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GutterFace
2013-10-18, 09:37 PM
what would be the best way (race,class) to be able to acquire Mindsight as the feat for your character?

i know it requires telepathy, but how does one get to that point, besides psionics or magic?

Waker
2013-10-18, 09:42 PM
Mindbender is probably the easiest.

Khatoblepas
2013-10-18, 09:45 PM
Generally you have a one level dip in Mindbender, to give you Telepathy out to 100ft.

It requires Charm Person, but that can be gotten quite easily.

(For example, a Kobold can do the Draconic Rite of Passage to gain Charm Person as an SLA 1/day, if you want to do it minimally magicwise.)

Waker
2013-10-18, 09:53 PM
Generally you have a one level dip in Mindbender, to give you Telepathy out to 100ft.

It requires Charm Person, but that can be gotten quite easily.

(For example, a Kobold can do the Draconic Rite of Passage to gain Charm Person as an SLA 1/day, if you want to do it minimally magicwise.)
I think one of the easiest ways to get Charm Person with the minimum of spellcasting investment is to take the Aberrant Dragonmark feat and chose Charm Person as your SLA.
Though this of course requires playing in an Eberron setting or having a permissive DM.

Red Fel
2013-10-18, 09:53 PM
If you play a Hellbred with Spirit aspect, you can get Telepathy at 15 HD.

If you play a Totemist, you can bind the Shedu Crown soulmeld to your Crown chakra, which grants you Telepathy in addition to its base effect. You can get access to the Crown chakra at Totemist 5, or by taking a feat. Alternatively, you can take two feats (Shape Soulmeld: Shedu Crown and Open Least Chakra: Crown). The latter feat also gives you +1 to Will saves, although it requires a 6th-level character.

Emperor Tippy
2013-10-18, 09:56 PM
Mindbender 1 is the most generally applicable.

Psion (Telepath) 5 is the lowest ECL method that is generally applicable.

Skin of Proteus + Assume Supernatural Ability and a Spellweaver form gets you the best range (1,000 miles)

Doc_Maynot
2013-10-18, 10:04 PM
Couldn't it be argued Dvati can get it?

Red Fel
2013-10-18, 10:12 PM
Couldn't it be argued Dvati can get it?

I think that's a bit of a stretch. It's not telepathy if you're just talking to yourself.

Doc_Maynot
2013-10-18, 10:13 PM
But it IS telepathically, at unlimited range even. :smallbiggrin:

Emperor Tippy
2013-10-18, 10:15 PM
But it IS telepathically, at unlimited range even. :smallbiggrin:

Telepathy is a rules defined term. Unless you have the Telepathy ability you can't take Mindsight.