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IronFist
2013-10-27, 06:59 AM
Siege engines (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/other-rules/siege-engines) are badass. Cannons are very badass. Your standard adventurer, however, can't really use a cannon for much.

However:
In most cases, a Large or larger creature can use a siege firearm as a two-handed firearm, but the creature takes a –4 penalty for using it this way because of its awkwardness.

Enter the half-giant (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/psionics-unleashed/races/half-giant)'s Powerful Build.

Oh, the damage is good, 6d6 but the really good thing is range. 100ft and since it counts as a firearm for you, it targets touch AC. Before errata, you could use Titan Mauler to reduce your to-hit penalties, but now you just have to accept it. There is no problem to reload - you consider it a two-handed firearm, just take Rapid Reload. You won't be making any iteratives, so how about Vital Strike (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/vital-strike-combat---final)? Each shot costs 25 GP, but if you have Gunsmith you can make the cannonballs yourself for half the price, so that's about as expensive as a charge on a 1st level wand.

At level 6, you can do this with any full bab class (I suggest Fighter for the bonuses to hit; you can convert those into Deadly Aim). 12d6 damage vs touch AC at a range of 100ft.

I kinda like it. :smallamused:

Fouredged Sword
2013-10-27, 07:15 AM
Nonono... What you want to do is make a Siege Mage.

First, you take a hit to BAB, but you fire through your arcane bond so you don't suffer teh -4 to hit. That means you are better at shooting than the full bab class until 8th level.

Next you can get +spell level to hit and 3X spell level to damage by spending a spell slot.

Blood Money + Fabricate means always having cannon balls and powder.

Finally, you can load your cannon with unseen servants.

IronFist
2013-10-27, 07:57 AM
Nonono... What you want to do is make a Siege Mage.
Never even considered it, probably because everyone keeps saying it's so bad. Never checked it.


First, you take a hit to BAB, but you fire through your arcane bond so you don't suffer teh -4 to hit. That means you are better at shooting than the full bab class until 8th level.
Both Gunslinger and Fighter get static modifiers, so it's not as clean and cut, but I understand your reasoning.


Next you can get +spell level to hit and 3X spell level to damage by spending a spell slot.
But you delay Vital Strike, which adds a lot more damage than that.


Blood Money + Fabricate means always having cannon balls and powder.
But they are already so cheap!


Finally, you can load your cannon with unseen servants.
Not necessary, since it works as a two-handed firearm.