Prestige classes with too high of requirements. [Archive]

Devronq

2013-10-22, 11:00 PM

So this a two part question, first part where are all the epic PRC located? I know there are some in the Epic players handbook obviously and there are some in one of the dragon books but i beleive they are all dragon only requirements, are their others?
Second part what PRC aren't very good as written but could be fixed simply by lowering the requirements. Ive already made a change to legendary dreadnaught he seems fair as a lv.9 prc not as an epic one. Any other classes you feel are like this?

Snowbluff

2013-10-22, 11:20 PM

Fochlucan Lyrist (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20050107a&page=2) wants you to have like 3 base classes. :smalltongue:

Captnq

2013-10-22, 11:23 PM

Well, let me know if this helps.

Big List of every Spellcasting Base+PrC Class (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=5044.msg73050#msg73050).

Should help you to compare what they give you. I even listed the estimated starting level before you can take a PrC.

Forrestfire

2013-10-22, 11:23 PM

Fochlucan Lyrist (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20050107a&page=2) wants you to have like 3 base classes. :smalltongue:

Yeah, it's trying to emulate the AD&D druid I think?

Chronos

2013-10-22, 11:32 PM

Actually more like the AD&D (1st edition) bard.

Sith_Happens

2013-10-23, 12:53 AM

The Magelord (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20050202a&page=2) PrC is pretty cool, but impossible (or at least nearly so) to finish pre-epic.

Story

2013-10-23, 12:59 AM

These things would be slightly more reasonable if Divine Oracle qualified. But nooooo, it has to grant super-evasion instead.

Forrestfire

2013-10-23, 02:07 AM

Actually more like the AD&D (1st edition) bard.

Right, that. Could not remember which of them was the ridiculous prestige classes.

Xerlith

2013-10-23, 03:08 AM

The Bladesinger. Big bunch of requirements for a sub-par class.
Shame, because the fluff is nice...

Vaz

2013-10-23, 04:51 AM

Verdant Lord requires an 8th level spell to qualify. Hiwever that is due to 3.0 to 3.5 messing around with spell names.

AntiTrust

2013-10-23, 10:15 AM

Verdant Lord requires an 8th level spell to qualify. Hiwever that is due to 3.0 to 3.5 messing around with spell names.

what level was it supposed to be?

Vaz

2013-10-23, 10:18 AM

It required the character be able to cast Control Plants (originally a 5th level spell), which is now an 8th level spell, so ECL16 entry, rather than ECL11.

The stupid thing is, Command Plants was the 8th level spell, and in the 3.5 reshuffle, Control Plants and Command Plants simply changed name with each other; the 3.5 Control Plants has the effect of the 3.0 Command Plants and vice versa.

AntiTrust

2013-10-23, 11:50 AM

It required the character be able to cast Control Plants (originally a 5th level spell), which is now an 8th level spell, so ECL16 entry, rather than ECL11.

The stupid thing is, Command Plants was the 8th level spell, and in the 3.5 reshuffle, Control Plants and Command Plants simply changed name with each other; the 3.5 Control Plants has the effect of the 3.0 Command Plants and vice versa.

Hmm, I'll have to note that in my book, it sounds more like a bureaucratic oversight than intentional.