Has Elan ever killed anything?

[Learuis]

...that is, has Elan ever dealt the killing blow to anything in the history of the comic? I'm sure there has to be evidence of it somewhere, but I can't think of anything off hand where Elan killed someone, even a 'monster'.

Anyone confirm/deny?

[Purgatorius]

At least some bugs:
http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0684.html

[Gift Jeraff]

One of Kubota's samurai. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0592.html)

[ti'esar]

Also the odd hobgoblin (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0433.html) and one of Kubota's samurai (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0592.html).

On that note, he probably would have killed Kubota if he hadn't surrendered.

Ninja'd.

[Roland Itiative]

He also killed quite a lot of brain cells, specially Roy's and V's.

[Goosefeather]

A sea troll (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0506.html).

[Sadsharks]

He killed that one cactus, apparently.

[martianmister]

Every living thing in Dorukan's Dungeon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0118.html)

[Sky_Schemer]

Every living thing in Dorukan's Dungeon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0118.html)

For the win.

[Goosefeather]

Does he get XP for their buzz? (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0710.html)

(the title of that strip)

[Lord Vukodlak]

Also his bardic music helping his friends kill people could make him an accessory to many of Roy's, Belkar's and Haley's kills.

[FlawedParadigm]

Lord Vul: What, no "he is an ex-Nale" Monty Pythonism?

[Tock Zipporah]

Every living thing in Dorukan's Dungeon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0118.html)

I wonder if any more of Celia's coworkers (if any were around that hadn't been killed by the Linear Guild) were killed in that explosion...

[The Pilgrim]

I wonder if any more of Celia's coworkers (if any were around that hadn't been killed by the Linear Guild) were killed in that explosion...

I suppose as many as contractor guys killed in the destruction of the Second Death Star. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQdDRrcAOjA)

[Lord Vukodlak]

Lord Vul: What, no "he is an ex-Nale" Monty Pythonism?

Ooooh I'll have to add that.

[Learuis]

Every living thing in Dorukan's Dungeon. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0118.html)

Bazinga! Hahaha.

Seems like he has killed a few things over the course of the comic, but not too many! Interesting :) Thanks for the links!

[Giggling Ghast]

He killed a couple beetle-man slavers too.

[Sunken Valley]

He is not only the last OOTS member to ever kill something, he is the only one who has never killed a named character (or for that matter, any character with listed appearances in the appearance thread)

[thereaper]

Durkon? Belkar? Vaarsuvius? Haley?

[martianmister]

Durkon? Belkar? Vaarsuvius? Haley?

He didn't kill them. YET

[Copperdragon]

A lot of hobgoblins and orcs and...?

The idea that Elan is somewhat refraining from killing is... sorry... ridiculous. He's an adventurer and knee-deep in blood of beings he killed. He's using his rapier for something, it's not just there for style...

[euch]

Durkon? Belkar? Vaarsuvius? Haley?

Haley killed celia
V killed the ABD
Belkar killed the prophet
Durkon? well, he killed a recurring tree

[GnomeGninjas]

Haley killed celia


Celia is still alive. Haley never attacked her.

[Elanorea]

Celia is still alive. Haley never attacked her.
He might be thinking of Crystal.



Durkon? well, he killed a recurring tree
Durkon killed Zz'dtri.

[Cizak]

Roy's brain cells. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0693.html)

[littlebum2002]

V killed the ABD


Since you're calling it the "Adult Black Dragon", I think that proves his point that "V has never killed a NAMED character"

[Solse]

Since you're calling it the "Adult Black Dragon", I think that proves his point that "V has never killed a NAMED character"

How about Kubota, then?

[littlebum2002]

How about Kubota, then?

Good call. And since Durkon has killed Zz'diri, I guess it's true that Elan is the only one not to kill a major named character

[Pyron]

Everytime Elan uses his puns, it kills me. :smallsmile:

[Sir_Leorik]

Everytime Elan uses his puns, it kills me. :smallsmile:

In a good way, I presume. :smallbiggrin:

[Gift Jeraff]

How about Kubota, then?

And Penelope, Gina Draketooth, Orrin Draketooth, Sami Draketooth, Kanta Draketooth, Venna Draketooth, Tiran Sr. Draketooth, Tiran Jr. Draketooth, Dylan Draketooth, and Liana Draketooth.

[Mauve Shirt]

Uh, yeah. Elan has killed plenty of hobgoblins and monsters, ever since he took Dashing Swordsman.
Named characters or rivals, never.

[dps]

Good call. And since Durkon has killed Zz'diri, I guess it's true that Elan is the only one not to kill a major named character

Has Roy killed a named character? Xykon doesn't count, 'cause his phylactery wasn't destroyed, allowing him to regenerate, and Thog doesn't count 'cause we're not sure he's dead.

[SebastionMaugri]

Has Roy killed a named character? Xykon doesn't count, 'cause his phylactery wasn't destroyed, allowing him to regenerate, and Thog doesn't count 'cause we're not sure he's dead.

1) Is there anyone making the case that Thog is actually dead? Nale already made the case for "not until you see a body," and I can't imagine Rich would have a character with a decent following die "off-screen" like that.

2) I'll go ahead and nominate Kitty (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0359.html) for Roy's named character kill. I realize it's cheap, but it's clearly named and pretty much all we have to work with.

3) I'm surprised we're leaving Belkar's confirmed kill as "The Oracle" when there are so many actual names...anywhere from Trigak and Yikyik to Buggy Lou. Hell, he tried to pretend he didn't kill named characters not 60 seconds after killing that gnome who'd just given his name.

[Goosefeather]

1) Is there anyone making the case that Thog is actually dead? Nale already made the case for "not until you see a body," and I can't imagine Rich would have a character with a decent following die "off-screen" like that.


I've seen it argued (convincingly, imo) that Thog's death was left ambiguous so as not to give the game away that the Linear Guild's time was up. Thog being explicitly shown as dead at that point would have potentially taken some of the shock value out of the deaths of Zz'dtri and Nale, as it would have more obviously marked the beginning of the end for the LG.

[Evandar]

I'm pretty sure Thog isn't dead just because he is such a great character. He'll be pretty directionless and harmless to the Order with the LG dissolved anyway.

[Anarion]

Elan is against killing in cold blood. He doesn't have a problem fighting slaver bugs or invading armies, but as we've just seen, he didn't want to kill Nale and certainly would never have killed prisoners or anyone that he didn't need to kill. That's also a big reason why he got upset when V killed Kubota, along with the "who was that I just killed" sequence of lines.

On top of that, Elan doesn't do very much damage and none in big bursts, so it's not surprising that he wouldn't have any incidental killing blows on named things.


I'm pretty sure Thog isn't dead just because he is such a great character. He'll be pretty directionless and harmless to the Order with the LG dissolved anyway.

I believe your point was addressed in panel 5 of this comic. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0788.html)

[Forikroder]

Elan is against killing in cold blood. He doesn't have a problem fighting slaver bugs or invading armies, but as we've just seen, he didn't want to kill Nale and certainly would never have killed prisoners or anyone that he didn't need to kill. That's also a big reason why he got upset when V killed Kubota, along with the "who was that I just killed" sequence of lines.

On top of that, Elan doesn't do very much damage and none in big bursts, so it's not surprising that he wouldn't have any incidental killing blows on named things.



I believe your point was addressed in panel 5 of this comic. (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0788.html)

Thog could be useful for Tarquin now that he knows that Nales is really out of the picture, he could air drop him in an enemy area (like in a city there trying to break) and tell them that there holding nale somewhere or they killed nale and just let him go berserk, if he survives long enough for them to pick him up then they get to reuse him

[Stone Heart]

Elan may not have killed any named characters, but it seems fairly likely that he might be the one to kill Tarquin in the end. On the other hand, it also seems very likely that he will go out of his way to explicitly not kill him.

[Souju]

Thog could be useful for Tarquin now that he knows that Nales is really out of the picture, he could air drop him in an enemy area (like in a city there trying to break) and tell them that there holding nale somewhere or they killed nale and just let him go berserk, if he survives long enough for them to pick him up then they get to reuse him

Why do that when they can use the Allosaurus? Thog's loyalty to Nale makes him a liability. Remember when Elan got Thog to cooperate with him?

[137beth]

Elan may not have killed any named characters, but it seems fairly likely that he might be the one to kill Tarquin in the end. On the other hand, it also seems very likely that he will go out of his way to explicitly not kill him.

I think Xykon will kill Tarquin. Tarquin wants to be remembered as the arch-villain, and there's no way that will happen if he is the minor villain whose only function is to be killed off early to show how tough the real villain is.