what type of *unusual* were-creatures you would find in a city? [Archive]

The Mentalist

2013-09-28, 01:13 AM

Tvtyrant

2013-09-28, 01:15 AM

Owls are silent and sneaky plus flying, and were-owls would be a hoot. Oh yes, I went there.

I imagine the were-critter would be dependent on the region, as a were-albatross would be fine by the beach but weird in an arctic environment, or a were-serval in a desert city (low level pounce!.)

Telonius

2013-09-28, 01:17 AM

I'd go with some nuisance animals: dog, squirrel, raccoon, skunk, maybe fox or armadillo.

Immabozo

2013-09-28, 01:19 AM

Were-Racoons

If you're willing to disregard the size component or use Dire sizes Insects are a good choice, Were Roaches and Flies.

In a more rural environment or a farming community, weresheep horses, goats, all the bitey farm animals. Could also expand out to foxes and possums.

I dont remember the term, but there is a separate Lycanthropy type thingie for insects and vermin, but lycanthropy cannot infect insects and vermin.

I would love to find were-coms (I loved the story I heard about someone getting bitten by an inter-dimensional, inter-planar evil were-cow). Were sheep, Were-horse, were-rabbits (weakness to Thy Holy Hand Grenade)

and I would LOVE some were penguins!

The Mentalist

2013-09-28, 01:20 AM

Owls are silent and sneaky plus flying, and were-owls would be a hoot.

I'm reporting you to the pun police.

The Mentalist

2013-09-28, 01:21 AM

and I would LOVE some were penguins!

If you ask Bhu in the homebrewing forum for some of these things he may be able to provide them. I think he already has stats for a Penguin or two and he often does silly monsters.

ArcturusV

2013-09-28, 01:56 AM

Since most DnD cities have oddly in depth sewage systems that don't quite fit the reference for a lot of the setting? Might as well go with Were-Gator. The urban legend of DnD Cities. :smallwink:

Were-Fox is another that would fit a lot of locations.

Were-Bat, go for it. Especially since a lot of DnD cities seem to be within spitting distances of cave systems.

gurgleflep

2013-09-28, 02:17 AM

Werebadgers could work in a more country area, as could werecoyote, werebunnies, and weresquirrels.
If you're going for a jungle-like city, werekomodo, werepython, wereanaconda, werecrocodile, weregorilla, werelemur...

Zanos

2013-09-28, 02:20 AM

I dont remember the term, but there is a separate Lycanthropy type thingie for insects and vermin, but lycanthropy cannot infect insects and vermin.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20040621a

It's pretty awesome.

Manly Man

2013-09-28, 03:40 AM

Have a werespider with that entomanothropy thing. If it's a warm place, have her be a weretarantula instead, and give her a special attack that works kinda like an itching, burning sort of glitterdust. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cPxqjSG6HU)

Ranting Fool

2013-09-28, 04:01 AM

I can't believe no one has yet done Wareroach! (Well Entomanothropy Roach but that doesn't sound as cool :smallbiggrin: )

gurgleflep

2013-09-28, 04:32 AM

I can't believe no one has yet done Wareroach! (Well Entomanothropy Roach but that doesn't sound as cool :smallbiggrin: )

Somebody did mention them :smalltongue:

Were-Racoons

If you're willing to disregard the size component or use Dire sizes Insects are a good choice, Were Roaches and Flies.

In a more rural environment or a farming community, weresheep horses, goats, all the bitey farm animals. Could also expand out to foxes and possums.

Ranting Fool

2013-09-28, 04:48 AM

Somebody did mention them :smalltongue:

Curse my skim reading habits! :smallbiggrin:

ShurikVch

2013-09-28, 07:00 AM

and I would LOVE some were penguins!

Since most DnD cities have oddly in depth sewage systems that don't quite fit the reference for a lot of the setting? Might as well go with Were-Gator.
...
Were-Bat, go for it. Especially since a lot of DnD cities seem to be within spitting distances of cave systems.
Were-penguin, Were-Gator, Were-Bat... :smallconfused:
Add in thief-acrobat were-cat girl and chaotic evil jester with leadership and recreate you D&D version of Arkham City :smallbiggrin:

Red Fel

2013-09-28, 07:28 AM

A big city just isn't a big city without an abandoned were-house or two.

TripleD

2013-09-28, 07:39 AM

Were-dogs.

But not the big hunting dog variety, I mean those yippy little purse-rats.

Imagine the high born lords and ladies, trotting around their pooping little fashion accessories, not knowing that they are being stalked by an assassin. The cats-paw draws close, only to have Mr.Bigglesworth smell them, jump out of its owner's arms, and shift into the 7"2 Orc bodyguard it was all along.

nedz

2013-09-28, 07:41 AM

Were-Lawyers, Were-Bankers and Were-Traffic Wardens :smallbiggrin:

ShurikVch

2013-09-28, 08:02 AM

TripleD

2013-09-28, 08:17 AM

I dunno if any dogs smaller than small size was statted officially, and "small size" is at least 2 ft. long

TripleD's Rule-O'-Thumb For Tiny Animals:
Any non-magical animal smaller than "Small" has 1hp, 10AC, and dies when you step on it.

avr

2013-09-28, 08:39 AM

If it's a port city, were-anything-with-fins or -flippers is possible. Hail the werewhale!

Chronos

2013-09-28, 09:03 AM

Still no mention of werepigeons?

dspeyer

2013-09-28, 09:41 AM

To create a werecreature, the animal and humanoid must be within a size category of eachother. So you could have a halfling werecat or wereowl, but not a human one.

VariSami

2013-09-28, 10:27 AM

Still no mention of werepigeons?

I was thinking the same. Also, Weregulls in port cities.

mattie_p

2013-09-28, 10:49 AM

Please note the following requirement on the animal in order to qualify:

This animal can be any predator, scavenger, or omnivore whose size is within one size category of the base creature’s size (Small, Medium, or Large for a Medium base creature).

Out of the animals suggested in this thread, I think the following won't work.

The Mentalist: Were-sheep, were-horses, were-goats

Telonius: Were-squirrel

Immabozo: Were-cow, Were sheep, Were-horse, were-rabbits

gurgleflap: werebunnies, weresquirrels

Manly Man

2013-09-28, 11:04 AM

I can testify that the rabbit is entirely justified (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmu5sRIizdw).

VariSami

2013-09-28, 11:42 AM

Out of the animals suggested in this thread, I think the following won't work.

The Mentalist: Were-sheep, were-horses, were-goats

Telonius: Were-squirrel

Immabozo: Were-cow, Were sheep, Were-horse, were-rabbits

gurgleflap: werebunnies, weresquirrels

I understand that technically a goat is not an omnivore but that might be because the definition of omnivore is lacking and not vice versa. Squirrels are actually omnivores: they eat the eggs and chicks of small birds, I hear.

Oh, here (https://sites.google.com/site/squirrelfactsandinformation/what-do-squirrels-eat)'s some confirmation:
Most squirrels eat acorns, nuts, fruits, and seeds. Other sources of food may include berries, pine seeds, grains and corn, mushrooms, wild cherries, insects, and on some occasions, bird's eggs.

“there is universal acceptance [by biologists] that squirrels eat meat,” even though, “not all biologists accept the idea of squirrels as frequent predators.” Birds are one of several sources of meat for squirrels.

Tvtyrant

2013-09-28, 11:44 AM

I'm reporting you to the pun police.

They can't catch me, I live in a town :smallyuk:

Invader

2013-09-28, 12:34 PM

Do you mean unusual as in creatures you don't usually see as were creatures or unusual were creatures you don't usual see in a city. Or both?

Sure were dogs and were cats are different but that's exactly what youd expect to see in a city so it doesn't feel that exciting to me. How about a large bird of prey were creature and play it as a quasimodo type that acts like a robin hood but never takes and credit eve though the cities people hate him.

Madgod's Lament

2013-09-28, 12:36 PM

Please note the following requirement on the animal in order to qualify:

Out of the animals suggested in this thread, I think the following won't work.

The Mentalist: Were-sheep, were-horses, were-goats

Telonius: Were-squirrel

Immabozo: Were-cow, Were sheep, Were-horse, were-rabbits

gurgleflap: werebunnies, weresquirrels

squirrels, have been known to eat snakes (or at least try):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-iqFx7vP18

They'll also occasionally try to eat birds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccl3KFZverk

edit: ninja'd by VariSami!

Immabozo

2013-09-28, 01:05 PM

A big city just isn't a big city without an abandoned were-house or two.

greatest pun of the thread!

And for all you nay sayers, children are small. Obese people are at least large, Gnome children are probably tiny and The basketball players of D&D are large to. So stop your size-based naysaying.

Need I remind out of the world record smallest woman ever was 21.5 inches? The tallest man was 8 foot 11.1 inches and showed no sign of stopping when he died due to an infection.

So stop your naysaying, always (bleep)ing naysaying!

mattie_p

2013-09-28, 01:12 PM

I understand that technically a goat is not an omnivore but that might be because the definition of omnivore is lacking and not vice versa. Squirrels are actually omnivores: they eat the eggs and chicks of small birds, I hear.

Oh, here (https://sites.google.com/site/squirrelfactsandinformation/what-do-squirrels-eat)'s some confirmation:
Most squirrels eat acorns, nuts, fruits, and seeds. Other sources of food may include berries, pine seeds, grains and corn, mushrooms, wild cherries, insects, and on some occasions, bird's eggs.

“there is universal acceptance [by biologists] that squirrels eat meat,” even though, “not all biologists accept the idea of squirrels as frequent predators.” Birds are one of several sources of meat for squirrels.

squirrels, have been known to eat snakes (or at least try):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-iqFx7vP18

They'll also occasionally try to eat birds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccl3KFZverk

edit: ninja'd by VariSami!

Sorry, I didn't do too much research, but I did check a website (http://thesquirrelboard.com/squirrel_nutrition.htm). It looked authoritative enough. It came up in a recent Iron Chef, where someone tried to do a were-camel, as I recall. Found it (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15668709&postcount=188).

Madgod's Lament

2013-09-28, 01:32 PM

*stares dumbly at were-camel build pointed out by mattie*

wha-

I don-

I give up

nedz

2013-09-28, 02:16 PM

ShurikVch

2013-09-28, 02:29 PM

In response to the size question, Last time I checked Rats (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/rat.htm) are Tiny and yet Human Were-Rats (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/lycanthrope.htm#wererat) are in the SRD :smallconfused:

Is this a Rules Dysfunction ?
Size can be ... corrected
Reduce Person/Animal Growth, Minute Form/Giant Size, Compression/Expansion, Steal Size...
Also, maybe the rat in question has Powerful Build?

Immabozo

2013-09-28, 02:31 PM

We don't seem to have had ... Were-Crow

I said were cow!

gurgleflep

2013-09-28, 02:33 PM

I said were cow!

Yeah, but he was asking for a were crow :smallsmile::smalltongue:

ShurikVch

2013-09-28, 02:35 PM

Please note the following requirement on the animal in order to qualify:
...
...Were-sheep...
Were-sheep is flow for commoners from the same number (and page) as (in)famous Chicken-infested.

Manly Man

2013-09-28, 02:35 PM

Ravenica

2013-09-28, 02:36 PM

If the city is in a mountainous or densely forested region you could definately encounter a were-eagle

and theres a number of specious of turtle that you could be "a were of" :smallyuk:

mattie_p

2013-09-28, 02:37 PM

We don't seem to have had Were-Fox or Were-Crow or Were-Magpie or Were-Jay or Were-Seagull.

In response to the size question, Last time I checked Rats (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/rat.htm) are Tiny and yet Human Were-Rats (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/lycanthrope.htm#wererat) are in the SRD :smallconfused:

Is this a Rules Dysfunction ?

This is not. The were-rat lycanthrope form (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/lycanthrope.htm#wererat) specifies it is a Dire-rat (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/direRat.htm), which is size small (and combined with a medium human).

ShurikVch

2013-09-28, 02:48 PM

TripleD's Rule-O'-Thumb For Tiny Animals:
Any non-magical animal smaller than "Small" has 1hp, 10AC, and dies when you step on it.
Good rule.
But any good rules have exceptions.
Tiny animals:
Penguin - 2 hp (Frostburn),
Compsognatus - 4 hp (dinosaur, Dr#318),
Fox - 4 hp (Aldriv's Revenge),
Tressym - 2 hp (FRCS),
Fox - 5 hp (Dr#280),
Hare - 4 hp (Dr#280),
Otter - 2 hp (Dr#277/280),
Raccoon - 6 hp (Dr#280),
Skunk - 2 hp (Dr#280)

Forrestfire

2013-09-28, 02:52 PM

I've always been a fan of halfling or gnome were-rat swarms, myself.

nedz

2013-09-28, 02:56 PM

This is not. The were-rat lycanthrope form (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/lycanthrope.htm#wererat) specifies it is a Dire-rat (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/direRat.htm), which is size small (and combined with a medium human).

OK, but in that case we should have Dire versions of most of the animals listed already in this thread.

ShurikVch

2013-09-28, 03:00 PM

I've always been a fan of halfling or gnome were-rat swarms, myself.
Why not a were-bat swarm? It's one HD less, can fly and immune to weapon!

Yuki Akuma

2013-09-28, 03:10 PM

I think some people are forgetting something important: lycanthropes can only be carnivores, omnivores and scavengers.

So no werehorses.

mattie_p

2013-09-28, 03:11 PM

I think some people are forgetting something important: lycanthropes can only be carnivores, omnivores and scavengers.

So no werehorses.

I were-saged you (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16115723&postcount=26) by more than 4 hours!

Although, I question the motives behind the pony-avatared one dismissing were-horses. I leave you with this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRB_sj1AIcc).

nedz

2013-09-28, 03:13 PM

I think some people are forgetting something important: lycanthropes can only be carnivores, omnivores and scavengers.

So no werehorses.

But, but, Wereponies.

Yuki Akuma

2013-09-28, 03:15 PM

I were-saged you (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16115723&postcount=26) by more than 5 hours!

Hush......

gurgleflep

2013-09-28, 03:17 PM

I think some people are forgetting something important: lycanthropes can only be carnivores, omnivores and scavengers.

So no werehorses.

This is from this webpage. (http://horses.about.com/od/feedingyourhorse/a/What-Not-To-Feed-A-Horse.htm)

Deadly Equines, The Shocking True Story of Meat-Eating & Murderous Horses by CuChullaine O'Reilly, the Founder of the Long Riders' Guild explores the fact that horses can and do eat meat (and can appear to behave in quite a violent manner to get it). However, that they can and do eat meat does not mean that they should. A horse may be trained to eat meat, or it may be driven to it by need. This doesn’t mean that a regular diet of meat in the long-term is a good thing. Your horse may like an occasional bite of your hamburger or salmon sandwich and can eat it without harm. However, since we don’t know the long-term effects on most horses, a diet high in meat would be inadvisable (along with expensive). Horses have the teeth and digestive system of a highly specialized herbivore. Few of us are going to take our horses on Antarctic expeditions and our horses will likely be healthiest eating the diet their digestive system evolved to digest.

So they can eat meat and do, but it's not suggested.

Forrestfire

2013-09-28, 03:26 PM

Why not a were-bat swarm? It's one HD less, can fly and immune to weapon!

Because bat swarms are diminutive, so you'd have to be tiny in base form to be one.

JusticeZero

2013-09-28, 03:32 PM

Common urban animals at this time include rat, cat, dog, raccoon, cockroach, pigeon, seagull, falcon, and the occasional local oddity - Anchorage has urban moose, for instance, and other cities often have a local bit of wildlife adapting to a local city.

ShurikVch

2013-09-28, 03:34 PM

Because bat swarms are diminutive, so you'd have to be tiny in base form to be one.

Mite - tiny humanoids from Kingdoms of Kalamar.
Str -4, Dex +4, Int -2, maybe Cha -2. LA +0. (In fact, racial traits unlisted, I just take it from monster statblock by rule "If even, -10; if odd, -11")

Also, kobolds count as tiny via Slight Build

Theafroscotsman

2013-09-28, 04:30 PM

Were-crocodiles. Crocs in your sewers? Crocs in your bed. And your shoe rack.

123456789blaaa

2013-09-28, 04:35 PM

Why not a were-bat swarm? It's one HD less, can fly and immune to weapon!

The problem is that it doesn't get the swarm subtype or swarm traits. Those are the best parts of being a swarm. Without them, changing into a swarm kind of sucks horribly :smallfrown:.

Immabozo

2013-09-28, 04:42 PM

Yeah, but he was asking for a were crow :smallsmile::smalltongue:

Damn. Reading comprehension fail, lol

ShurikVch

2013-09-28, 05:03 PM

The problem is that it doesn't get the swarm subtype or swarm traits. Those are the best parts of being a swarm. Without them, changing into a swarm kind of sucks horribly :smallfrown:.
Why? What's the problem?

TuggyNE

2013-09-28, 05:52 PM

And for all you nay sayers, children are small. Obese people are at least large, Gnome children are probably tiny and The basketball players of D&D are large to. So stop your size-based naysaying.

Need I remind out of the world record smallest woman ever was 21.5 inches?The tallest man was 8 foot 11.1 inches and showed no sign of stopping when he died due to an infection.

Medium creatures are 60 lb. - 500 lb. (generally; this is descriptive, not prescriptive, and many Medium creatures have different weights without changing size category) and 4-8' tall. Average basketball player height is 6'6", so hardly any of them would be at all out of Medium size, and the tiny number of exceptions can be ignored.

Lycanthropy arguably doesn't work based on your current immature size category, but on the size category you'll be when you grow up. (Also, most children reach 4' around age 7, so even that doesn't apply for as long as you might think.)

Chronos

2013-09-28, 05:59 PM

More to the point, a juvenile lycanthrope presumably turns into a juvenile animal, which is probably also smaller than an adult. So if an adult human can't be a were(non-dire) rat because rats are tiny, then a human child can't be a were(non-dire) rat either, because young rats are diminutive.

Immabozo

2013-09-28, 06:11 PM

You both bring up solid points.

However, I wonder what happens when you use like Mountain Rage or something. Like temp. large size. I guess it would be like the infants getting were-rats or something.

123456789blaaa

2013-09-28, 06:13 PM

Why? What's the problem?

Traits
A swarm has no clear front or back and no discernable anatomy, so it is not subject to critical hits or flanking. A swarm made up of Tiny creatures takes half damage from slashing and piercing weapons. A swarm composed of Fine or Diminutive creatures is immune to all weapon damage. Reducing a swarm to 0 hit points or lower causes it to break up, though damage taken until that point does not degrade its ability to attack or resist attack. Swarms are never staggered or reduced to a dying state by damage. Also, they cannot be tripped, grappled, or bull rushed, and they cannot grapple an opponent.

A swarm is immune to any spell or effect that targets a specific number of creatures (including single-target spells such as disintegrate), with the exception of mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, phantasms, patterns, and morale effects) if the swarm has an Intelligence score and a hive mind. A swarm takes half again as much damage (+50%) from spells or effects that affect an area, such as splash weapons and many evocation spells.

Swarms made up of Diminutive or Fine creatures are susceptible to high winds such as that created by a gust of wind spell. For purposes of determining the effects of wind on a swarm, treat the swarm as a creature of the same size as its constituent creatures. A swarm rendered unconscious by means of nonlethal damage becomes disorganized and dispersed, and does not reform until its hit points exceed its nonlethal damage.

A swarm lycanthrope doesn't get any of that.

ShurikVch

2013-09-28, 06:33 PM

A swarm lycanthrope doesn't get any of that.
Since when?

Immabozo

2013-09-28, 07:08 PM

A swarm lycanthrope doesn't get any of that.

Although a swarm and lycanthropes that are from a swarm critter, would be funny

123456789blaaa

2013-09-28, 07:37 PM

Since when?

Alternate Form
A creature with this special quality has the ability to assume one or more specific alternate forms. A true seeing spell or ability reveals the creature’s natural form. A creature using alternate form reverts to its natural form when killed, but separated body parts retain their shape. A creature cannot use alternate form to take the form of a creature with a template. Assuming an alternate form results in the following changes to the creature:
•The creature retains the type and subtype of its original form. It gains the size of its new form. If the new form has the aquatic subtype, the creature gains that subtype as well.
•The creature loses the natural weapons, natural armor, and movement modes of its original form, as well as any extraordinary special attacks of its original form not derived from class levels (such as the barbarian’s rage class feature).
•The creature gains the natural weapons, natural armor, movement modes, and extraordinary special attacks of its new form.
•The creature retains the special qualities of its original form. It does not gain any special qualities of its new form.
<snip>

As you can see, the ability makes no mention of gaining the subtypes of the new form (except for aquatic).

The Swarm traits are also in the Special Qualities row of the statblock but see the second bolded part of the above quote.

ShurikVch

2013-09-28, 07:45 PM

...
Dunno. My books are said:

Alternate Form (Su): A lycanthrope can shift into animal form as though using the polymorph spell on itself...
And polymorph change type and subtype

SoraWolf7

2013-09-28, 07:45 PM

To the claim against were-squirrels, Squirrel Girl. Never underestimate the nut-eaters.

And has no-one pointed out were-peregine falcons? Those things LOVE high-rise buildings.

There is also Coyotes, Deer, and opossums. However, that's just North America. Berlin has Wild Boar, London has Seals and porpoises, india has monkeys and leopards, and Africa has baboons and geckos. My source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_wildlife

inuyasha

2013-09-28, 08:05 PM

If you ask Bhu in the homebrewing forum for some of these things he may be able to provide them. I think he already has stats for a Penguin or two and he often does silly monsters.

Penguins already have stats in Frostburn

avr

2013-09-28, 08:22 PM

On the large side, at least some settings have ogres or other large creatures as minority populations. Therefore you might, possibly, meet an ogre wereorca down some (extremely crowded) dark alley.

Yuki Akuma

2013-09-28, 09:29 PM

Dunno. My books are said:

And polymorph change type and subtype

Alternate Form was errata'd to have its own special rules, rather than referencing Polymorph.

Incidentally, this broke quite a lot of monsters, and should probably just be ignored.

unseenmage

2013-09-29, 12:26 AM

Ogre Mage were-Gelatinous Cube.

The dumb Cube actually drops the Ogre Mage's CR and Level Adjust by a ridiculous amount, it's just that terrible a creature.

This is a recurring villain in every campaign I run because he's funny to me.

The Mentalist

2013-09-29, 12:55 AM

Penguins already have stats in Frostburn

Well I'll have to open that book for the first time in over a year.

A quick google search that says some common nuisance animals in urban areas (in Ohio at least) are Groundhogs, Geese, Skunks, Possums, Woodpeckers, Bats (make one of the larger bat species and stat it as a tiny creature maybe), Snakes, Crows, Pigeons, Raccoons, Mute Swans (http://ohiodnr.com/Default.aspx?tabid=5674#mute_swans)

And though some people don't know this Geese and Swans are dangerous animals, they can break bones with those beaks.

unseenmage

2013-09-29, 12:56 AM

And though some people don't know this Geese and Swans are dangerous animals, they can break bones with those beaks.

Wings actually, it's the wings that they defend themselves with largely.

The Mentalist

2013-09-29, 12:58 AM

Wings actually, it's the wings that they defend themselves with largely.

Both, a goose bit me once. I do not like those damned birds. Well, it's not that I have anything against them, I was five and probably in their space but I have a little bit of a fear of geese to this day.

But yes, Wing Slams and a Small bite attack, claw rakes on a charge.

Edit. Goose claws are probably too small to actually be "damaging" in a D&D sense.

unseenmage

2013-09-29, 01:00 AM

Both, a goose bit me once. I do not like those damned birds. Well, it's not that I have anything against them, I was five and probably in their space but I have a little bit of a fear of geese to this day.

But yes, Wing Slams and a Small bite attack, claw rakes on a charge.

Agreed with both. In reality a creature will defend itself with every tool at it's disposal for the most part.

As my mother used to tell visitors to the farm when they'd ask if -insert herbivore here- would bite, "It's got teeth don't it?!"

The Mentalist

2013-09-29, 01:05 AM

Agreed with both. In reality a creature will defend itself with every tool at it's disposal for the most part.

As my mother used to tell visitors to the farm when they'd ask if -insert herbivore here- would bite, "It's got teeth don't it?!"

Even if it doesn't have teeth it can bite. Babies.

Speaking of which. Were-Babies. Were-Orcs (Were-Orcs seems like a Jekyll and Hyde thing)

Going into things that the template doesn't cover but could be made easily enough Were-Otyugh

gurgleflep

2013-09-29, 01:14 AM

Both, a goose bit me once. I do not like those damned birds. Well, it's not that I have anything against them, I was five and probably in their space but I have a little bit of a fear of geese to this day.

But yes, Wing Slams and a Small bite attack, claw rakes on a charge.

Edit. Goose claws are probably too small to actually be "damaging" in a D&D sense.

I'm in the same boat as you on geese - I was at the zoo at around the same age and they had a little fenced in enclosure... they came up and I tried petting it. In my defense, I was young and wanted to pet everything in the zoo that I could get close to.

Sapreaver

2013-09-29, 02:58 AM

were-mosquitos.. Lots and lots of were-mosquitos... Mosquitos are a problem where I live.

nedz

2013-09-29, 05:29 AM

In a Tropical City
Ogre Were-Rhinoceros
or an
Ogre Were-Hippopotamus

Probably nor RAW legal due to the eating grass thing, but still pretty alarming.

Chronos

2013-09-29, 11:47 AM

Quoth The Mentalist:

Both, a goose bit me once.
Shouldn't that be a gøøse?

SoraWolf7

2013-09-29, 01:12 PM

I think if we're really getting creative here, we need to entertain the idea of were-creatures being studied, captured for either entertainment or imminent death, or traveling as a traveler who doesn't know they're cursed somehow. Then the creature escapes and creates new were-spawn.

Also, a thought I fear, were-dire pistol shrimp. Weres with a natural arm cannon.

Nocharim

2013-09-29, 01:45 PM

A were-carp must be the dreaded hunter of dwarvenkind. And they called my dwarf character mad when he avoided the koi ponds in the park.

Coidzor

2013-09-29, 04:04 PM

Were-Racoons

If you're willing to disregard the size component or use Dire sizes Insects are a good choice, Were Roaches and Flies.

In a more rural environment or a farming community, weresheep horses, goats, all the bitey farm animals. Could also expand out to foxes and possums.

Were-opossums. Were-opossums everywhere. They largely eat detritus and were-rats. XD

Even if it doesn't have teeth it can bite. Babies.

Speaking of which. Were-Babies. Were-Orcs (Were-Orcs seems like a Jekyll and Hyde thing)

Going into things that the template doesn't cover but could be made easily enough Were-Otyugh

Nice.