Help with feats?

[HeyThereImBear]

I'm in need of 5 bonus fighter feats that would be beneficial to a spell casting, two-weapon fighter.

Any advice?

[gorfnab]

Books available, class levels/build, what kind of spells? More information would help us help you with the feats your looking for.

[The Trickster]

On the top of my head;

Improved Initiative
Knowledge Devotion
Minor Shapeshift
Arcane Strike

This is assuming you are building a gish. Without a build, its a little hars to say.

[HeyThereImBear]

Books available, class levels/build, what kind of spells? More information would help us help you with the feats your looking for.

Any and everything. The character is mainly 3rd party materials, so any semi-legit source would probably be acceptable.


On the top of my head;

Improved Initiative
Knowledge Devotion
Minor Shapeshift
Arcane Strike

This is assuming you are building a gish. Without a build, its a little hars to say.


I can send you the build, but it's big and long and complicated, and people have already insulted the sheer cheese of it, so I guess I'm kind of hesitant.

[AzureKnight]

With 2 weapon fighting may want a still spel feat so you dont have to open a hand to cast.

[Terazul]

With 2 weapon fighting may want a still spel feat so you dont have to open a hand to cast.

Yeah I'd strongly suggest Somatic Weaponry and Eschew Materials if you don't have a way to get around that already. Otherwise you can't actually cast spells that have somatic or material components since you don't have a free hand. An unlike wielding a single two-hander, you don't have the luxury of simply removing your hand from it.

...Though if you were using Gloves of the Master Strategist/of Storing, you could store a weapon as a free action, cast using the hand, then bring it back out. I'd suggest that, since those two feats up there you need aren't even Fighter feats.

[HeyThereImBear]

Yeah I'd strongly suggest Somatic Weaponry and Eschew Materials if you don't have a way to get around that already. Otherwise you can't actually cast spells that have somatic or material components since you don't have a free hand. An unlike wielding a single two-hander, you don't have the luxury of simply removing your hand from it.

...Though if you were using Gloves of the Master Strategist/of Storing, you could store a weapon as a free action, cast using the hand, then bring it back out. I'd suggest that, since those two feats up there you need aren't even Fighter feats.

I could probably give her a featherweight fullblade...

EDIT: Also, Morde pony doe

[Pickford]

I'm in need of 5 bonus fighter feats that would be beneficial to a spell casting, two-weapon fighter.

Any advice?

Eschew materials isn't a Fighter Bonus Feat.

Fighter Bonus Feats that might be useful for either TWF or Spellcasting:
TWF, Imp. TWF, Gr. TWF (require dex, which is good for defense)
TWDef, Imp. TWDef, Gr. TWDef
Improved Initiative
Weapon Finesse (since dex is needed for the TWF stuff, you can dump str more easily)
Combat Reflexes (also benefits from dex)

Non-bonus feats:
Arcane Strike, Combat Casting, Eschew Materials, Practiced Spellcaster (helpful if you're a gish), Battle Caster (helpful if you wear armor), Smiting Spell

Battlecaster Offense and Defense are also good, though not fighter bonus feats.

[Telonius]

Martial Study, Martial Stance, repeat as necessary? :smallbiggrin:

[HeyThereImBear]

Martial Study, Martial Stance, repeat as necessary? :smallbiggrin:

I actually have martial maneuvers equiv to a swordsage of my HD (in this case, 15).

[Telonius]

You could get EWP: Gnome Quickrazor, on your way to Spellrazor (which unfortunately isn't a fighter bonus feat).

[HeyThereImBear]

You could get EWP: Gnome Quickrazor, on your way to Spellrazor (which unfortunately isn't a fighter bonus feat).

Such a small weapon. Almost seems better to dip into spellsword so I can do it with my huge+ weapons. Those seem a bit more foreboding and dangerous.

[Flickerdart]

Such a small weapon. Almost seems better to dip into spellsword so I can do it with my huge+ weapons. Those seem a bit more foreboding and dangerous.
You can easily get a Colossal Quickrazor if you've the means to wield it.

[Urpriest]

What's your primary damage source/combat trick?

[HeyThereImBear]

What's your primary damage source/combat trick?

Luring things withing my antimagic field and then blasting or 'porting close and ripping them to shreds. The first build used a scythe, and the second used elven courtblades. The gnome quickrazor seems like it'd really be useful, however.

[Urpriest]

Luring things withing my antimagic field and then blasting or 'porting close and ripping them to shreds. The first build used a scythe, and the second used elven courtblades. The gnome quickrazor seems like it'd really be useful, however.

So the Scythes and Elven Courtblades are both two-handed weapons. The build you're talking about in the OP uses two weapons, unless I'm misreading. What does that build use? Alternatively, if you haven't chosen a particular weapon for it, what trick does it use to get extra damage (essentially, what made you choose TWF, since people choose TWF when they have a source of extra damage they want to multiply)?

[HeyThereImBear]

So the Scythes and Elven Courtblades are both two-handed weapons. The build you're talking about in the OP uses two weapons, unless I'm misreading. What does that build use? Alternatively, if you haven't chosen a particular weapon for it, what trick does it use to get extra damage (essentially, what made you choose TWF, since people choose TWF when they have a source of extra damage they want to multiply)?


They were actually all TWF, just with enchanted weapons/ Oversized TWF.

With the strength and dex this character's slinging around, the weapons wielded are merely a matter of preference.

[Urpriest]

They were actually all TWF, just with enchanted weapons/ Oversized TWF.

With the strength and dex this character's slinging around, the weapons wielded are merely a matter of preference.

I don't know of any enchantments that let you wield two-handers in one hand, even with Oversized TWF.

Anyway, is your Str high enough for you not to need other sources of bonus damage to compete with a two-hander? Is your accuracy after those Oversized TWF penalties high enough that you don't have difficulty landing your attacks?

In general, those are the starting points. If your build already covers that, then feats can be more utility-focused in nature.

Out of curiosity, what non-Fighter class is giving you five fighter bonus feats?

[Pickford]

Urpriest:

Out of curiosity, what non-Fighter class is giving you five fighter bonus feats?

Offhand...Wizard Variant from Unearthed Arcana (page 59);

Given that he said it's a TWF Fighter...maybe he's thinking of doing some Fighter levels?

[Raezeman]

if the two-weapons you are wielding are the same (can use oversized two-weapon fighting for this in case it's not a light weapon), you can consider the good old:
weapon focus
weapon specialisation
melee weapon mastery
greater weapon focus
greater weapon specialisation
weapon supremacy
which have all requirements of bab or fighter level, but can all be chosen as fighter bonus feats.

[Ortesk]

Anyway, is your Str high enough for you not to need other sources of bonus damage to compete with a two-hander? Is your accuracy after those Oversized TWF penalties high enough that you don't have difficulty landing your attacks?


His strength is 1300 or so, i know the build out

[Pickford]

if the two-weapons you are wielding are the same (can use oversized two-weapon fighting for this in case it's not a light weapon), you can consider the good old:
weapon focus
weapon specialisation
melee weapon mastery
greater weapon focus
greater weapon specialisation
weapon supremacy
which have all requirements of bab or fighter level, but can all be chosen as fighter bonus feats.

Which require you to meet the requirements.

[HeyThereImBear]

Urpriest:


Offhand...Wizard Variant from Unearthed Arcana (page 59);

Given that he said it's a TWF Fighter...maybe he's thinking of doing some Fighter levels?

Battle angel racial features, as bred in through VA Amalgem.

Trust me, it's better we don't get into the "why" of the character.

[HeyThereImBear]

I don't know of any enchantments that let you wield two-handers in one hand, even with Oversized TWF.

Anyway, is your Str high enough for you not to need other sources of bonus damage to compete with a two-hander? Is your accuracy after those Oversized TWF penalties high enough that you don't have difficulty landing your attacks?

In general, those are the starting points. If your build already covers that, then feats can be more utility-focused in nature.

Out of curiosity, what non-Fighter class is giving you five fighter bonus feats?

"Balanced" weapon enhancement, but I'll have to find the source.

Allows you to wield a weapon as if it was 1 size category smaller. So a medium 2-h weapon counts as a small 2h weapon, and lets me use it 1 handed (i.e., a large creature 1-handing a medium greatsword)

The str of the creature (as previously mentioned) is just short of 1300, so don't worry about the damage, that's taken care of. The bonus I get to hit far outweighs any penalty that could be imposed at the character's current level.

And the feats come from the creature "Battle angel", which was VA amalgam-ed in.