Grams
2013-11-30, 02:45 AM
I was tasked to build a fourth level character for a 3.5 UnderMt campaign. After a few hours of hatching away at the character sheet, he seems to be absurdly overpowered.(especially the companion) I feel like I'm missing something important or perhaps not and maybe suggestions on what to hamper.
Overview/idea: He's a Goliath Druid with an Ape companion. They both wield huge morningstars (2hands) and both take advantage of long range companion Share Spell with Shillelagh/Brambles spells.
Here's the stats.
4th level Goliath Druid Variant
Str 18 (+2 race)
Dex 14 (-2 race)
Con 18 (+2 race)
Int 15
Wis 18 (+1 level 4)
Cha 13
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HP: 38
AC: 18
F:8 - R:2 - W:8
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Feats: 1 Natural bond (offset ape -3), 3 Companion Spellbound (30ft buffs)
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Weapon: Huge Morningstar (2hands) mw
+8hit / 3d6+6
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Animal Companion: Ape (6 HD)
Str 23
Dex 16
Con 14
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AC 23
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Feats: 1 Light Armor Proficiency, 3 Simple weapon Proficiency, 6 Imp Toughness
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Weapon: Huge Morningstar (2hands) mw
+11 hit / 3d6+9
Armor: Dragonhide Chainshirt
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Just at face value, my ape is a better fighter than the fighter PC we have by a large margin by #'s alone. And vastly better than myself at melee aswell, though not too shabby. AC is a tad low...
The **** really hits the fan when I Share Spell either/both Shillelagh and Brambles, as my ape wields a huge morningstar as well.
The weapon damage we can dish out buffed with both spells @ level 4 is:
(Flanking)
Me: +12 hit / 6d6+11
Ape: +15 hit / 6d6+14
Total: 12d6+25 - I've ran this through a die roller and the average is in the low 100's. Every round. Just one combo hit would be enough to kill any CR creature in our party levels level range.
I know it's not a pun-pun or other stupid powerful optimize builds, but this still seems a bit absurd. Especially since I'm only accounting just raw damage. Not other spells/wildshape/nature spell/powerful wildshape grappling/magic items, ect.
Seeing as how I like this character for RP reasons, that I did not go into, I'd hate to see him get Greater Teleported into orbit after the first encounter.
I'm defiantly not the most versed player... and this is my first druid. However, I have been playing d&d every week for two years. And I have built my fair share of characters and check every bit of math via books/erratas. The only thing that seems to be a bit hazy are the animal companion feats. The PH says they gain feats per HD just like a player would though...
Anyway, I know druids are Tier 1. Is this just overwhelming on paper? Have I screwed up somethings on my synergies? I just don't want to be leagues above the other PC's and/or focus fired by my DM. Will the +1 LA from Goliath level me out later?
Overview/idea: He's a Goliath Druid with an Ape companion. They both wield huge morningstars (2hands) and both take advantage of long range companion Share Spell with Shillelagh/Brambles spells.
Here's the stats.
4th level Goliath Druid Variant
Str 18 (+2 race)
Dex 14 (-2 race)
Con 18 (+2 race)
Int 15
Wis 18 (+1 level 4)
Cha 13
---
HP: 38
AC: 18
F:8 - R:2 - W:8
---
Feats: 1 Natural bond (offset ape -3), 3 Companion Spellbound (30ft buffs)
---
Weapon: Huge Morningstar (2hands) mw
+8hit / 3d6+6
--- --- --- --- --- --- ---
Animal Companion: Ape (6 HD)
Str 23
Dex 16
Con 14
---
AC 23
---
Feats: 1 Light Armor Proficiency, 3 Simple weapon Proficiency, 6 Imp Toughness
---
Weapon: Huge Morningstar (2hands) mw
+11 hit / 3d6+9
Armor: Dragonhide Chainshirt
--- --- --- --- --- --- ---
Just at face value, my ape is a better fighter than the fighter PC we have by a large margin by #'s alone. And vastly better than myself at melee aswell, though not too shabby. AC is a tad low...
The **** really hits the fan when I Share Spell either/both Shillelagh and Brambles, as my ape wields a huge morningstar as well.
The weapon damage we can dish out buffed with both spells @ level 4 is:
(Flanking)
Me: +12 hit / 6d6+11
Ape: +15 hit / 6d6+14
Total: 12d6+25 - I've ran this through a die roller and the average is in the low 100's. Every round. Just one combo hit would be enough to kill any CR creature in our party levels level range.
I know it's not a pun-pun or other stupid powerful optimize builds, but this still seems a bit absurd. Especially since I'm only accounting just raw damage. Not other spells/wildshape/nature spell/powerful wildshape grappling/magic items, ect.
Seeing as how I like this character for RP reasons, that I did not go into, I'd hate to see him get Greater Teleported into orbit after the first encounter.
I'm defiantly not the most versed player... and this is my first druid. However, I have been playing d&d every week for two years. And I have built my fair share of characters and check every bit of math via books/erratas. The only thing that seems to be a bit hazy are the animal companion feats. The PH says they gain feats per HD just like a player would though...
Anyway, I know druids are Tier 1. Is this just overwhelming on paper? Have I screwed up somethings on my synergies? I just don't want to be leagues above the other PC's and/or focus fired by my DM. Will the +1 LA from Goliath level me out later?