don't see much difference between going to war for glory/death and going to war for love. In both cases the person is fighting for their own heart's desires rather than out of altruism. And regardless of why Laurana initially went off to the war, she ended up fighting for the good of the world rather than for Tanis' love. As witnessed by the fact that she kept fighting, even when she believed that Tanis had rejected her and gone over to the enemy and would later sacrifice her own life for her people.


Largely though Eowyn won my vote because Tolkien > Dragonlance for me.

Fair enough though regardless of the merits of the two works as a whole I still think Laurana is the more interesting and enjoyable character.

Man on Fire
2013-08-25, 12:48 PM
Aeryn Sun vs Amanda Waller
Interesting how I still don't know half the people.

Even after I wrote that huge post about Amanda Waller :smallconfused:


The Lady vs Jadzia Dax
?

Dude, after how much I talked about Lady, c'mon. Do I have to bring Spoilers in the open or something?

Man on Fire
2013-08-25, 01:18 PM
Rin is normal. Very talented, quite eccentric and has no arms, but all of that is within the range of possibility for plain old humans on modern Earth.

Amanda Waller is quite normal human too. Normal human who has enough strength of character to stand up to gods and Batman, but still

Kato
2013-08-25, 02:25 PM
So I have to ask this, because it's been bothering me for some time. How is Kaylee the sweetest girl in the Verse? I mean she's friendly, sure. But every other bit of dialogue between her and Simon involves Simon saying something unintentionally wrong and her taking it way out of proportion and then acting like a jerk to him.

Really? I can recall like one instance when she acted somewhat like that... (I think that was in Jaynestown(?)) Otherwise... I'll have to agree. She's just a cutie.


Dude, after how much I talked about Lady, c'mon. Do I have to bring Spoilers in the open or something?

Well, not everyone is willing to read long essays about characters to vote on... and even then, a rather clearly biased opinion is not much to judge a character on.
Really, in nine out of ten cases you are either familiar with the character or you don't care about her, no matter how much someone/everyone will praise her.

Zaydos
2013-08-25, 02:46 PM
Hope I can vote even if I missed round 1.

Votes:
1.1 Amelia Pond vs Azula
1.2 Willow Rosenburg vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga
1.3 Pass
1.4 Tomoko Kuroki vs Erza Scarlet
1.5 Granny Weatherwax (discworld) vs Princess Leia Organa (star Wars)

2.1 Pass
2.2 Pass
2.3 Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs Amanda Waller (DC)
2.4 Laurana Kanan (dragonlance) vs Eowyn (LoTR)
2.5 Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle) vs Celes Chere (FFVI)

3.1 Katara (A:tLA) vs Professor Minerva McGonagall (HP)
3.2 Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Samus Aran (Metroid)
3.3 Clarice Starling (Silence of the lambs) vs Cersei Lannister (GoT)
3.4 Pass - Don't know enough to vote fairly
3.5 Jaheira (Baldur's Gate) vs Kallen Kozuki (Code Gaes)

4.1 Pass
4.2 Hit Girl (KA) vs Mulan (Mulan)
4.3 River Tam (Firefly) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
4.4 Pass
4.5 Pass

5.1 Arya Stark (GoT)vs C. J. Cregg (West Wing)
5.2 Pass
5.3 Pass
5.4 Ellen Ripley (Alien) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
5.5 Pass

Dienekes
2013-08-25, 02:47 PM
Really? I can recall like one instance when she acted somewhat like that... (I think that was in Jaynestown(?)) Otherwise... I'll have to agree. She's just a cutie.

Off the top of my head, Jaynestown, The Message, and Safe.

Forum Explorer
2013-08-25, 02:48 PM
5.2 was a case of knowing both characters just a little (haven't had a chance to play Mass Effect yet and only having a passing awareness of Artimis Fowl) but of the little I knew Holly sounded more interesting. I probably should go back and remove my vote entirely from 5.2 because I don't really know either of them well enough to love or hate them. Off hand I'm more interested in Holly than Tali (though thats more about the medium than it is about character).

:smalltongue:

4.5 is the only other one where I don't know both characters terribly well (but in that case I genuinely want to get into Persona and haven't had the time yet while I was never felt story was a strong part of Starcraft).

Holly is pretty interesting but she's just not as well written as Tali is. She has one of the most compelling stories in Mass Effect which stretches across all three games.

Eldan
2013-08-25, 03:14 PM
This minute might give you an inkling of what she's about. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaSmassvv4w)

(Although there was a lot of character development that went on before... watch Babylon 5 watch Babylon 5 watch Babylon 5).

I started watching Babylon 5 once, but it really didn't seem all that special or interesting.

Edit: okay, I read the post about Amanda Waller. That doesn't count as knowing. I've never read an American superhero comic and just a post and some wiki articles don't count as knowing a character.

SuperPanda
2013-08-25, 03:16 PM
I'll go back at edit out the vote on 5.2, after thinking about it a bit more I realized that what happened was that I purposefully avoided reading Tali's wiki entry because I fully intending to play all three games in the not too distant future and don't want to spoil it.

As such, if I'm already interested enough in the character to avoid spoiling anything that ranks higher than the character whose wiki I read with no hesitation.

5.2 I'll edit out the vote on.

2.4 Stays. I never intended to suggest that Kanan had no conflicts to overcome (a character would be really boring with no conflicts) merely that they weren't the ones which made Eowyn stand out to me.

On the Glory +/- Death vs Chasing Love... Its a bit complicated. War is nasty, and I don't think either world even pretends that it isn't. So a character who was forged into awesome-sauce after following a boy into hell (figuratively since this is a DnD world) speaks of naivety on a whole lot of levels. On the other prime material, the war that was coming would come to Rohan eventually. As it was put in Pacific Rim, "Where would you rather die...?" Here we have a woman already more competent than most of the soldiers who'd be serving in the war, a woman who deserved more than a little glory and knew she'd never receive it following the rules. If she stayed and the army lost she'd die horribly anyway. If she stayed and the army won she'd be trapped forever in a life she didn't want. She opted to change the game.

Maybe I'll give Dragonlance another chance in the months to come, but for the time being Eowyn got my vote this round.

Kitten Champion
2013-08-25, 03:38 PM
For those who don't know who CJ Cregg is, here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRYjz86DnCM).

The episode where she starts as a Chief of Staff, here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4bGRBkUKIk).

bguy
2013-08-25, 04:50 PM
On the Glory +/- Death vs Chasing Love... Its a bit complicated. War is nasty, and I don't think either world even pretends that it isn't. So a character who was forged into awesome-sauce after following a boy into hell (figuratively since this is a DnD world) speaks of naivety on a whole lot of levels.

Well Laurana started out as a young, sheltered princess of a nation that had not been at war for her entire life and whose people did not even believe in talking about death, so of course she was naďve about war at the start of her story. But isn't it more impressive that she grew as a person during her adventures, overcame that naivety and became a great warrior and general?


On the other prime material, the war that was coming would come to Rohan eventually. As it was put in Pacific Rim, "Where would you rather die...?" Here we have a woman already more competent than most of the soldiers who'd be serving in the war, a woman who deserved more than a little glory and knew she'd never receive it following the rules. If she stayed and the army lost she'd die horribly anyway. If she stayed and the army won she'd be trapped forever in a life she didn't want. She opted to change the game.

If the war would have come to Rohan anyway than that makes Eowyn's actions rather selfish and irresponsible. She had been left in charge of the people of Rohan while their king was away. If the army had lost at Minas Tirath, it would have been up to her to lead the people of Rohan when Mordor invaded their lands. Instead she left her people without a leader, so she could go and chase her dreams of glory. That's not a noble or heroic action. And yes it was unfair that Eowyn always got tasked with being the one to stay behind, but she still accepted the command, so it was her responsibility to see it through.


Maybe I'll give Dragonlance another chance in the months to come, but for the time being Eowyn got my vote this round.

Understood, but I'm still going to argue in the hopes of maybe swaying some of the other voters. Though Eowyn's lead seems pretty insurmountable at this point :smallfrown:

Taet
2013-08-25, 04:57 PM
I like your comments but I had to cut them out of the quote. Please make the next voting post just for votes. Make a comment post but make it a different post.

The First Ten

Amelia Pond (Doctor Who) vs Princess Azula (Avatar)
Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh)
Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!) vs Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars)

The Second Ten

Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5) vs Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf)
Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Weiss Schnee (RBWY)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)

The Third Ten

Katara (Avatar) vs Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Samus Aran (Metroid)
Clarice Starling (Silence of the Lambs) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings)
Jaheira (Forgotten Realms) vs Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass)

The Fourth Ten

The Lady (Black Company) vs Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine)
Hit Girl (Kickass) vs Mulan (Disney)
River Tam (Firefly) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
M (James Bond) vs Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court)
Labrys (Persona 4) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)

The Fifth Ten

Arya Stark (Game of Thrones) vs C. J. Cregg (The West Wing)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop) vs Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics)
Ellen Ripley (Alien) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)
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Zevox
2013-08-25, 05:34 PM
Really, in nine out of ten cases you are either familiar with the character or you don't care about her, no matter how much someone/everyone will praise her.
Yeah, pretty much. I mean, it's interesting reading why someone likes these characters, but even after doing so they're still characters I have no firsthand experience with. Or in Amanda Waller's case one I only know from a cartoon show where she had a tertiary role that didn't really endear her to me. So as far as voting for them goes, yeah, I'm still not too inclined to do that.

Talieth
2013-08-27, 08:04 AM
The First Ten

Amelia Pond (Doctor Who) vs Princess Azula (Avatar)


The Second Ten

Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Weiss Schnee (RBWY)
Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)


The Third Ten

nothin'


The Fourth Ten

River Tam (Firefly) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)


The Fifth Ten

Arya Stark (Game of Thrones) vs C. J. Cregg (The West Wing)
Ellen Ripley (Alien) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)

Weimann
2013-08-27, 09:32 AM
The First Ten

Amelia Pond (Doctor Who) vs Princess Azula (Avatar)
Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh)
Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!) vs Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars)Leia against Granny god damn Weatherwax? It's not even a contest.

The Second Ten

Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5) vs Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf)
Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Weiss Schnee (RBWY)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)Toph versus Weiss was almost not an entirely forgone conclusion, but only for a minute.

The Third Ten

Katara (Avatar) vs Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Samus Aran (Metroid)
Clarice Starling (Silence of the Lambs) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings)
Jaheira (Forgotten Realms) vs Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass)Okay, here's the first really hard one. Katara vs McGonagall. That's tough. I think I'll have to pick Katara, though, on the grounds that she is shown growing a lot more than McGonagall is during their stories.

The Fourth Ten

The Lady (Black Company) vs Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine)
Hit Girl (Kickass) vs Mulan (Disney)
River Tam (Firefly) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
M (James Bond) vs Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court)
Labrys (Persona 4) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)

The Fifth Ten

Arya Stark (Game of Thrones) vs C. J. Cregg (The West Wing)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop) vs Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics)
Ellen Ripley (Alien) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)Oh man, Arya vs CJ. I think Arya's winning out, but mostly because it's been so long since I saw the West Wing that any direct comparison will favour Arya since I just remember more of what she's done. But it's close. So close.

Moak
2013-08-27, 09:37 AM
The First Ten


Amelia Pond (Doctor Who) vs Princess Azula (Avatar)
Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh)
Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!) vs Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars)

The Second Ten


Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5) vs Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf)
Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Weiss Schnee (RBWY)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)

The Third Ten

Katara (Avatar) vs Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Samus Aran (Metroid)
Clarice Starling (Silence of the Lambs) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings)
Jaheira (Forgotten Realms) vs Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass)

The Fourth Ten


The Lady (Black Company) vs Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine)
Hit Girl (Kickass) vs Mulan (Disney)
River Tam (Firefly) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
M (James Bond) vs Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court)
Labrys (Persona 4) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)

The Fifth Ten


Arya Stark (Game of Thrones) vs C. J. Cregg (The West Wing)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop) vs Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics)
Ellen Ripley (Alien) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)

snoopy13a
2013-08-27, 08:03 PM
The First Ten


Amelia Pond (Doctor Who) vs Princess Azula (Avatar)
Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh)
Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!) vs Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars)

The Second Ten



Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5) vs Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf)
Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Weiss Schnee (RBWY)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)

The Third Ten



Katara (Avatar) vs Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Samus Aran (Metroid)
Clarice Starling (Silence of the Lambs) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings)
Jaheira (Forgotten Realms) vs Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass)

The Fourth Ten


The Lady (Black Company) vs Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine)
Hit Girl (Kickass) vs Mulan (Disney)
River Tam (Firefly) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
M (James Bond) vs Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court)
Labrys (Persona 4) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)

The Fifth Ten



Arya Stark (Game of Thrones) vs C. J. Cregg (The West Wing)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop) vs Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics)
Ellen Ripley (Alien) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)

Geddoe
2013-08-27, 09:24 PM
A bit of my thoughts after each:
The First Ten

Amelia Pond (Doctor Who) vs Princess Azula (Avatar)
Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh)
Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!) vs Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail)
Balsa is like a Yu Shu Lien that is more interesting to me. Willow is definitely preferred to any Azumanga character. I don't really care for Doctor Who, and Erza's recent reaction to her power down alone is funner than anything Tomoko has ever done.

The Second Ten


Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Weiss Schnee (RBWY)
Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
Only really know two of the matches, Celes for all the nostalgia and Toph because she was one of the best characters in the first series.
The Third Ten

Katara (Avatar) vs Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Samus Aran (Metroid)
Jaheira (Forgotten Realms) vs Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass)
Katara over any Harry Potter character and Samus is a legend. Jaheira is my least favorite BG romance and I just like Kallen for some reason.

The Fourth Ten

The Lady (Black Company) vs Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine)
Hit Girl (Kickass) vs Mulan (Disney)
River Tam (Firefly) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
Labrys (Persona 4) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)

I prefer fantasy to sci-fi, so the Lady came out ahead of Dax. Mulan is awesome. If there was some way I could negative vote both River and Agatha, I would. I am familiar with both and care for neither.

The Fifth Ten

Arya Stark (Game of Thrones) vs C. J. Cregg (The West Wing)
Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop) vs Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics)


C J was one of the better characters in the West Wing and Carol won me over early in her most recent Ms Marvel run.

oblivion6
2013-08-27, 10:52 PM
@Geddoe: Out of curiousity, where did your username come from?

Geddoe
2013-08-28, 01:04 AM
Suikoden III.

oblivion6
2013-08-28, 09:40 AM
Suikoden III.

That's what I thought. Love Suikoden. And how in the hell did I not find this thread before nominations closed? I just realized that I could have voted for Miakis.

Equinox
2013-08-28, 02:49 PM
pass
pass
Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
pass
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars)

pass
pass
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)

Katara (Avatar) vs Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Samus Aran (Metroid)
Clarice Starling (Silence of the Lambs) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
pass
Jaheira (Forgotten Realms) vs Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass)



pass
Hit Girl (Kickass) vs Mulan (Disney)
River Tam (Firefly) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
M (James Bond) vs Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court)
pass


Arya Stark (Game of Thrones) vs C. J. Cregg (The West Wing)
pass
pass
Ellen Ripley (Alien) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
pass

Finn Solomon
2013-08-28, 08:59 PM
Get your votes in by tonight everybody!

Finn Solomon
2013-08-29, 11:08 AM
Voting has closed, tallying up the scores.

Finn Solomon
2013-08-30, 01:38 PM
THANKS FOR VOTING! Again, some very one sided matchups, and some heart wrenching ties that were decided by a coin toss. Here are your winners, everybody!

Amelia Pond (Doctor Who) vs Princess Azula (Avatar)
Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) vs Ayumu 'Osaka' Kasuga (Azumanga Daioh)
Yu Shu Lien (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
Tomoko Kuroki (It's Not My Fault That I'm Popular!) vs Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail)
Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Princess Leia Organa (Star Wars)

Susan Ivanova (Babylon 5) vs Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf)
Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Weiss Schnee (RBWY)
Aeryn Sun (Farscape) vs Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad)
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
Sophie Hatter (Howl's Moving Castle) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)

Katara (Avatar) vs Professor Minerva McGonagall (Harry Potter)
Chihiro (Spirited Away) vs Samus Aran (Metroid)
Clarice Starling (Silence of the Lambs) vs Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Ronica Vestrit (Realm of the Elderlings)
Jaheira (Forgotten Realms) vs Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass)

The Lady (Black Company) vs Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine)
Hit Girl (Kickass) vs Mulan (Disney)
River Tam (Firefly) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
M (James Bond) vs Antimony Carver (Gunnerkrigg Court)
Labrys (Persona 4) vs Kerrigan (Starcraft)

Arya Stark (Game of Thrones) vs C. J. Cregg (The West Wing)
Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) vs Holly Short (Artemis Fowl)
Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop) vs Captain Marvel (Marvel Comics)
Ellen Ripley (Alien) vs Kaylee Frye (Firefly)
Echo (Dollhouse) vs Death of the Endless (Sandman)

An epic struggle for the ages. Both Firefly girls knocked out, how could you do this to me Playground?? Princess Azula going out by a hair! Aeryn Sun losing to the Wall! Chihiro beating Samus Aran, and Granny Weatherwax once again utterly dominating her fight!

Here are your survivors:

Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
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Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080308042129/buffy/images/6/6d/WillowRosenberg.jpg

Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
http://www.kal01.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/seirei-no-moribito-01.jpg

Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail)
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120318235402/powerlisting/images/8/8c/Erza-scarlet-erza-scarlet.jpg

Granny Weatherwax (Discworld)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MEeHFH6b7JY/THwVZcb215I/AAAAAAAAAg8/NeXBomnaYn4/s1600/Granny_Weatherwax.jpg

Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf)
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120213085411/spiceandwolf/images/5/51/Holo_Infobox.jpg

Toph Bei Fong (Avatar)
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/6699/161667-toph_bei_fong_super.jpg

Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad)
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111030171651/youngjustice/images/b/b4/Amanda_Waller.png

Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
http://www3.images.coolspotters.com/photos/588534/eowyn-gallery.jpg

Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/luffikus/render9a.jpg

Katara (Avatar)
http://www.musogato.com/avatar/official/katara10.jpg

Chihiro (Spirited Away)
http://www.cafebunka.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/araipic1.jpg

Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones)
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30600000/Cersei-Lannister-cersei-lannister-30631641-636-698.jpg

Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo)
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Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass)
http://www.pureanimegallery.com/d/5429-1/kallen-kozuk-military-salut.jpg

Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine)
http://thumbs2.modthesims.info/img/1/3/7/7/8/2/8/MTS_MistyBlue-1101014-jadzia_dax-002.jpg

Mulan (Disney)
http://www.cartoondollemporium.com/disney/mulan8.jpg

Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0x39s3UZA1qawq3lo1_400.png

M (James Bond)
http://www.empireonline.com/images/uploaded/skyfall-james-bond-m.jpg

Sarah Kerrigan (Starcraft)
http://www.2dayblog.com/images/2010/august/550x-sarah-kerrigan-1.jpg

Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
http://cdn.thegloss.com/files/2012/08/Arya-Stark-arya-stark-31335129-700-466-640x426.png

Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100106125312/masseffect/images/2/2f/Talicharactershotme2.jpg

Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090228023735/cowboybebop/images/1/14/Edhappy.png

Ellen Ripley (Alien)
http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/100greatestcharacters/photos/9.jpg

Death of the Endless (Sandman)
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/4/40498/1291971-ac894.jpg

LET THE ROUND THREE VOTING...BEGIN!


1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)

For this TRIPLE THREAT MATCH, vote for ONE character that you like best to make it out alive. Just one character!

12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

Tengu_temp
2013-08-30, 01:48 PM
Chihiro won with Samus? Kerrigan won with Labrys? Wow, bad taste galore.

My votes:

1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

Also, is the thread too old for renaming at this point?

Zaydos
2013-08-30, 01:52 PM
Fairly easy, either clear choices or ones I don't particularly care about. Hardest was Erza v Celes and I like Erza's sword-maiden with an attitude better than Celes's (plus the angst at the World of Ruin thing just managed to annoy me).

1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

tensai_oni
2013-08-30, 01:52 PM
Chihiro won with Samus? Kerrigan won with Labrys? Wow, bad taste galore.


Yeah, pretty much that.

Here's how I vote:


1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

Why you do this. I can't vote on #3! #7 I did only with a broken heart.

Hiro Protagonest
2013-08-30, 01:53 PM
Chihiro won with Samus? Kerrigan won with Labrys? Wow, bad taste galore.

Samus has less character than Wander, who I complained about in the other thread. Unless you reeeally want to count M.O.M.

Tengu_temp
2013-08-30, 01:54 PM
Samus has less character than Wander, who I complained about in the other thread. Unless you reeeally want to count M.O.M.

And Chihiro is Generic Miyazaki Lead #8. Samus is at least an icon.

Also, here's my prediction about the whole competition:
Tali will win.

Silva Stormrage
2013-08-30, 02:01 PM
Regular Votes

1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)

Triple Threat Match
12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

RCgothic
2013-08-30, 02:11 PM
1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

Man on Fire
2013-08-30, 02:14 PM
1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)

12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)[/QUOTE]

Damn, dissapinted Lady didn't make it.
And in this round it's Kallen vs Katara and Waller vs Eowyn. And considering who they beat so far, I'm fairly optimistic.

Arkhosia
2013-08-30, 02:36 PM
1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
Pass
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
Final fantasy!
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
She looks awesome.
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
Who's holo?
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
It is BtVS, after all.
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
I have a soft spot for spellcasters.
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
Pass.
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)
Best. Show. Ever.
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones) Go Stark!
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
Come on! Amelia couldn't hold her own in a fight without help!
12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)
Sorry Tali, but my love of Toph comes before my love of you.

I wanted Azula to make it...

bguy
2013-08-30, 02:37 PM
Laurana Kanan (Dragonlance) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)

<Kent Brockman voice> I've said it before, and I'll say it again: democracy simply doesn't work.


8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)

12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

Kitten Champion
2013-08-30, 02:47 PM
Aw, goddamn it, I was really hoping for CJ.


1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

Equinox
2013-08-30, 02:55 PM
1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. pass
4. pass
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. pass
7. pass
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. pass
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
12. pass

Eldan
2013-08-30, 03:37 PM
And Chihiro is Generic Miyazaki Lead #8. Samus is at least an icon.

This is not about importance of the medium or icon status. It's about character quality. Samus has none.



1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
Played Starcraft extensively, but never cared about teh characters much.

2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Stopped watching new Bond a while ago.

3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
?

4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
Nooooo. Why. Damn that was hard.

5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
I like Ripley. I don't like her that much.

6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
Only know Willow. Also like Willow.

7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
... Damn. No. Eff that. You can't do that to me.

8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
Hrm. Abstain. I know Eowyn, but from what I've seen here, Waller seems far more interesting.

9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)
Still don't like Avatar.

10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
Also not a Star Trek Fan.

11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
I like Amy, but she's been in some utter crap. Cersei is glorious in the show.

12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)
Yeah, another non-contest.

Kato
2013-08-30, 03:51 PM
1. pass
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop) (not much of a Bond fan, tbh)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy) (Urgh... While I like Fairy Tail FF VI is clearly a much better game than FT is a show... and while Erza has more character I guess than Ceres... I'll go with her, still.)
4. pass
5. pass because I've seen too little of Holo
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) (I guess I wish I knew Rin better but... it's Willow)
7. pass (I'll pass on that even though I'm sure I'd like Granny better even if I knew Balsa but... It's Granny, I'm sure the people who like both will still vote for her :smalltongue:)
8. pass (I like Eowyn but I guess Amanda is good, too, from what I heard... We'll see how the others decide.)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar) (Noooo, you... you... jerk. Okay, it's Katara)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones) (Maybe it's been too long since I saw DS9 but... Arya)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who) (Hm... Karen Gillan....)
12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) (Easy victory)


edit: I forgot to complain about Samus losing :smallmad: And Azula, I guess... But Samus feels like much more of a shame.

Also, kind of @Tengu:

It probably is because I'm one of the three people on earth who never got into ME but... why?
Okay, I am somewhat confused Toph is struggling so bad after the first few votes (Mulan, people, really?) but I'd say this is pretty strong competition, without knowing anything about Tali, that is.


Also, Eldan, do yourself a favor and play Final Fantasy VI if you don't know who Celes is. :smallwink:

Olinser
2013-08-30, 04:06 PM
1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)


Nitpicky note - Kerrigan is a different person from Sarah Kerrigan.

I nominated Kerrigan as the Queen of Blades.

Dienekes
2013-08-30, 05:18 PM
1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)

Kerrigan was awesome, confident, and manipulative in Starcraft. She was utterly wasted in Starcraft 2. Also don't know Chihiro, so no vote.

2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)

Still find Edward annoying.

3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)

Don't know either.

4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)

Don't know Agatha, you people better vote in Death though.

5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)

Don't know Holo.

6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)

Don't know Rin.

7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)

Don't know Balsa

8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)

The Wall is a more complex and interesting character. Eowyn is fun, but the Wall is awesome.

9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)

Don't know Kallen

10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

My nomination must win, of course.

11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)

Hmm, Cersei is probably the better character. More complex, fun in an insane and brain dead kind of way. But I just like the Ponds. Sorry Cersei.

12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

Melon Lord takes the crown.

Sanguine
2013-08-30, 05:36 PM
1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away) - (I'll pass. I don't know Kerrigan, and honestly Chihiro is basically a non-character.)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop) - (I'm gonna pass again. Just don't know either character well enough to vote.)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy) - (Sorry Celes, you might be a great character, but I don't know you, and I've got a soft spot for Erza.)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) - (I don't really know either character well, but what little experience I have with Death is enough to sell me. Besides we're talking about Neil Gaiman!)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien) - (Love Holo, haven't actually seen Alien.)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) - (This, this was a tough one. Damn you rng, why must you break my heart! But ultimately, while I love Willow, I love Rin more.)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit) - (Gotta go with Granny, I mean come on.)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings) - (Pass.)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar) - (Kallen never really did it for me, where as I really like Katara.)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones) - (Mostly this is just me voting for the character I know. I really should watch Deep Space Nine.)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who) - (I thought that this would be a no-brainer. But once I though about it, I actually kind of like show Cersei, she's very well acted. But ultimately I've still got to go with Amelia Pond.)
12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect) - (As if #6 wasn't bad enough, now this. Really neither of them stood a chance against Toph. But oh how it hurts to vote against the other two.)

Eldan
2013-08-30, 06:10 PM
Also, Eldan, do yourself a favor and play Final Fantasy VI if you don't know who Celes is.

I've tried the odd JRPG here and there, even a few parts of Final Fantasy. They all bored me to death. Not a genre I like much.

paddyfool
2013-08-30, 06:44 PM
Still plenty of characters I don't know. Ah well, chalk me down as a cultural ignoramus (especially on the anime/manga side).


1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)

For this TRIPLE THREAT MATCH, vote for ONE character that you like best to make it out alive. Just one character!

12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

Arkhosia
2013-08-30, 07:19 PM
... I think it was sorta obvious who I would vote for in triple threat, in retrospect.

Haleyintraining
2013-08-30, 08:38 PM
Bluh, my favourites have been mostly knocked out. I feel that there is a strong manga/animation appreciation in this contest.

1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

SaintRidley
2013-08-30, 09:01 PM
Well, at this point I only actually know six of the characters, so I'm just voting for them.

LET THE ROUND THREE VOTING...BEGIN!


1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

For this TRIPLE THREAT MATCH, vote for ONE character that you like best to make it out alive. Just one character!

12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

snoopy13a
2013-08-30, 09:03 PM
Bluh, my favourites have been mostly knocked out. I feel that there is a strong manga/animation appreciation in this contest.

Yeah, I've gotten that feeling too.



6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)

Zevox
2013-08-30, 09:53 PM
Damn it. Labrys losing I saw coming - I don't understand Kerrigan's popularity, but it combined with P4A's niche status basically guaranteed that outcome - but Azula losing as well is pretty awful. At least Katara and Toph are still around, or I don't think I'd have much reason left to keep voting.

8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)

12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

And that's the extent of my votes this round. Kinda sucks that Tali is in the same match as Toph, but I have no difficulty picking between the two. Tali's not even the best female character in her own series, and the only character in her series that I might vote for over the Avatar girls is male.

tensai_oni
2013-08-30, 10:51 PM
I feel that there is a strong manga/animation appreciation in this contest.

Out of 25 participants in round 3, only 9 come from manga or animation. If by the latter you meant anime rather than cartoons in general then that's even less, only 6 characters.

Sanguine
2013-08-30, 10:54 PM
Out of 25 participants in round 3, only 9 come from manga or animation.

Which is coincidentally also the number of redheads.

Finn Solomon
2013-08-31, 12:00 AM
Heroes Want Redheads.

Forum Explorer
2013-08-31, 01:07 AM
LET THE ROUND THREE VOTING...BEGIN!


1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)

For this TRIPLE THREAT MATCH, vote for ONE character that you like best to make it out alive. Just one character!

12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

Zaydos
2013-08-31, 01:09 AM
Heroes Want Redheads.

But I want a cute blonde :smalltongue: Are you saying I look like a villain to you? :smalltongue:

Kato
2013-08-31, 02:34 AM
Bluh, my favourites have been mostly knocked out. I feel that there is a strong manga/animation appreciation in this contest.

Well... maybe because there are just as many strong female characters on animation/manga as in other media. Maybe the number is a bit above average but... well, that's how it is. (Must not make satiric joke that will lead to political debate...)


Which is coincidentally also the number of redheads.
You know, THAT actually surprises me. But I guess it's just the Japanese fetish for unnatural hair colors. (And Willow/Hannigan also quite often changed her dye... okay, more often now than back then)


But I want a cute blonde :smalltongue: Are you saying I look like a villain to you? :smalltongue:
Lokking at your Avatar... yeah, seems villain-y to me :smalltongue:

Terraoblivion
2013-08-31, 03:04 AM
Come Rin and Holo. You can do it. So what if you're from an obscure media like VNs and the lead of a somewhat niche series of light novels/anime. You can beat the amazingly iconic character and the most popular character from the hit tv show!

1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)
12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

Also, I do think Tengu's guess for who will win is pretty likely. *watches as the Quarian is defeated this round*

RCgothic
2013-08-31, 04:47 AM
By my count the triple threat match is currently standing at:

Mulan: 6
Toph: 6
Tali: 7

Come on Tali, you can do it! :smallsmile:

paddyfool
2013-08-31, 04:57 AM
Also, here's my prediction about the whole competition:
Tali will win.

Doubt it. She may well get through the three-way, but other characters from gaming media have mostly done poorly and been voted out already. On voting trends, I'd say:

Esmerelda Weatherwax has to be the current bookie's favourite, but popular support is a fickle thing.

Terraoblivion
2013-08-31, 05:07 AM
On the other hand, Mass Effect is a game that more or less everyone has played and if you look at the actual trends, popularity of the work has been the deciding factor. Rin is the biggest odd one out when it comes to that, but she's mostly gone up against people from sources about at least as obscure as her own so far. Other than her, the only people from anything I'd consider even a bit niche as far as nerds are concerned are Holo, Death and Amanda Waller. Not just that the last two might well be because I'm coming from a non-American background, where American comic books are virtually not read even by nerds. Other than that, it's all massive, extremely popular franchises.

paddyfool
2013-08-31, 05:53 AM
Perhaps I'm a bit biased as someone who's never played Mass Effect, but 7 out of 20 votes cast in a 3-way tie against two different animated characters (although granted, the Disney fanbase is generally distinct from the Anime one)... well, it could be a stronger showing.

tensai_oni
2013-08-31, 08:48 AM
1. Avatar is not an anime
2. Toph is very popular and in fact won the previous tournament (Granny Weatherwax was the other finalist)
3. I'm surprised Mulan got so many votes - but not in a bad way. She's one of the better if not the best Disney Princess, mostly due to how proactive she is

Dienekes
2013-08-31, 09:27 AM
It also helps that she's not a princess.

Eldan
2013-08-31, 09:42 AM
Mulan is the only Disney protagonist I know and can think of that's even remotely likeable. At least for adult me. Child me loved the movies.

CarpeGuitarrem
2013-08-31, 03:25 PM
1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy) (Abstaining due to lack of knowledge of either.)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius) (UGH. WHY.)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings) (If it were someone else, I might've voted for Waller, because she seems pretty boss.)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar) (NYARGH. Giving the nod to Kallen, because I thought she was better put-together.)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)

And for the triple threat...
TOPH BEI FONG!! There was no other answer.

CarpeGuitarrem
2013-08-31, 03:28 PM
Bluh, my favourites have been mostly knocked out. I feel that there is a strong manga/animation appreciation in this contest.
Well, apart from the bit where the Madoka characters went down in flames... :smallfrown:

Terraoblivion
2013-08-31, 03:55 PM
Well, apart from the bit where the Madoka characters went down in flames... :smallfrown:

Yeah. Honestly, if this thread was dominated by anime and manga fans Homura would still be around. Probably Mami too. Madoka is about as big and popular as you get in anime and with a much smaller number of people who absolutely hate it than most long-running shounen shows.

Zevox
2013-08-31, 06:43 PM
By my count the triple threat match is currently standing at:

Mulan: 6
Toph: 6
Tali: 7

Come on Tali, you can do it! :smallsmile:
I'm surprised it's that close honestly. Just looking over everyone's votes but not specifically tallying them, I was thinking Tali had a fairly stable lead. Glad to see that's not the case, gives me hope Toph will pull through after all, especially since our most recent voter brought her up to a tie with Tali. :smallsmile:

SuperPanda
2013-08-31, 07:24 PM
Azula obviously had her crazy moment earlier than I thought this time around.


1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
Pass. I was never impressed with Kerrigan within her game but her being a Blizzard character I'm sure there is much more than I saw to her and Chihiro is fun, but hardly the best Miyazaki heroine. If it was Sophie from Howl's, she'd win this in a heart-beat. That girl has moxie. Chihiro basically gets by on the power of cute-ness which is fun to watch but I'm not sure enough to win this.

2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Up until Skyfall I'd not have done this, but she had a range of subtlty that I found amazingly engaging. It helps enormously that Dame Judy Dentch is the actress giving her enormous pressences. I predict Ed to win this and I'm happy with that, but I found the power and poise of Dentch's performance far more captivating. Still loved Ed.

3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
This is a case of knowing Celes far better than Erza, though Fairy Tale is now on my to-do list for sure.

4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
Again I haven't had the pleasure of enough exposure to Sandman. Agatha is very fun if a bit unrealistically porportioned.

5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)

6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)

7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)

Balsa, you've done well so far, take solace that Granny rarely kills her opponents. Its no good beating someone unless they know they've been beat and go on knowing it.

8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)

For al the same reasons I voted Eowyn in the first time. Waller stands out by not fitting in. I've waxed poetic on Eowyn before, and condolences to the fan of Kallan. I feel in some way I should stick with Eowyn through in honor of Kallan's fall, but Waller I think wins this by a hair.

9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)

10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)

Jadzia was fantastic up until her very disapointing death. Show Arya though takes it by a landslide here. The scene in Season 2 where she's made to be a cup bearer and has to play politics while thinking about using a knife, that alone was genius. Show Arya is one of my favorite things still in the show (and one of the only characters I'm not expecting to die within 3 episodes of the show starting up again... >.>)

11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)

I wouldn't have voted Pond through last time, Azula just had more interesting layers to her for me. Her psychopathic paranoia made wonderful sense to me considering she started out as pschopathic megalomaniac and then lost control. She just expected everyone else to act as she would, and exploit a show of weakness.

Cersei is certainly the crazier of the pair but "The girl who waited" puts Pond over the top. I'm choosing to ignore the non-sense of her relation to River and of her making a sonic screwdriver because those are both beyond silly to me. Pond's character suffered from horrible decay in Moffat's hands but there are a few wonderful moments like the episode above which cement how awesome she is enough for me to. That plus the thing I want to see mostly with Cersei's character is her getting what's comming to her And this being Cersei, just her watching Joffery bite it as a result of something she did would be enough, failing that to die by Joffery's hand, failing that get spurned by the reformed Jamie for acting too spiteful.

For this TRIPLE THREAT MATCH, vote for ONE character that you like best to make it out alive. Just one character!

Spoiler
12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)
Real tough (pun intended) match-up. Three great characters. Tali I've admitted to not knowing very well but everything I've heard sounds fantastic. Mulan is very well done by Disney, proactive, honorable, powerful, intelligent. Toph though is routinely hilarious while also being deeply written. She's powerful and aware of it, and overconfident to the point that it becomes clear she's using her bravado to hide her softer sides - a very Earthbender approach to feeling shy. I want to vote for all three...

Ifni
2013-09-01, 03:31 AM
Round Three voting:

Not familiar with many of these characters, but on the ones I do know:

2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)

Triple threat:
12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

Geddoe
2013-09-01, 05:42 PM
1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

Zevox
2013-09-02, 01:34 AM
Hm. So, since the three-way match continues to be close, I'm curious what happens in the event of a tie. Random winner? Runoff vote between the two that tie (assuming only two do)? Something else?

Moak
2013-09-02, 02:38 AM
Voti Round 3:


1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)

TRIPLE THREAT MATCH

12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)[/QUOTE]

Nadevoc
2013-09-02, 03:48 AM
In the cases that I wasn't familiar enough to make a choice, or just didn't really care either way, I just left the whole line in italics


1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
2. M (James Bond) vs Radical Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
3. Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail) vs Celes Chere (Final Fantasy)
4. Death of the Endless (Sandman) vs Agatha Heterodyne (Girl Genius)
5. Holo the Wise Wolf (Spice and Wolf) vs Ellen Ripley (Alien)
6. Rin Tezuka (Katawa Shoujo) vs Willow Rosenberg (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
7. Granny Weatherwax (Discworld) vs Balsa (Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)
10. Jadzia Dax (Star Trek Deep Space Nine) vs Arya Stark (Game of Thrones)
11. Cersei Lannister (Game of Thrones) vs Amelia Pond (Doctor Who)

For this TRIPLE THREAT MATCH, vote for ONE character that you like best to make it out alive. Just one character!

12. Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs Tali'Zorah (Mass Effect)

D_Man_7733
2013-09-02, 04:57 AM
Voting! (only voted the ones I know about):
1. Kerrigan (Starcraft) vs Chihiro (Spirited Away)
8. Amanda Waller (DCAU, Suicide Squad) vs Eowyn (The Lord of the Rings)
9. Kallen Kozuki (Code Geass) vs Katara (Avatar)

And for the triple threat:

Mulan (Disney) vs Toph Bei Fong (Avatar) vs TALI'ZORAH VAS NORMANDY! (Mass Effect)

RCgothic
2013-09-02, 06:53 AM
By my count the triple threat is now stood at:

Mulan: 8
Toph: 9
Tali: 9

It couldn't be more close!

paddyfool
2013-09-02, 10:59 AM
Edited Out For Utter Idiocy.