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Grim Portent
2013-09-26, 08:32 AM
I have an idea for a character build but it needs to be an Outsider, preferably native and non-good. Can anyone recommend a decent outsider race or template that doesn't have a crippling LA?

Psyren
2013-09-26, 08:40 AM
Neraphim (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20040613a&page=2) are 0 LA outsiders.

(Or you could play Pathfinder)

Darrin
2013-09-26, 09:08 AM
The other two Outsider options without LA are Savage Progression Aasimar/Tiefling (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040213a).

Grim Portent
2013-09-26, 10:11 AM
I would have thought there'd be more than that for LA0 outsiders. Tiefling is the most suitable for entering Mortal Hunter thematically I guess, though I like the idea of playing an evil Aasimar.

Thanks for the help guys.

Yogibear41
2013-09-26, 10:18 AM
an evil Aasimar.


Blasphemy! Also 2nd on the tiefling. Cuz being a frog man is just weird.

Darrin
2013-09-26, 10:36 AM
I would have thought there'd be more than that for LA0 outsiders.


Player's Guide to Faerun has the Otherworldly regional feat, but that only works with Deep Imaskari, elves, or spirit folk.

Grim Portent
2013-09-26, 10:49 AM
Blasphemy!

That was rather the idea. :smalltongue:

ShurikVch
2013-09-26, 11:51 AM
Glimmerfolk from Dragon #321 are LA +0 native outsiders.

Ghost from Ghostwalk is template with LA +0.

Technically, LA of White Slaad is also +0, but 24 HD...

Halbaradkenafin
2013-09-27, 01:41 AM
Buoman are also LA 0 and in the planar handbook I recall.

Vaz
2013-09-27, 03:24 AM
Lesser Planetouched are by RAW LA+0, but it is unlikely to be intended and instead most DM's rule as reducing existing LA by 1.

SciChronic
2013-09-27, 03:59 AM
Lesser Planetouched are by RAW LA+0, but it is unlikely to be intended and instead most DM's rule as reducing existing LA by 1.

he wants the outsider(native) typing though, which lesser planetouched removes

if homebrew is allowed, the Alu-fiend race i created (see signature) has really interesting applications in espionage/city-based campaigns. Has a +2 LA though.

Vaz
2013-09-27, 04:03 AM
Woops, forgot the type change. Any outsider can be made into a native creature, using the naturalizaed denizen feat from UA.