One feat, no prerequisites.

[Ekul]

So I had an interesting idea floating around in my head. There's so many feats or prestige classes that would be decent if only their feat prerequisite wasn't so steep. Feats often serve as obstacles rather than building blocks. Take Spring Attack or Karmic Strike, they're great but they're just not worth the feat tax.

What would you build if your character started with one extra feat, no strings attached and with no need for prerequisites? Rogues and Monks who take Rhoblar's Gambit immediately. Persist, with no Extend. Improved familiars with no caster level. Racial feats accessible to all, as long as it's just one.

So what say you?

[Zanos]

Arcane Transfiguration on a focused specialist, maybe. Or Uncanny Forethought.

[NeoPhoenix0]

It's not really powerful, but I'd take spring attack. Then I could enter the Jaunter prestige class, or it's arcane adaptation, without having 4 BAB.

I would also qualify for some other stuff with a feat tax.

[Nettlekid]

Epic Spellcasting

It would probably end up just being some weird feat that helps get into a powerful PrC. Or something strong that usually only Dragons can use or something. Or one at the end of a feat chain which thus implies that you get to use the powers of all the feats (It would be pretty impossible to take Shock Trooper and not get the benefit of Power Attack.)

[Roguenewb]

Uncanny forethought is awesome, but it doesn't function without spell mastery.

Assuming we are ignoring epic feats (which are broken), its probably something like Weapon Supremacy. Or something wacky like Extra Rage on a warblade to get rages.

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Permanent Emanation (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/feats.htm#permanentEmanation): Greater Consumptive Field, considering being able to cast the spell is included in its prerequisites which you're able to ignore. Go walk past an anthill, millions die to your Greater Consumptive Field, the bonuses never go away.

[Zanos]

Uncanny forethought is awesome, but it doesn't function without spell mastery.

Assuming we are ignoring epic feats (which are broken), its probably something like Weapon Supremacy. Or something wacky like Extra Rage on a warblade to get rages.


Alternatively, as a full-round action, you can use a reserved slot to cast any spell that you know. The spell is resolved as normal, but for the purpose of the spell, your caster level is reduced by two. The level of the slot used must be equal to or greater than the level of the spell you intend to cast.

The primary function doesn't work without spell mastery, but the (arguably) superior secondary function does. Sure it's not great in combat, but you never really have to prepare out of combat spells again.

[Silva Stormrage]

Permanent Emanation (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/feats.htm#permanentEmanation): Greater Consumptive Field, considering being able to cast the spell is included in its prerequisites which you're able to ignore. Go walk past an anthill, millions die to your Greater Consumptive Field, the bonuses never go away.

Hm that would be slightly annoying if you wanted to walk into town. You could murder a lot of people randomly if you did that. (Level 1-2 commoners and experts but still).

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Hm that would be slightly annoying if you wanted to walk into town. You could murder a lot of people randomly if you did that. (Level 1-2 commoners and experts but still).

The feat allows you to dismiss and resume it as a free action....

[ArcturusV]

Probably take one of those lame feats that are prereqs to things I really want like "Thrall to a Demon" or "Knight of the Stars". I always hated that I had to burn feats on what I consider to be one of the worst feats (That is actually functional) in the game for PrC access.

[Gnome Alone]

"Ok guys, we're going into town. Don't get too drunk, meet back here by dusk, and Laladariflex, for the love of the gods, dispel your magic murderfield this time."

[Stegyre]

"Ok guys, we're going into town. Don't get too drunk, meet back here by dusk, and Laladariflex, for the love of the gods, dispel your magic murderfield this time."
Yet another reason the forum needs a "like" button.

[atomicwaffle]

Cleric lvl 1 with Divine Armor. GL

[Glimbur]

Open Chakra; Soul if you don't mind being a bad man. Incarnum has abilities which you get at reasonable levels, unless you cheat using this ability.

But apart from that... Weapon Supremacy would be nice but not game-breaking, Whirlwind Attack is fun but again not awful, Easy Metamagic might be a problem... I can see abuses for this, but they don't feel awful to me. Try it and see what happens.

[Silva Stormrage]

The feat allows you to dismiss and resume it as a free action....

Somehow I missed that. Nevermind :smallredface:

[Snowbluff]

Improved Familiar, if I don't use something already stated.

The warlock epic feat, Shadowmaster (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ei/20061027a), if I was doing something epic. Shades at will, concealment, and I don't have to take the invocations I don't like. I couldn't afford epic spell research, and I wouldn't have the ranks for epic spell slots, anyway.

[Ekul]

Imagine the tricks you could pull off with Dragonwrought. Or any dragon feats.

Also, Epic Leadership. Capless leadership right from the start. Want to command thousands of minions before epic? Boom, there you go. To be fair, though, it'd take a while to kick in. But reasonable optimization should mitigate that.

[EvilAvocado]

Permanent Emanation (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/feats.htm#permanentEmanation): Greater Consumptive Field, considering being able to cast the spell is included in its prerequisites which you're able to ignore. Go walk past an anthill, millions die to your Greater Consumptive Field, the bonuses never go away.

I'm pretty sure you only get the bonuses from creatures of 3 CR below you or less. Greater consumptive field is a level 8 spell meaning you would only get the bonuses from CR 5 creatures and up.


Edit: Also, I don't see why the bonuses never go away.

[Zanos]

I'm pretty sure you only get the bonuses from creatures of 3 CR below you or less. Greater consumptive field is a level 8 spell meaning you would only get the bonuses from CR 5 creatures and up.


Edit: Also, I don't see why the bonuses never go away.
The bonuses wouldn't go away unless you dismissed the spell. It's permanent. That's what permanent emanation does.

I don't see anything anywhere about any sort of CR requirement.

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

I'm pretty sure you only get the bonuses from creatures of 3 CR below you or less. Greater consumptive field is a level 8 spell meaning you would only get the bonuses from CR 5 creatures and up.


Edit: Also, I don't see why the bonuses never go away.

There's no CR requirement whatsoever for what creatures you get bonuses from killing with the field. A 20th level Cleric could spend 200 gp to get 10,000 chickens (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/wealthAndMoney.htm#wealthOtherThanCoins), then cast Greater Consumptive Field and kill all of them with it to get +20,000 strength and +45,000 temporary HP just before the party Wizard teleports them all into the BBEG's lair.

And as it was already pointed out, Permanent Emanation makes the spell, and the cumulative bonuses it grants, permanent.

[Jurai]

I'd grab Final Strike (Cold) from Savage Species. Oh, look, Mister Red Wyrmling that ate me, you're now a popsicle. On my next character, go Evil and grab Demonsworn Knight . Free Chaotic and Evil damage typing, plus half-bane vs. Lawful Outsiders.

[Erik Vale]

If I wanted to break the game.... Come back in a little but probably Shadowmaster as it isn't entirely cheesy and I get all those oh so useful conjuration spells, such as wish through summons.

If i didn't race dependant but probably something along the lines of multitasking or multivoice given my current prediliction for many armed/2 headed warlocks.

[nedz]

Extra Invocation

With pre-reqs waived I don't need any levels of Warlock and I can take a Dark invocation at level 1

The Dark ones are a bit poor though
Path of Shadow — Shadow walk
Retributive Invisibility — Greater Invisibility with a rider
Dark Foresight — Immune to suprise and being flatfooted
Steal Summons

The Greater Invocations of Caustic Mire or Chilling Tenticles should suffice for a few levels.

Even just Fell Flight would be game breaking at level 1

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Extra Invocation

With pre-reqs waived I don't need any levels of Warlock and I can take a Dark invocation at level 1

The Dark ones are a bit poor though
Path of Shadow — Shadow walk
Retributive Invisibility — Greater Invisibility with a rider
Dark Foresight — Immune to suprise and being flatfooted
Steal Summons

The Greater Invocations of Caustic Mire or Chilling Tenticles should suffice for a few levels.

Even just Fell Flight would be game breaking at level 1

Take one of these instead. (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ei/20061027a) Master of the Elements allows you to summon an Elder Elemental at will. Morpheme Savant gives you Power Word: Blind, Power Word: Kill, and Power Word: Stun at will. Or get Displacement and Shades at will and be immune to shadow effects. Or use Creeping Doom at will and be able to Dominate Monster on anything with the vermin creature type at will, and no vermin will ever attack you willingly.

[Jack_Simth]

So I had an interesting idea floating around in my head. There's so many feats or prestige classes that would be decent if only their feat prerequisite wasn't so steep. Feats often serve as obstacles rather than building blocks. Take Spring Attack or Karmic Strike, they're great but they're just not worth the feat tax.

What would you build if your character started with one extra feat, no strings attached and with no need for prerequisites? Rogues and Monks who take Rhoblar's Gambit immediately. Persist, with no Extend. Improved familiars with no caster level. Racial feats accessible to all, as long as it's just one.

So what say you?
Innate Spell (Miracle). Any inexpensive 7th level or lower spell available as an at-will standard action. Any inexpensive 8th level or lower cleric spell available as an at-will standard action. Plus, of course, the other normal uses of Miracle.