Incanta-gish

[cbaidchris]

opinions on incantatrix in a gish build most likely with wizard along with the other usual suspects (abjurant champion/eldritch knight) primarily focusing on polymorph

[Grod_The_Giant]

Broken-metamagic-shennanigans verses a high natural BAB. I'd go with the second, as being less likely to make my DM wince.

[Vaz]

If going Gish, you'd get more use (IMHO) out of Wu Jen because Body Outside Body for Cooperative Metamagic is useable, and your clones can Arcane Strike away for fun and pleasure.

For your parties and DM's make, dropping Persists isn't much fun, especially on stuff like Wraithstrike. Other Metamagics can become more flexible.

[Snowbluff]

The Now Standard Swiftblade is Wizard6/Swiftblade9/SpellDancer1/AbjurantChampion4. Incantratrix doesn't work as well because they can only add MM for free on existing spells, which Haste obviously is not. It's a bit overkill, however.

[Piggy Knowles]

What metamagic does a swiftblade need to add to haste? Persisting or quickening it doesn't really matter much for a swiftblade.

[Snowbluff]

What metamagic does a swiftblade need to add to haste? Persisting or quickening it doesn't really matter much for a swiftblade.

Ocular and Persist. Recasting it every fight is still a pain, not having class features out of combat is a pain, and it's still only round/level. Since it's (Ex), you don't have to worry about it being dispelled like other persistent effects.

Plus, the previous build is only 1 feat away from adding Spelldancer, so it's the best bet.

[Firechanter]

You can easily use Incantatrix for Gish just by taking the Arcane Disciple feat, for the War domain. You've got access to Divine Power now, which you can persist with your uber 'trix p0werz. Congrats, your BAB has just climbed to 20/20 and you get Str bonus and HP on top of it.

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Fighter 2/ Wizard 4/ Spellsword 1/ Incantatrix 4/ Abjurant Champion 5/ Eldritch Knight 4 gets +16 BAB, 9th level spells, and as much of Incantatrix as you'll need for persistent spell shenanigans. You can replace the first six levels with Human or Elf Paragon 1/ Fighter 1/ Wizard 2/ Human or Elf Paragon 2 if you want.