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TripperdeCleric
2013-10-05, 04:47 PM
I need help tweaking it to be correct and give me what I want. I want a ton of summoning, but I want them to be efficient. I need to pick some banned schools and a few more feats. My DM is also letting me make malconvoker a good prestige summoner rather than evil if I wish.

The books allowed are:
Complete Series (minus champion)
Core
SC
MIC


Human:
#Improved Initiative

Focused Conjurer 1: #Arcane Disciple (Summoning)
#Scribe Scroll

ACF:
#Focused Specialist

ACF:
#Rapid Summoning

Focused Conjurer 2:

Focused Conjurer:3: #Spell Focus (Conjuring)

Master Conjurer 4: #Skill Focus (Spellcraft)

Master Conjurer 5: #Expanded Spellbook

Master Conjurer 6: #Extend Spell
#Greater Spell Focus

Master Conjurer 7: #Minor School Esoterica

Thaumaturgist 8: #Improved Ally

Thaumaturgist 9: #Mobile Spellcasting #Augment Summoning

Malconvoker 10: #Deceptive Summons #Unrestricted Conjuration

Thaumaturgist 11: #Extended Summoning

Thaumaturgist 12: #Please Fill
#Contingent Conjuration

Thaumaturgist 13: #Planar Cohort

Malconvoker 14: #Planar Binding

Malconvoker 15: #Imbued Summoning #Skill Focus (Bluff)

Malconvoker 16: #Deceptive Summons (Fury)

Malconvoker 17: #Fiendish Legion

Malconvoker 18: #Please Fill
#Deceitful Bargaining

Malconvoker 19: #Deceptive summons (Resistance)

Malconvoker 20: #Improved Calling

TripperdeCleric
2013-10-06, 09:47 AM
Bump:


Can I get some help on this?

ngilop
2013-10-06, 03:32 PM
Im confused by what you mean by
'My DM is also letting me make malconvoker a good prestige summoner rather than evil if I wish."

The malconvoker is already good, they just summon evil thing to fight other evil things.


Also you need augment summoning and spell focus conjuration IMO

Id only go into Thaumaturgist AFTER i got to where I needed to be with malconvoker ( usually around the doulbe your summons point malconcoker 5 i think) Becayse having 2 things a spell summoned instead of 1 is a lot more 'effeicient' than after all you get at malcovner 1 the same hint gyou get at thaumatrgist 3. You are going to get more bag for you buck if you finish out malcovker BEFORE going into thaumaturgist for 2 reasons

1 Improved calling nets you 2 more HD for your planar bindings which NOW you can use your thaumatugrist planar cohort to get a 20 HD cohort. not to shabby

2) You can summmong 2 whatevers you want ( as long as they evil) and now the last for ~ twice as long as normal

I cannot stress how much better it is to go Malconvoker before you go into thaumaturgist,

eggynack
2013-10-06, 03:56 PM
You should probably add on ashbound summoning (ECS, 50) because it's sweet.

Edit: Ashbound is apparently SNA only. Rashemi elemental summoning is still good times for everyone though.

TripperdeCleric
2013-10-07, 12:04 AM
I meant, malconvokers summons will be good, and all special class abilities will now reflect good creatures instead of evil.


Ok. Ill look over the class lineup and see exactly what you mean.

Toliudar
2013-10-07, 12:40 AM
There are two challenges with switching the Malconvoker's abilities to focus on good creatures: first, the moral implications of binding good creatures to your service (or else foregoing bindings altogether, but they're among the best elements of a summoning build); and second, the fact that there are just a lot more evil outsiders than there are good.