Valwyn
2013-11-30, 02:46 PM
[...] Upon becoming an apprentice, a character immediately gains two new class skills and two bonus skill points to spend on these class skills.
These new class skills are added to the class skill list for any character class or prestige class she gains. [...] A character immediately gains two new class skills and two bonus skill points to spend on these class skills. These new class skills are added to the class skill list for any character class or prestige class she gains. [...]
Surpassing the Mentor: [...] The mentor's associated skills remain class skills for purposes of determining the maximum rank he can have in those skills, and he still retains the secondary benefits, but an associated skill can only be purchased as a class skill if he gains a level in a class that has that skill as a class skill. [...]
I have a few questions about this feat (which is why I didn't go to the RAW thread).
Let's say I take Philosopher (any Knowledge+Sense Motive).
1) Are the bonus skill points multiplied at level 1? If not, do I need to use one point on each skill or can I use both to buy ranks in the same skill?
2) The text says that you get those skills added to all your classes, and Surpasing the Mentor says that those skills count as class skill for determining your possible max ranks, but then it also says that you have to buy the ranks as a cross-class skill unless you multiclass into something that already has those skills. Is that contradictory or am I missing something?
These new class skills are added to the class skill list for any character class or prestige class she gains. [...] A character immediately gains two new class skills and two bonus skill points to spend on these class skills. These new class skills are added to the class skill list for any character class or prestige class she gains. [...]
Surpassing the Mentor: [...] The mentor's associated skills remain class skills for purposes of determining the maximum rank he can have in those skills, and he still retains the secondary benefits, but an associated skill can only be purchased as a class skill if he gains a level in a class that has that skill as a class skill. [...]
I have a few questions about this feat (which is why I didn't go to the RAW thread).
Let's say I take Philosopher (any Knowledge+Sense Motive).
1) Are the bonus skill points multiplied at level 1? If not, do I need to use one point on each skill or can I use both to buy ranks in the same skill?
2) The text says that you get those skills added to all your classes, and Surpasing the Mentor says that those skills count as class skill for determining your possible max ranks, but then it also says that you have to buy the ranks as a cross-class skill unless you multiclass into something that already has those skills. Is that contradictory or am I missing something?