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Crake
2013-11-25, 06:05 AM
So if I have a goblin (CR1/3) and I give it a +1 CR template, what does the resultant CR become? I remember reading that if you were to follow a linear scale of CR, CR1/2 becomes essentially CR 0, CR1/3 becomes CR -1, CR1/4 becomes CR -2, so following that logic, CR1/3 (-1) would become CR 1/2 (0)?

I might be completely wrong though, it might instead go up to CR1+1/3, but I have no idea how to calculate xp for something like that
Spore
2013-11-25, 06:08 AM
I think CR 1 is okay. Perhaps it is not mentioned because CR 1,333 = 1 because fractions are always rounded down.
hymer
2013-11-25, 06:45 AM
Since you're presumeable making this calculation for XP purposes, maybe you should just make it what seems most right to you? My initial instinct is the same as yours, though. 1/3 +1 becomes ½.
Maginomicon
2013-11-25, 08:05 AM
I always assumed a +1 CR template improves CR by one "step". For CR 1+ that always means one more integer, but for lower than CR 1 it means it's improved by one step up. For example, a CR 1/4 creature that gains a +1 CR template (assuming it qualifies as most templates have set minimum CRs or limiters) becomes a CR 1/3 creature. Realize that a CR 1/4 creature (such as a rat or raven) still isn't going to be worth a CR 1 encounter even if you put a +2 CR template on it. It's still a rat.
Cicciograna
2013-11-25, 08:12 AM
I always assumed a +1 CR template improves CR by one "step". For CR 1+ that always means one more integer, but for lower than CR 1 it means it's improved by one step up. For example, a CR 1/4 creature that gains a +1 CR template (assuming it qualifies as most templates have set minimum CRs or limiters) becomes a CR 1/3 creature. Realize that a CR 1/4 creature (such as a rat or raven) still isn't going to be worth a CR 1 encounter even if you put a +2 CR template on it. It's still a rat.

Things can escalate quickly (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5057178&postcount=24) :smallsmile:
Maginomicon
2013-11-25, 08:16 AM
Things can escalate quickly (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5057178&postcount=24) :smallsmile:

Well yeah, because at that point you've added enough steps for it to reach CR 1 (and then go further). Having a "it's a rat" penalty to CR makes sense regardless of how many templates you put on it.