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CyberThread
2013-10-09, 09:02 PM
So cleric uses rubuke animal, controls something, has it go attack a druid, a druid uses wild empathy and trys to get the animal to stop attacking or change sides.


Is this at all possible, and if it is, how does it work out, as far as mechanics go ?

tyckspoon
2013-10-09, 09:10 PM
Wild Empathy loses hard. It's basically Diplomacy versus mind control; you can't use Diplomacy to stop a Dominated creature from attacking you, and you can't use Wild Empathy to stop something that is Rebuked from doing whatever its controller tells it to.

Chronos
2013-10-09, 09:31 PM
Yeah, Wild Empathy makes the animal your friend, but Rebuke, like Dominate, can make a thing attack its friends.

Tar Palantir
2013-10-09, 09:35 PM
And Rebuke doesn't even allow a save for orders against one's nature or suicidal orders like Dominate. If you used Dominate to make someone attack their friends, they'd probably get a new save. Not so with Rebuke.

Lord Haart
2013-10-10, 03:55 AM
By the way, is there Rebuke Humanoid or something anywhere in books?

Feytalist
2013-10-10, 04:13 AM
Not to mention a use of wild empathy generally takes a minute "under normal conditions". All the while the commanded animal is gnawing away at your face.

Milo v3
2013-10-10, 06:37 AM
By the way, is there Rebuke Humanoid or something anywhere in books?

Mystic of d20 Modern has it at 8th level. Not 3.5e, but close.