magic item creation (pathfinder)

[Yogibear41]

so quick question, relevant quote from pathfinder srd:

"Note that all items have prerequisites in their descriptions. These prerequisites must be met for the item to be created. Most of the time, they take the form of spells that must be known by the item's creator (although access through another magic item or spellcaster is allowed). The DC to create a magic item increases by 5 for each prerequisite the caster does not meet. The only exception to this is the requisite item creation feat, which is mandatory. In addition, you cannot create potions, spell-trigger, or spell-completion magic items without meeting its prerequisites"

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items#TOC-Magic-Item-Creation (source)

Does this mean that a wizard could make a ring or protection or amulet of barkskin even though he doesn't know the spell/is not capable of casting it? and just has to increase the spellcraft dc by 5?

Also is one allowed to take 10 on the spellcraft roles to create an item?

[gartius]

a) yes
b)yes

you can also do the same thing to the caster level-i need a caster lvl of 11 to create said item, i dont have said caster lvl, oh well dc increases by 5

you can also speed up crafting as well by adding 5 to the dc

[Yogibear41]

For something like http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/a-b/amulet-of-natural-armor is the caster level always set at 5 for the spellcraft DC or does it use the spellcasters DC so 3 for +1 6 for +2 9 for +3 and so on?

[Keneth]

Caster level is always 5th, unless you intentionally choose to increase it.

[Psyren]

The only time you need the spell to create an magic item is if you're making a spell-trigger item, spell-completion item, or potion. Everything else, from wondrous items to rings to weapons and armor, you can skip the spell requirement with the +5 DC boost.

[Pex]

Caster level is not a prerequisite. The caster level printed is the typical caster level of an item found in treasure hoards. Each item has a blurb that tells you what the prerequisites are. For most items you won't find any reference to caster level there. When caster level is mentioned it's because the item provides a +# bonus and how high you can make the +# is dependent on caster level. Other times the +# is just a matter of GP cost.

You can make items of a lower caster level than what's printed, aside from minimums of +#'s for those specific cases. There is no increase to Spellcraft DC. This does not affect the cost of the item, but it will affect its vulnerability to Dispel Magic.

However, technically speaking, the gp cost to craft items is listed as part of the prerequisites. That means you could make a magic item for free for only +5 Spellcraft DC. That is highly probable not RAI. Prerequisites are highly probable RAI meant to mean the listed spells, feats needed, and in a few cases specific caster type.

[Lord Vukodlak]

However, technically speaking, the gp cost to craft items is listed as part of the prerequisites. That means you could make a magic item for free for only +5 Spellcraft DC. That is highly probable not RAI. Prerequisites are highly probable RAI meant to mean the listed spells, feats needed, and in a few cases specific caster type.

There is no technically speaking Cost is not a prerequisite its listed after the prerequisites.

[Corlindale]

Just remember that it's +5 for each prerequisite you don't have, so it can quickly add up if you try to craft something more complex. It can hurt quite a bit of you craft with a spontaneous caster, who can't always afford to know the spells (and whose spellcraft is worse because he usually isn't Int-based).

[avr]

There are a couple of items for which caster level is a defined prereq - armor/weapons of spell storing for instance - but even that can be ignored with a +5 to the DC.

There are a bunch of ways to boost your skill check which will often make a +5 DC a non-issue.