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Clistenes
2013-10-24, 05:54 AM
I have some doubt about how it works.


Spontaneous Casting: A deity of rank 1 or higher who has levels in a divine spellcasting class can spontaneously cast any spell it can grant. This power works like a cleric’s ability to spontaneously cast cure spells (see the cleric section in Chapter 3 of the Player’s Handbook), except that it applies to any spell the deity can grant. A deity has even more flexibility regarding its domains, as described in the next section.

OK, so a deity who has levels of Paladin, Ranger, Druid, Cleric or something similar can spontaneously convert any prepared spell into any other spell it can grant to his followers, which always includes all Ranger and Cleric spells, and also Druid and Paladin spells, if it has levels in that classes.

But, what about metamagic feats? Can a deity apply metamagic feats to its spontanously cast spells, as a full-round action, like sorcerers do?
Or can it just apply the metamagic without augmenting the casting time, just burning a spell slot of the proper level?

I guess they can apply metamagic feats to spontaneously converted spells, since this ability is compared to the spontaneous conversion into cure spells, and:


Spontaneous Casting and Metamagic Feats
A cleric spontaneously casting a cure or inflict spell can cast a metamagic version of it instead. Extra time is also required in this case. Casting a 1-action metamagic spell spontaneously is a full-round action, and a spell with a longer casting time takes an extra full-round action to cast.

What about the Quicken Metamagic feat? I guess a deity can't apply it to a spontaneously converted spell, since:


Quicken Spell [Metamagic]

Benefit: Casting a quickened spell is an swift action. You can perform another action, even casting another spell, in the same round as you cast a quickened spell. You may cast only one quickened spell per round. A spell whose casting time is more than 1 full round action cannot be quickened. A quickened spell uses up a spell slot four levels higher than the spell’s actual level. Casting a quickened spell doesn’t provoke an attack of opportunity.

Special: This feat can’t be applied to any spell cast spontaneously (including sorcerer spells, bard spells, and cleric or druid spells cast spontaneously), since applying a metamagic feat to a spontaneously cast spell automatically increases the casting time to a full-round action.

But, what about Divine Metamagic (Quicken)? Could a deity use Divine Metamagic to Quicken a spontaneously converted spell?

And what about Automatic Metamagic?:


Automatic Metamagic: The deity can apply a particular metamagic feat to spells it can cast or to spell-like abilities it knows with no spell slot adjustment.
Prerequisite: Spellcaster level 1st.
Benefit: The deity chooses one metamagic feat. As a free action, the deity can apply the selected feat to the spells from any one spellcasting class the deity has or to its spell-like abilities. A spell altered by the use of this ability does not use up a higher-level slot.
Notes: The deity must obey all the limitations normally associated with the metamagic feat. For example, a deity using Automatic Metamagic (quicken wizard spells) could cast only one quickened wizard spell each round.
Any metamagic feat selected cannot have a level requirement of 21st or higher. Feats that depend on making the spell’s level higher, such as Heighten Spell, do not work with this ability.
A deity can have this ability multiple times, choosing a metamagic feat and either a spellcasting class or spell-like abilities to which the ability will apply each time.
Suggested Portfolio Elements: Knowledge, magic.

It says nothing about augmenting the casting time of spontaneously cast spells, but it doesn't say that you don't have to augment it either, so, what?

How do you people think should this work?

TuggyNE
2013-10-24, 06:39 AM
I think you've correctly answered all your own questions, really. Neither DMM nor Automatic will work if the deity uses them to apply Quicken alone, but both could work if the deity uses them to apply all the other metamagic.

Clistenes
2013-10-24, 08:31 AM
But, if the deity took the Rapid Metamagic feat from Complete Mage, it could apply both Divine Metamagic (Quicken) and Automatic Metamagic (Quicken) to spontaneoulsy cast spells, couldn't it?

Psyren
2013-10-24, 08:49 AM
Yes, and in fact, that's precisely what Rapid Spell is for - to let you quicken spontaneous spells.