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shaka gl
2007-01-12, 08:13 PM
How much would you say it should cost an amulet that gives a Cleric (or Druid for that matter) 1 extra spell/day of levels 1, 2 and 3?

And if it gives 2 extra spells/day of the same levels?

Thanks!

Jack Mann
2007-01-12, 08:59 PM
Hmm. Something like the Rings of Wizardry, but not quite. I'd need to think on it. My first instinct is to price it essentially as a Ring of Wizardry, with the +1 spell per level at 20,000 and the +2 at 40,000. I wouldn't go higher than that, though, because these items become much more useful with each increase. Of course, this also depends on the item taking up a slot.

Douglas
2007-01-12, 09:33 PM
I'd base it on Pearls of Power (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#pearlofPower). The Pearl is a slotless item, so changing it into an amulet divides the cost in half. For one slot of each level 1-3, it would cost 3*3*500 + 2*2*500*1.5 + 1*1*500*1.5 = 8250. Two slots of each level would cost 18750.

adanedhel9
2007-01-12, 10:24 PM
Warning: I immediately had several different thoughts on how to price this, so some of this post is me thinking out loud. Err, on the keyboard. Whatever.

Basing it off of pearls of power might not be the best idea. They take a standard action to activate, plus they can only cast spells that you've prepared and already cast (I assume the amulet in question allows the cleric/druid to prepare extra spells per day). So, it has to cost more than 8250.

Note that an amulet which allows you to cast a particular first, second, and third divine spell per day would cost 1*1*2000*1.5*0.2 + 2*3*2000*1.5*0.2 + 3*5*2000*1.5*0.2 = 600 + 3600 + 9000 = 13200. This isn't quite right, since such an item would allow anyone to use the spells, the user can't choose the spells to use, and the caster level is fixed at minimum. So this item should cost more than 13200.

Also note that a periapt of wisdom +6 can give you all the benefits of this item, plus a lot more. That item costs 36000, so it has be less than that.

Your item gives approximately one-fifth the benefit of a ring of wizardry I, one-fifth the benefit of a ring of wizardry II, and one-fifth the benefit of a ring of wizardry III. The price of that would be around 20000*0.2*1.5 + 40000*0.2*1.5 + 70000*0.2 = 6000 + 12000 + 140000 = 32000. That might be a bit high, though, since arcane spells are generally more powerful than divine spells.

Given all these numbers, I would say that 28000 would be about right for the one extra spell; the second version would cost twice as much, or around 56000.

shaka gl
2007-01-12, 11:05 PM
Damm, thats expensive! Any ideas on how to lower the prices and still have something cool?

Fizban
2007-01-13, 01:38 AM
If the spells were powers... I grants 5pp for 20,000, II grants 15 for 40,000, and III grants 25 for 70,000. So, maybe 4,500 per point's worth.

Spell levels granted: I grants 5 for 20k, II grants 10 for 40k, and III grants 15 for 70k. So maybe 4,500 per level's worth.

Comparing to pearls of power: the ring I costs 4 times as much as 5 pearls, II costs twice as much as the pearls, and III costs between 1 and 2 times the pearls. No convienient multiplier there.

Assuming the caster started with 10 in his casting ability, a periapt of wisdom +6 would give +1 spell per day for 1st through 3rd.

The versatile spellcaster feat allows a sorcerer to use two spell slots of the same level to cast a spell one level higher.

All these taken into consideration, I say it costs 24,000gp. It's inferior to the ring of wizardry II (5 lv2 slots is definately worth more than a lv3), but it's better than a ring I. 24,000 looks like a nice number to use.

(Keep in mind when comparing to pearls of power, the pearls can be used later in the day when you know what you need back. Unless you just decide to prepare 2 of everything, the ring won't do that. Obviously they work best in combination, with the ring adding more spells to choose from when using the pearl, but that's not the point here)

As for the 2 spells version, maybe an extra 150%, as if you had added the same function again. As always spell slot adding items should never stack with each other, cause that would be bad.

Morty
2007-01-13, 05:08 AM
Hm. Since that thread is about custom extra-spell items, I think I'll ask that question here:
how much would cost an amulet giving me one extra 2nd level spell/day? The amulet my GM gave my 2nd(now 3rd) levle character, BTW.

Amiria
2007-01-13, 05:25 AM
Hm. Since that thread is about custom extra-spell items, I think I'll ask that question here:
how much would cost an amulet giving me one extra 2nd level spell/day? The amulet my GM gave my 2nd(now 3rd) levle character, BTW.

I would work on that with the Ring of Wizardry as the basis. It is mainly designed for sorcerers (maximum spell base = 6) and wizards (maximum spell base = 4). So the average is 5. What you want is only one extra spell per day, so divide the cost of a Ring of Wizadry II (40.000 gp) by 5. That's 8.000 gp.

Too expensive for a 3rd level character. A Pearl of Power II costs only half as much but it doesn't give you an extra spell slot, just the ability to regain a spell that you already cast that day.

Morty
2007-01-13, 07:06 AM
I would work on that with the Ring of Wizardry as the basis. It is mainly designed for sorcerers (maximum spell base = 6) and wizards (maximum spell base = 4). So the average is 5. What you want is only one extra spell per day, so divide the cost of a Ring of Wizadry II (40.000 gp) by 5. That's 8.000 gp.

Too expensive for a 3rd level character. A Pearl of Power II costs only half as much but it doesn't give you an extra spell slot, just the ability to regain a spell that you already cast that day.

Thanks. Cost isn't much of a problem, my DM totally doesn't care about WBL, he already made us find 2,100 wort sword. We couldn't use it, though.