View Full Version : D&D 3.5: Template Idea, need help

2006-12-21, 02:03 PM
I have a template idea, but it's still pretty wonky. Will you help?
Here it is:

Chaos Shadow (inherited template); Size unchanged, Type Outsider (native to Plane of Shadows), +20 to speeds, +5 nat. armor, SA: shadow poison (DC 18, 1st & 2nd damage 3 Con), change shape, shadow spells as s.l.a.s 1/day, scent, regeneration 5, low-light vision, darkvision +100, Abilities -6 Str, +4 Dex, +2 Con, +4 Int, +0 Wis, +2 Cha, Multiattack as bonus feat; Fav. class Rogue

Change shape: can become 2D, like a shadow, at will. In fact, this may be the 'basic' form of the creature.
Shadow poison: for creatures that don't have bite or claw attack, this can be applied to weapons.
Regeneration: cannot reattach lost limbs

2006-12-21, 08:14 PM
It's best to have a template with an even drop or raising of ability scores. Odd numbered ability bonuses or penalties could result in no raising or lowering of modifiers. Which is not a good thing.

2007-01-22, 02:54 PM
Okay, thanks. Anything else?

2007-01-22, 03:09 PM
Usually, a template wouldn't modify a creatures treasure, except for the augmentation in challenge-rating/ECL. The bonus on saves seems a bit peculiar, more relevant to Hit-Dice than simply a template. The idea is interesting, but what does the template imply for story?

2007-01-22, 05:20 PM
Sort of like a bogeyman. Maybe your shadow is out to get you, or the shadows in your bedroom are watching you and moving on their own . . .
I'm gonna edit a few things from your suggestions. Anything more?

2007-01-23, 08:51 PM
You may want to figure out the LA...

2007-01-24, 02:18 AM
I have a hard time doing that. It just never makes sense . . .

2007-01-24, 02:51 AM
Regen 5 is +3 but without the ability to reattach limbs... +1, The stat bonuses... a total of 3 points is a +1 LA Unless counterweighted... 6 points, +2+ 5 Natural Armor, Movement speed and saves... +3, Racial Abilities other than regeneration +4... Totaling... 10.

2007-01-24, 02:54 AM
If you got more specific with "Shadow Spells" It may lower the AL, alternatively, since it is the shadow of the person base it off of the person and make it's bonuses versus more limited. I can help you with that, we could without weakening it very much while making it more sensable mabey take it down to a +2 3 or 4 if you would accept my advice. And it would be a more... WTC freindly Template. But i would prefer to do so in a less disruptive manner than filling this thread. As such things stand it is far more powerful than a half-dragon.

*edit* oops, sorry about the double post, I intended to push edit on my last post. >_<

2007-01-24, 12:51 PM
Okay. PM me some time.

2007-01-26, 03:11 PM
I did so. Made any Improvements yet?

2007-01-26, 11:48 PM
A few, but not all yet.

2007-02-09, 02:55 PM
bump. (Bumped)