Average HP for a 4th level wizard?

[RPGaddict28]

My wizard's HP is currently 22, and I noticed that I have more HP than one of my rogue, I was just wondering if this is common, or am I a rarity. Also, for what may augment my HP, I have +1 con, a +1 HP for Dragontouched, and a +2 belt of Con.

[Lightlawbliss]

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and is the +1 con including the belt?

edit: wait... 22? 4d4 is a max of 16, +1 con gives +4 hp at 4 hd. even with first HD auto max, you are rolling well to get 22 hp (pre buffs) as a 4th lvl wizard.

[eggynack]

Rogues only have d6's for HD, so that's just +1 HP over a wizard per HD, plus an extra HP if you max out the first HD. As for average HP, you should have 4 HP off the first HD, then about 7.5 from the other three, for a total of 11.5. Then you get 8 more from constitution, and +1 for dragontouched, so you average out at 20.5. Thus, you're a little above average, but not by all that much.

[ArcturusV]

Eh. You have about average HP for your wizard at level 4. Your rogue probably got shafted on the rolls or something. As they should have about an average of:

+2 from Con per level, for 8 total. 6 on first level. 3, 4, 3, for the additional levels, for only 24 HP.

A more "normal" Wizard without your specials (Probably would have an Headband of Intellect over a Belt of Con, no Dragontouched), would be closer to 8 from Con, 4 on first level, 2, 3, 2, for your other levels. Total of 19 HP.

So you're a bit tougher than an "Average" wizard. But not as tough as someone who's more optimized who probably has the +2 Con, plus Faerie Mysteries Initiate, which would have 8 from Con, 20 from FMI, 4 from first level, 2, 3, 2 for additional levels, for a total of 39 HP.

[Flickerdart]

On the other hand, a full 30% of wizards with 10 Constitution will have between 7 and 10 hit points at your level. So, you know, it could be much much worse!

[lsfreak]

On the other hand, a full 30% of wizards with 10 Constitution will have between 7 and 10 hit points at your level.

No, I'm pretty sure the wizards dumb enough to do that have no hit points, because they were butchered by a stray arrow three levels ago :smallwink:

Average would put the wizard at 20 and the rogue at 25 at 4th level, assuming 14 Con which is about the lowest I'd go on either in a normal game. Throwing on Dragontouched, I'd consider average to be 21, so you're not really off. The rogue is definitely under.

[Spore]

My wizard's HP is currently 22, and I noticed that I have more HP than one of my rogue, I was just wondering if this is common, or am I a rarity. Also, for what may augment my HP, I have +1 con, a +1 HP for Dragontouched, and a +2 belt of Con.

Average of 4d4+12 = 4+2+3+2+12 = 23 HP. You're 1 HP short of average.


No, I'm pretty sure the wizards dumb enough to do that have no hit points, because they were butchered by a stray arrow three levels ago

Your PF sorcerer (d6, but Con 8) has survived until 7 when he rebuilt him. Bluff rolls onto "I didn't know where these magics are coming from" fooled our group until 3rd level.

[eggynack]

Average of 4d4+12 = 4+2+3+2+12 = 23 HP. You're 1 HP short of average.
The +1 HP from dragontouched actually isn't a +1 to con mod, so the +12 should rightly be a +9. Thus, 2.5 HP above average.

[Flickerdart]

No, I'm pretty sure the wizards dumb enough to do that have no hit points, because they were butchered by a stray arrow three levels ago :smallwink:
A proper wizard doesn't care whether he has 1 or 100 hit points, because he never gets hit. :smallwink:

[Zanos]

So you're a bit tougher than an "Average" wizard. But not as tough as someone who's more optimized who probably has the +2 Con, plus Faerie Mysteries Initiate, which would have 8 from Con, 20 from FMI, 4 from first level, 2, 3, 2 for additional levels, for a total of 39 HP.
FMI replaces constitution with intelligence, you don't get both. To truly become a mage tank, take FMI, an int boosting race, int gear, and then become undead for a d12 hit die while still mainting your massive health bonus from FMI.

A necropolitian gray elf wizard with FMI has 51.5 hp on average at level 4.